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Subject: (ENV) FW: my notes FFH Cefic meeting Ares(2022)7847155 From: (ENV) Sent:Friday,January29,20213:43PM To: @ec.europa.eu> Cc: @ec.europa.eu> Subject:FW:Basis(SGPDTVPs/16147)PDT/2021/54.01M.Brudermller,CEOBASF+ PresidentCEFICPhonecallDeadlinefortherequesttocontributeisoverdue[Deadline: 29/01/202110:30] CeficwantstosupportGreenDeal Theywanttoreachcarbonneutralitygoalsfor2025and2030 ChemicalsindustryindispensableforreachingGDgoals Transitionisconnectedwithinnovation CriticalaboutCommission's"mission"thatappearstobenotintegratedandnotholistictoCefic (hemeantthateveryDGdoesitsownthingandpromotesitsownprioritieswithoutthinking aboutothers) TheCSSRoundtableisanopportunityto"leverage"andtobemoreinclusivebecause "everythingisinterconnected" Ceficwantstodevelopasectorialdeal,afuturechemicalsdeal.Theywanttohaveapredictable planforthefuture(investmentcycles..theywanttostartnowandnotwaitanother23years forpolicymakers) FFHthenspokewordsofsupportandappreciationfortheindustry;KSexplainedthatweare preparingtheCallforinterestfortheRoundtableandthatweareboundtotransparencyrules forthat MBkeenlysupportedthesafeandsustainablebydesignofthestrategybutweneedthecriteria fast(again:investmentcycles) FFHaskedhowtheindustryisdoingatthemomentfromanaccesstofinancepointofview (recovery/resiliencepackage) MBsaidtheapprovalschemeistoolongforindustry,12to18monthswithoutknowingyouwill beapproved.Chemicalindustryneedsto"electrify"tomeettheclimategoalsby2030butis facedbybureaucraticjungle,andnorealsupportforrenewableenergyparksinEurope. MentionedafantasticenvironmentallyfriendlyplantBASFissettingupinChinawithallthe supportfromtheChineseauthorities"forsustainability"(10billionEURinvestmentBASF) FFHaskedhowchemicalindustrywasviewedincountrieslikePoland repliedthatsometimesinEasternEuropeinefficientchemicalplantsarebeing kept"alive"bytheirgovernments.Healsomentioneddifficultiesforcrossbordertransfersvia "asbestospipes";MMfurthersaidthattheCommissionhassomanyinitiativesthatCeficcannot follow-soonwewillhavetheZeroPollution!Hecomplainedaboutthe"genericrisk"oftheCSS andsaidindustryisdoingitsfirstimpactassessmentsand"impactisveryhigh". 1 FFHagreedthattimelinesanddefinitionsarecrucial. saidthattheannextotheCSSwastheCommission'sworkplanbutthatindustrycannot necessarilyfollowthat. FFHsaidthatZeroPollutionisaboutupdatingtheexistingacquisandmakingprogress, restorationandreducingpollution. KSagreedthatdefinitionsarekey.ThatwewilldevelopinpartnershipespeciallywithCefic.We don'tyetknowhowexactlytheywillbepresentedpossibleCommissionrecommendation.We alreadyhaveastartingpointfor"essentialuse"whichexistsintheMontrealProtocolthatwe canadjust(notwithoutindustry). OnfinancingKSsaidthatEuropeisnotfastandagileandboundtoaccountabilityrules,butthat weaimtobefastwiththerecoveryfunds. Insummarisingthediscussion,FFHmentionedaccelerating"safeandsustainable"wouldbea powerfulthingforindustry;MBclarifiedsomethingabout"basechemicals"thatareaffectedby CO2reductionrulesandiftheyarenolongeravailablebecausetheyarerawmaterials,itisabig problemforindustry.HeaskedthatCSSandCO2reductiongoalswouldbemoreintegrated. FFHconcludedthat"crossborderinfrastructuredoesnotwork".MBworriedabout competitiveness.Heappreciatedthe"frankdiscussion"andreiteratedCeficisaconstructive partner. From:ECBasis @ec.europa.eu> Sent:Friday,January29,20212:56PM To: @ec.europa.eu> Subject:Basis(SGPDTVPs/16147)PDT/2021/54.01M.Brudermller,CEOBASF+ PresidentCEFICPhonecallDeadlinefortherequesttocontributeisoverdue [Deadline:29/01/202110:30] The deadline (29/01/2021 10:30) for the contribution to the request SG-PDTVPs/16147 is overdue. This is an autogenerated message. Please do not reply Click here to access the application 2