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i J/j iir ( in the united states d ist r ic t court SOUTHSRH DISTRICT OT WEST VIRGINIA CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA JAMES M. ADKINS, A d m in istrator > o f tha E sta ts o f Ralph E. A dkins, > Dscesedf a t a l t > > P lain tiffs , > > v s . ) Mo. 81-2098 MONSANTO COMPANY9 a D eU m r C o rp o ra tio n , ) ) ) ) Dafandant. ) /? . D eposition o f GIRARD INGENTHRON taken on b eh a lf o f the P la in tiffs. /: -1 Im porter: M. Joy Springer J ames May R eporting S ervice CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTERS R.R. 2 - BOX 65 EDWARDSV1LLE. ILLINOIS 62025 . l .\ IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF WEST VIRGINIA CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA JAMES M. ADKINS, A d m in is tra to r ) of the E s ta te of Ralph E, A dkins, ) Deceased, e t a l, ) ) P lain tiffs, ) ) vs. ) MONSANTO COMPANY, a D elaw are C orporation, ) ) ) ) D efendant. ) No. 81-2098 APPEARANCES: M essrs. C a lw e ll, McCormick & Peyton, by W. S t u a r t C a lw e ll, J r , , E sq. M essrs. Bowles, McDavid, G ra ff & Love, by Deborah A. S ink, E sq., For P la in tiffs , For-D efendant. IT IS STIPULATED AND AGREED by and betw een counsel fo r the p la in tif f s and counsel fo r the defendant t h a t th e d e p o s itio n o f GIRARD INGENTHRON nay be ta k e n p u rs u a n t t o Rule 26 (a) o f th e F e d e r a l R ules o f C i v i l P ro c e d u re , on J u ly } - * 1983, a t th e R a d isso n H o te l, Room 215, 9th S tre e t and Convention P laza, S t. Louis, M issouri b e fo re M. JOY SPRINGER, a N o ta ry P u b lic w ith in and f o r the County of Madison, S ta te of I l l i n o i s ; th a t the JAM ES MAY REPORTING 5ERVICE I W' 1 Issuance of n o tic e and dedimus is w aived9 and th a t th is iv t 2 d e p o s itio n may be ta k e n w ith th e same f o rc e and e f f e c t ** 3 as I f a l l F ederal ru le s and s ta tu to ry requirem ents had 4 been compiled w ith . 5 IT IS FURTHER STIPULATED AND AGREED t h a t an y 6 and a l l objections to a l l or any p a rt of th is deposition, 7 except o b jectio n s as to form of the questions asked or 8 answ ers g iv e n , a r e h e re b y r e s e r v e d and may be r a is e d 9 on th e t r i a l o f t h i s c a u s e ; an d t h a t th e s ig n a tu r e o f ; 10 th e deponent Is n o t w aived. 11 12 -* 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 > 20 21 22 23 . 24 25 GIRARD INGENTHRCN p ro d u ced , sworn and exam ined on b e h a lf o f th e p l a i n t i f f s , deposes and says as follow s: EXAMINATION BY MR. CALWELL: (Whereupon th e r e p o r te r narked P la in t i f f s D eposition E x h ib it #296 (Monsanto #8326062) c o n sistin g of 1 page; E x h ib it #297 (Monsanto #232335 and 232336) c o n s is t- '1 l J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E ` -- * 2 (S r 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ,, 20 21 22 23 24 25 * ing o f 2 pages; E x h ib it #298 (Monsanto #232333) c o n s is tin g o f 1 page; E x h ib it #299 (Monsanto #8326240 and #8326241) c o n sistin g of 2 pages; E x h ib it #300 (Monsanto #8326242 and #8326243) c o n s is tin g o f 2 pages; E x h ib it #301 (Monsanto #8322873 and #8322874)coasis tin g of 2 pages; E x h ib it #302 (Monsanto #236182 through #236186) c o n s is tin g o f 3 pages; E x h ib it #303 (Monsanto #233610 through #233612) c o n s is tin g of 3 pages, fo r the purposes of id e n tific a tio n ) Q (By Mr. C a lw e ll) Would you s t a t e your name, p le a se . A G irard Ingenthron. , Q And where do you l i v e , Mr. In g e n th ro n ? A In Creve Coeur, S t. Louis County. Q And y o u 'r e em ployed by Monsanto Company? A Monsanto Company. Q What do you do f o r Monsanto? A P ublic R e la tio n s. I'm D irecto r of th e News B ureau. Q Could you b r i e f l y t e l l me what your education is . A I have a Degree in Journalism from M arquette U n iv ersity . / Q Is th a t lik e a B.S. or an A.B.? J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E l ** 3 1 A A.B. 2 Q Did you have any p o st-g ra d u a te s tu d ie s ? 3 A I w ent to law sc h o o l f o r a b o u t 25 h o u r s , 4 n ig h t sc h o o l, w h ile I was w orking. 5 Q When d id you g ra d u a te from c o lle g e ? 6 A '62. 7 Q Upon g ra d u a tio n from c o lle g e where 8 did you go to work? 9 A Couple of sm all newspapers fo r about . ` 10 th r e e months e a c h . One in K ansas, one in Milwaukee 11 a r e a and th e n t o th e Kansas C ity S ta r a s a r e p o r t e r . 12 I s p e n t a co u p le o f y ea rs t h e r e . 13 Q When d id you f i r s t go to work f o r 14 Monsanto? 15 A *67. S eptem ber, *67. 16 Q I s t h a t th e f i r s t i n d u s t r i a l ch e m ic al 17 company you w ent to work f o r? 18 A Yes. 19 Q P r i o r to t h a t you had worked f o r new s20 p a p e rs? 21 A No. I worked f o r a P .R . ag en cy f o r 22 th r e e y ea rs b e fo re t h a t . 23 Q Where was th a t? 24 A Kansas C ity . 25 Q I presume when you went to work fo r *\ l J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E i 4 M onsanto in 1967, you went d i r e c t l y In to the P.R. end of the business? A R ight. Q You1re p r e s e n tly D ir e c to r o f th e News Bureau? A R ight. Q As I v a g u e ly u n d e rs to o d , M onsanto's d iv id ed up in to a number of o p eratin g companies or u n i t s . Where does th e news b u reau f i t ? A I t 's a corporate s ta ff. Q So your s e r v ic e s , th e n , serv e th e needs of various operating u n its , than, I suppose, across the board? A More th e c o rp o ra te le v e l n eed s, and I a ls o serve as backup fo r the o perating u n it people, Q In the o r g a n iz a tio n a lscheme o f th in g s w hat i s your r e l a t i o n s h i p to Dan Bishop? A Dan i s my p e e r. I h an d le most o u ts id e c o n ta c ts w ith th e news media e x c e p t in th e a re a o f e n v iro n m e n ta l com m unications, and Dan h a n d le s t h a t . I serv e as a backup to him, a ls o . Q Now, how lo n g have you been D ir e c to r o f th e News Bureau? A About four years. Q P rio r to th a t what d id you do f o r the JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE ii > % 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 company? A D irector of E d ito ria l Services Im m ediately p r io r , which means w r itin g p rin te d p ie c e s , speeches, annual rep o rt copy. Q Annual re p o rt copy? A (Nods head a f f i r m a t i v e l y , ) Q Was t h a t a l s o a c o r p o r a te s t a f f le v e l? A Yes. Q Have you alw ays been a t th e co rp o rate s ta ff? ` . A No. Two jo b s p r i o r to t h a t 1 served fo r four to fiv e years in the Polymers and Petrochem icals-* Company. Q And t h a t 's an o p e ra tin g - A O perating u n it a t Monsanto. Did you work fo r any o th e r o p e ra tin g u n it of Monsanto? A No. Q in S t. Louis? Have you alw ays been s ta tio n e d h e re A No. I sp e n t two years in B ru s s e ls . Q Is th a t the Polymers and P stro - A No. T hat was c o rp o ra te - - I t was in te rn a tio n a l d iv isio n , but i t 's a corporate job. q E xcept f o r t h a t tw o-year p e rio d have JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE 1 you always been here In S t. Louis? 