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Monsanto
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U0JCT ff(re*(NCi TO
N. T. Johnson St. Louis February 16, 1970
POLLUTION LETTER
P. Craska - Wilmington
C. Clay - St. Louis
J. H. Davidson - Los Angeles
R. A. Damiani - Chicago /
G. F. Fague - Detroit /
R.A. Garcia - Akron /
R. Garnsworthy - Melbourne
J.A..Heilala - Akron
R. Irwin - Houston.'
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J. S. Pullman - New York
J.J. Roder - Chicago
R. Giles - Melbourne
P, J. A. Marsh - Brussels R. Enrhardt - New York T. W. One son - Montreal J.N. Haggart - Brussels V. Morse - St. Louis J. Brydon * Montreal R. Graham - New York P. G. Benignus J. G. Bryant D. E. Roush <rrrrfimp
D. A. Hall D. Ra Pogue D. F a Smith D. Aa Olson
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Attached is a list of questions and answers which may be asked of
you by customers-receiving our Aroclor-PCB letter. You can give
verbal answers; no answers should be given in writing. If the `
customer asks a question you can't answer or if he wants an
answer in writing, then send hie questions to me and we will
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answer from here.
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We want to avoid any situation where a customer wants to return . fluid. The new reformulated products will be available within a
month. We would prefer that the customer use ip his current /inventory and purchase Pydraul 625A, Pydraul ACA, Pydraul ACA /' Winter Grade and Pydraul 540A when available. He will then top
off with the new fluid and eventually all Aroclor 1254 and Aroclor 12 60 will be out of his system. We don't want to take fluid back. Sell him the replacement.
We must be very positive in our approach with each customer relative to our decision to eliminate the use of Aroclor 1254 and Aroclor 1260 in our Pydraul products. We (your customer and Monsanto) are not interested in using a product which may present a problem to our environment. We certainly have no reason to be defensive or apologetic about making this change. The decision to change makes good sense and our customers should commend us, not criticize Our actions. No cn e has forced us to make this
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change. We Have done it to keep our customers out of possible trouble. They should appreciate our effort, and stay with us as a customer on the reformulated Pydrauls. To make this change has cost us research monies and time. Fortunately, we possess the technical skills to make a change in our formulations without affecting the performance of products. Be positive, Take the offense. Don't let a customer or competitor intimidate you. 1 doubt if our competitors know whether their product could present a problem to our environment. You might ask your customer, if he has ever asked Houghton or Stauffer, Carbine, etc. about the effects of their products.
We should also recognize (point this out to your customer) we must clean-up. The Chemical Week article gives him an idea of laws in effect in his state. Read this yourself. Be familiar with the data on each state in which your customers are located. Use this in your discussions.
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We have no replacement products for Aroclor 1254 and Aroclor 1260...- 'at
We will continue to make these products; however, customers
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will have to use their own judgement on continued use.
We can't afford to lose one dollar of business. Our .attitude in
discussing this subject with our customer will be the deciding
factor in our success or failure in retaining all our present
business. Good luck.
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(We have also attached a copy of the letter sent to transformer
customers.)
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Won*nto Compiny 600 N. Undbarph Bouleverd St. loult. Mlitouri 63166 Phon; (314) 6B4-I000
February 9, 1970
OfHSAHIC CHEMICALS DMSJON
Dear Sirt
Recently several newspaper and magazine articles have been published indicating that Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCBs) have been discovered at some points in some marine, aquatic and wildlife environments. The quantities detected are said to be in the parts per million and parts per billion categories.
It is claimed that the PCBs found strongly resemble chlorinated biphenyls containing 54% and 60% chlorine by weight. Products which are sold by Monsanto under the trade names of Aroclor 1254 and 1260 do contain chlorinated biphenyls. In addition to Aroclor 1254 and 1260, Monsanto sells certain functional fluids containing Aroclor 1254. These include Pydraul 625, Pydraul AC, Pydraul AC - Winter Grade, Pydraul 540, Therminel FR-3 and certain dielectric formulations. Several other companies around the world also produce products containing chlorinated biphenyls.
