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FILE NAME: Union Carbide (UC)
DATE: 1975 May 30
DOC#: UC118
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Memo RE OSHA Regulations - Asbestos Use Warnings, Calidria Asbestos
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Mr. W. C. Thurber Metals Division New York, NY .
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Messrs. R. E. Byrne
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OSHA Regulations - Asbestos Use Warnings
This is in response to your request for comments on Marjorie Chamberlain's memorandum of May 5, 1975 on the above noted Subject. The suggestions m a d e _by the Law Department undoubtedly maximize protection against
possible future product liability suits. On the other hand, cancer is a very emotional word and there is a strong possibility that people will react to it far beyond the real danger involved. This is particularly true when it appears on a label where the actual extent of the risk is not explained.
We cannot predict with certainty what effect the use of the proposed label will have on our business, but the general feeling here is that it is likely to vary somewhere between serious and fatal. RG-244 sales and the future of RG-600, where we have technical and economic advantages but also where substitutes are readily available, appear to be particularly vulnerable.
In view of this it is strongly recommended that the whole picture of
business risks, medical risks and the potential liability risks be reviewed in detail and balanced against each other before we pioneer a new concept in asbestos warning labels.
In reality, the memorandum in question focuses on a problem that has been a major concern for the past several years; i.e., what is Union Carbide's . basic^position on the asbestos and health issue. In lieu of any specific definition of our own, we have been relying on the AIA/NA information which, as I understand it, can be summarized as follows:
1. The 2 fibers/cc limit is safe for chrysotile.
2. Increased incidence of lung cancer require both asbestos exposures sufficient to cause asbestosis and smoking. The effects of these two are synergistic, however.
3. Mesothelioma has only been clearly associated with crocidolite inhalation. There is a real doubt that it can be caused by inhalation of chrysotile fiber.
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Mr. w. t . inumer
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The toxicological picture was outlined orally in general terras to Mr. Stephenson at an Asbestos Reyiew Meeting in early 1974 and he found
it acceptable. He also made it clear that Union Carbide Corporation should not be in a business that caused undue risks to people. It was also stressed that if any new medical information became available that would change the picture, we should review our position promptly.
I know of no new medical evidence to change this basic view. The Borel Case
however, seems to have altered the concurrent legal situations. The
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recommendations in the Chamberlain memorandum place the people in the
asbestos business in the ambivalent position of being charged with the
responsibility of maximizing the use of asbestos {in applications where it
can be used in compliance with OSHA regulations) and simultaneously
being obligated to inform the potential customer that he should really use
something else because asbestos "can cause cancer."
Actually this problem is not unique to asbestos even within Union Carbide.
^ a very similar situation and styrene, vinyl toluene, and phenol appear to be close behind. In fact, it is my understandino that
almost any organic chemical based on the aromatic ring can be considered as a suspected cancer-causing agent. It is suggested that we need to look to broad corporate policy in the area of marketing of potentially hazardous materials for guidance in our particular problem.
In this connection it is relevant to mention that the Union Carbide Corporation vinyl latex marketing group has met their problem by reducing the VC monomer content in the latex to a level where there is little chance for the user's exposure to exceed the OSHA action level. They are not labelinq. A competitor aIso powered the monomer content to a comparable level but a corporate decision was made that they would also label to be on the safe side. The net result of this was a large "label removing ceremony" with pictures and union representatives participating at the customer's (PPG) plant.
Returning to the immediate question of the assessment of the various risks, Union Carbide does not appear to have "in-house" the specialized medical expertise on asbestos to judge the merits of the minority position on asbestos hazards as expounded by the Mt. Sinai group. It is to be expected, however, that all of the latest research results will be argued in great ^ta i l in the next few months during the hearings on the proposed amendments to the OSHA asbestos regulations. It is strongly recommended that we do
not take any unilateral action until we have the benefit of this information and the decision of the U.S. Government on what they consider to be a safe level._ If appropriate, an outside consultant such as Dr. Wright or Dr. Weill might be used at that time for a final review of our position.
