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J' Business/Confidential UNION-OOKP ANY SAFETY MEETING MINUTES MARCH 6. 1973 - 9 AM - BUILDING 71 Union Company : V. Jensen, F. Metr.ner, F. Burno, Jr., N. Hoyda : T. Raby, U. Neal, R. Cope (South Charleston) T. Roby : In addition to the usual monthly Union-Company Safety Meeting we have Bob Cope and Doug Neal present to discuss our Industrial Hygiene Program "past and present" as per Dr. Stellman's request at the February 8, 1973 meeting. It is hoped that even though Dr. Stellman is not present that a meaningful discussion and dialog can be held on our past and present total Hygiene Programs. - GENERAL MEETING T. Ruby : R. Hannyk Disabling Injury Report - Copies Metzner - Bruno T. Raby : Stand-by Attendant Medical Disqualificarion Memo - March 1, 1973 Copies Me tenor - Bruno N. iicyda Status of inspection in the Tunnel Areas. Hew often? Do they report safety items? To who? T. R iby : Inspected Tunnel about two weeks ago. Discr?pancles net.-d to R. Sellers. Tunnel should be inspected by Plant Utilities perse :.r,el on a .daily basis with discrepancies reported to R. Sellers. Will follow-up with Roy to find exact frequency of inspection. N. Koyda : Review use of Inert Gas to blanket storage tanks. T. R -.by : Still trying to eliminate pigeons. Will send to Japan for "crow tape." V. Jonsen : Medical treatment of personnel with fractures, example K. Matta. T. Raby : RvCv.-j-'cnd V. Jensen set up a meeting with Dr. McKinley to discuss medical qiustiwns and policies. V. j. ns. n : M-itboys "sp it'.g" up r rip on scooters. T. Raby : Will have A. Ku-'.-a review pl>nt driving directives especially CAUTION on the r imps. F. nor: Tank hanging directly over the entrance to the Drive Mezzanine, Building T. Roby R. Gipe : Will investigate. I plaintiff'sexhi INDUSTRIAL HYGIENE PORTION ~ I H UC-4509 : Hirtwrical Background: vHWHI * l 8 J 5s - Prior to 1967 - IH Services from N, Y. (U. LeFrar.ce) ^. - After 1967 - Ho provided Environm- ntal Health Services at Fl^nfc- O 4 request, T'JO to ten visits por yo^r. 2- - - His test concerned noise and airborne sampling for Asbestos, solvents, dusts and Mercury. He would be glad to discuss sampling techniques, analyses used at Bound Brook for the past five years or any other question in this area: V. Jensen : L. LeFrance took MEK Tests in Building 105 and it was relayed Co Che Union all was OK. He noticed some guys getting sick, and called the State Officials. Evidently things were not too good because they finally started working like mad to relieve the fume problems. V. Jensen :: Recently running a reaction in Building 41 using Victamide the smell was so bad you couldn't stand it. Thank Cod for one APM who shut it down and it is not running now and won't until the fume problem is solved. V. Jensen :: Is the Carbon Black used in Building 91 and 101 the sane thing as that found in coal mines which causes "Black hung'' and che same as the substance which caused illness to the old chimney sweeps? R. Cope : It night be somewhat similar to the materials encountered by chimney sweeps but other than coal contains carbon too it is dissimilar to that which causes "31ack Lung." Carbon Black itself has a TLV of 3.5 mg./M^ but to the best of our knowledge it is not a known carcinogen. V. Jensen :: Have any studies been done on exposure to Carbon Black here at Bound Brook? R. Cope : lasts have been taken in the past in both Building 101 and Building 91. At times there hava been allowable excersions above the TLV of 3.5 ng./M^ but changes (increased ventilation and machinery modifications) have been made to correct these situations. V. Jensen : Ts the Company going to participate with the Union in total plant screening of personnel by Rutgers? T. Raby "You know the answer to that already. We intend to fully comply with Che C.SHA and State Laws." V. Jensen : In my training I found out that dust particles that you cannot see are the worst and that the usual methods of testing are not sophisticated enough to detect them. R. Cope : Wc are conducting all tests in accordance with techniques and analyses published by the recognized Industrial Hygiene and Governmental authorities. These Bodies hava sat up TLV's and if we keep within them it is reasonable to assume that exposure will not cause a demon strable injury. V. Jensen : We don't have a history established at Bound Brook to determine what Is harmful and what is not regardless of OSilA's TLVs. The point is we should be ahead of OSHA! We are filing a Complaint with OSHA on the Asbestos - , handling. A