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FILE NAME Industrial Hygiene Foundation IHF
DATE 1934-1944 DOC IHF083
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Multiple Letters Many Companies - Vandiver Brown
& Dr. Gardner
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UNITED
STATES ASBESTOS DIVISION
of Raybestos Manhattan Ina
MANHEIM PENNA
May 2 1944
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Mr. S. Simpson President
Raybestos Inc.
Stratford Connecticut
Dear Mr. Simpson
Re Industrial Hygiene Foundation of America
conference in New York in January about the Metropolitan
After our
in the textile mill I
Life Insurance report on dust counts tFaokuenndation of America to send
arranged with the Industrial Hygiene
in various textile
one of their engineers here to take dust counts
departments J am quoting from the summary from the Industrial
Hygiene Foundation report
;
| This is a report of a study undertaken to locate the most
of dust and to develop additional dust
important
sources at
the Manheim plant
of U.
S.
Asbestos
control measures
Manhatten Division of
Inc. Sixteen dust counts
were made in various departments These samples indicate
that conditions in the Picker House are not satisfactory
but dustiness in the Carding Spinning and Twisting Depart-
ments is less than 5 million particles per cubic foot
are made that can lead to a reduction of
Recommendations
the Carding De-
dustiness in the ricker House as well as in
partment
It is believed that while the card room is under
the consequent starvation of
considerable negative pressure
the exhaust equipment is probably not in itself sufficient
to account for any marked reduction in control of dust
I am also including herewith the various departments
a record of the Picker House
dust
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At Pan Crushers
Floor Batching Batch feeding vertical opener 52 minute sample at central point of room for general near
vertical opener
counts taken in
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8.7 1.7 9.9
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million million million
56 million
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Mr S. Simpson
Carding .
General air conditions at in the Breaker Card Room
various
points
General air conditions in Finisher Card Room
At a point beside the condensers in
Breaker Card Room :
At a point near the
Finisher Card Room
card
condensers
in
the
Along central Finisher Card Room
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Spinning -
At mules At Frames on 2nd floor At Frames on 1st floor
Particles per cu.ft.
4.0 million 2.8 million
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3.8 million
4.3 million 4.8 million
4.8 3.6 2.0
million million million
Twisters
Average for all aisles
Universal Winders
4.0 million
'
30 million
In commenting on this report on the phone Mr. McMahon Managing Direc-
tor of the Industrial Hygiene Foundation stated the control of
dust in this mill was far above the average for an asbestos textile plant He indicated that a dust count under 5 million particles per cubic foot is good However we recognize that this is a continuing
program and we propose to first correct the conditions in the Picker
House at those points where the dust concentration is over 5 million
particles per cubic foot We then propose to make some changes in the card room which will result in further improvement
continuing We are
fibre
continuing to experiment with the
We believe that this will result
throughout the plant
application of oil to the
in further improvement
Please consider this as a preliminary report as I plan to advise you from time to time of improvements that have been made
A little later after we have made some changes suggested by the
Industrial Hygiene Foundation engineer we shall arrange with Mr.
Fehnel of the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company
tional dust counts in our various departments
to make
addi-
mrs
Yours very truly
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SOUTHERN ASBESTOS COMPANY
HIGH GRADE ASBESTOS TEXTILE PRODUCTS
CHARLOTTE December 18 1936
Inc. Mr. S. Simpson President ets Me
Manhattan
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Bridgeport Conn
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Dear Mr. Simpson
11th
We have your letter of December for which we thank you
We shall proceed as suggested by you through your Mr. Jeffords
We are attaching herewith reprint
of article published by J. Rush Shull of Charlotte
I am not sure whether you have seen a copy
This copy
was sent to Mr. Schluter who has asked that I pass
it along to you that you can get Dr. Gardner's re-
action for the benefit of our industry
For your information Dr. Shull so far as my information goes is usually found supporting the employees I have heard rumors that other doctors do not subscribe to Mr. Shull's contention
as set forth in this article
Many of the employees referred to
in the 77 cases listed in the article have worked for
our Company
I am sure most of them have worked over
a period of time for our Company Carolina Asbestos
and your plant at Charleston
shall be any time
very glad
we can be
We appreciate your cooperation and to extend your companies the same at
of service to you
GSFabel A .
Yours very truly
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Mr. Sumner Simpson President Manhattan Inc. Bridgeport Conn
My dear Mr. Simpson
Allow me to thank you for yours
of January 5th enclosing a reprinotf the articlbey
Dr. Shull on Asbestosis A Roentgenologic Review of 71 Cases together with copy of Mr. Fabel's letter
of December 18th
Very truly yours
VB
Vandiver Brown
General Attorney
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Bridgeport Bridgeport CoComm mm
November 10 1936
Mr. F. H. Schluter President
Thermoid Rubber Co.
