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UNION -CARBIDE CORPORATION_________________________
Performance Chemicals & Polymers Division Business Development Department
TO: R. W. Rebholz F. J. Shortsleeve
CC: R. J. Blake D. F. Braun G. M. Bryant J. F. Higgins G. T. Kwaitowski T. P. Leyden T. W. Longmire F. J. McCarthy J. L. Meyer G. A. Skoler D. W. Urban
270 Park Avenue, New York, N. Y.
CONFIDENTIAL'
STRICTLY FOR INTERNAL USE NEW BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT DEFT.
DATE: February 21, 1979
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SUBJECT: Silane Treated Astestos
Attached please find pertinent details regarding the above subject matter and understandings between Dresser Industries and UCC. This back ground data (more is available dating back to 1970) should be useful in preparation for a proposed meeting with Dresser people in New York tenta tively set for the week of March 12.
The proposed prime purpose of the meeting should be to clarify matters related to;
1) Determination whether past reasons for justification of this project still apply. That is, what are the effects of changes in UCC/Dresser personnel, changes in the market place and EPA/OSHA requirements, and changes in alternative products (viscosifiers with high temperature stability etc.), and changes in product economics?
2) To j^ggigbligi^^hg^jjgtgjjJig^demam^fgr^silane^reated^asbesto^ That is, in
drilling, completion (packer fluids) markets in oil based and water based systems etc.
3) To reestablish extent of UCC commitment(s), if any, to finalize this project.
Dresser recently has been granted U.S. Patent 4.137.367. This patent has not been studied by the Law Department. A copy of this patent has been ordered, and will be reviewed. It is expected that UCC's position will be staked out vis a vis this patent before we meet the Dresser people.
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-*2 The proposed Dresser meeting should discuss the business/marketing (volume, price, agreements, OSHA/EPA), future aspects of this project rather than the product specifications or end-use requirements. The latter are secondary issues because they are known to our R&D staffs -- both in the Metals as well as Chemicals & Plastics Division. I hope that the above notes will be useful in the preparation of an agenda for the proposed meeting with the Dresser people.
RGB: ms Ends.
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Pertinent Documents on UCC-Dresser Relationships related to Silane Treated Asbestos and Inhouse Data:
1) The Dresser Industry-UCC Agreement; June 19, 1978. 2) "Silane Treated Asbestos in Oil Base Drilling Muds" -- Memo;
October 5, 1977. 3) Preliminary Price Suggestions for Finished Product -- Memo;
June 13, 1978. 4) Speculative Operating Cost Estimate for Silane Treated Asbestos
Dresser Process Memo; March 28, 1978.
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UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION CHEMICALS AND PLASTICS
2710 STEMMONS FREEWAV, SUITE 700. DALLAS, TEXAS 75207 * 2M 631-0 )10
WATS
800 527-1083
May 3, 1978
Mr. James McCaskill Dresser Industries 10201 Westheinver Houston, Texas 77036
Dear Mr. McCaskill:
Per our conversation of May 2, I am forwarding two copies of a proposed agreement between our two conpaines on Silane Treated Asbestos. I will call you next week to set up an appointment.
If you have any questions in the interim please contact me.
Sincerely,
UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION Chemicals and Plastics
Dean F. Braun Account Representative
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bcc: D. F. Baumert - Dallas M. E. Elling - Ny 30O' J. F. Higgins - NY 30
UCC 001671
UNION CARBIDE
INTERNAL CORRESPONDENCE
CHEMICALS AND PLASTICS
2710 STEMMONS FREEWAY, SUITE 700, DALLAS, TEXAS 75207 214-631 0010
To (Name) M. E. Elling Division
Location New York 30
copy to
d. F. Baumert - Dallas J. F. Higgins - New York 30 T. W. Longmire - New York 30
June 16, 1978
Originating Dept.
Answering letter date
subiact silane Treated Calidria Asbestos (SSX) Dresser Industries, Inc.
Dear Mike:
Attached is the signed copy of the secrecy agreement from Dresser. Please initiate the 50 pound sample of pelletized silane treated asbestos to Dresser ASAP. Again, I reconmend that Rusty Raines evaluate it first before sending to Dresser, particularily in regard to the dispersibility and the temperature stability of cormercially produced product.
The ball is in our court now. Please advise when sample is sent.
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Dean F. Braun
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UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION PERFORMANCE CHEMICALS AND POLYMERS DIVISION
270 PARK AVENUE, NEW YOftK, N. V. 10017
April 29, 1978
Dresser Industries, Inc. P. 0. Box 1407 Houston, Texas. 77001
Subject: Silane Treated Calidria Asbestos (SSX)
Gentlemen:
It is understood that you wish to evaluate our experimental Silane Treated Calidria Asbestos (SSX). We are willing to send you experimental quantities of this material and to work with you in developing an oil field market application on the following terms and conditions:
(1) You will use the material for evaluation purposes only and will promptly inform us in writing of the results of your evaluation.