i iJOu T. Raby : Wo are as concerned about employees' health and complying with the Law as che Union is, hence the reason why we are meeting today. j/\ ^ f Q J V ' -3- y W. Neal : As for handling Asbestos ue are presently working diligently with R&D to see if we can use Asbestos in pellet forms. Ue also are considering bulk hanJling procedures. \/N. Hoyda Are the Asbestos boxcars in good shape? v. W. Neal : It varies; we are currently working with the vendor to see if we can get double door rail cars and pallets stacked for access from the side of the car to avoid damage. This will enable easier movement of palletized loads. We also requested a heavy paper "overslip" of the pallets to help minimize bag breakage. u/N. Ho yd a : Requested to see the new "overslip'' packaging when it comes in. V. Jensen : Cm ue "pick up" fibers smaller Chan five microns? > R. Cope : Yes, it is possible to count fibers 0.5 microns and up. V. Jensen : Is there any change in the Company's feelings regarding x-raying all V/ employees who touch Asbestos? This was a Company-'dnion Agenda item. T. Raby : It was my understanding that since the OSKA Law is not specific in this ratter, you would discuss this with Dr. McKinley as it requires a medical determination. F. Frv.no ;: We have come a long way but it se^-rs that -o'11 hive to go a bit further in the area of employees health. w T. Raby : The Company feels the same way too. Me will continue our Industrial Hygiene surveys and maintain constant vigilance of the manufacturing areas fo isolate and correct any difficulitios which might arise. _ R. Cope : Now we know more about the chemicals and substances we encounter on a daily basis and arc taking.those steps necessary to insure to the best of our ability, employee's health is not ever endangered. This is not only true in industry but as a society (saccharin etc.). V. Jensen : As mentioned before at our last meeting the Union wants: 1. Co-administration of all environmental sampling including the right to bring in outside expertise. 2. No want the exact results of all sampling and not just - ''IT'S OK." 3. When people are x-rayed and tested for levels of Pb or Hg we want the exact results. T. F.iby ; Again, we are cognizant of the Law arid will do all that is necessary to insure compliance wir.h it and to insure employee health is not adversely affected. V. Jenson : R. Cope : Have any tests been conducted in Building '*1 when the smell is so bad thac it drives you out of the building? Jr ,,. A i c. j j Formaldehyde has a YLV and can be tested for. However, in the past when I was here Che conditions you mention wore not present. This is one of the i-.'.in reasons why we have established a full time Industrial Hygienist <' not av ii( it,; >:. f'li clii" ir tili n' t a s -i f o t y n.or-: fti.ly. rr.:'- orr Re vi... EV > r II in v t r : t i v<; re a ' .' i t f < 'ii '1 r a? I b r t tli- 11. i : * * al f.n,-.' x'^Si58 -4- jt che Bound Brook sice. This will enable us Co sample almost InmedLately any transient conditions. This was not possible in the past. Does this mean that D. Neal will be available to test for conditions as they'arise? Yes, if I'm informed of any problems "I'll do my best to sample right then when the problem exists." Speaking of Formaldehyde, I work in the Tank Farm Area and note that some fumes come from che vents and another bad time is when we develop a leak in Lhe Thnnel and I have to blow excess Formaldehyde from the Tunnel to Weigh Tanks in Building 41. Ic takes about 15-20 minutes to complete and I never can do ic in one shot because I receive calls from 41 telling me to stop it hecausc the fumes are so bad. I'll look into this situation and see what can be done. I'.we you ever tested in Building 91 during the "canning out operation?" Wo have requested that Bill Barton notify Doug, che next time he "cans out" so that tests can be made. This, though, is an emergency situation end specific scheduling is not possible. Those typos of communications are definitely valuable and l would hope that they will continue because they prove invaluable to the Industrial Hygienist. Do you hive any data on fiberglass? Is it comparable to Asbestos? Fiberglass is not comparable to Asbestos and does have a TL.V which can be tested for. It depends alot on the silica content. In our welding operations we /produce Flocide gases. Are these dangerous considering we usually wash the piece first in a degreaser and pick up the contamination of other chemicals? I don't think we have a problem of Flouride gas buC you probably mean * C-. one