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Page 1071 1 real sure, but I think about 1963, '64, something like 2 that. 3 Q In the mid '60s? 4 A Yes. 5 Q If you remember, just testify to what you 6 remember. 7 A Well, that is what I am trying to remember 8 for sure. Probably '65, '70, in that area. 9 BY MR. SMITH: 10 Q So from approximately 1965 to 1970, you were 11 the president of the company? 12 A Right. 13 Q And then you became the CEO, the chief 14 executive officer? 15 A No, chief operating officer, and the guy who 16 was the president was also the chairman, was the CEO, 17 that was Norstead. 18 Q That was Norstead? 19 A Right. 20 Q So fromapproximately 1965 to 1970 you were 21 the number one boss at Owens-Corning Fiberglas