2 A Yes. 3 Q O.K. I w ant to hand you w h a t's been 4 narked P la in t if f s E x h ib it #296 (Monsanto #8326062), 5 Mr. In g e n th ro n , and a s k you to tak e a look a t t h a t . A O.K. 7 Q A ll r i g h t . E x h ib it 296 is a l e t t e r 8 on Monsanto le tte r h e a d d ated June 3 , 1982, over Sarah 9 C o llin s ' s ig n a tu re , and y o u 're shown as a copyee on 10 t h a t docum ent, a r e you n o t? > - * 11 A T h a t's c o r r e c t . 12 Q Do you r e c a l l r e c e iv in g t h a t document? 13 A I d o n 't r e c a l l i t . I d o n 't r e c a l l 14 r e c e iv in g i t . 15 Q Now, Mr. In g e n th ro n , would you p le a s e l re a d E x h ib it #296 to th e j u r y . 17 A "As you may know, in th e p a s t two 18 w eek s, M onsanto has become th e p rim ary fo cu s f o r th e 19 p l a i n t i f f s ' a tto r n e y in the Agent Orange c la s s a c tio n 20 s u it re la tin g to discovery and d eposition processes. 21 A cco rd in g to th e a t t o r n e y , he i s doing 4 is b ecause 22 M onsanto was one o f th e two le a d in g s u p p li e r s (second 23 b ehind Dow), i t s p ro d u c t was a p p a r e n tly one o f th e m ost 24 contam inated w ith d io x in , and th e company has an a n t i 25 e n v iro n m e n ta l b i a s . He b a se s t h i s on a 1962 Monsanto JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE &# 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 n 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 M agazine a r t i c l e on p e s t i c i d e s ap p aren tly w r i tte n in response to Rachel C arson's S ile n t S pring. Though Dew seems to have ta k e n th e b ru n t o f Agent Orange b ac k lash , the l a t e s t developm ent in the lit ig a t io n could r a is e M onsanto's v i s i b i l i t y in the minds o f news r e p o r te r s r e l a t i n g to A gent Orange s t o r i e s . Another po ssib le 'lo o k fo r' in th is , over and above g e n e ra l media I n q u ir ie s , comes from an item m entioned in P e te r K ahn's column o f 5 /2 7 /8 2 . He r e p o r te d t h a t . ,. _ Mike W allace was in V ietnam p re p a rin g a 60 M inutes s e g ment on the e f f e c ts o f Agent Orange, we o b v io u sly d o n 't know i f W a lla c e 's p ro d u c e rs a re p lan n in g to re q u e s t in te rv ie w s from A.O. manufac tu re rs . I f they a re , they might have trie d to ta lk w ith us re g a rd le s s of la w s u it. However, w ith the l a t e s t de velopm ent in th e p l a i n t i f f s 1 s t r a t e g y , i t makes th e com pany an even more im p o rta n t s u b je c t." Q Now, Mr. In g e n th ro n , b e fo re we go on to th e n e x t docum ent, you t e s t i f i e d e a r l i e r th a t you were resp o n sib le fo r preparing annual re p o rts o r, a t l e a s t , p ro v id in g d r a f t s o f a n n u a l r e p o r t s f o r th e com pany, is th a t rig h t? ___ A In the p ast. Q When d id you f i r s t b e g in d o in g th a t ? A Oh, p e rh a p s , sev en y e a rs ag o . JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE (- 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And do you s t i l l have t h a t r e s p o n s ib ility ? : A No. Q I f you c o u ld , b r i e f l y t e l l rae how i t 's decidedvhat goes in to an annual re p o rt. A I t ' s a complex p r o c e s s . The v a r io u s p o rtio n s of the book involve d eclsio is and d is trib u tio n s o f in fo rm atio n of a v a r ie ty o f people in th e company. I can go through each se c tio n of the book and e x p la in t h a t . The f i r s t m ajor s e c tio n i s th e C h airm an 's l e t t e r , and th e m ajor in p u t to th a t comes from th e Chairmen. Q Is there a sectio n in your rep o rts having to do w ith to x ico lo g y or hazardous m a te ria l t h a t th e company may be h a n d lin g ? A Yes, th ere o ften is . Q And does t h a t have a s p e c i f i c s e c tio n th a t i t comes under? A E n v iro n m e n ta l. I t may have a d i f f e r e n t name. Q And would th e in fo rm a tio n f o r t h a t p a r tic u la r se c tio n of the r e p o r t, should i t be in th e re , th en come from e i t h e r th e M edical D epartm ent o r th e Department of M edical and Environm ental H ealth, som ething like that? A R ight, th a t's co rrect. i i J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E i % *j% I ; 2 Q And w o u ld th o s e r e q u e s ts com e to you ^i by m y o f m i t t e n m em o, o r s o m e t h in g l i k e t h a t ? 3 A R e q u e sts o r you mean th e in fo r m a tio n ? 4 Q Y es. 5 A Y eah , I g u e ss t h a t 's c o r r e c t . I w o u ld 6 s o l i c i t i t from th e d ep a rtm en t an d I w o u ld re sp o n d -- 7 Q How w o u ld y o u k now t o s o l i c i t t h a t 8 k in d o f In fo r m a tio n ? 9 A I was th en r e s p o n s ib le fo r a sse m b lin g 10 t h e i n f o r m a t i o n f o r t h e b o o k , s o i t w a s p a r t o f t h e 11 r o u t i n e t h e r e . 12 Q W ou ld so m e o n e t e l l p u w h a t in f o r m a t io n . 13 y o u n e e d e d t o s o l i c i t ? 14 A I ' m n o t s u r e 1 u n d e r s t a n d w h a t y o u m e a n . 15 Q W e l l , f o r i n s t a n c e , i f y o u w e r e g o i n g 16 t o i n c l u d e s o m e t h i n g i n t h e a n n u a l r e p o r t a b o u t a b a a 1 t h 17 p r o g r a m o r h e a l t h m o n i t o r i n g p r o g r a m i n v o l v i n g , f o r . 18 e x a m p l e , p a r a - a m i n o - b i p h e n y l t h a t w a s u s e d a t o n e t i m e 19 a t t h e H l t r o P l a n t a n d f o r s o m e r e a s o n t h a t i n f o r m a t i o n ' 20 w a s r e l e v a n t o r w a s t o b e i n c l u d e d i n t h e a n n u a l r e p o r t , 21 h o w w o u l d y o u k n o w t o a s k , f o r e x a m p l e , t h e M e d i c a l 22 D e p a r t m e n t a b o u t t h a t ? I d o n ' t k n o w a n y t h i n g a b o u t PAB 23 w a s e v e r p u t I n t h e r e , b u t y o u s e e b y w a y o f e x a m p l e 24 w h a t I ' m t a l k i n g a b o u t ? 25 A O ne o f t w o w a y s . E i t h e r I w o u l d , \ 1 J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E '` ! 11 * 1 p erh ap s, su g g est s p e c if ic in f o ro a tio n be provided or V 2 the.departm ent would sim ply provide Inform ation and 3 su g g est that th a t be In clu d ed . 4 Q O.K. So th e r e a r e In sta n c e s where 5 you had th e a u t h o r i t y to make a s u g g e s tio n a s to w hat 6 should be Included? 