Trenton N. J.
My dear Mr. Schluter
had
Metropolitan Dr.
Mr. The writer and
a conference with Dr. Lanza and Dr.
Vandiver Brown of Manville
Leroy Gardner of Saranac New York and
of the
Life Insurance Co.
McConnell with reference to the Asbestosis situation in the Asbestos industry
and As you no doubt know Manville
been coing considerable work in conjunction with
ourselves have
the Metropolitan
eliminating Life Insurance Co. in the way of
Asbestos Dust in our
factories and we have made a very satisfactory job of it
large
We have
part of the
point now reached the point where we can eliminate a point
Dust but as yet
no definite information as
to what Asbestosis will lead Into They claim it leads to Tubercu-
losis but
into court
GO SO
We
we do not find this to be the case Still we cannot go
Fibres and state definitely and
do know that Asbestos
specifically
can onc
that it will not
do get into the
lungs and may
tor name some
set up doctors
a
condition Fibrosis
which
have called Asbestosis
for want
of a
bet-
Laboratory Laboratory Dr. Gardner has a well equipped
and a number
of separate Dust Chambers in his Laboratory at Berunne and he and
his associates have been studying various types of Dust for nusber
but of yours in connection with Tuberculosis practically nothing
has been gone with Asbestos
systematic investigation takes
ly
In order to carry on fron two to three years
a and
Lust
these investigations investigations
investigations
are
it
general-
pale for by Industry mostly working as a unit
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Dr. Geroner's Laboratory Laboratory charge is 5,000.00 per 3 and
three any study should be based on a
period sults that will stand up and be
and I believe by the courts
year period
accepted by the
in order to get re-
Recical fraternity
- will eo
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think the Compensation Compensation Labs in the virious suitor suitor
become more rigio in the next for yours end no doubt Aubartow
on
account of the advertising
Componation Componation cases and we
it has should
had Intuly will become one
haveall the information information to
of the
can por-
C Compensation sibly got to submit to the
Commissions of the various
NL states when the question of Asbestosis Asbestosis comes up
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Dr.
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Dust Chamber buen and
could
start start
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work on experimenting with Asbestos at once and has
suggested industry that the
rabbits to carry
Asbestos
take over this Dust Chamber
on the experiments with guinca pigs and
and
to
employ
us
him
The idea
even five
over
or
this
more
study by
years and then we
of Mr. Brown
subscribingBrown if we could
and myself would be to have four or get them Asbestos manufacturers take an equal amount per year for three
could determine from time to time after the find-
ings are made whether we wish any publication or not My own idea
is that it would be a good thing to distribute the information among
the medical fraternity providing it is of the right type and would
not injure our companies
This would mean if four of us went in to carry on this
three work it would be 1,250.00 a year for each one of us for a period of years
If you are interested in this subject
Biltmore meeting have a
at The
in New York on Tuesday November
or if this is not satisfactory
you care to have it
to I should like
17 at 18:30 o'clock
can make it any place
I am asking asking
the following
to attend the meeting
meeting
Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr.
Mr.
Vandiver Brown Manville Inc.
F. H. Schinter Thermoid Rubber Co A. S. Blagden Keasbey & Mattison Co.
H. D. Labiont Asbestos Manufacturing Co. G. M. Williams Russell Manufacturing Manufacturing Co.
S. Simpson Manhattan Inc..
Is there any one else you would suggest
Very truly yours
SS
President
November 20 1936
LeRoy U. Gardner M. D. The Saranac Laboratory Saranac Lake New York
Director
Dear Dr. Gardner
At a meeting yesterday attended by certain brake lining manufacturers Mr. Simpson and I were able to present to a fairly large group of interested corporations the proposal that one of your dusting chambers be engaged for further experi-
mentation with asbestos dust
The proposal was very well received and it appears
that not less than eight and perhaps ten or more corporations
will participate in financing these further experiments along
the lines discussed when we met with Dr.
a few days ago
Lanza and Dr.