As your supplier of Aroclor 1254 and 1260 and formulated products containing 1254, we wish to alert you to the potential problem of environmental contamination as referred to in the newspaper and magazine articles.
We would like to point out the following additional facts.
1, Products such as Pydraul 90, 135, 230, 312, A-200, F-9, 150 and 60, Turbinol 153 and Therminol FR-1 and FR-2 are not formulated with Aroclor 1254 or 1260.
2. PCBs wih a chlorine content of less than 54% have not . been found in the environment and appear to present no potential problem to the environment.
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W have developed, and are now testing, new formulations to replace the Aroclor 1254 and 1260 components in our Pydraul products. The new products appear to be equal in performance and to have similar physical properties.
We feel that all possible care should be taken in the applica tion, processing and effluent disposal of these products to prevent them becoming environmental contaminants. Of interest to you may be an article in Chemical Week, October 29, 1969 regarding water pollution standards set by each state in the Union. It is attached. This article reflects that good manu facturing practice in the future may require that no products used by any company should find their way into waterways.
Sincerely yours,
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Donald A. Olson Director of Sales Functional Fluids Group
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Monsanto
Monsanto Company 800 N. Undbargh Boulavard St. Louis. Missouri 83168 Phont: (314) 894-1000
OfiOANK CHCMICAL S DIVISION
February 18, 1970
Dear Sir:
Recently several newspaper and magazine articles have been published indicating that Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCBs) have been discovered at some points in some marine, aquatic and wildlife environments. The quantities detected are said to be in the parts per million and parts per billion categories.
It is claimed that the PCBs found strongly resemble chlorinated biphenyls containing 54% and 60% chlorine by weight. Products which are sold by Monsanto under the trade names of Arocloi 1254 and 1260 do contain chlorinated biphenyls. In addition to Arocloi 1254 and 1260, Monsanto sells certain functional fluids containing Aroclor 1254, These include Pydraul 625, Pydraul AC, Pydraul AC - Winter Grade, Pydraul 540, Therminol FR-3 and certain dielectric formulations. Several other companies around the world also produce products containing chlorinated biphenyls.
As your supplier of Arocloi 1254 and 1260 and formulated products containing 1254, we wish to alert you to the potential problem of environ mental contamination as referred to in the newspaper and magazine arti cles.
We would like to point out the following additional facts:
1. Products such as Pydrau> 90,135, 230, 312, A-200, F-9, 150, and 60, Turbinol 153 agd Therminol FR-1 and FR-2 are not formulated with Aroclor 1254 or 1260.
2. PCBs with a chlorine content of less than 54% have not been found in the environment and appear to present no potential problem to the environment.
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products appear to be equal in performance and to have similar physical properties.
We feel that all possible care should be taken in the application, processing and effluent disposal of these products to prevent them becoming environ mental contaminants. Of interest to you may be an article in Chemical Week, October 29, 1969, regarding water pollution standards set by each state in the Union. It is attached. This article reflects that good manufacturing practice in the future may require that no product used by any company should find their way into waterways.
We realise that you have marketed or may now market transformers and other electrical equipment containing dielectric fluids which include Aroclor 1254 and 1260. Although these fluids are sealed into such equip ment it is recognized that occasionally the fluid may be lost through leaks resulting from equipment misuse or equipment repair necessitating replace ment of the fluid. Since the dielectric fluid contained in this equipment is only an incidental part of the over-all unit manufactured by you, we are not notifying the purchasers of such equipment of the potential environmental contamination problem described in this letter. We do recommend, however, that you notify such equipment users of this problem.
Sincerely yours,
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Donald A. Olson Director of Sales Functional Fluids Group
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Question 1
What articles have appeared on the Will you send me copies ?
Answer:
In the U.S., newspaper articles have appeared in the San Francisco
Chronicle on Feb. 24, 1969. the San Francisco Examiner on
Feb. 25, 1969 and the Hartford Times on Aug. 3, 1969. Numerous
articles were generated by the Wisconsin "DDT Hearings" in
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May/ 1969. At.the hearings, witnesses discussed the problem
of PCBs as "interfering substances" in their search for DDT in . .
the environment. PCBs, they said, produced peaks on a gas
chromatograph similar to the ^eaks produced by DDT. In no case
was PCB indicted at the Wisconsin hearings.
