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Manage Existing C-8 Products arid processes
The meeting will be held at 8:00 am on April 2, 1998 in CAP 702-1242 (contact is Pinchot) with an audio connection, to WW (B21 Downstairs Small Cfi @ 883-3615, contact is Chapman) and Rik Brandenburg at dw (947-1648).
Time
Topic
8:00-8:05
8:05-8:15 8:15-8:25 8:25-8:30 8:30-8:40
Opening
DW C-8 Project Status & Learnings WW C-8 Project Status 8 Learnings SW C-8 Project Status & Learnings Interlab C-8 blood analytical testing
8:30-8:35 8:35-8:40 8:40-8:50 8:50-8:55 8:55-9:oo
Semiworks Testing of recovered C-8 Update of historical c-8 air data May 7 PAC Review Server change Path forward items
Leader
Chapman Brandenburg Zipfel Pinchot Pinchot/ Brandenburg Zipfel Matson Chapman Chapman Chapman
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Dordrecht C-8 items April 2,1998
Blood analysis: good response from both labs (Shell + NMS). Expect to resolve within 2 months.
DuPont co-inventor on K2C03 scrubbing technology, patent approved in 2 countries sofar.
. FEP scrubber: KOH + KHC03 - K2C03 + H 20 gives great operational improvement. Based on GC we are meeting NER. Have to resolve low results of inlet cone analysis.
Started first contact with Dyneon on C-8 + water recovery technology from waste water.
Waiting for second semiworks test on R-C8 from Dyneon.
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WW C-8 Projects Status Fine Powder Filter
Basic Data Complete Design Complete by 3/27 Construction Complete 5/18 Tie-in with 36 hr window when No. 3 Dryer is down FEP Carbon Adsorbers DRBSCtaueoassnnriitsg-c-itnnurDuspCac8t8ota/i/m9o9C8n8polCemtoepmlbepytelete 7/98 FEP SOLciprmueirbtaebtdeinrbsgyawt a9t0e%r foefrf.higher eff till 8/98 PFA Scrubber
AOdpderitaiotinnaglawta7t0e%r foerffh. igher eff. 5/98 FEP Effluent Recovery
Basic Data Development 5-6/98
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Variability o f previous results are too high - both controls and test material Kronberg indicates that additional testing is required and worth the investment
Repeat with enough controls and test batches to get statistical data (at least (6 of each)
Batches to be submitted by 4/3/98 Repeat Dordrecht batches as part o f test protocol
* Dordrecht material confirms to be 30% C-8 (assuming only 81.1% of the 3M control material is straight chain per NMR results o f 1980 sample) see chart.
Discussions are required with Dordrecht as to why initial batches gave high coagulum
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ANALYTICAL REPORT
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Perflucrc-n-cctanoic acid plus a series of other related fluorocarbon materials have been analyzed using the Broker UP2C3 spectrometer to obtain fluorine-19 spectra at 188.28 MHz. The results are tabulated below.
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Other Miscellaneous Issues
PACE Team Meeting Location and Timing
"Commercialize Fluoroproducts Made Without C-8" moved to Thursday at 10:00 Room rescheduled to CRP702-1227 for all meetings at CRP
FEP Line 3 Timing
Line 3 plant test currently proposed in November Business has inquired about producing 7MM lb of Line 3 material using in 1999 Waiting until November and commercializing in January would require significant
risk on supply and Codes & Standards.
FEP Current Process Plant Test Timing
TEFLON 5100 plant test not likely before 1Q99 Could make a dispersion batch immediately before a cleaning
FS-62 Order
FS-62 set up as a standard raw material 4,000 lb order received Initially delivered in 5 gallon pails. W as replaced with drums Interested in returnable totes
Mav 7 .1 9 9 8 PAC Review
Issues => Staffing
Proposal => Provide written documentation of status
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Server Changes
Background:
C8 PACE data was moved from the NetWare server CSFLPR001 to the NT server CDCRS12 on Tuesday March 24th '
The FTP location for the new server is
C D C R S 12 .L V S .D U P O N T .C O M
\S hared\FIuoroPolym ers\C 8_P A C E
Current Users with access to C-8 Folder on CDCRS12
GREGORY A CHAPMAN
HIROSHI TOTSUKA Robert F. Pinchot Bruno J. Muzzi Leo M. Lech STEPHEN H KORZENIOWSKI ANDREW E FEIRING
Robert C Buck
BRUCE/E BAKER Roger J. Zipfel
MICHIO MAEMORI Matthew C. Koenings KLAUS KIMPEL MING H HUNG PETER L HUESMANN Robert J. Cavanaugh Dr L William Buxton Rik A Brandenburg
( CHAPMAGA AT A1 AT WWPS )
( TOTSUKH AT A1 AT YOVXOO ) ( PINCHORF AT A1 AT WWPS } ( MUZZIBJ AT A1 AT JLCL01 ) ( LECHLM AT A1 AT WWPS ) ( KORZENSH AT JLCL01 AT SMTP ) ( FEIRING AT A1 AT ESVAX ) ( BUCK2RC AT CDCLNM3 )
( BAKERBE AT A1 AT LCL01 )
( ZIPFEL AT A1 AT WWPS ) ( MAEMORM AT A1 AT YOVXOO ) ( KOENINMC AT A1 AT CSOC ) ( KIMPELK AT CSOC AT SMTP ) { HUNGMH AT A1 AT ESVAX ) ( HUESMANN AT A1 AT ESVAX ) ( CAVANARJ AT ISCDCVM1 ) ( BUXTONLW AT A1 AT ESVAX ) ( BRANDERA AT A1 AT EU0IS2 )
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Commercialize Fluoroproducts Made Without C-8
The meeting will be held at 10:00 m on April 2, 1998 in CRP 702-1242 (contact is Koenings) with an audio connection to WW (B21 Downstairs
Small CR @ 863-3615, contact is Chapman).