(2) You will maintain the results of your evaluation secret and confidential for a period of two (2) years from our receipt of such experimental information except, (i) when after and to the extent such Information was previ ously known to you as evidenced by your prior written records, (ii) is or becomes generally available to the public, or (iii) is disclosed to you on a non-confidential basis by a third party.
(3) Union Carbide will provide a 50 pound sample of this material during June 1978. Within six months from this first delivery date, you will evaluate this material in your laboratory. If your evaluation confirms the value of the material, you will purchase a minimum of 10,000 lbs. for field evaluations during this 6 month period.
(4) If after the six month evaluation period, you wish to test this material further, Union Carbide agrees not to offer this material to others for drilling application for the period of one year, provided that Dresser Industries agrees to purchase a minimum of 200,000 pounds of this material during this one year period. After this one year period, Union Carbide will offer to sell this material to all customers equally.
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Dresser Industries, Inc. Silane Treated Calidria Asbestos (SSX)
April 29, 1978
(5) If during the time periods of this agreement, any OSHA or EPA regulations should detrimentally affect Dresser's ability to csrry out the minimum purchase terms of this agreement, paragraphs 3 and 4 of this agreement will be suspended.
If you are in agreement with the foregoing, kindly sign and return the duplicate copy of this letter.
Very truly yours,
UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION
Agreed to this
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DRESSER INDUSTRIES, INC,
Title !/P- ZtltZ-
Vice President and General Manager
Performance Chemicals & Polymers Division
UCC 001674
BUSINESS CONFIDENTIAL
MEMORANDUM
OIL PRODUCTION CHEMICALS
SILANE TREATED ASBESTOS IN OIL BASE DRILLING MUDSf
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AUTHOR&
T. R. Malone R. H. Raines
G. M. Bryant
datEi October 5, PROJECT NO.t 126C05 FILE NO. 24193
SUMMARY
Silane modified asbestos based on UCC RG-244 is a
more efficient thickener for oil base drilling
fluids than the reference silane asbestos product from Dresser
Industries. Thermal stability of the UCC material after heat
ing 80 hours at 300F is equivalent to the Dresser product when
compared at equal apparent viscosity. The UCC experimental
product can be prepared in existing facilities and avoids the
troublesome acid leaching pretreatment of the asbestos, thus it
should have significantly lower manufacturing cost than the
Dresser product. It is recommended that additional samples be
prepared in a pelletized form to overcome OSHA/EPA restrictions
which might impede the commercialization of the improved product
in its present form.
INTRODUCTION
Following an inquiry from Dresser Industries
several years ago, work to develop a silane modi
fied asbestos for use as an oil based drilling additive was ini
tiated in the laboratories of the Mining and Metals Division at
Niagara Falls and Chemicals and Plastics/Silicones at Tarrytown.
Products from this study have been submitted to this laboratory
periodically for evaluation. Recently two samples based on
silane treatment of UCC RG-244 (a silica modified asbestos) pre
pared by Dr. S. Ramachandran of M and M were transmitted for
evaluation (1). The process by which these products was made
reportedly eliminates the acid leach pre-treatment of the asbes
tos, which is necessary to make the silane treated asbestos pre
sently being touted by Dresser. Results of our evaluation of
these two samples, Lots 2190-75-1 and 2190-75-2, as thickeners
for oil-based drilling muds are the subject of this Memorandum.
RESULTS AND
Both samples were evaluated at 3, 5 and 7 lbs/bbl
DISCUSSION
in the standard oil base drilling mud system of
332.5 ml #2 diesel oil and 17.5 ml fresh water as
the discontinuous phase. The oil and water were mixed at high
speed on a Waring blender for two minutes prior to the addition
of the asbestos sample. Stirring was then continued for 10 minutes
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CHEMICALS AND PLASTICS
UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION SOUTH CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA
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also at high speed, after which time the sample was removed to a Fann viscometer, cooled to 115F and the viscosities and gel strengths determined. The aging was done in a standard Baroid high pressure cell in a Baroid roller oven at 300F for 80 hours. Each sample was then stirred for two minutes at high speed on the Waring blender, transferred to the Fann, heated to 115F, and the same parameters were redetermined. The apparent viscosity (AV) values shown in Table I are steady state values, having been taken after about 20 minutes at 115F.
The tests at 3 and 5 lbs^bbl concentrations presented no handling problems with either sample. However, both samples were
difficult to mix at 7 lbs^bbl, where the liquid mixture turned to mush about a minute after addition of the asbestos. The higher efficiency of the M and M samples recommends their use at lower concentrations^ than needed for the Dresser Industries product, and at 7 lbs^bbl the M and M samples are too thick to handle properly in the laboratory blender. After 80 hours at 300F all samples were a mobile liquid and uniform in appearance.
