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FILE NAME Manville JMA
DATE 1969 - 1976
DOC JMA373
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Meeting Minutes - Environmental Health Task Force & Correspondence from Stokinger RE
Threshold Limits
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MEND Tt Poligy Commit fiery
Environmental Health
Meeting
Task Force
June 16 1969
Large Board Room
7717
DR GEORGE W. WRIGHT
1 Air Pollution Meeting - City of New York
Dr. Wright reported on June 9 meeting with Austin N. Heller of N.Y.C. Department of Air Resources in regard
to possible community air pollution danger Dr. Wright and six others including Dr. Sclikoff gave testimony
on various aspects of problem Meeting between members of Mt. Sinai group and Sprayed Mineral Fiber Manufactuers
Association on June 20 to discuss problem with special emphasis on the new World Trade Center
Government Study of Asbestos Textile Workers
A problem has arisen with regard to health study of
asbestos workers being conducted by PHS with support of asbestos industry PHS plans to send information on
any abnormality they've discovered in an employee employe employee to that employee's personal physician Dr. Wright believes such information should also be sent to the employee's plant doctor Many asbestos companies especially in the textile field might not permit study to continue under
these conditions
3
JOM Scientific Committee
Dr. Wright reported on a recent meeting of the Scientific Committee of the Institute of Occupational and Environmental Health German mesothelioma study was not approved Study of workers in New Orleans plants of M and National
Gypsum tentatively approved THE study of trace metals needs designing before approval can be granted
Support granted to booklet on world asbestos situation
4 Johannesburg Meeting
Attitude of doctors changing support to speculations about
No longer giving
health effects of
unqualified
asbestos
Dr. Selikoff's studies of autopsied lungs in N.Y.C. cast
doulst 11 tea superiment superiment bedres bedres as
danger to general general public
indication indication of
potential potential
Dr. Webster said he no
longer believed that that alone was responsibrle esponsible for
mesothelioma
crocidolite
Bronchogenic cancer problem in South
Africa is not as great as one would expect
5 Plant Exchange Visits with
Raybestos
Dr. Wright described some of the
Raybestos to
techniques used by
reduce dust in their carding twisting
spinning operations
and
B. JOBE
1 IIHIRP Activities
J. B. Jobe reported on June 11
of IIIRP
The
Advisory Council meeting
following topics were discussed
a
finances
b new combined packaging - mixing unit for asbestos
c sprayed mineral fiber
d new mask development and testing e collectors on Saws
f shipbuilding
W. L. VAN DERBEEK DERBEEK
1 Environmental Control Activities at M Plants
W. L. VanDerbeek reported on positive results of steps taken in M textile operation at Manville Manville to reduce dust The legal and industrial relations aspects of dust counts and the wearingwearing of respirators
by employees in potentially hazardous hazardous situations was
discussed Respirators will be required where dust
counts are above the new TLV
Med my
bey Vay 6a
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WLV also
reported on results of personal air
dust counts Laken at
sampling
various 11 plants and in adjacent
community Tests showed tolerable TLV at most stations
Tests will continue including community study at Thet-
ford Mine
F. SOLON JR
1 Dr. Wright Thoracic Society Meeting Presentation
Paper on Asbestos and Health - 1969 given by Dr. Wright at Miami will be used for public relations
purposes as soon as it has appeared in medical
journals
AIDA Denver Meeting
Mr. Solon Industrial
reporting on annual Hygiene Association
meeting of
at Denver
American commented
on papers delivered by Dr. Pundsack Dr. Selikoff Dr. Stokinger Written transcript of latter's
and
comments on asbestos and
Dr. Stokinger appears to
health be new
was given to attendees friend on the
asbestos horizon and presentations
We will monitor his writings
Ivan Sabourin indicated that Dr. Selikoff would be willing to refute Dr. Stokinger's conclusions re
asbestos cement pipe Further consideration required
Organization - NIEW
Mr. Solon distributed organization chart of health
agencies of U. S. Department of Health Education and
Welfare
Hill & Knowlton has good contacts with must
of the people on chart J Washington office office personnel
would have to develop such contacts
Hi11 & Knowlton
recommends that M establish personal contacts between
HEW people and M people directly involved with environ-
mental health work
More
...
new WJ ia by Hyb '
British Activities
Conference on the Control of Asbestos in the Working
Environment being held in London June 18 dealing with
new British regulations and how they will affect industry
300 people registered to attend
M will get sound tape
and written transcript of full day's activities
New shipbuilding codes under preparation in England
hazards A television program
is being prepared in
on the industrial England
of asbestos
Dr. Selikoff has written letter to Turner & Newall
requesting that Mt. Sinai
asbestos headed visit England to study asbestos
asbestos Solon has no serious objections
by Dr. Nicholson work practices J
will convey this to
Wilfred Howard PR Director of T & N.
5. 5.