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Copies of the articles will .be made available on request. Regional
, managers should contact E. V. John, Public Relations Manager
Organic Chemicals Division, in St. Louis and copies will be for
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In addition to tho newspaper articles mentioned above, there have
been radio broadcasts. At the time of the San Francisco Chronicle
and Examiner articles, radios in tho San Francisco area also
carried the story. In August, tho sports oditor of the Hartford
Times syndicated a radio broadcast on the subject of PCBs, and
in Dec., 1969*' the Canadian Broadcasting po. (radio) carried an
interview they taped with a member of our mo dical department.
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Were Monsnato's Aroclors specifically mentioned in these
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If so, which ^nes ?
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Monsanto's Aroclors were mentioned in some of the articles but.
only in the San Francisco Chronicle story in Feb, , 1969, was
Aroclor 1262 specifically mentioned by number. In several of the
articles, Monsanto was also identified as the sole U.S. producer
of polychlorinated biphenyls, marketed under the tradename of
Aroclor.
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What did the articles on tho PCB problem say?
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Since the outset of the "PCB problem", when the first article
appeared in tho U.S. press in Feb. , 1969, the whole question has
been closely interwoven with the question of DDT as a possible
environmental contaminant.
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The San Francisco Chronicle article carried a headline, "A
Menacing New Pollutant." In rather sensational style, it identified
PCB as a threat to birds and humans, highly toxic in a gaseous j state and related to known cancer-causers. PCB presence in the
environment is rising swiftly, the article stated.
The Examiner article called PCB a "plastic pollutant in the Bay
and Mothers' Milk." This article called PCB an "alarming"
new chemical pollutant that is playing a role in the declining peregrine
falcon population, has Lien found in mothers' milk, and is the "latest
addition to a growing list of chemicals in the ocean---- the newest
symptom of man's chemical invasion of tho ocean. "
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These two articles quoted Dr. Robert Risebrough, a researcher
at the Institute of Marine Resources in the University of California's^
Department of Nutritional Scientists, on the detrimental effects
of PCBs. Later Dr. Risebrough said he had been misquoted in
some newspaper stories.
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The Hartford Times story called PCB pollution a "new puzzle. "
Less sensational than the.San Francisco, articles, the Times gave an
account of PCBs boing found in the environment and the studies
under way to determine their biological effects. This article,
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says Dr. Risebrough, tends to clear PCB of blame.
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Articles generated by the Wisconsin DDT hearings 'generally
discussed PCB as an interfering' substance'discovered in scientists'
search for DDT in the environment. Dr./Risebrough said at the
hearings that there was no proof at the jnoment that PCB alone
can cause thin eggshells, one of the phenomenon
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that he had discovered in studying the/cjedining population of the
peregrine falcon.
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LEGISLATION
Question 1
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Aro thoro any Fodoral/Stat<^,/local laws under which the uso or discharge of Aroclors could be prohibited?
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No existing Federal, State, or local laws prohibit the discharge of Aroclors, However, in & number of states the basic water pollution control legislation is so broad that state agencies cart prohibit chemicals,' deemed necessary, from being discharged.
Question 2
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1c the DDT and the PCB problem related?
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Wc arc not a manufacturer of DDT or other chlorinated hydxocarbon pcsticidp and. therefore, have no knowledge of the seriousness of the charges against DDT other than what has been so widely publicized , on TV, in the press and in technical journals. To the extent that both DDT and PCB are chlorinated hydrocarbons, then there is a similarity. They are sufficiently different in their chemical structures, however, that it would be entirely wrong to assume that both behave ^in the same way in the environment. There is another and more
/ obvious difference. DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides were specifically designed for a job that obviously leads to their being scattered in wide spread fashion across the countryside. Rain, birds, wind, insects furthor scatter these pesticides in an uncontrollable manner. PCBs are not used in this fashion and .