All measurements on the M and M products and the Dresser material are presented in Table I and shown graphically in Figures 1 and 2. The data points for Dresser are plotted on Figure 1, while only the line through these points is shown in Figure 2, At the lower concentrations the apparent viscosity of the M and M asbestos is equal to or greater than Dresser's product in all cases; only at 7 lb^bbl concentration was there appreciable loss of viscosity after the heat treatment. As pointed out, this may be attributable to the poor mixing of the M and M samples during its initial preparation at the high concentration.
A very disconcerting note on this project is sounded in the ROC (2) by D. F. Braun concerning the asbestos fiber concen tration in the atmosphere. OSHA/EPA has set 0.5 as the maximum allowable limit. This means some effort must be expended towards reducing the dusting of the present product. The addition of a binder to the asbestos may alter the rheological properties and any pelletized or other modified product should be re-submitted to this laboratory for evaluation prior to external sampling.
CONCLUSION AND
Of the two lots of M and M silane asbestos,
RECOMMENDATIONS
Lot 2190-75-1 is superior. However, both of
M and M samples have significantly higher
thickening efficiency in the diesel oil base fluid than the ref
erence product from Dresser Industries, Furthermore, the thermal
stability after heating 80 hours at 300F is as good for the two
M and M samples as for the Dresser product when compared at the
same apparent viscosity. Because of OSHA/EPA restrictions affec
ting the handling of fibrous asbestos, it is recommended that a
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BUSINESS CONFIDENTIAL
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pelletized or other suitable non-fibril la ting form of the product be developed by M and M, evaluated internally, and samples for evaluation at Dresser as soon as steps can be taken to assure UCC protection.
REFERENCES
1. Ramachandran, S., Letter to R. Raines, "Silane Treated RG-244' June 28, 1977.
2. Braun, D. F., ROC, Dresser Ind., July 6, 1977.
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Attachments:
1 Table 2 Figures
Manuscript date: September 22, 1977 Date Typed: September 28, 1977
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UNION CARBIDE CORPORATION 270 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10017
Performance Chemicals and Polymers D: RECEIVED
JUN i a 1978
ft&EUJNG
TO: Mr. M. E. Ellingt
DATE: June 13, 1978
CC: Mr. T. W. Longmire Dr. N. J. McCarthy Mr. G. W. Yule
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Dear Mike:
I have arranged for product code 17425 to be assigned to CALIDRIA Silatherm Pellets - the silane treated asbestos you plan to purchase from Metals Division and resell to Dresser and others in the oil patch - and will reside in profit center 190.
Based on your suggested $1.50 truckload price and assuming the
material is packaged in 50 pound bags, 1 would suggest the following
schedule,all prices to be FOB King City, California, freight for account
of buyer:
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30,000 lbs. and over
12.000 - 29,000 lbs.
6.000 - 11,999 lbs.
500 - 1,999 lbs.
100 - 499 lbs.
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50 lbs.
$1.50/lb. 1.52/lb. 1.56/lb. 1.62/lb. 1.74/lb. 2.34/lb.
Please let me know if this price schedule is acceptable to all involved and I will implement it.
Very truly yours,
MFC:kr
M. F. Cohen
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Mr. w> c. Thurber Metals Division union Carbide Corp.
270 Park Ave. New York, NY 10017
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Dt March 28, 1978
Originating Dept.
Mineral Products Technology
Aniwerlng letter date
subiect
Speculative Operating Cost Estimate Silane Treated Asbestos Dresser Process
Dear B111:
I have estimated that the operating cost to produce a silane-treated leached asbestos product by a competitor would be in the $0.70 per pound order of magnitude. This cost does not include the price of the silane.
I made several assumptions in arriving at this figure which includes a production rate of 1000 lb. product per shift. 1 assumed three shifts per day and five days per week or a nominal capacity of 750,000 lb. product per year. It also assumes that the manufacturing would be associated with another facility rather than a "gross roots" operation. 1 have also neglected any allocated expenses or corporate overhead.
These costs are sumnarized as follows:
1 tern
Cost ~ $/lb. Product
Direct Labor Indirect Labor Direct Materials (Ex. silane) Indirect Materials
0.373 0.056 0.2175 0.0^35
Total Operating Cost (Ex. silane)
0.69
Very truly yours.
RGW/bsn Attach.
R. G. Woolery
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SPECULATIVE OPERATING COST ESTIMATE SILANE-TREATED ASBESTOS DRESSER PROCEDURE
Item
Price
Quantity
A. Direct Material
1. Asbestos Shipping
$120/ton 70/ton
$190/ton
1.2
2. Sitin',
3. NaOH 4. Methanol
53/ton 15/ton $68/ton
$380/ton
0.44 0.30
5. Fuel 6. Bags + Pal lets
7. Silane Total Direct Materials (Exc. silane)
B. Indirect Materials including utilities @ 20% of A
C. Direct Labor
1. Operators - Dryer/Bagger Leach Circuit FM ter Foreman Maint.
Per shift
Per day
3 3 3 t T
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D. Indirect Labor 6 15% of Direct Total cost per ton of silane product (Exc. silane)
Cost $/ton Product
$ 228.00
30.00 114.00
30.00 20.00 13-00 Not Included $435.00 87.00
$9.00/hr. 9.00/hr. 9.00/hr.