7 A Sure, 8 Q Do you r e c a l l i f you e v e r made a 9 suggestion regarding to x ic ity of any substance being 10 in c lu d e d in th e a n n u a l r e p o r t? 11 A I d o n 't r e c a l l e v e r d o in g t h a t . 12 Q Do you r e c a l l i f an y a n n u a l r e p o r t . 13 d u rin g th e se seven y e a rs t h a t you w ere w orking w ith i t 14 in c lu d e d some in fo rm a tio n a b o u t t o x i c i t y ? 15 A I o n ly worked w ith th e book f o r 16 a p p ro x im a te ly th r e e o r fo u r y e a r s , and I d o n 't r e c a l l 17 i f an y o f th o se c o n ta in e d - - You s a id in fo rm a tio n a b o u t 18 s p e c i f i c t o x i c i t y o f a ch em ical? 19 ' 20 Q R ight. A I d o n 't re c a ll th a t any did. 21 Q Do you r e c a l l a n y th in g b e in g p u b lis h e d 22 in th e a n n u a l r e p o r t r e g a r d in g 2 , 3 , 7 , 8 t e t r a c h l o r o - 23 d ib e n z o -p a ra -d io x in ? 24 A No. 25 Q Do you e v e r r e c a l l a n y th in g a p p e a rin g i 1 J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E '< 1 in an annual re p o rt reg ard in g a chloracne problem a t the N ltr* Plant? A No. Q Do you p re p a re p re s s r e le a s e s a s D ir e c to r o f th e News Bureau? A Yes, some, Q And In term s o f p re p a rin g news r e l e a s e s , hex* does t h a t come a b o u t? How do you know w hat to w rite on? A A gain, i t depends on th e su b je ct:. F in a n c ia l news r e l e a s e s a r e g u id ed by S .E .C . r e g u la tio n s so th o se a r e c l e a r . I d o n 't g e n e r a lly p rep are news r e le a s e s on en v iro n m en tal q u e s tio n s because th a t comes u n d er Dan B ish o p . Q Sven though t h a t may co n cern th e p re s s , th e f a c t is the s u b je c t m a tte r would d ic ta te th a t Dan B ishop would ta k e c a re o f th a t ? A T h at's r ig h t. Q Have you e v e r p re p a re d any news r e le ase s p e rta in in g to the chloracne problem a t the N itro P la n t? A X d o n 't believe so, Q Did you ev er p rep are a news r e le a s e th a t lin k s ch lo racn e w ith 2,3,7,8-TCDD? A I d o n 't think so. JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE t- {& ; Vmt^ . , ,, .. __ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 15 17 18 19 ' 20 21 22 23 24 25 i Q Have you e v e r p re p a re d an y news r e lease p e rta in in g to Raymond S uskind o r any s tu d ie s he may have done an th e N itr o work fa rce? A No. Q Would t h a t a l l come u n d er Dan B ishop? A Yes. Q Who In M onsanto has th e a u t h o r i t y to p u t the f i n a l a p p ro v a l on the an n u al re p o rt? Is th e re some p erso n o r d e p a rtm e n t t h a t does th a t? A Chairman. Q The Chairm an. N o w /1 r e a l i z e t h a t th a t is u ltim a te ly h is re s pons i b i l i t y , b u t a s a p r a c t ic a l m a tte r who r e a l l y does th e rev iew f o r a c c u ra c y and makes the recommendation fo r the Chairman th a t the re p o rt is in order and th e re fo re should be approved? A That would in clu d e s e v e ra l people. I t would include an a tto rn e y th a t worked in the f in a n c ia l a r e a . I t would inclu d e the C om ptroller o f the company, Vice P re sid e n t of P ublic A ffa irs . Each of those people would make recom m endations to t h e i r own s u p e r i o r s , so th e ir su p e rio rs would a ls o be involved. But those th re e people, I guess. Q And on a p a r t i c u l a r ite m t h a t may appear In the annual r e p o r t, would I be c o rre c t In assum ing th a t one o f th ese th re e people th a t you have . J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E t ] 9 ` i& , 1 -'r : 2 id e n tif ie d would go to th e a p p ro p ria te departm ent or *\ operating u n it for c la rific a tio n or correction? 3 A No. That would g e n e ra lly be done 4 by whoever*s doing the w ritin g or production of the 5 annual re p o rt, so th a t person in the Public R elations 6 D epartm ent who w r ite s a s e c tio n on, s a y , the p l a s t i c s 7 company would g e t c le a ra n c e from th e Managing D ire c to r 8 of the P la stic s operating u n it. 9 Q From th e Managing D ire c to r? 10 A R ig h t. 11 Q So t h i s c h e c k in g o f th e work o ccu rs 12 r e a l l y b e fo re i t g e ts to th e th r e e p eo p le t h a t you have 13 i d e n t i f i e d f o r a c c u ra c y -- 14 A Oh, th e y se e i t a t v a rio u s s t a g e s . 15 Q And t h a t would be t r u e , to o , f o r 16 any q u e s tio n a b o u t th e t e c h n i c a l a s p e c ts or th e c o r r e c t - 17 n e s s o f som ething t h a t m ight a f f e c t th e M edical D e p a rt- 18 ment o r DMEH, so you would go d i r e c t l y to t h a t so u rce ? 19 A T h a t' s r i g h t , d i r e c t l y to th e DMEH. 20 Q Has t h i s in fo rm a tio n t h a t you b r i e f l y 21 d e s c r ib e d been th e same s in c e you w ent to work f o r 22 Monsanto? 23 A I can only sp e ak f o r th e l a s t sev en 24 y e a r s . I th in k i t ' s been th e same d u rin g t h a t p e rio d . 25 i Q G enerally. There probably have been "1 1i J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E t , 1< 1 * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ' 20 21 22 23 24 25 soma m inor -- A P ro b a b ly th e same* - Q Now, In c o n n e c tio n w ith E x h ib it 296 w hich you have b efo re you, why would you be r e c e iv in g a copy of that? A For a p erio d of s ix or e ig h t months d u rin g 1982 Dan B ishop was a s s ig n e d to th e B ru sse ls o ffic e and I took over his ad m in istra tiv e d u tie s. TWo peo p le w orking in E n v iro n m en tal Communication r e p o r te d to me d u rin g h is a b s e n c e . One o f them was S arah C o l lin s , so she carb o n ed me r o u t i n e l y on c a r r e s - pondence. Q In connection w ith the su b ject m atter * o f E x h ib it 296, did you rece iv e any b rie fin g in your company or were you o rie n te d to those m atters as you f i l l e d in f o r Dan Bishop? A No p a r t i c u l a r b r i e f i n g . I was f a m i l i a r w ith the general issue here. Q And would t h a t f a m i l i a r i t y have n o r - m ally or n a tu ra lly a rise n in the course of your reg u lar d u tie s? A Yes. Q What Is your m ission a s D ire c to r of News S e rv ic e ? A To make s u re t h a t M onsanto i s r e p r e s e n te d i it , J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E " i- :f 1 In tha p ress in th e a re a s of s c ie n c e , fin a n c e , p erso n n el 2 and other a s p e c ts a c c u ra te ly . 3 Q Does t h a t c h a rg e o f d u tie s e x c e p t o u t 4 environm ental n a tte rs? 5 A Yes. Q Does i t e x c e p t o u t h e a lth in th e work 7 place m atters? 8 A G enerally speaking. 9 Q S in ce you have been D ir e c to r o f Hews 10 S e r v ic e , has t h a t been tru e ? n A Yes. 12 Q Those m a tte rs would be f a i r l y e x c lu 13 s i v e l y a s s ig n e d to your p e e r, Dan B ish o p , i s t h a t c o r r e c t ? 