Time
Topic
Leader
10:00-10:05 Opening 10:05-10:15 June 7-10 batch PTFE TA with FS-62
- TA status & Issues (Gore test requirements) - Tier 1 customer list-dispersion
- Tier 1 customer list-Finishes - Need for copolymer dispersion
10:15-10:20 Fibers spin matrix testing 10:20-10:30 FEP Issues
-Plant Tests -Line 3 -Semiworks FEP Line 3 -Semiworks FEP Dispersion
10:40-10:45 May 7 PAC Review 10:45-10:50 FS-62 as a standard raw material 10:50-10:55 Server change 10:55-11:00 Path forward items
Chapman
Lech Cavanaugh Huesmann Huesmann Cavanaugh Chapman
Chapman Chapman Chapman Chapman
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FEP Semiworks Testing of Dispersion
Circleville
Five samples of FEP dispersion (TE -9519) were prepared for Mort Katz/Donna
Gardner of DuPont Films.
= P27-12040
Standard TE-9519 recipe made in the Washington Laboratory semiworks
=> PZ7-12041-A m P27-12041-B
Sam e as P27-012040 except ZONYL FS-62 was used in place of C-8 Sam e as P27-012041-A except EDTA was added to reduce color/scum formation
= P27-12044-A Same as P27-012041-A except agitator RPM was decreased at kickoff
= P27-12044-B Same as P27-012044-A except EDTA was added to reduce color/scum formation
Polymerization recipes were successfully demonstrated with ZONYL FS-62 at 60%
of the C-8 level. Donna Gardner will evaluate the dispersions in Films applications with the work
probably beginning in May. Details included in letter and FEP bimonthly
Finishes
Four, one-gallon samples of FEP dispersion(G-1818) were prepared for Pete
Huesmann of Finishes.
m P27-12015-A G -1818 except ZONYL FS-62 was used in place of C -8 and no post added surfactant
= P27-12015-B Sam e as P27-012015-A except L-77 was used as a post added surfactant
= , P27-12017-A = P27-12017-B
Semiworks G -1818 (with C -8) except no post added surfactant Sam e as P27-012017-A except L-77 was used as a post added surfactant in place of C -8
Polymerization recipes were successfully demonstrated with ZONYL FS-62 at 52 ^
of the C-8 level. Post added ingredients put in before removing supemate.
Details included in letter and FEP bimonthly
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FEP Semiworks Testing of Line 3 Recipe
December campaign
A nine-batch semiworks campaign was conducted to develop FEP Line 3 recipes using ZONYL FS-62.
The campaign confirmed that FS-62 is a more efficient surfactant than C-8 and can be used down to 40% of the normal C-8 level while still maintaining a stable dispersion.
FS-62 also caused an increase in MFR and a slight increase in reaction time relative to the C-8 recipe, but both of these can be corrected by minor recipe modifications.
The finishing study indicates that FS-62 recipes will require additional K N 03. This is attributed to the FS-62 forming a potassium salt which reduces the KF available to catalyze the end-group chemistry.
Documented in FEP bimonthly
February campaign
Analyzed but not yet extruded Run with FS-62 from FEP TBSA addition tank (20% )
=> Seemed to have less chain transfer??? FS-62 does not have enough chain transfer to allow F-123 to be substituted for
CHCis Same rate as C-8, but closer to limit (run at max pressure for more of batch)
MFRControl by Cfttorofom Levai
Future campaigns
Lindner to pick up effort from here Looking at combining FS-62 effort with alternate chain transfer agent and high solids.
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Steering Team .
The meeting will be held on April 2, 1998 at 1:00 pm via audio conference between CRP 702-1242 (originating site) and Washington Works B21 downstairs conference room (863-3615). Other sites need to provide a phone number to Matt Koenings.
Time
Topic
Leader
1:00-1:05 1:05-1:15 1:15-1:25
Opening Update on Sub-team meetings
Risk analysis update
1:25-1:30 1:30-1:35
1:35-1:40 1:40-1:45 1:45-1:50 1:50-1:55 1:55-2:05 2:05-2:10
- Rhesus monkey study - Environmental fate - FS-62 decomposition products C-8 recovery by Specialty Chemicals
FS-62 Issues - Order - Regulatory Listing (EINICS & MITI) WV State C-8 emissions issues DW capital spending priority C-8 Recovery Env. Exc. Award Server change May 7 PAC Review Path forward items
Chapman Chapman Brock/ Pinchot/ Zipfel
Buck
Chapman Buck Pinchot Pinchot Zipfel Chapman Chapman Chapman
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