10.00/hr. 9.50/hr.
144.00 144.00 144.00 160.00 152.00
$746.00
$112.00
$1,380/ton $.69/lb.
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METALS DIVISION - "CALIDRIA" ASBESTOS
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CUSTOf-ER CALL REPORT
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CUSTOMER & LOCATION
Dresser Industries-Houston, IX INDUSTRY
OllflAlri PmAirf-s THv
CLASSIFICATION
Join L. Ityers,
SALESMAN
J, JE,. Walsh
.REGION
& D. F. Braun (Qi. & PI)
ASBESTOS HEALTH & REGULATORY DOCUMENTS PROVIDED:
.DATE OF CALL
3/1/79
Other, specify below
PERSONS INTERVIEWED:
Paul Wells - Mgr- Research & Engineering (Magcobar) Dr. Tbm Sanple - Technical Advisor Ray McGlothlin - Technical Advisor
Rob Moseley - l%r. Environmental Engineering
CALL OBJECTIVE*.
Determine Dresser's Interest in RG-600.
RESULTS OF CALL:
Accepted P.O. #29087P for about 20,000 lbs. RG-600 (entire
NF Inventory) at 30c/lb. to be shipped ASAP. OK to ship via rail if labor situation
prevents truck shipment. (Can't ship until picket line down.)
1 explained our asbestos plant situation - that we do not have a major chemical treat ment facility and that we prefer to sell raw asbestos fiber unless a significant market Is available for a treated product. Also, that it would be very difficult to justify a major financial investment at this time.
For health/regulatory reasons, they have removed asbestos from PC-OTA, their additive for oil-base mid systems. They are currently using Ite-69, an amine-treated bentonite, which performs the function of asbestos (suspending barite) at lower temperatures but is "no good" at the elevated temperatures associated with deeper wells. They mist have an asbestos-like product for anticipated PC-OTA sales by the second quarter 1979 and until they can find someone to produce "sllanized mineral fiber."
Based on chemical analysis and electron microscopy, they are convinced that the product covered by their composition of matter patent (U.S. No. 4,137,367) will not be classed as asbestos and will not be subject to asbestos regulations. We discussed our silanetreated BG-244, and it was concluded that our product, because of less leaching, would still be classed as asbestos. They, therefore, are nbt asking us to produce silanetreated RG-244. They plan to run animal and other toxicity tests on their product to prove their contention that it is not asbestos. They have been in touch with OSHA and have written encouragement from Euloh Bingham to proceed. They are working diligently to find a producer. They have the facilities for production, but the plant is located in "downtown Houston" and they do not want to get involved with EPA, etc. Their longrange goal is to provide the "world" with an asbestos-like product which is not classed
as asbestos.
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Ihey evaluated a bag sample of RG-600 and are willing to use it as a stop-gap until they can get silane-treated. I explained that we oust sell it to them as asbestos, but they plan, to blend it with the other PC-OTA ccnponents and package it without narking the bags as containing asbestos. They will interpret the OSHA regulations that the asbestos is bound or coated in such a way that it is not covered. Assuring their field trials with the 20,000 lbs. of RG-600 are successful, they will need about 185 tons during the second and third quarters of this year. Their annual requirements for the PC-OTA product are 400 tons and they expect 10* growth per year. I advised that we could handle this from Niagara Falls, but that the price would be 90c to $1 per pound based cm new cost estimates. I told them we would need 8 vreeks notice to provide a truckload. I promised that I would get back to them in a few days as to whether or not we would provide a continuing supply of RG-600 at a rate of 400 TPY until they could obtain the silane-treated product covered by their patent.
They will get a sample of Oil Wet Super Visbestos (CMSV) from hfantello to evaluate in PC-OTA. If this proves to be a "safe" product for them, I told them the cost should be considerably less than $l/lb. and would probably be such sure readily available. I told them we may be able to ship this product without the OSHA label, but that it would still be asbestos.
I mentioned the RG-244 animal tests we had run at Mellon and they vrould like to see the report if possible.
They have evaluated J-M and other asbestos but have decided that ours, Super Visbestos, is what they need for their product. They had a sub-contractor treat about 10,000 lbs. of Super Visbestos but they did not use U C silane and the performance was not quite up to their standards. They blame this on the silane and the sub-contractor and do not think he can make their continuing requirements. I stood firm that they must obtain Super Visbestos through Mantello ( and Dean insisted they must obtain their silane from him). Unless some major friction develops, it seened clear that they will use UCC raw materials in their final product.
It was concluded that there was no need for a meeting in NY on 3/19/79. I will be in NY on 3/6 and could elaborate on this report to any interested parties.