14 A Yes. 15 Q Did you ta k e an y a c t i o n w ith r e g a rd l to th e in fo rm a tio n tr a n s m itte d to you by E x h ib it 296? 17 A I d o n 't r e c a l l an y . 18 Q Your copy o f 296 would have j u s t been 19 f i l e d in th e n o rm al c o u rse o f e v e n ts in your o f f ic e ? 20 A T h rfs c o r r e c t . 21 q L e t me hand you w h a t's been marked 22 P l a i n t i f f s 1 E x h ib it 297 (M onsanto 232335). 23 A l l r i g h t , Mr. In g e n th r a n , t h a t Ex 24 h i b i t 297 is a l e t t e r d ated November 17, 1981, a p p a re n tly , 25 o v er Dan R. B is h o p 's s i g n a t u r e , i s t h a t c o r r e c t ? JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE m * .. i 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 *i A C o rrect. Q And i t ' s on M on san to le tte r h e a d ? A R ig h t. Q You w ere show n a s a c o p y e e on th a t docum ent? A R ig h t. Q As fa r a s you know, you r e c e iv e d a cop y, is th a t co rrect? A T h a t's c o r r e c t. Q Not, I s e e a c c o r d i n g t o t h i s D a n B ish o p la in th e c o u n tr y , s o , a p p a r e n tly , t h a t 's b e fo r e he l e f t fo r B r u sse ls? A R ig h t. 3 Why w o u ld y o u b e r e c e i v i n g a c o p y o f t h i s p a r t i c u l a r memo: A 3 e c a u se I'm in ch a rg e o f th e n ew s, I tr y to s ta y a b r e a st o f a l l is s u e s fa c in g th e com pany, s o h e c a r b o n s me r o u t i n e l y f o r i n f o r m a t i o n a l p u r p o s e s . Q And y o u , lik e w is e , I g u e s s , w ou ld c a r b o n h im i f you f e l t i t a p p r o p r ia te ? A S ig h t. Q F o r th e sam e r e a so n ? A R ig h t. Q In p a ra g ra p h tw o o f th e c o v e r l e t t e r , w h ich , a p p a r e n tly , e n c lo s e s a co p y o f an a r t ic le a p p e a rin g J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E Ii r 1 In the C harleston Sunday G azette-M ail as page 2 o f 2 th at exhibit, the le tte r read s, " I t 's unfortunately 3 very easy to lo se s ig h t o f r e a l b e n e f its when everyone 4 becomes so hung up on p o t e n t i a l r i s k s . T his s t o r y needs 5 to be t o l d more o f te n , b u t we o b v io u sly a r e n 't th e ones 6 to t e l l i t . " Do you see w here t h a t is ? 7 A Yes. 8 Q Do you knew w hat p o t e n t i a l r i s k s 9 Dan B ishop is r e f e r r i n g to ? 10 A I can o n ly s p e c u la te . 11 Q I-That d id i t mean t o you when you re a d 12 t h i s ? 13 14 A- A Chloracne, T d id n 't re a lly think about 15 Q In your p o s i t i o n a s D ir e c to r o f the 16 M onsanto News S e r v ic e , have you r e c e iv e d an y b r i e f i n g 17 a b o u t th e o o t e n t i a l r i s k s o f A gent Orange ex p o su re o r 18 2,3,7,8-TC D D ex p o su re o r a n y th in g lik e th a t? 19 A To ? c e r t a i n d eg ree I have become 20 f a m i l i a r w ith r i s k s a s s o c i a t e d w ith e x p o s u re s . 21 0 And h as t h a t been in c o n n e c tio n w ith 22 your job? 23 A Yes. 24 Q And w hat have you been made aw are of? 25 A T h at th e r e i s a p o t e n t i a l f o r c h lo r a c n e , JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE tm i 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 t * 18 19 ' 20 21 22 23 24 25 *< t h a t th r e e h e a l t h s tu d ie s a t N ltr o have shown t h a t th e r e a re no other long-term h e a lth e ffe c ts asso ciated w ith exposure. Q Do you r e c a l l w hat th r e e h e a lth s tu d ie s you're re fe rrin g to? A Wo. I r e c a l l one a s Dr. S uskind from the U n iv e rsity of C in c in n a ti. (} Do you r e c a l l when t h a t s tu d y may have been done? A T'"' n o t c e r t a i n . T th in k I t was c a n - pie ted In *$2. 9 And a s f a r a s you know, i t was com pleted In '82? A I should say re o o rte d in *82, Q Do you know i f t h a t was a m o rb id ity study? A I 'm not certain . Q And do you know how you found o u t t h a t t h i s s tu d y was r e p o r te d ? Vlas i t som ething you r e a d in th e p ap e rs o r d id you have some c o n n e c tio n w ith the rele ase ? A No. I t 's som ething I read ab o u t. 0 Your company d id n o t provide you w ith any kind o f a b r ie f in g on I t ? A No. J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E r l1 $ :| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 13 19 o CN 21 22 23 24 25 *\ Q And was t h i s som ething t h a t came u n d er Dan B is h o p 's a u t h o r it y ? A Yes. Q Did you re c e iv e any o th er in fo rm atio n from your company ab o u t d io x in or Agent Orange or th e N itro work fo rce? A. Not t h a t I r e c a l l . Q I rd l i k e to hand jdu w h a t's been marked P l a i n t i f f s ' E x h ib it r298 (Monsanto '>232333), 4 O.K. Q A ll r i g h t . Mr. In gent hr on, E x h ib it 298 is on Monsanto l e t t e r h e a d over Dan B ish o p 's s ig n a tu re , dated feptar.iber 24, 1931, is i t not? , ? And, a ^ a in , you were ^hewn as r e c e iv in g a copy of th a t le tte r . -4 Y es. Q As f a r *=:7 you kn'yc, d id you r e c e iv e a copy? A I d o n 't re c a ll. Q You have no re a s o n to d o u b t t h a t you d i d n 't , however? * VT0_ . Q And were you p ro v id e d a copy o f t h i s l e t t e r by way o f j u s t in fo rm atio n from Mr. B ish o p 's J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E 2( 9n *1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 n 12 13 14 15 J 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 i o f f i c e t as f a r a s you know7 vis# ' T hat would be th e re a so n , yes. Q T h at would be th e same re a s o n a s Ex* h i b l t 297, th e n , 1 presume? A R ight. Q I f you would, p le a se , read to the Jury the body of th a t e x h ib it. A "For your inform ation, the follow ing news item s a p p e a re d on th e f r o n t page o f to d a y 's The W all S tr e e t J o u rn a l: 'A gent Orange a f f e c te d more G I's in Vietnam than p rev io u sly thought. S e c re ta ry o f H e a lth and Human S e rv ic e s S chw elker s a id 41 s p ra y in g m issio n s o f th e d e f o l i a n t , w hich i s now lin k e d to a v a r i e t y o f a i lm e n ts , were dumped on a r e a s w here U. S. tro o p s w ere. He s u b s t a n t i a t e d cla im s by v e t e r a n s ' groups of high lev els of exposure but c o u ld n 't give firm fig u re s 1 I t i s v e ry u n c h a r a c t e r i s t i c o f th e WSJ to engage in such biased, sloppy re p o rtin g , e .g ., the use of p h rases lik e 'A gent Orange a f f e c te d 1 and 'th e de- f o l i a n t I now lin k e d t o . . ' I r e a l iz e th a t th is 'now lin k e d ' language p ro b a b ly came from S c h w e lc k e r's p re s s c o n fe re n c e b u t i t ' s n o t c le a r from th is re p o rt and no le s s alarm in g , in any event. J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E t 2: ?m i - i One c o u ld co n clu d e t h a t t h i s s ig n a ls a new 2 a d m in is t r a tio n p o s it io n on A gent O range. We a r e t r y 3 Ing to obtain a copy of the e n tire tra n s c rip t of the 4 p r e s s c o n fe re n c e . By copy o f t h i s memo, I'm a s k in g 5 Mr. P ick ard to give us a re a d in g from h is p erch in 6 W ashington." 