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Vi, .e.-A*M"* R, Richard - Research Center
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September 9/ 1969 DEFENSE OF AROCLOR F "FLUIDS------------------
TO . Wheeler - EWHEE
P. Hodges. PHODG
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General Policy
Make the Govt., States and Universities prove their case, but avoid as much confrontation as possible. Comply and work with public officials to meet or*exceed requirements ahead of time. Adverse publicity and competition are the real weapons.
Analytical
In Air ' - Which Aroclors are present? Where?
"for ArocTor In Water- Which finmnnunciao
Govt.
In Animals `^'interfere?
Agencies
Keep track of how much contamination - which sources.
Prove Bloharmful - Let Govt, prove-its case, on case by case basis.
Monsanto Vlslt-Govt. Blolabs - in search of toxicological
. experiments and evidence
vs. Aroclors to keep up with
progress,
Monsanto Prove Bioharmless - Limited work at Ind. Bio-test -
"Safe" toxio level for
man
mammals fish
Rats via Chickens
Fish
Seek evidence of Biodegra-
dation
Question evidence against
us.
Question shriuptoxicology
especially other toxic
chemicals.
If Aroclor bad, others
must be worse.
Probable Outcome
We can prove some things are OK at low concentration.
Give Monsanto some defense.
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We can't defend vs. everything. Some animals or fish or insects will be harmed.
Aroclor degradation rate will be slow. Tough to defer.; jalnst. il-gher chlorination compounds will be woroc . . .
_o-`.:er chlorine compounds.
Therefore we will have to restrict uses and clean-up as
much as._we._can,. starting immediately. /,,
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I'nerefpre we will have to work for alternate products in end use applications; for Aroclor production facilities.
Clean Up Aroclors and substitute products where necessary and when required, before threats of
publicity and competitive activity over whelm us.
Water Pollution seems to be first issue
Aroclor product is refractive, will settle out on solids sewerage sludge - river bottoms, and apparently has a long life.
Florida or Gulf Coast - Aroclor 1254 - Aroclor 1260 present issue.
40-200 ppb - causing problem at Pensacola (Monsanto) in plant effluent-causing " with shrimp.
- can't risk shut-down of plant. -
Federal and State can extrapolate to other plants in , Qulf area. '
San Francisco - Aroclor 1254 and 1260 Reported Aroclor to be present in San Francisco Bay. Reported to be thin egg shells in birds Lot of screaming -
Great Lakes
Warf studies on DOT Aroclor 1254 will be found 1 Aroclor 1242 will be found?
Air Pollution - Possible spread - but less of an issue
right now.
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Analytical work more difficult.
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Direct Contact with Product
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Doesn't seem to be an issue - except for food heat transfer.' 4
We don't believe Aroclor is being used as carrier for insecticide - sprayed around -
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We are not positive but most uses are "closed" systems'- . , -a.
or products used in solid plastics, or adhesives, or ;
sealants.
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F. Fluids
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Product . Hydraulic Fluids
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Air Compressor Fluids Heat Transfer. Capacitor Fluids
Transformer Fluids
Possible Pollution by
Possible Pollutlor
Customers Plant Operation by Customers Procv
Yes, leakage external
Yes, leakage external Yes, leakage external Yes, leakage from plant
Scrap materials. No, Should be clean. Yes, Reworked trans
formers
Possible - See Johnson Motors Castings,
Leakage into produc
Leakage into produc
In product but closed for end use;i
In product but closed for end use*
* Capacitors can go to land fill dumps. Probably not burned, in A1 containers.
** Need to take care of Aroclor in discarded
transformers. Product' could be drained and reworked.
Probable Conclusions
Hydraulic Leakage
Product could be caught at machines but will take a lot of clean-up work with customers. Will have to have replacement product - with less-sensitive components. Work from this base on clean-up to prevent more pollution problems.
Air Compressor Fluids
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Hydraulic Fluids
Must expect 11 shrimp" experiments. West Florida State, to be "aired" sometime soon; next few months.
This will lead to bad publicity and competitive action vs. all Pydrauls.
We will have to try to confine to Aroclor 1254 and Aroclor 1260,
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We will have to take action before that time.
Gulf Coast -
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Action
W. Richard
Fallon/ Richard
Be able to replace Aroclor 1254 and Aroclor 1260 in Pydraul AC and 625 in 2 month's time before Nov. 15, 1969.
Have trial product in hands of Gulf Coast accounts and distributor before Dec. 15.
Fallon
Suggest possible buy of "all phosphate" ester
from Food Machinery.
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Use this as one trial fluid MCS____ for insurance.
Richard/ _
Suggest possible substitution of Aroclor 5442 for Aroclor 1254 in hydraulic and compressor blends. E. Wheeler Judges lower order of toxicity and
solubility for 5^2 series. Have to test product in pump test for deposits.
Fallon/ Richard.
Suggest field trials of our own all-phosphate ester.
Fallon/ Kuhn/ Kountz
Work with large customers to clean-up streams. Bring in Findett as mfg. partner in the recycle business. Get money out of recycle operations.
Inland-Waterways -
/heeler/ Richard
Be close enough to Great Lakes Btudies to Judge situation. Are there animals which are being affected by the concentrations found?
(Richard
Be prepared to replace Aroclor 1254 and Aroclor 1260 in 4 months in hydraulic fluids and in air compressor fluids.
Richard
Be prepared to replace all Aroclor 1242 or 124T in 6 months in hydraulic fluids. This means replacement of Pydraul 512 series, and control of sale of Aroclor 1248 to other hydraulic accounts such as Cities Service and Mobil.