FOLLOW-UP ACTION REQUIRED:
1. Get 20,000 # RG-600 shipped ASAP. 2. Develop sales accounting for RG-600 produced at NF. 3. Get Mellon report and transmit it to Rob Moseley if possible. 4. Determine whether or not OWSV mast be OSHA-labelled. 5. Determine Montello' s position short- & long-term. 6. Determine if IfttegflAY paeaiC COVETS OUT product and whether or not we want to
oppose the Dresser patent. 7. If we are interested in producing silane-treated asbestos according to their
patent, determine where it could be done and in what time frame. 8. Decide if we will provide RG-600 as required by Dresser and what the price will
be. 9. Sob Moseley would like to get together with Harry Rhodes at some convenient time.
COPIES TO:
D.F. Braun, R. Brantigam, GRA, FJS/RHR, RGW, JKL, HER, TPN. JEW. KC-FHE, NF-FILE
JIM:dal 3/5/79
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P3~S
METALS DIVISION - "CALIDRIA" ASBESTOS
CUSTOMER CALL REPORT
CUSTOMER & LOCATION
Dresser Industries-Houston, IX INDUSTRY Oilfield Products Dlv.CLASSIFICATION Drilling Fluids
John L. Myers,
SALESMAN
J. E. WalshREGIONDATE OF CALL
& D. F. Braun (Ch. & PI)
ASBESTOS HEALTH & REGULATORY DOCUMENTS PROVIDED:
3/1/79
g Ocher, specify below
PERSONS INTERVIEWED:
Paul Wells - Mgr. Research & Engineering Qfagcobar) Dr. Tbm Sanple - Technical Advisor Ray McGlothlin - Technical Advisor
Rob Moseley - Mgr. Environmental Engineering
CALL OBJECTIVE'.
Determine Dresser's Interest In RG-600.
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RESULTS OF CALL:
Accepted P.0. #29087P for about 20,000 lbs. RG-600 (entire
NF Inventory) at 30c/lb. to be shipped ASAP. CK to ship via rail if labor situation
prevents truck shipment. (Can't ship until picket line down.)
I explained our asbestos plant situation - that we do not have a major chemical treat ment facility and that we prefer to sell raw asbestos fiber unless a significant market is available for a treated product. Also, that it would be very difficult to justify a major financial investment at this time.
For health/regulatory reasons, they have removed asbestos from PC-OTA., their additive for oil-base nud systems. They are currently using M3-69, an amine-treated bentonite, which performs the function of asbestos (suspending barite) at lower tecperatures but is "no good" at the elevated temperatures associated with deeper wells. They must have an asbestos-like product for anticipated PC-OTA sales by the second quarter 1979 and until they can find someone to produce "silanized mineral fiber."
Based on chemical analysis and electron microscopy, they are convinced that the product covered by their cocposition of matter patent (U.S. No. 4,137,367) will not be classed as asbestos and will not be subject to asbestos regulations. We discussed our silanetreated RG-244, and it was concluded that our product, because of less leaching, would still be classed as asbestos. They, therefore, are nbt asking us to produce silanetreated RG-244. They plan to run animal and other toxicity tests on their product to prove their contention that it is not asbestos. They have been in touch with OSHA and have written encouragement from Euloh Bingham to proceed. They are working diligently to find a producer. They have the facilities for production, but the plant is located in "downtcwn Houston" and they do not want to get involved with EPA, etc. Their longrange goal is to provide the "world" with an asbestos-like product which is not classed
as asbestos.
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Customer Call Report
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They evaluated a bag sample of RG-600 and are willing to use it as a stop-gap until they can get silane-treated. I explained that we mist sell it to than as asbestos, but they plan,, to blend it with the other PC-OTA components and package it without marking the bags as containing asbestos. They will interpret the OSHA regulations that the asbestos is bound or coated in such a way that it is not covered. Assuning their field trials with the 20,000 lbs. of RG-600 are successful, they will need about 185 tons during the second and third quarters of this year. Their annual requirements for the PC-OTA product are 400 tons and they expect 10v* growth per year. I advised that we could handle this from Niagara Falls, but that the price would be 90p to $1 per pound based on new cost estimates. I told them we would need 8 weeks notice to provide a truckload. I promised that I would get back to them in a few days as to whether or not we would provide a continuing supply of RG-600 at a rate of 400 TPY until they could obtain the silane-treated product covered by their patent.
They will get a sample of Oil Wet Super Visbestos (CWSV) from Montello to evaluate in PC-OTA. If this proves to be a "safe" product for them, I told than the cost should be considerably less than $l/lb. and would probably be much more readily available. I told them we may be able to ship this product without the OSHA label, but that it would still be asbestos.
I mentioned the RG-244 animal tests we had run at Mellon and they would like to see the report if possible.