McConnell
Accordingly you may consider this letter as an
authorization to you to commence the contemplated experiments
with asbestos dust for the purpose of determining more definitely
the causes and effects of asbestosis It is my understanding
anticipated that among other questions which it is
ments will answer are the following
these experi-
1
what concentration of dust is necessary to prouuce
the fibrosis of the lungs which is designateads
asbestosis
2
Whether exposure to asbestos dust will produce asbestosis without the existence of previous infection and whether the ray changes found in advanced human asbestosis can be reproduced
in animals without infection
3
Whether the fibrosis produced by asbestos is of the progressive type that is will the
fibrosis increase once it has started after
exposure to the dust has ceased
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Whether the fibrosis resulting
asbestos dust is occasioned by tent of the asbestos or by its
from exposure to the silicon confibrous structure
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Whether the presence of asbestos diagnostic significance
bodies
has
any
will will that
It is also our understanding that these experiments require approximately three years which will mean that they not be concluded until about the end of the year 1939 and
they will cost 5,000 annually or a total of 15,000
It is our further understanding that the results
obtained will be considered the property of those who are advanc-
v
ing the required funds who will determine whether to what extent
and in what manner they shall be made public In the event it is
deemed desirable that the results be made public the manuscript
of your study will be submitted to us for approval prior to publica-
tion
.
I shall appreciate your advising me if the foregoing accurately expresses the proposition you had in mind Also let
me know the manner in which you would like to have the funds ad-
vanced to you Would you for example desire to have 1250 paid quarterly in advance or just what arrangement would suit you best Any method you suggest will be satisfactory
Since the experiments are being underwritten by a relatively large group it has been suggested that as a matter of convenience any communications regarding the work he addressed to me and I will where necessary communicate the contents thereof to Mr. Simpson and the other parties You will be provided with funds by either Manville Corporation or Raybestos Incorporated and we or they will secure from the other parties their
pro rata contribution
I will advise you later of the names of the other contributing parties ,
I shall appreciate your informing me at
possible moment whether the arrangement as outlined with your approval
the earliest
herein meets
VB
Sincerely yours
Van
Down
Vandiver Brown
General Attorney
THE SARANAC LABORATORY FOR THE STUDY OF TUBERCULOSIS
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Mr. Vandiver Brown Manville Corporation 22 East 40th Street
New York City
Dear Mr. Brown
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Your authorization to proceed with the
proposed asbestosis experiments at
is acknowledged with satisfaction
the
Saranac
,
Laboratory
We believe that such experiments can be ex-
pected to furnish asnwers to the questions which you have
outlined The estimated
of three years making a
cost of annually for a period total of 15,000 is correct
Your suggestion to make advanced quarterly
payments of 1,250 will be entirely satisfactory to the
Laboratory
that you may
If this
care to
is not convenient any other
make will be acceptable
arrangement
The Saranac Laboratory agrees that the results
of these studies shall become the property of the contributors
he and that approval
the manuscripts of any reports shall be of the contributors before publication
submitted
for
I would recommend that the experiments be
performed with pure Canadian Asbestos fibre containing re-
latively little sermentine rock aust The Kings Floats
used in our first experiment was unsatisfactory owing to the fact that it contained such a high concentration of nonfibrous rock dust If this meets with your approval I would
suggest that a sample be submitted to the Laboratory for chemical and petrographic analysis
Having mutually satisfied ourselves as to the
material to be used I would request that the companies agree
to supply a sufficient quantity of asbestos ground to the
finest state of subdivision possible
1 am not aware whether
any of fibres
the contributoharvse apparatus capable of reducing
to inhalable dimensions If this request should not
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prove practical some
will have to be made
material received by
arrangement for its
by the Laboratory
us should be broken
final reduction But at least the to powder
It is impossible to estimate the amount of
material necessary as its behavior in
for
our
the experiments at the present time
dusting apparatus has never been
determined
1200 pounds
With the Kings Floats tests approximately
a year were required
It is conceivable that
a pure fibrous aust might be dissipated into the atmosphere more rapidly and hence even a larger quantity would be
necessary
will be
He are ready pleased to examine
can be procured
to start the work at any time and
samples of aust as soon as they
Thanking you for your cooporation in arranging
this program I am
With best regards
LUG
Sincerely yours
Director M.D.
Director cc
EXECUTIVE OFFICES
~ MANVILLE CORPORATION
TWENTY EAST PORTIETH STREET NEW YORK N.
May 10 1940
Summer Simpson Esq President Manhattan Inc. Bridgeport Connecticut
Re Dr. Gardner's Experiments Dear Mr. Simpson
I am sorry I was away when you telephoned me a few weeks ago However my secretary informed me of the matter about which you wished to speak to me
In the same connection I believe you will be interested in the attached excerpt from Air Hygiene Foundation Digest of April 1940 covering current matters in the field of industrial hygiene I have not read the original article but it is apparent from the Digest that Dr. Gardner is already publishing without seeking our advance approval certain conclusions which his reports to us have indicated were arrived at as a result of the experiments underwritten by the
textile group
I situation
shall
appreciate
your
comments
on this
Sincerely
.