7 Q I 'd l i k e to th a n k you, Mr. In g e n th ro n . 8 I 'd lik e to a s k you, Mr. Bishop makes 9 r e f e r e n c e to some u n c h a r a c t e r i s t i c a l l y b ia s e d r e p o r t i n g , 10 in h is o p in io n , by th e W all S t r e e t J o u r n a l. In th e . 11 co u rse o f p erfo rm in g your jo b d id you have a n y l h f o r 12 - mat ion a t your d is p o s a l to a llo w you to make a ju d g n p n t 13 a b o u t th e t r u t h or a c c u ra c y o f th e q u o te in th e W all 14 . S t r e e t J o u rn a l th a t a p p e a rs th e re in p arag rap h 1 o f 15 E x h ib it 298? 16 A I 'm n o t s u re I u n d e rs ta n d what y o u 'r e 17 a s k in g f o r . 18 Q W ell, a p p a r e n tly , j u s t from re a d in g 19 M r. B is h e p 's memo, h e 's co n cern ed t h a t , a p p a r e n tly , 20 th e q u o te d m a te r ia ls in th e W all S t r e e t J o u r n a l a r e 21 b ia s e d a n d , p e rh a p s , s l o p p i l y r e p o r te d . So I'm a s k in g 22 you i f from your jo b i f you had a n y knowledge y o u r s e lf 23 a s to w h eth er th e q u o ted m a te r ia l s a p p e a re d to be b ia s e d 24 or s lo p p ily re p o rte d to you? 25 A Yeah, I would s a y th e y make u n f a i r i J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E 1 i& * ' 1 im plications, * 1 ' ~'m 2Q O.K. And does i t ap p e ar to be s lo p p ily 3 re p o rtad to you a lso ? 4 A I guess i t depends on o n e 's d e f in itio n 5 of sbppy rep o rtin g . 6 Q Yes. Using your d e fin itio n does it? 7 A I guess you could c a l l i t sloppy. 8 Q Now, a g a in , from your p e r s p e c tiv e , 9 what do you base your co n clu sio n th a t the quoted m a terial TO a r e s l o p p i l y r e p o r te d or b ia s e d u n f a i r l y ? 11 A As X s a i d , th e y make I m p lic a tio n s 12 t h a t a v a r i e t y o f a ilm e n ts a r e lin k e d to th e d e f o l i a n t , 13 and t h a t 's n o t p ro v en . 14 Q And in 1581 w hat would you have based 15 t h a t c o n c lu s io n on? 16 A W ell, my g e n e ra l knowledge o f th e 17 is s u e from re a d in g p re ss r e p o r t s , from in fo rm atio n such 18 a s t h i s , in fo rm a tio n c o p ie s on th e is s u e . 19 Q So your co n c lu sio n s or opinions a re 20 drawn from p re s s r e p o r t s and c o p ie s o f memos t h a t you 21 r e c e iv e from th e P u b lic R e la tio n s D epartm ent? 22 A W ell, as w e ll a s o th e r d ata th a t I 23 d e a l t w ith a t th e company, t h a t 's r i g h t . 24 Q What o th e r d a ta would th a t be? 25 A L e t's se e , I would have d e a lt w ith i J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E 2: some o f t h i s In fo rm a tio n in p r e p a r a tio n f o r e x e c u tiv e s fo r the annual re p o rt. Q And w hat in fo rm a tio n was p ro v id ed f o r you to do th a t? A In fo rm a tio n from DMEH, d e a lin g w ith the general issu e. Q And d id t h a t in f o rm a tio n , was i t lik e a memoranda and so fo rth ? A Yes. Q Mr. In g e n th ro n , I 'm going to hand you what*a been marked P l a i n t i f f s 1 D epo sitio n E x h ib it #303 (Monsanto 233610). A O.K. X Mr. In g e n th ro n , E x h ib it 303 is on Monsanto le tte r h e a d , is i t not? A I t is. Q And i t a p p e ars to be aC h lo rin a te d D ibenzo D io x in s D isc u ssio n P aper from G. E. P ag et to George Roush, dated June 5, 1979, Is th a t c o rre c t? A R ight. Q Have you e v e r se en t h i s document b e fo re ? A .1 d o n 't b e lie v e so . Q Is th is the type of b rie fin g document you would have receiv ed ? A No. The type o f document I'm ta lk in g JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE 24 W ir % ' i ab o u t is a v ery sim ple, g e n e ra l, p erh ap s, one paragraph 2 on th e I s s u e . The g r e a t e s t d e t a i l I re c e iv e d was from 3 read in g press r e p o r ts , te c h n ic a l lit e r a t u r e from such 4 books a s C. and E. News, S cience magazine and such. 5 Q I f you would look on page 1 of th a t 6 document under paragraph denominated "Causes of Concern." 7 A R ight. 8 Q And I f you would r e a d p a ra g ra p h num9 bered 1 there to the Jury. 10 Q " 1 . 'D io x in s , th e Most Poisonous 11 S u b stan ces Known to Man* is now a media c l ic h e and 12 ' e l i c i t s sh u d d ers o f h o r r o r a lm o st e q u a l to 'A Sea o f 13 C a rc in o g e n s ' or 'Love C a n a l.1 We must be s e n s i t i v e to 14 t h i s p u b lic aw aren ess and be p re p a re d w ith d a ta and a 15 re sp o n se i f 'M onsanto d io x i n s ' re a c h th e p u b lic eye 16 a s th e y d id in th e n o to r io u s S tu rg eo n s p i l l (no m a tte r 17 w hat th e a c t u a l f a c t s were in t h a t c a s e ) . 1' 18 Q Is th e s u b j e c t m a tte r o f p a ra g ra p h 19 numbered 1 som ething you would have contended w ith in 20 your Job a s D ir e c to r o f News S e rv ic e ? 21 A You mean t h i s s u b je c t m a tte r s p e c i f i c a l l y ? 22 Q Yes. 23 A No. Many p eo p le In th e company have 24 o p in io n s on media tr e a tm e n t an d e x p re s s them t h i s way. 25 T h e r e 's no re a s o n f o r me t o t r e a t t h i s p a r t i c u l a r < J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E 2! $ i f -' 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 n 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 *t paragraph Q Did you re c e iv e any s p e c if ic ch arg e o r d i r e c t i o n w ith r e f e r e n c e w ith how to h an d le th e dioxin Issue id e n tifie d in here as "d io x in s, the most poisonous s u b s ta n c e s known to man"? A No. Q A ll r i g h t . Now, l e t me hand you w h a t's been marked P l a i n t i f f s ' E x h ib it #299 (Monsanto #8326240). \ O.K. Q A ll r i g h t . Mr. In g e n th ro n , E x h ib it 299, lik e w is e , i s on M onsanto l e t t e r h e a d , is i t n o t? A Right. 3 Is i t a May 1, 1979, memorandum over the s ig n a tu r e o f James E, McKee? A T h at's rig h t. 0 And y o u 're shown a s a copyee o f t h a t memo? 'A R ig h t. Q And i s th e r e an y re a s o n to b e lie v e you d id n 't receiv e a copy of it? A No re a s o n . Q And, a g a in , l e t me a s k you why you would have re c e iv e d t h i s p a r t i c u l a r memo? A An in f o r m a tio n a l copy. 1 was in th e J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E * 2 1 same jo b a t th a t tim e, I g u ess. 2 Q In numbered p a ra g ra p h 3 on page 1 o f 3 th e e x h i b i t , r e f e r e n c e is made to th e e s ta b lis h m e n t 4 o f a Task F o rc e , Do you knew w hat Task F orce is r e 5 ferred there? 