They have evaluated J-M and other asbestos but have decided that ours, Super Visbestos, is what they need for their product. They had a sub-contractor treat about 10,000 lbs. of Super Visbestos but they did not use U C silane and the performance was not quite up to their standards. They blame this on the silane and the sub-contractor and do not think he can make their continuing requirements. I stood firm that they mist obtain Super Visbestos through Montello ( and Dean insisted they must obtain their silane frcm him). Unless sane major friction develops, it seemed clear that they will use UCC raw materials in their final product.
It was concluded that there was no need for a meeting in NY on 3/19/79. I will be in NY on 3/6 and could elaborate on this report to any interested parties.
FOLLOW-UP ACTION REQUIRED:
1. Get 20,000 RG-600 shipped ASAP. 2. Develop sales accounting for RG-600 produced at NF. 3. Get Mellon report and transmit it to Rob Moseley if possible. 4. Determine whether or not CJWSV must be OSHA-labelled. 5. Determine Montello' s position short- & long-term. 6. Determine if Dresser patent covers our product and whether or not we want to
oppose the Dresser patent. 7. If we are interested in producing silane-treated asbestos according to their
patent, determine where it could be done and in what time frame. 8. Decide if we will provide RG-600 as required by Dresser and what the price will
be. 9. Bob Moseley would like to get together with Harry Rhodes at some convenient time.
COPIES TO:
D.F. Braun, R. Brantigam, GRA, FJS/RHR, RGW, JRL, HER, TPN, JEW, KC-FILE, NF-FILE
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JIM: dal 3/5/79
UCC 001687
fETALS DIVISION - "CALIDRIA" ASBESTOS ^jp3~S
CUSTOMER CALL REPORT
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CUSTOMER & LOCATION
Dresser hviustries-Houston, IX INDUSTRY Oilfield Products Div.CLASSIFICATION Drilling Fluids
John L. Myers,
SALESMAN
J. E, WalshREGIONDATE OF CALL
& D. F. Braun (Ch. & PI)
ASBESTOS HEALTH & REGULATORY DOCUMENTS PROVIDED:
3/1/79
Other, specify below
PERSONS INTERVIEWED:
Paul Wells - Mgr. Research & Engineering Q&gcobar) Dr. Tbm Sample - Technical Advisor Ray McGlothlin - Technical Advisor
Rob Moseley - Mgr. Environmental Engineering
CALL OBJECTIVE:
Determine Dresser's interest in EG-600.
RESULTS OF CALL:
Accepted P.0. #29087P for about 20,000 lbs. RG-600 (entire
NF inventory) at 30c/lb. to be shipped ASAP. OK to ship via rail if labor situation
prevents truck shipment. (Can't ship until picket line dcwn.)
I explained our asbestos plant situation - that we do not have a major chemical treat ment facility and that we prefer to sell raw asbestos fiber unless a significant market is available for a treated product. Also, that it would be very difficult to justify a major financial investment at this time.
For health/regulatory reasons, they have removed asbestos from PC-OTA, their additive for oil-base mud systems. They are currently using TC-69, an amine-treated bentonite, which performs the function of asbestos (suspending barite) at lower temperatures but is "no good" at the elevated temperatures associated with deeper wells. They nust have an asbestos-like product for anticipated PC-OTA sales by the second quarter 1979 and until they can find someone to produce "silanized mineral fiber."
Based on chemical analysis and electron microscopy, they are convinced that the product covered by their composition of matter patent (U.S. No. 4,137,367) will not be classed as asbestos and will not be subject to asbestos regulations. We discussed our silanetreated RG-244, and it was concluded that our product, because of less leaching, would still be classed as asbestos. They, therefore, are nbt asking us to produce silanetreated RG-244. They plan to run animal and other toxicity testa on their product to prove their contention that it is not asbestos. They have been in touch with 0SHA and have written encouragement from Euloh Bingham bo proceed. They are working diligently to find a producer. They have the facilities for production, but the plant is located in "downtown Houston" and they do not want to get involved with EPA, etc. Their longrange goal is to provide the ''world" with an asbestos-like product which is not classed
as asbestos.
pu e^r') UCC 001688
Customer Call Report
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Ihey evaluated a bag sauple of RG-600 and are willing to use it as a stop-gap until they can get silane-treated. I explained that we oust sell it to them as asbestos, but they plan., to blend it with the other PC-OTA cocnponents and package it without marking the bags as containing asbestos. They will Interpret the OSHA regulations that the asbestos is bound or coated in such a way that it is not covered. Assuring their field trials with the 20,000 lbs. of RG-600 are successful, they will need about 185 tons during the second and third quarters of this year. Their annual requirements for the PC-CTIA product are 400 tons and they expect 10% growth per year. I advised that we could handle this from Niagara Falls, but that the price would be 90c to $1 per pound based on new cost estimates. I told them we would need 8 weeks notice to provide a truckload. I promised that I would get back to them in a few days as to whether or not we would provide a continuing supply of RG-600 at a rate of 400 TFY until they could obtain the silane-treated product covered by their patent.