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Fallon/ Roush/ Kountz
Systems will have some leakage depending strongly on engineering and maintenance. Need to work with customers on clean-up,
Fallon/ Rouoh
Need to replace FR especially in food or eensitJvc pr'onMct eroao 'v)ir i`h product is f>ttinS into water. Sec jj.sk, washer oompounos. See
letter E. Wheeler to r. Fallon.
We have possible rep cement products i.: Therm:r 55. Therm!... . to.
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Action Kuhn
Kuhn/ Fallon
Try to assure adequate production of Thermlnol 66 in face of decreased Aroclor production. Kz and terphenyl supply may become short.
Switch customers to Therminol 55 or Therminol 66
ahead of pollution problems in customers plant.
Work with customers on plant and dumping
practices.
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Findett already set up to rework. Need to make them a manufacturing arm. We get sale of recycle-rework fluid.-
Capacitor
Capacitor plants have re-
Fiultis
purification and recycle
systems but up to
of
product can be lost by
poor plant producers and
off-quality material.
Mkt. Benignus/
Bryant
5# of production could be
Eng, -ICountz/
lb/ye^` his H a blg
Mfg-Hodges loss for the type of ms noaseB . pollution we are trying now
to guard against.
Capacitor products
Enclosed in A1 or stainless steel for 5 to 25 year period.
Will ultimately have to dispose of capaci tor products.
Recommend we try to save this product for a time.
Action
Eng.,TSDPlant Pol lution Con trol
Kodges/ Kountz
Monsanto must start to work with capacitor people to clean up plant practices. We have set-up to accept material for rework into hydraulic fluid but this relocation is not a satis
factory solution. Material must be reworked to electri cal grade pr destroyed, whichever is more economical Must start now to get con
trol of off-grade material.
Recommend replacement of future Aroclor business with other products. Have 2 years.
Action
Monsanto must help plant clean
up of cur-tourr pl.a.ts recantation, coalescing, adsorption, cispearl of adoc.-beno or recycle of
. ' Konsrr.ro badly needs "know-how" for clean-up.
Monsanto should seek Govt, contract money for clean-up research, (See MRG R. Binning, D. Nelson)
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Transformers
Action Benignus/ Bryant
Transformer Plant can operate in a clean, efficient manner with recycle of off-grade Aroclor.
Should advise disposal of filter element materials so as to minimize chance of water pollution. Incinerate or dispose.
Reworked transformers pose a threat if the Aroclor is dumped into a water stream.
Product transformers can remain closed and no exposure for 25 yrz.
Should try to retain business by clear.-uo; by education of cut'-' tomers.
Action
Benignus/ Bryant
Should try to minimize chance of dumping "old" fluid by re working and by educating co. shops and collecting product for rework or disposal.
Dalton is set up in England
to rework electrical grade
fluid.
Kuhn/Kountz Findett?
Need rework facility here + disposal scheme.
Monsanto Plants
The Dept, of Interior and/or State authorities could monitor plant outfall and find ppm of chlorinated biphenyls at Krummrlch or Anniston anytime they chooBe to do so, This would shut us down depending on what plants or animals
they choose to find harmed.
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Action - Take steps to see that every precaution is taken
to prevent Aroclor entering water streams. Try ' to reduce to ppb level.
P.Hodges-Seek a Govt, contract on adsorption and incineration
TSD
cycles - MRC.
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Engrg.-
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Kountz Take samples of streams and river water and mud
evidence for before and after clean-up. Samples
can be stored for further analysis if we can't
keep up current with analytical determinations.
Apply Mor. cento cincm-vp methods to customer plant
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Actlon -
Engrg. & Kfg.
Kountz and Kuhn
Evaluate liquid incinerators vs. solids
handling incinerators for disposing of Aroclor
and pentachlorophenol wastes. I estimate
Aroolor disposal at 1-4[T lbs/year, exclusive
of cleaning up river bottoms or outfall
bottoms,
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Hydraulics 20i> of 4fT lbs Heat Transfer 10# of 2FT lbs Capacitors ' 5# of 20FT Transformers 5# of 155T
800.000 lbs 200.000 lbs 1,000,000 lbs 750.000 lbs
2,750,000 lbs
Central Eng. & Mfg TSD
Kountz & Kuhn
Set up an incinerator to handle Aroclor dis-\ , , w
posal - preferably one which will handle
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solids such as muds - slurries as well as
,
liquids. Have in operation within 12 months. //' ' '
Ideally have incinerators available different ,
sections for disposal.
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Possible help from MRC
Chronic Toxicity Studies - Ind. Bio-Test
Wheeler Keller Ind.Bio -
Test
Continue studies to establish FDA type limits of toxicity on Aroclor 1242, Aroclor 1254 and Aroclor 1260,
Rework with R. Keller-S. Tucker the number of samples which are to be analyzed for Aroclor in tissue. Try to see if Aroclors are changed metabolically. Does concentration level off, decline if feeding is stopped?
Institute studies against the most limiting biological parameters. If shrimp are the
most limiting species for Aroclor levels of toxicity, then we will have to have biological studies on these species to con firm or deny adverse findings.
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Biodegradation Studies
P Set up rate of biodegradation studies with Inorganic Dlv.
' on Aroclor 1242 vs. Aroclor 1254
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Aroclor 5^42 vs. Aroclor 5^60
Swisher
Chlorinated diphenyl ether
Chlorinated paraffin vs. chlorinated naphthalene
Chlorobromo Aroclors 1242 and 1248
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Baxter Contact Baxter and Lidgett at MCL regularly for results on
Lidgett Aroclor degradation. They are reported to be moving on
MCL
laboratory experiments.
Establish contact with chlorophenol degradation studies of Cellu-Chem Group.
WRR:ras
W. R. Richard
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