We have been in the asbestos business about ten years, are complying with the OSHA regulations and urging our users to do so, and are looking at
thepossibility of medical problems which take 15-30 years to develop. A period of 3-5 months to study the very complex medical, legal and ethical problems in sufficient depth to reach a proper decision does not seem unreasonable. It is also possible that the labeling question will be taken out of our hands in this time period and be covered by government
mandate for the entire asbestos industry. This may occur in the revised OSHA regulations or as a result of two current government studies on the labeling of hazardous materials.
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Mr. W. C. Thurder
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To conclude these general comments, I would like to express two personal opinions which I am sure represent the attitude of the Asbestos Group at Niagara Falls:
1. If there is really an appreciable chance that the use of our product will result in serious injury to a substantial number of people we should not be supplying it for that end use.
2. If it should turn out that exposure to low levels of asbestos does cause serious injury to a substantial number of people, the courts will find a way to assign liability to the producer regardless of the type of warning labels and information dissemination that they may have used.
The first and most basic thing we need is our best assessment of the medical risk a n d o u r best judgment on the reliability of the assessment. When this is available, the legal and business problems can be examined in perspective and an objective decision made on the proper course of acti
The foregoing ideas have been used to prepare the attached commentary on Miss Chamberlain's letter. The comments are not intended to imply an adversary position with our Law Department at a time when communication and cooperation are urgently needed. It is my impression, however, that she was working without benefit of much information on the asbestos health controversy or on the nature of our business. One item not covered is our potential obligation to provide warning labels in the language of the countries to which we ship.
We must be sure that the conclusions drawn accurately represent our situation, so I suggest that we have a meeting with the Law Department soon after the new OSHA regulations are published.
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The commentary on the letter has been done in two parts; one covers the letter itself and the other presents specific remarks on the five recommendations. The memorandum opens with a discussion of 402A liability as it applies to a "defective" product. We are not selling a "defective" product so it is not clear how this is relevant to our problem. The real heart of thematter would seem to lie with comments k and 1, i.e.,
"recognition has been given to those products which are inherently dangerous, incapable of being made safe, and yet their utility to the consumer market counter-balances the risk."
There are two portions of this statement which deserve careful examination, 1) "incapable of being made safe," and 2) "consumer market." If "consumer market" means the general public, that is the type of end use now being studied by the CPSC and the FTC. Very little of our product reaches this market without being materially altered in ways to reduce the potential to produce airborne dust. If "consumer market" means industrial users the situation is obviously different. We need an interpretation of this relative to where our warnings should go.
The phrase_"incapable of being made safe" also presents an interesting consideration. Dry, open, asbestos fiber has a definite tendency to become airborne when handled. We have a great deal of data that shows that our asbestos can be handled in a way that the airborne fiber levels are below the OSHA limits. The potential is constantly present, however, that the material can be mishandled to exceed these levels by a substantial amount.
It is technically feasible to treat our opened products to greatly reduce or eliminate their potential to cause airborne dust under normal handling situations (except abrasion when held by certain binders). One of our competitors, Johns-Manville, has already done this with a product used in the drilling industry and the patent literature contains a substantial amount of information on other applications. It would seem to me that treating our products to make them virtually dustless would be an outstanding defense under general liability. On the other hand, failure to do so, particularly in areas where others have, might leave us wide open to charges of defective product; i.e., one which could be rendered safe but was not, regardless of the extent of our warnings. Commentary on this by counsel is suggested.
The next section of the letter where a question occurs is in the discussion of compliance with OSHA regulations as a defense against strict liability. A number of cases "brought by a private citizen" are cited and the statement is madethat "Section 16 of the OSHA regulations provides that states may assume jurisdiction where OSHA does not apply." This leads to the critical conclusion that we must do considerably more than comply with OSHA to avoid responsibility under strict liability.
The mention of "private' citizen" and "where OSHA does not apply" leads to the following areas that need clarification:
1. Do the cases cited cover the situation where the exposure causing
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the alleged injury took place only in the industrial situation
and where the appropriate state or federal regulations were complied
with?
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