They will get a sample of Oil Wet Super Visbestos (CWSV) from Montello to evaluate in PC-OTA. If this proves to be a "safe" product for them, I told them the cost should be considerably less than $l/lb. and would probably be such more readily available. I told them we may be able to ship this product without the OSHA label, but that it would still be asbestos.
I mentioned the RG-244 animal tests we had run at Mellon and they would like to see the report if possible.
They have evaluated J-M and other asbestos but have decided that ours. Super Visbestos, is what they need for their product. They had a sub-contractor treat about 10,000 lbs. of Super Visbestos but they did not use U C silane and the performance was not quite rp to their standards. They blame this on the silane and the sub-contractor and do not think he can make their continuing requirements. I stood firm that they rust obtain Super Visbestos through Montello ( and Dean insisted they must obtain their silane from him). Uhless some major friction develops, it seemed clear that they will use UCC raw materials in their final product.
It was concluded that there was no need for a meeting in NY on 3/19/79. I will be in NY on 3/6 and could elaborate on this report to any interested parties.
FOUJOW-UP ACTION REQUIRED;
1. Get 20,000 # RG-600 shipped ASAP. 2. Develop sales accounting for RG-600 produced at NF. 3. Get Mellon report and transmit it to Rob Moseley if possible. 4. Determine whether or not 0WSV must be OSHA-labelled. 5. Determine Montello's position short- & long-term. 6. Determine if Dresser patent covers our product and whether or not ve want to
oppose the Dresser patent. 7. If we are interested in producing silane-treated asbestos according to their
patent, determine where it could be done and in what time frame. 8. Decide if we will provide RG-600 as required by Dresser and what the price will
be. 9. Sob Moseley would like to get together with Harry Rhodes at some convenient time.
COPIES TO:
D.F. Braun. R. Braatigam, GRA, FJS/KHR, RGW, JRL, HER, TPN, JEW. KC-FILE, NF-FHE
JIM:dal 3/5/79
UCC 001689
PETALS DIVISION - "CALIDRIA" ASBESTOS
CUSTOMER CALL REPORT
^
Dresser Industries-Houston, IX INDUSTRY CUSTOMER & LOCATION ___ Oilfield Products Dlv.CLASSIFICATION Drilling Fluids
Join L. M;rers,
SALESMAN
J. E. Walsh
REGIONDATE OF CALL
& D. F. Braun (Ch. & PI)
ASBESTOS HEALTH & REGULATORY DOCUMENTS PROVIDED:
3/1/79
tj Other, specify below
PERSONS INTERVIEWED:
Paul Wells - Mgr- Research & Engineering Qfegcohar) Dr. Tcm Sample - Technical Advisor Ray tfcGlothlin - Technical Advisor
Rob Moseley - Mgr. Environmental Engineering
CALL OBJECTIVE*.
Determine Dresser's interest in RG-600.
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RESULTS OF CALL:
Accepted P.O. #29087P for about 20,000 lbs. RG-600 (entire
NF inventory) at 30c/lb. to be shipped ASAP. OfC to ship via rail if labor situation
prevents truck shipment. (Can't ship until picket line down.)
I explained our asbestos plant situation - that we do not have a major chemical treat ment facility and that we prefer to sell raw asbestos fiber unless a significant market is available for a treated product. Also, that it would be very difficult to justify a major financial investment at this time.
For health/regulatory reasons, they have removed asbestos from PC-CIA., their additive for oil-base mud systems. They are currently using TC-69, an amine-treated bentonite, tfiich performs the function of asbestos (suspending barite) at lower temperatures but is "no good" at the elevated temperatures associated with deeper wells. They must have an asbestos-like product for anticipated PC-OTA sales by the second quarter 1979 and until they can find someone to produce "silanized mineral fiber."
Based on chemical analysis and electron microscopy, they are convinced that the product covered by their composition of matter patent (U.S. No. 4,137,367) will not be classed as asbestos and will not be subject to asbestos regulations. We discussed our silanetreated RG-244, and it was concluded that our product, because of less leaching, would still be classed as asbestos. They, therefore, are nbt asking us to produce silanetreated RG-244. They plan to run animal and other toxicity tests on their product to prove their contention that it is not asbestos. They have been in touch with OSHA and have written encouragement from Euloh Bingham to proceed. They are working diligently to find a producer. They have the facilities for production, but the plant is located in "downtown Houston" and they do not want to get involved with EPA, etc. Their longrange gpal is to provide the f'world" with an asbestos-like product which is not classed
as asbestos.
(jpuesr') UCC 001690
Customer Call Report
-2-
They evaluated a bag sample of RG-600 and are willing to use it as a stop-gap until they can get silane-treated. I explained that we oust sell it to than as asbestos, but they plan,, to blend it with the other PC-OTA components and package it without marking the bags as containing asbestos. They will interpret the OSHA regulations that the asbestos is bound or coated in such a way that it is not covered. Assuming their field trials with the 20,000 lbs. of RG-600 are successful, they will need about 185 tons during the second and third quarters of this year. Their annual requirements for the PC-OTA product are 400 tons and they expect 10% growth per year. I advised that we could handle this from Niagara Falls, but that the price would be 90c to $1 per pound based on new cost estimates. I told them we would need 8 weeks notice to provide a truckload. I premised that I would get back to them in a few days as to whether or not we vrould provide a continuing supply of RG-600 at a rate of 400 TPY until they could obtain the silane-treated product covered by their patent.