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Monsanto has never sought to promote this. This, we believe, is an important distinction that should not be overlooked if DDT and PCB are linked as a common pollutant of the environment. To our knowledge PCBs have never been identified'in the absence of DBT or other chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides.
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Could it be PCB that's causing the environmental problems
and not DDT?
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Answer:
We believe that prosent-day GLC apd mass spectrometric techniques aro sufficiently accurate to bo able to differentiate between DDT, related pesticides, their metabolites and PCB.
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What authority do State and local governments have in banning//"^ controlling the use of PCBs.
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EFFLUENT AND ITS CONTROL
Question 1
How do I dispose of Aroclor 1254/1260, etc. effluent from my
plant?
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We would suggest collecting all process effluent, equipment washings, tank or drum washings and then regularly taking to the nearest /.
toxic materials dump. You may also be able to use a sanitary land fill if permits are issued for this in your locality. We don't / recommend feeding this material to local sewage treatment plants or taking out to sea in drums for dumping. The so methods do not
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solve the problem of contamination. We are working on the
disposal of these materials by incineration and biodegradatior
Our work in these areas has1 not yet reached the stage where/
we can offer practical suggestions. It'is of interest to note/
however, that research is underway fo find catalysts to make
DDT self-destructive. The possibility exists that we coul;<i
find catalysts that would destroy PCBs in settling tanks
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Can 1 test my effluent to see if my,effluent har no A/odor 1254,
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Yes. Analytical equipment is available that can do this
if the proper technique is used. The basis of/the method
is GLC or gas liquid chromatography. Are you or anyone
in your company familiar with this? Do you'have GLC
equipment? If you do, we can send you a description of
a method that could identify PCB. If not,/there may be
a good analytical testing laboratory in the vicinity where you
could send samples and rely on the results if you want to test
your effluent.,
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Question 3
What is a "safo" PCB level for effluent leaving my plant?
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As our letter points out, parts por million (ppm) and parts
per billion (ppb) have been mentioned in the published articles.
There is still a lot of doub/as to how absolute any quoted
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values are. To bring this/into the realms of reality, this
definition of ppm and ppb may help clarify things.
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To give you a practical example, the escape of one-two gallons
per day could lead tc^samplos in a stream beside the plant
showing 10-50 ppb on analysis.
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Question 4
You must have quite a control problem at your plants--I would think Monsanto's Aroclor plants are/the major polluters--how are you handling control?/
Answer:
The Aroclor products wc make to se/1 at a profit, so economics dictato maximum housekeeping, minimum loses. The Aroclor process is a "dry process" or closed system.
Question 5
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How does Monsanto think Aroclors can got into the environment and cause so much pollution/
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Disposal, leakage from/systems using it, spills, etc.'''
Question 6
If 1 analyze my effluent stream and find ppb there, how do 1 know it didn't come from air-borne contamination or was present in the process water that I pump from the XY2 river into my plant?
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Analyze water entering your plant and compare.
mothod.availablo for sampling air.
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You seem to think from the tone of your letter that the source
of pollution is from effluent disposal into streams. In my
.process, Aroclor 1254, 1260, etc. vapors escape. What pre- j
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Answer (7) :
Articles on PCB interference with pesticides analysis have mentioned the possibility of loss to the atmosphere from vaporization when Aroclors are heated. We find this hard to believe and it warrants considerable investigation.
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Question 1
If PCB is a danger to fish and birds, how about humans?
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The amounts being found in the environment are not considered
a danger to humans or fish. The whole question on chlorinated
pesticides relates to birds.
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Why?
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Question 2*
What'6 the difference between & chlorinated biphenyl and
a terphenyl?
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A tcrphen.yl has three bonze nos linkod together and biphenyl
only two. They arc, therefore, similar but different, just
as Naphthalene is different from benzene,
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Why should PCB be an environmental'contaminant and chlorinated
terphenyls not?