VB
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Vandiver Brown
General Attorney
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December 18 1934
Mr. M. F. Judd Manhattan Bridgeport Conn
Inc.
Dear Mr. Judd
Confirming our telephone conversation I am enclosing herewith galley proof of the Metropolitan Life
Insurance Company's preliminary study entitled Effects of
the Inhalation of Asbestos Dust upon the Lungs of Asbestos
Workers
I am also enclosing a copy of mine and Mr.
Hobart's comments thereon
I tay
was just talking to Dr. Lanza and I am
Soni inclined to believe he will accede to most of our requests
by making appropriate provisions in the article
VBT
Enclosures
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Very truly yours
One diverdiver Vandiver Brown
Attorney
Person
Person
Bridgeport Conn Jan. 2 1935
Mr. Vendiver Brown Attorney Manville Corporation New York City
Dear Mr. Brown
Thank you for your letter of Dec. 24
Both Hr Simpson and myself feel quite safe in leaving the approval of the report in your hands I do think that Mr. Hobart made some excellent suggestions in his letter of Dec. 15 and hope that Dr. Lanza will give
a lot of consideration to the comments
I take it for granted that when this article comes off the press the Metropolitan Insurance Company will see that you get copies of it in which event we certainly would like one for our files
Yours very truly
MFJ
Secretary
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September 25 1935
Mr. Sumner Simpson President
Manhattan Inc.
Bridgeport Conn
Dear Sir
You may recall that we have written you on several
occasions concerning the publishing of information or dis' cussion of asbestosis and the work which has been and is ' being done to eliminate or at least reduce it
Always you have requested that for certain obvious
inate reasons we publish nothing been respected
and
naturally your wishes have
Possibly by this time however the reasons for your objection to publicity on this subject have been eliminated and
if so we would like very much to review the whole matter in ASBESTOS
Our thought is that we could either prepare from
data which we have in our files or obtain from Mr. W. A. Godfrey
of the Cape Asbestos Company London who is much interested in
the subject an article on the work done in England and then
someone follow it with an article written by
as to the work done here
. in your organization
We understand from Mr. Stover that your North Charleston
plant contains very complete dust control equipment and a description of such equipment if you approve would make a very interest-
ing part of the article Possibly even you could supply a photograph
or two showing some part of this dust control equipment equipment
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We await with much interest your reply If there is
,
serious for the
objection it would seem to be a most interesting subject
pages of ASBESTOS and possibly a discussion of it in
ASS..STUS ASS..STUS along the right lines would serve to combat some or
the rather undesirable publicity given to it in current newspapers
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Mr. S. Simpson President
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Manhattan Inc.
Bridgeport Conn
My dear Mr. Simpson
I wish to acknowledge receipt of yours of
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October 1st enclosing copy of the September 25th letter from
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I quite agree with
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ane you that our interests are best served by having asbestosis |
receive the minimum of publicity Even if we should eventual-
ly decide to raise no objection to the publication of an
article on asbestosis in the magazine in question I think we
should warn the editors to use American data on the subject
rather than English Dr. Lanza has frequently remarked to me
personally and in some of his papers that the clinical pic-
ture presented in North American localities where there is an
asbestos dust
in England England and
hazard is considerably
South Africa
milder
than
that
reported
I believe the question raised by Miss Rossiter might well be considered at the committee meeting scheduled for next Tuesday at which I understand both you and Mr. Judd will be present
Very truly yours
Vandiver ParownParown
Vandiver Brown
Attorney
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Bridgeport Conn
Mr. Vandiver Brown Attorney Manville Corp. 22 East 40th St. New York City
My dear Mr. Brown
Enclosed is copy of a letter re-
ceived from Miss Rossiter of Asbestos
| personally As I see it
we would
be just as well off to say nothing about it until our survey is complete I think
the less
id time we are
track of lose
but
about asbestos
at the same
the
we
better off cannot
the fact that there have been
a number of articles on asbestos dust con-
trol and asbestosis in the British trade
magazines The magazine Asbestos is in
been business to publisharticles affecting the
trade and they have
very decent about
not printing the English articles
I shall be pleased to have your
opinion in the matter
Very truly yours |
SS
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President
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FREDERICK H. ECKER PResident
NEW YORK CITY
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October 28 1935
Mr. S. Simpson President Raybestos Inc. Bridgeport Conn Dear Mr. Simpson
This will acknowledge your letter of October 19
I shall be very pleased to see you Tuesday when you are in New York
I assure you that arrangements had been made to assist your company
in the present litigation Very truly yours
J. McConnell McConnell M.D.
Assistant Medical Director
Director Industrial Health Section
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