6 A Ju st as i t 's described. I d o n 't 7 know t h a t I t was e v e r form ed, 8 Q Do you know i f you e v e r re c e iv e d 9 copies of any m a te ria ls th a t such a Thsk Force m ight 10 have g e n e ra te d ? 11 A I d o n 1t r e c a l l a n y , 12 ^ Do you know what the p urpose o f t h a t 13 Task Force was to Imve been? 14 A J u s t as i t ' s d e s c rib e d h e re . 15 ^ I f y o u 'l l lo o k a t , I g u e s s , th e second 16 unnumbered p a ra g ra p h , p a r t e , th e r e is some r e f e r e n c e 17 made to p r e p a r a tio n o f p o s i t i v e s t o r i e s , 18 A R ig h t. 19 Q Do you know w hat t h a t has r e f e r e n c e to ? 20 A I s u re d o n 't . 21 Q Have you e v e r been a sk e d to p re p a re 22 p o s it iv e s t o r i e s on t h i s is s u e in v o lv in g d io x in o r A gent 23 Orange ? 24 A Ho. 25 Q Is t h a t so m eth in g t h a t you in P u b lic JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE ki 1 H alations or News S e rv ic e b u s in e s s a t M onsanto, is t h a t 2 a. charge .th a t you g e t w ith some fre q u e n c y , to p rep are 3 positive stories? 4 A In connection w ith p ro tectio n of 5 worker h ea lth or environm ent, yes. Q To p re p a re p o s it iv e s t o r i e s in con 7 n e c tio n w ith th o se two is s u e s ? 8 A That would be an o cc asio n al iss u e , 9 s u re . Not s to r ie s so n u c h a s company l i t e r a t u r e , such 10 a s a P u b lic A f f a ir s B u l le t in . 11 Q A ll r i g h t . I w ant to hand you w h at's 12 been n ark ed l a l n t i f f s 1 E x h ib it #300 (Monsanto t#8326242), 13 and a s k you to tak e a m inute to look t h a t o v er. 14 * ^7 ' -* i x 15 \ A ll r i g h t . Mr. In g e n th ro n , E x h ib it 1 #300 is a M onsanto memorandum, i s i t n o t? 17 A T h a t's r i g h t . 18 Q And i t ' s d a te d June A, 1979, over 19 Jo c ep h N o la n 's s ig n a tu r e ? 20 A R ig h t. 21 Q And, a g a in , y o u 'r e shown a s a copyee 22 o f t h a t docum ent, r i g h t ? 23 A R ig h t. 24 Q Who is Jo se p h N o lan , i f you know? 25 A Vice P re sid e n t ofP u b licA ffairs,M o n san to . JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE f f? ft ! : ft r 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16* 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 i Q Is th a t a corporate s ta ff position? A Yes. Q And w hat i s your r e l a t i o n s h i p in an o rg a n iz a tio n a l sense to Joseph Nolan? A I re p o rt to the D irector of Public R e la tio n s who r e p o r ts to Jo se p h N olan. 3 H e's a su p e rio r of yours? A R ight. 5 Y ou're once removed from Mr. Nolan? A Uh huh ( y e s ) . 'i Is Mr, N o la n 's o f f ic e In S t . L ouis? .-t. Y es. And, in f a c t , you a l l occupy th e aime o f f i c e a r e a :>r lo c a tio n ? L No. H e's in a n o th e r b u ild in g . 3 And, a g a in , why would you be g e t t i n g a copy o f t h i s memorandum? A Inform ational. Q Do you know why t h i s in fo rm a tio n was b ein g p u t out by Mr. Nolan? A Not s p e c ific a lly , no. Q I f you would, p lease read th a t document to the ju ry . A " R e fle c tin g on our v i s i t to N itr o , I th in k th e re is a d ecisiv e d iffe re n c e between the J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E 2< & $ fc 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ' 20 21 22 23 24 25 :\ a g i t a t i o n a g a i n s t the c h e m ic al companies in the Kanawha V alley and .demonstrations elsewhere. That c r itic a l d if f e r e n c e . l i e s in the f a c t t h a t th e Kanawha s i t u a t i o n has a liv e ly p o te n tia l for n ational exposure. You have an e n e r g e t i c , p ro m o tio n -sav v y s e l f - i n t e r e s t o u tf it in the West V irginia C itizens A c tio n Group. You have an e q u a l l y a g g r e s s iv e la b o r re p re se n ta tiv e from the U nited Steelworkers of America. These' two have a l r e a d y succeeded in f la g g in g the a t t e n t i o n o f pied \a -c o n s c io u s Ur. I r v i n g S e l i k o f f in New X03^ ' a s w e ll as the A s s o c ia te d P re ss f e a t u r e s t a f f , and we can e x p e c t a good d e a l more in the aonch.s ah e a d . This is the same ' bypass - t h e - l o c a l - e s t a b l i s h m ent-and-go-na tio n a V s t r a t e g y t h a t j?-ul AH u s k y , the se lf-sty le d Chicago ra d ic a l, followed in bringing Eastnan Kodak to it..- knees in the l a t e I9 o 0 f c in the e q u a l o p p o r tu n ity case in R o c h e s te r , New York. Prom M onsantoth s t a n d p o i n t , t h e r e a r e some s t r o n g l y n e g a tiv e a s p e c t s to th e s t o r y . `Cur N i t r o p la n t is f i f t y years old and, d e s p ite the commendable improvements made r e c e n t l y , i t - i s s c a r c e l y an a d v e r t i s e ment fo r the modern chem ical complex. The Agent Grange f u r o r p ro v id e s j u s t th e k in d o f 'news peg* t h a t media people lo o k f o r . The PAB e x p e r i e n c e , w ith i t s documented d e a th J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E 3( ti 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 count from bladder can cer, has an evergreen q u a lity *' v th a t guarantees continued press a tte n tio n . The A p p ala ch ia s e t t i n g , r i c h In taw dry t a l e s of business in s e n s itiv ity , fu rn ish es a n a tu ra l backdrop f o r a l l e g a t i o n s o f c o r p o r a te in d if f e r e n c e to th e human c o n d itio n . The S e lik o f f -S u s k in d f a c e - o f f p ro v id e s an added f i l l i p f o r th e m edia. One man s k i l l e d in th e s la s h in g a r t of 1ta lk in g in h e a d l i n e s 1; th e o th e r s ta n d o ff is h ly i n s i s t i n g th a t when he has a n y th in g to sa y h e ' l l do so in the p ro fe s s io n a l jo u rn a ls (presum & y long a f t e r the media have l o s t i n t e r e s t in th e m a tte r). i t 13 im p o rta n t to d i s t i n g u i s h between the two s tu d i e s . J r . ous k in d 's w i l l be r ig o r o u s ly c o n fin e d to d io x in anc the delayed e f f e c ts ( i f any), o f worker exposure. I r . S e lik o ff'a w ill address i t s e l f to d io x in , b u t w i l l be much w id er ra n g in g , exam ining any i l l e f f e c t s w o rk ers may have ir o n t h e i r e x p e rie n c e a t N itr o . I t i s e n t i r e l y p o s s ib le we m ight f a r e v e ry w e ll in th e d io x in stu d y , and n o t so w e ll in the o th e r one which w ill be re le a se d f i r s t . Our c o u n te r - th r u s t has g o t to be 'Monsanto is co n c e rn e d . We c a r e . ' And we have to prove t h i s in words and deeds. In view of the urgency of the s itu a tio n , I JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE i*i 5 #. . th in k i t is Im portant fo r you to a llo c a te v ir tu a lly a l l 2 your tim e and e f f o r t to th is p ro je c t during June and 3 July Then we can take a second lo o k and see where we 4 go from th e re ." 