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FILE NAME: CTFA (CTFA) DATE: 1974 Mar 6 DOC#: CTFA020 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Unpublished Internal Report
A M E R I C A N C V A N A M TD C O M P A N Y
CO N SU M ER PROD UCTS DIVISION
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Dr. Horman Este in The cosmetic, Toiletry and Fragrance Assoc,, 1625 Eye Street, Bt.W. Washington, B.G. 20006
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Dear Hermans
X ashed our microscop ist at the Stamford Research
Laboratories to comment on the "Final Report of CTFA
Talo Subcommittoo" and sent a copy to Dr J, Longfellow
who requested that X provide you with as many copies
as you deem useful.
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I, therefor., am enclosing eight ft?) copies of the
report. If moro as needed., please let me know.
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STAMFORD RESEARCH LABORATORIES
RESEARCH SERVICE DEPARTMENT REPORT
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Microscopy
materiAi, Method A s b e s t o s a T a l c
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| Our commenta on. the data you hare aubmifeped concerning
the Eejpt* of Health, Education and Welfare's microscopical method
for determining the amount of aahestoa In talc may; beet he divided
into tiiro parts} the test procedure itself and the h3actions
raised;by the Q TF A subcommittee alter a round-robin trial,
Test Procedure
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1.Sampling,
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riffling would probably be universally acceptable for powders
of allisiaca and compositions,
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The feast specifies a weight o f one mg,;idepending on
the sixe-range of the talc product, this may be too much or too W
r.\, little;to be truly representative.
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. dietcry, These criteria stipulate that fibers must have & length
' of 5 micrometers or greater and a width of 3 micrometers or jess.
Thus, ut fiber 50 micrometers long and 5 micrometers wide (perfect
ly possible) would be in conflict with itselfi The aspect ratio and
: the length suffice to define the fiber dlmenalonsj 'width
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area suggested for examination is 48 sq, mm. Shis seems unneoos-
eerily large for routine microscopy, for it involves approximately
100 traverses of 50 fields each at 4001, or approximately 5000 fields
If the sample is well-dispersed, as specified, 10 equally-spaced
v traverses, involving about 500 fields, should ha adequate.
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j Our Microscopy Laboratory can perfora this test.
However, we feel that Che time required would probably be
one tp- two day per e&mplB, if the figures are to be; cleaning-
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Objections by the OTFA Subcommittee
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Objection SJo. 1,
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quires that both indices ofrefraction exhibited by a fiber
h below 1.574- if the fiber is identified as chrysctile.
Also, jit seems unlikely that an experienced minerolosist
would ,oonfuse fibrous talc,or edgewise, platy talc, with
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chrysotile, as other optical characteristics, i.ey, detailed
morphology, interference color, change of relief on. rotation, etc., ji/duld usually be distinctive.
. Object!one Bo. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.
: ifhese all appear to be valid.
General Comment
It is quite obvious, from the disparity bf results
obtained in the round-robin trial, that the test, as presently
designed, ia not practical. Of the seven alternatives sug- *
geetedj Ho. 1, (Modified Optical Method) still seems to offer
the beat chance of successful application by the industry.
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