ind .N 0 2 Yes, I guess that's what I mean. All welding booths, with the exception of one in Maintenance have local ventilation available. If this is used, and it should always be, fumes should not be .1 problem. Do you hove any data on the effects of Peroxides on the human body? Dr. Stillman tolls me there is no i.nfonr.ation at all available through her sources now. This is p^rticul.irily disturbing to me considering the large .i-mmt used in 101 and now 91. Speaking of Building tfhitOib C 7 going on over tlie re - Do you know? .' The Peroxide CV.'snittee has reviewed the process. It is in compliances - . with F.M. requirements. (Short discussion of process) ^/ : Hi'L sv.iihU,v r.u tl.i'i in [Jl: n ` t a safety wo v x f i t I y . ovr V vi v. fu- ir i l inw t i g s: i vx c a '1! i t. ici\ <1 an b -- : f tK- iux i:> aKv,.. f.-< , ' f i Vi qv. aw ii .>!-s X#1815& -4* it the Bound Brook site. This will enable us to sample almost immediately any transient conditions. This was not possible in the past. Does this mean that D. Neal vilL be available to test for conditions as they'arise? fes, if I'm informed of any problems "I'll do my best to sample right then when the problem exists." Speaking of Formaldehyde, I work in the Tank Farm Area and note that some fumes come from the vents and another bad time is when wc develop a leak in the TVinncl and I have Co blow excess Formaldehyde from the Tunnel to Weigh Tjnks in Building 41. It cakes about 15-20 minutes to complete and I never can do it in one shot because I receive calls from 41 telling me to stop it because the fumes are so bad. I'll look into tills situation and see what can be done. Have you ever tested in Building 91 during the "canning out operation?" We have requested that Bill Barton notify'Dcug, the next time he "cans out" so that tests can be made. This, though, is an emergency situation end specific scheduling is not possible. Those types of cot-nunLcations are definitely valuable and I would hope that they will continue because they pr..-ve invaluable to the Industrial Hygienist. Do you have any data on fiberglass? Is it comparable to Asbestos? Fiberglass is not comparable to Asbestos and does have a TLV which can be tested for. It depends alot on the silica content. In our welding operations we .produce Floride gases. Are these dangerous considering we usually wash the piece first in a degreaser and pick up the contamination of other chemicals? I don't think we have a problem of Flouride gas but you probably mean * 0.'.one and N02* Vos, I guess tli.1t'S what I mean. All welding booths, with the exception of one in Maintenance have local ventilation available. If this is used, and it should always be, fumes should not be a problem. Do you hove any data on the effects of Peroxides on the human body? Dr. Stillman tolls me there is no information at all available through her axnirces now. This is particul-irily disturbing to mo considering the large .r-.ount used in 101 and now 91. Speaking of Building 9^ j^h^tQi^ ^ ~j going on over there - Do you know? .' The Peroxide O-xmittee has reviewed the process. It is in compliances - - with F.N. requirements. (Short discussion of process) ^ <- 'o sj / ; < / -5- N. Hoyda Can we us? the Company inst ru- nt vh. i. vr w.:;.j tc>? W. Neal N. Hoyda These are delicate- insC ru: t. r. ts for che most part and are net jv.iil 'Mifor Union use. We usually do have e~ploy-:> participation the' yh in chi testing and ur explain hi-., and why ve are 11-s t iiva.. When the Safety Dcpartie nt investigate.- ir.jurie: why cjn't a s-.foty cow accompany them. The employee; might talk vr.: fitely. T. Rahy Since wo don't have a full tin*' accident inv: s t i.*.t io- i n. 1 oi * r investigations are not cord-. cted all at cm. ci-;. Our Re vie-.. Re ard ' include the- individual involve.! ar.-l h-. is inelud-d, in all i'w tiertive macters where appl icahl e . In sene Division; w-. also have add 11 ien .1 men who work in the area pari icipat.- to it. - . > r * vo "cover all b v-. s J think our history proves our nea'n comi is to p-e.e.rt th ii.e \ de .a from recurring and not to fix bin - c-i aio.c-r. - . I h -,v-. al -a ; f-i e 1 our people to be honest in their ansvtrs te- my ir.vi st i gat ivicj-.o-.t i .-.ns and I'm sure our sincerity is also notedby the-.-. There being no further questions the meeting adjourned about 11:45 AX. TPRir.ts 3-13-73 T. P. Rahy DISTRIBUTION: Mr. R. W. Cope - SC Dr. C. S. McKinley - B8 Mr. D. C. Mocz/R. A. Rimicci/F. S. Hecr.ey - EB . D. Neal - BB rP^r-' Mr. J. P. Zuccarelli/F. J. DeLuca - 'bb x'/$i8f58