5 Q A ll r i g h t . Thank you, Mr. In g e n th ro n . 6 Did you re c e iv e any b rie fin g s from 7 your departm ent regarding the issues ra ise d in E xhibit 8 3oo: 9 A I con1t believe so. 10 3 Did jon o y er d is c u s s t h i s document 11 w ith anyone in your d e p a rtm e n t w ith r e f e r e n c e to 12 p r e p a r a tio n ; news r e l e a s e s o r an y o th e r a c t i o n t h a t 13 you n ig h t h a /e tar.en in th e c o u rse o f your b u s in e s s ? 14 .4. *.ot :.jac X r e c a l l . 15 H ~o you have an y id e a why. i t ! s ob- 16 s e rv e d in p a ra g ra p h number one th an th e c r i t i c a l 17 d if f e r e n c e l i e s in th e ia c c th e Kanawha s i t u a t i o n has 18 a l i v e l y p o t e n t i a l fo r n a t io n a l ex p o su re? * 19 A Only as he d e s c rib e s i t in the nemo. ' 20 Q You have n o t r e c e iv e d any a d d i t i o n a l 21 i n s t r u c t i o n as to why the Kanawha s i t u a t i o n has a 22 l i v e l y p o t e n t i a l f o r n a t i o n a l ex p o su re ? 23 A No. 24 q Do you know o f an y re a s o n why i t does? 25 A No. i J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E ' 32 ' # * w ' 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1* Q In th e l a s t p a ra g ra p h on page 2 o f th a t docum ent, Mr. Nolan o b se rv e s, " In view of the urgency o f the s ltia tlo n , I thin k I t Is im portant fo r you to a llo c a te v ir tu a l ly a l l your time and e f f o r t to t h i s p r o j e c t d u rin g June and J u l y ." Were you in eluded in th a t d ire c tiv e ? A No. Q Do you have an y id e a what th e u rg en cy is th a t's referred to there? A Ju st as he d escrib es i t . Q What r e la tio n s h ip does your departm ent have w ith Mr. P ie rre W ilk in s, i f any? A H e's a form er employee o f Monsanto who was in th e New York o f f ic e on th e P u b lic R e la tio n s s ta ff. Q And was he a p e e r o f y o u rs? A Yes. Q A gain, a corporate s ta ff? A R ight. Q And how d id h i s Job d i f f e r from y o u rs? A He d e a l t w ith New York media d i r e c t l y . He was a l i a s on f o r S t. L ouis w ith th e New York news m edia. Q E s s e n t i a l l y he had th e same jo b t h a t you had e x c e p t th a t i t was p r im a r ily c o n c e n tra te d on th e J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E . 3 i l1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 ft 19 ' 20 21 22 23 24 25 i New York media? *-1 . A No. He s e rv e d more e x te n s iv e ly th e o p e r a tln g u n its in th a t he was lia s an fo r those u n its w ith th e tr a d e p re s s in New York C ity . Q Did Mr. W ilkins answ er to th e same s u p e rio r th a t you answ ered to? A As I r e c a l l , he d id . Q Do you know why he l e f t th e company? A My u n d e rs ta n d in g o f th e s i t u a t i o n was t h a t he was o ffe re d a t r a n s f e r to S t. Louis and chose to le a v e th e company r a t h e r th a n le av e New Y ork, Q L e t me hand you w h a t's been marked P l a i n t i f f s ' E x h ib it #301 (Monsanto #8322873), and a sk you to take a look a t th a t, i f you would, p le a se . A O.K. Q A ll r i g h t . Mr. In g en th ro n , a g a in , E x h ib it 301 i s on M onsanto l e t t e r h e a d , is i t n o t? A R ight. Q And i t a p p e a rs to be a memorandum p re p a re d by P ie r r e W ilk in s , who a t t h a t tim e was an em ployee o f M onsanto, d a te d May 9, 1979, i s t h a t c o r r e c t ? .A R ight.,,,, ., Q And you w ere shown a s a copyea f o r t h i s memo? A R ight. , JAMES MAY REPORTING SERVICE 3/ e# 1 ' 1 Q And, a g a in , th e r e 's no reason to - 2 b e lie v e 7011 d i d n 't g e t a copy o f i t a t th e tim e? 3 , A T h at's c o rre c t. 4 Q I f you would read paragraphs 1 and 5 2 , p lease, to the ju ry . 6 Q "The In terv iew o f Royce S c o tt and 7 Owen D o lin by AP r e p o r t e r Jan e w h ite c o v e re d th e h i s t o r y 8 o f the 2 ,4 ,5-T in c id en t in 1949, re s u lta n t h ea lth 9 e f f e c ts , the Suskind and the S e lik o ff stu d ie s and a 10 review of cu rre n t environm ental, h e a lth and sa fe ty 11 program s a t N i t r o . 12 P rio r to the r e p o r te r 's a r r i v a l , the th re e 13 o f us had th e o p p o r tu n ity to go th ro u g h a n t i c i p a t e d 14 q u e s tio n s and re s p o n s e s , an e x e r c is e t h a t proved p a r15 t i c u l a r l y v a lu a b le ." 16 Q Thank you, Mr. In g e n t h r on. 17 In p a ra g ra p h 2 r e f e r e n c e i s made to 18 an o p p o r tu n ity to go th ro u g h a n t i c i p a t e d q u e s tio n s and 19 r e s p o n s e s . I s a p a r t o f your jo b to p re p a re q u e s tio n s 20 and answers and the lik e in sim ila r circum stances? 21 A N ot so much th e a n s w e rs . To p re p a re 22 executives fo r the sty le of questioning, yes. 23 Q So a p a r t o f your jo b i s t o be aw are 24 o f , p e rh a p s , a n I n q u ir in g r e p o r t e r 's te c h n iq u e o r s t y l e ? 25 A R ig h t. 1i J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E R V I C E 1 35 ^ 11 2 Q re p o rte ra t'; And do you m a in ta in f i l e s on v a rio u s 3* . A No. 4 Q How do you become f a m ila r w ith t h e i r - - 5 A I was a r e p o r t e r . 6 Q A ll r i g h t . So what y o u 're sa y in g is 7 th is is general observations ra th e r than personal ob- 8 servations about any reporter? 9 A R ight. 10 Q So p a r t o f your jo b is sim p ly to 11 p re p a re e x e c u tiv e s to q u e s tio n and answ er f o r n a t 7 12 A R ig h t. 13 Q Who pre p ares th e aaswe rs to the ques tio n s 14 t h a t a r e p rep ared ? 15 A W hoever1s b ein g in te r v ie w e d . 16 Q And a r e th o se w r i t t e n out? 17 A Not g e n e r a l l y , no . 18 19 * 20 Q Have you p re p a re d w r i t t e n q u e s tio n s w ith prepared responses fo r people to review in the past? A W ritten responses? 21 Q Y es, s i r . 22 A Not f o r an in te r v ie w , n o t t h a t I can 23 r e c a l l . 24 Q O.K. In your jo b as News D ir e c to r 25 and th e seven y e a rs you have been w ith M onsanto d e a lin g 1< J A M E S MAY R E P O R T I N G S E RV I C E 36 is 1 been chare have you had occasion fo r any reason to pub- 2 ,.,'T l i s h w orkers* c o m p la in ts abouc w hat th e y c h in k 1s wrong 3 w ith then? 4 No. 5 Q I t * s alw ays been p r e t t y much M onsanto's side? 7 A I haven*t r e a lly d e a lt w ith the issue 8 auch. 9 Q O.K. I w ant to hand you w hat*s been - . 