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I don't think there`is any positive answer on this and I can't
give you any theories. However, I would emphasize/that not
all PCBs appear to be contaminants. Those such as Aroclor 1221,
1232, and 1242 haven't been identified in marine, aquatic and wildlife
environments. Chlorinated terphenyls - at least/those made
by Monsanto-- have not been identified in the environment either.
Question 4
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We are actively working on this aspect of biodegradability . in our laboratories at this time. Results of thi6 type of work won't come to hand quickly but our preliminary work
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Question 5
In your letter, you make no' mention of Aroclor 1262 and 1268. What is their status?
Answer:
It could be that their semi-solid/solid water insoluble nature means they are far, far less likely to become "mobile"
contaminants. It could be that their structural differences from Aroclor 1254 and 1260 arc responsible for the apparent
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lack of a problem. In any event, they have not been identified
by scientists in the environment and--believe mo-- a lot of /
scientists seem to be looking for PCBs.
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Both Aroclor 5460 and 1260 contain 60% chlorine. Why is one
a problem (1260) and apparently not the other (5460)?
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A terphenyl has three benzenes linked together and biphenyl only two. They are, therefore, similar but different, just as naphthalene is different from benzene.
.1 would emphasize that not all PCBs appear to be contaminants.
Those such as Aroclor 1221, 1232, and 1342 haven't been
identified in marine, aquatic and wildlife environments.
Chlorinated terphenyls--at least those made by Monsanto--
have not been identified in the environrnent,either.
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Answer: No.
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Question 8^
Is the reason for not resubmitting your petition to the FDA for approval of Aroclor 5460 due to this PCB publicity?
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No.
Question 9
What's the problem then?
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We arc bringing a new solid Aroclor plant on-stream in the next two-thrcc months. We want to make sure it produces/, the same quality Aroclor 5460 wo used in our feeding studies for the FDA. Once we're sure that's O. K. -- and.we/ feel it will be --then we'll get the petition moving again but FDA clearances do take time.
Question 10
Does this PCB publicity mean that FDA approval of Aroclor 5460 is not going to be/obtained?
Answer:
We have no mason to think the two things are related. Aroeior 5460 is not chemically a PCB.'' The delay resulted from the need to set up certain analytical methods to satisfy l/DA. This involved analytical instrumentation and is being completed now, . It is my understanding we plan to resubmit oyr petition although I personally don't know the exact date. ,
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Quo etion 1
Joe Doe buys all my used Aroclor drums without me having to wash them. I get $3. 00 a piece/ 1 can't afford to wash them out. Even if 1 did* what would I do with the washings ?
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What should I do ? Should/1 tell Joe Doo ? Will Monsanto take them back or pay me $3y00 plus my costs to take them to a dump?
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Don't have an answer at this time. We just don't know.
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APPLICATIONS
Question l*
Could Aroclor 1254/1260 escape from my sealant/adhesive/
coating /Whatever into the environment?
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This will depend entirely on the final use to which your product
is used--its'Ultimate disposition.
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My product X contains Aroclor 1254/1260. What should I tell
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Tell your customer--Wc want to advise you of a possible environ
mental problem. Without knowing what your customer does
with product X, this is hard to answer. (We would say that
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Does Monsanto intend to continue manufacture of Aroclor 1254/
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Should I look for replacement for Aroclor 1254/1260, etc, ?
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Does Monsanto have replacement products for Aroclor 1254
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As you know, we have over eighty plasticizers in our line and
there's quite a bit of product interplay so it is possible that '
there is another product in our line that might replace them.
What resin do you use? Perhaps we could look at these
re sin/plasticizer Selector Charts in the back of the Blue Book.
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Is Monsanto working on replacements for Aroclor 1254
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These research fellows are always busy on things like that. To some people Aroclor 1254 and 1260 have draw-backs quite apart from present publicity on PCB. Aroclor 12 54 is fairly volatile. Aroclor 1260 is very viscous and difficult to handle. For polysulfidc sealants, for example, the technic people in St. Louis have just sent us>data on products that wiB behave better than Aroclor 1.254 in polysulfide sealants. Maybe there's something here for you to look at. Let's go over it.
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