Upcoming Meetings
Mr. Solon distributed calendar of upcoming medical meetings with plans for coverage where required
fjs
F. J. Solon Jr.
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COARD OF DIRECTORS 1974.75
JEREMIAH R LYNCH Chaumon National Institute for Occupational
Safety and Health US Post Catfice and Courthouse Cincinnati Ohio 45207 nt 913 684 2A5
AMERICAN CONFERENCE of
GOVERNMENTAL INDUSTRIAL HYGIENISTS
J. FREDERICK KEPPLER Post Chairman Occupational Sofaty and Health Admin US Department of Labor 46 East Ohio Street Indianapolis Indiana 48204 Tel 317-633-7384
JAMES C. BARRETT Vice Chairman Division of Occupational Health Michigan Department of Health 3500 North Logon Street Cansing Michigan 48914 Tel 517-373 1410
DARREL D DOUGLAS Vice Chairman University of Californio Los Alamos Scientific lob PO Box 166 Los Alamos New Mexico 87544 Sal 505-667-6235
WILLIAM D. KELLEY Treasurer National Institute for Occupational
Safety and Health PO Box 1937 Cincinnati Ohio 45201 Tel 513 684 2535
Dr. Paul Kotin
October 13 1976
Senior Vice President
Health Safety and Environment Manville Corporation Caryl Ranch Denver Colorado 80217
Dear Paul
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BOARD OF DIRECTORS 1974.75
IRED LOTIORNI LOTIORONI Ph.D Bureau of Occupational Health California Deportment of Public 2151 Berkeley Wov Berbeley California 94/04
Health
MARSHALL E LANIER National Institute for Occupational
Safely and Health U.S Post Office and Courthouse Cincinnati Ohio 45207
RONALD R OFT Occupational Safety and Health Admin S. Deportment of Labor Federal Building 450 Golden Gate Avenue 80 36017 San Francisco California 94102
NORMAN G WHITE D. Executive Secretory 4111 Grennoch Houston lax 77025 Tel 713.664.2517
MRS KIM STEWART Manager Publications Office PO Box 1937 Cincinnati Ohio 45701 Tel 513-825 0312
Regarding Manville's stand on the Notice of Proposed Making on Occupational Exposure to Asbestos April 1976 that you sent me I would have thought you had plagiarized on my ideas on the subject had I not known
otherwise
You may be interested in another approach that the ACGIH Threshold Limits
Committee adopted to substantiate the present levels of the TLV Committee
of five fibers per cc on the basis of a recent report by Enterline
in 1973 who had studied the mortality from cancer of all types and other
forms of respiratory disease from which we made calculations of safety
factors for 30 40 and 50 years of exposure We did this also for the
safety factor incorporated in the NIOSH Recommended Standard of 2 fibers
and still came out with appreciable safety factors for all forms of asbestos
disease Please see copy attached Unfortunately no one not even my
friends in NIOSH wanted
that Enterline must have
to give much
overlooked a
credence to this Selikoff also saying number of mesotheliomas etc. etc.
etc. Enterline of course denies all of this
But I think this represents a new approach that has not been considered that may help fortify your position against this unnecessary reduction in industrial air standards whenever the word cancer appears OSHA or NIOSH have taken this position on Beryllium Cadmium and Chromium without justification as time has not elapsed in any of these substances to show that the going standard is not protective Their position is something like that of the Jewish race -- they cut a piece off before they know how long it's going to be
Sincerely yours
Enclosure
Hero
Herbert E. Stokinger Ph.D.
Past Chairman
Threshold Limits Committee
MEMORANDUM MEMORANDUM MEMORANDUM
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DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH EDUCATION AND WELFARE
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE ;
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MAUROSEMISTRILLON MAUROSEMISTRILLON
Center for Disease Control
National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health
DATE
August 8 1973
FROM
: Chief Toxicology Branch DLCD Chairman Committee on Threshold
Limits
ACGIII
SUBJECT
Identification in the Present
of a Threshold of Response and Estimations of Safety
Recommended Standards for the Industrial Carcinogen
s
Factors ASBESTOS
Enterline et al Brit J. Ind Med 162 1973 reported that a study of
ote.
the mortality from cancer and respiratory discase asbestosiosf 1,348
Te
retired asbestos workers of whom approximately 1,000 were exposed to
chrysotile the remainder to crocidolite resulted in the conclusion that
there appeared to be no direct relationship between asbestos dust exposure
and respiratory cancer below 125 mppcf
This information is of the highest importance for two reasons
1 It establishes a threshold of response for a chemical carcinogen
2 It permits an estimate of the margin of safety incorporated in both the
NIOSH and ACGIH recommended standard for asbestos
The margin of safety
asbestos disease and follows
SF in these recommended standards for all forms of
for chrysotile and crocidolite may be estimated as
The NIOSH asbestos recommended standard of 2 fibers > 5 mu in length is equivalent to 0.3333+ mppef according to Lynch & Ayer AINAJ 431
1966
For 30 exposure @ 125 mppcf
4.17 mppcf
Sten
For 40 exposure @ 125 mppcf = 3.13 mppcf
- For 50 exposure @ 125 mppcf = 2.5 mppcf
Estimation of the Safety Factors in the present NIOSH Standard
For 30 years 4.17 mppcf = SF
0.333+
12.5
For 40 years 3.13
0.333+
= 9.4
For 50
years
2.5 0.333+
=
7.5
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According to private communication with Enterline August 7 For all types of asbestos disease cancers and asbestosis
1973
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See Below
mppcf Of the Safety Factors** in t
Estimation Estimation Estimation the
= gp
4.17
SF
For 40
years, 3.13
= 3.9
;
3.13 -
s
above calculations permit
The recommended standards chrysotile an
in disease moreover moreover
estimate of the
permits permits and 50
years of
exposure asbestos
asbestos
Copy furnished:
Dr. Mr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Mr.
Copy furnished furnished Dr. Charles H.
Mr. Lassiter Dr. Donald Fairchild Fairchild Dr. Elliott Harris Dr. Elliott Bryant
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