10 marked E x h ib it #302 (Monsanto #236182), and a s k you t o 11 j u s t ta k e a g lan ce a t i t . I s u s p e c t from your e a r l i e r 12 te stim o n y th a t t h i s was som ething t h a t was p ro b a b ly 13 u n d er Dan R. aish o p * s job? 14 A O.K. 15 A ll r i g h t . Mr. In g e n th ro n , E x h ib it l 302 is a memorandum from Dan R. 3 ish o p , Ls i t n o t? 17 A R ig h t. 18 Q Dated F e b ru a ry 16, 1>`7V, and i t a p p e a rs 19 t o e n c lo s e a co u p le of d r a f t s o f news r e le a s e s or p ro - 20 posed news r e le a s e s , does i t not? 21 A R ig h t. 22 Q You w ere shown a s a copyee or c a rb o n e e . 23 Again, is th is ju s t an o th er in fo rm atio n al d is trib u tio n 24 to you? 25 A C orrect. JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE 38 1 STATU OF ILLIMOIo ) ) SS. 2 COUNTY OF MADISON ) 3 4 I , M. JOY bFRING-R, a R o ta ry P u b lic , d u ly 5 commiss ioiied and q u a lif ie d in anc f o r toe County of 6 .Madison, . r a t e of I l l i n o i s , go hereby c e r t i f y th a t 7 p u rs u a n t to n o tic e came b e fo re sue on the 8 th day of 8 J u ly , 13c, a t the Rad is son h o t e l , Room c !5 , 9 th 9 s tr e e t anc convention P iara, u t, Louis, M issouri, 10 Tr>J i . w if.^,VY'LVii W. .b a s o; * du j.y sworn to te s n t i f y to th - t r u t h anc o th in b u t the j ch of h is 12 ---*-ov, g0-- .-..11. a>iG J,L>g Cl*' i:'ci- te r s in 13 V- OGt --0Vwr V --i. - 1_. .3.t *- J w-LkJ.l .. w L!..'- VciU tiic coupon 14 :n rrfu _ ^ v u r Oc - , -i..G -- -L.liii-ia 1 1 on 15 t -'fuc - - . ' Ui-v. .- - Gr -S ~on , the C che 16 "- j-r --w ^ .O Cl - a. 'J . - V W..C - - - Ott j ^ lV ' 17 '* j --- n .<i ' j >/ j h.-i 3 -- d -g_- .g i.e s s wa s 18 n o t w aived. 19 I FUR 7' c: t _ r._; c - .ch e r a t to r n e y 20 n o r c o u n s e l f o r r. or r - la ce<-' t i n :r J r p i j / e d by anc 21 of the p a r t le s to _'r.o a c tio n iiic'-i t!:^s d e p o s itio n 22 i s tak-.in; auc r u r t n e r , tiia t g a j n o t a r e l a t i v e or 23 employee j* any a t t orne y j i c o u n s e l employed by the 24 par Lios h e re to , or f in a n c ia l ly /in te re ste d in the 25 a c t i o n . JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE  IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have h e re u n to s e t cay 2 hand and a f f ix e d my n o t a r i a l s e a l on t h is 3 day of Ju ly , 1983. 4K 5 7 N otary Public w ithin and fo r the 8 County of M adison, S ta te o f I l l i n o i s . 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JAM ES MAY REPORTING SERVICE 1 1 * 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q I f y o u ' l l lo o k at: th e f i r s t news r e l e a s e on page 1 o f t h e f i r s t r e l e a s e , t h e r e i s some underlined m aterial there. A Right. v} Lid y o u r d e p a r t m e n t have a n y r e s p o n s i b i l i t y for re p o rtin g the issues ra ise d there? A My s e c t i o n , n o . Q In other words, the long-term h ealth e f f e c t s r e l a t i n g t o 3. t o x i c i m p u r i t y i n t h e c h e m i c a l t r i c h l o r o p h e n o l was s o m e th i n g t h a t was u n d e r I'an B ishop n o t y o u , i s *-hac c o r r e c t ? A - Ann on page 1 o f t l ^ t f i r s t news r e r- f e r e . i c e i s ..ace U. the uumoereb p a r a g r a p h 1 t n e r e abou*. a program wnich, a p p a r e n t l y , is a h e a l t h program of sorts? A Uh huh ( y e . , , . Q to you have a n / knowledge about th a t? A Ho, I J o n ' h Q bo you know w h a t ' s b e in g r e f e r r e d t o there? A Only as I r^ad i t . Ar.d, again, t h a t 's something your department would not have had r e s p o n s ib ility fo r, is that correct? JAMES MAY REPORTING SERVICE 39 ' '*>#* 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 s t a t l of I l l i n o i s ) ) ss. COUNTY or MADIS CM ) I , M. JOY SPRINGER, a N o t a r y P u b l i c , d u l y commissioned and q u a lifie d in and fo r the County of Madison, d ta te of I l l i n o i s , do hereby c e r t i f y th a t p u r s u a n t t o n o t i c e came b e f o r e me on t h e 8 t h d a y o f J u l y , 1982, a t t h e R a d i s s o n H o t e l , Room 2 1 5 , 9 t h s tr e e t anc Convention Plaza, St. Louis, M issouri,, - *1 r CIRALD INC .NfHRJN, who was by me d u l y sworn t o t e a t i f y t o th-_ t r u t h and n o t h i n g b u t the t r u t h of h is .uiowi.cugc t o u c h i n g and c o n c e r n i n g th e m a t t e r s in c on t r o v e r y m t n i s c a s e ; tbiat he was th e r e u p o n i - - . m a i n --c upon oa --*, a ne --w e.-^amit ia t i. on r e d u c e d cr w r i t i n g ur.cer ciy s u p e r v i s i o n ; t h a t t h e r e p o s i t i o n i s a t r u e r e c o i l od the t e s t i m o n y g i v e n ay the w i t n e s s ; and s i g n a t u r e o i t h e w i t n e s s was not waived. I FURTKLR CdRTiFY t h a t I am n e i t h e r a t t o r n e y nor counsel fo r nor re la te d to nor employed by and of the p a rtie s to the a c tio n in which th is dep o sitio n i s t a k e n ; and f u r t h e r , t h a t I am n o t a r e l a t i v e or employee of any a t t o r n e y or c o u n s e l employed by the p a rtie s h e re to , or f in a n c ia lly in te re s te d in the a c tio n . JAMES MAY REPORTING SERVICE . 41 1 IN WITNESS ^HEREOF, I have h e r e u n t o s e t my 2 hand and a f f i x e d my n o t a r i a l s e a l on t h i s __________ 3 day of Ju ly , 1983. 4 5 6 7 N o tary P u b lic w ith in and f o r the 8 County of Madison, S tate of I l l i n o i s . 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JAMES MAY REPORTING SERVICE RICHMOND C. COBURN THOMAS L. CHOPT (1 9 1 3 -1 9 8 0 ; J O H N R. McFAHLAND GERALD J. Z A F F T JOHN H. MUSORAVE KENNETH R. HEINEMAN* PATRICK C. DOWD J. W ILLIAM NEWBOLD THOMAS E. DOUGLASS JAMES L. FOGLE* JO H N H. BOYCE B E R N A R D W. GEHDELMAN * L O U IS F. BONACOHSI* RICHARD A. MUELLER1 R IC H A R D S. CORNFELD* OUY A. SCHMITZ OF COUNSEL EDW IN J . PUTZELL. J R . * IL L IN O IS AND MISSOURI Co b u r n , Croft 8 c P utzell Attorneys at Law One Mercantile Ce n t e r - S uite 2 9 0 0 St . Lo u is . Misso u r i 63101-1606 (314) 621-0575 ILLINOIS OFFICE 312 SOUTH ILLINOIS STREET BELLEVILLE. ILLINOIS 6 2 2 2 0 (6IB) 2 7 7 - 1 0 2 0 December 22, 1983 RUTH ZIMMERMAN BEEG* PAUL M. BROWN* ELLEN E. BONACORSI BRUCE D. RYDER ' C H R IS T O P H E R F. J O N E S ' D A N IEL X. ENGLEKUHTIS B. HE EG' LARRY A. REED* WALTER O. T H E ISS* RONALD L. HACK* DAVID S . D e LUGAS ` BRADLEY A. WINTERS M IC H A E L H. OUBERMAN* SU ZA NNE M. HORN* M. JA N E RUDOLPH R O B E R T J . GRYZMALA* P E T E R M. HAMILTON* e d w i n G. Ha r v e y * MARK A. BAYLES* JA M E S W. HOWARD5 DIANA J . HARTER DEAN L. FRANKLIN KETHINA O. BAKEWELL Mr. Rex Carr Cohn, Carr, Korein, Kunin, Schlichter & Brennan 412 Missouri Avenue E. St. Louis, Illinois 62201 Re: Kemner, et al. vs. Monsanto Company, et al. Dear Rex: Enclosed please find, per your request to Mr. Heineman, copies of the depositions of Monsanto executives which were taken in the Adkins vs. Monsanto litigation. BDR/sm enclosure