They will get a sample of Oil Wet Super Visbestos (OHSV) from Montello to evaluate in PC-OTA. If this proves to be a "safe" product for them, I told them the cost should be considerably less than $l/lb. and would probably be nuch more readily available. I told them we may be able to ship this product without the OSHA label, but that it vrould still be asbestos.
I mentioned the FG-244 animal tests we had run at Mellon and they would like to see the report if possible.
They have evaluated J-M and other asbestos but have decided that ours, Super Visbestos, is what they need for their product. They had a sub-contractor treat about 10,000 lbs. of Super Visbestos but they did not use IT C silane and the performance was not quite up to their standards. They blame this on the silane and the sub-contractor and do not think he can make their continuing requirements. I stood firm that they must obtain Super Visbestos through Montello ( ana Dean insisted they must obtain their silane from him). Uhless some major friction develops, it seemed clear that they will use UCC raw materials in their final product.
It was concluded that there was no need for a meeting in NY on 3/19/79. I will be in NY on 3/6 and could elaborate on this report to any interested parties.
FOLLOW-UP ACTION REQUIRED:
1. Get 20,000 # RG-600 shipped ASLAP. 2. Develop sales accounting for RG-600 produced at NF. 3. Get Mellon report and transmit it to Rob Moseley if possible. 4. Determine whether or not CWSV mist be OSHA-labelled. 5. Determine Montello' s position short- & long-term. 6. Determine if Dresser patent covers our product and whether or not we want to
oppose the Dresser patent. 7. If we are interested in producing silane-treated asbestos according to their
patent, determine where it could be done and in what time frame. 8. Decide if we will provide RG-600 as required by Dresser and what the price will
be. 9. Rob Moseley would like to get together with Harry Rhodes at some convenient time.
COPIES TO:
D.F. Braun, R. Braatipam, GRA, FJS/KHR, RGW, JKL, HER, TPN, JEW, KC-FTLE, NF-FILE
JIM:dal 3/5/79
UCC 001691
TO: FROM:
RWR
March 2, 1979
f i.
^Johi^M^er^visite^^res^se^Jndustrie^on Feb. 27 and learned the following about silane asbestos:
1. Dresser believes that the product of their invention is not asbestos because it has been leached and coated. Government agencies have given them encouragement in this belief.
2. Dresser believes that our invention is different but may be included in their patent. Ours, they feel, would still be asbestos. The comparison they make is that ours is a silane covered asbestos whereas theirs is a silane coated silicate.
3. John sold our inventory of about 20, 000 pounds of RG 600 which was produced at Niagara in a pilot plant. Price 30 per lb. Future quantities would be priced at $. 90 - $1. 00 (he so informed Dresser).
4. RG 600 is produced by Woolery at the rate of about 3 tons per day.
5. Dresser requirement for RG 600 will be 185 tons over the balance of
the year (I am not certain about the period) but 185 =* 62 days or 12+
weeks.
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6. Dresser estimates that they can move about 400 tons of silane treated product in their first year and anticipate a 10% growth rate from that base.
7. Dresser does not see anything to be gained by a meeting with UCC because they do not want our product.
I am not sure what commitment, if any, John has made to Dresser regarding RG 600. We should analyze this but it looks interesting. If they do establish their product as non-asbestos it is the type of application we are looking for. We certainly would not want to commit to producing any large quantity of product in our laboratory; therefore, a pertinent question is what type of facility would be needed and what would it cost.
UCC 001692
2- -
C&P will probably raise the question of product performance. RG 244 apparently offers the prospect of better temperature stability. If this is proven to be the case would the product be more attractive than the Dresser product. Price would be a consideration and the RG 244 process should be low cost -- and if we market the material without Dresser or C&P participating we could presumably maintain an edge. If our product is classified as asbestos and theirs is not, would this be a significant factor weighing against ours? It is time to regroup. My own opinion is that this would be a good point to break away from C&P and pursue our own evaluation of the situation. I believe we should also put a restraint on John (if he has not already committed us) with regard to the Dresser route while we sort things out. Dresser apparently regards the matter of a non-asbestos product as very important to the extent that they ignore the facts that the UCC product may be superios and lower cost. I wonder if this argument will stand close inspection. One might also postulate that a chrysotile fiber coated with silane is not asbestos. The meeting on Tuesday should be interesting.
RWR:ac
UCC 001693
TO; FROM;
FJS RWR
March 2, 1979
John Myers visited Dresser Industries on Feb. 27 and learned the following about silane asbestos;
1. Dresser believes that the product of their invention is not asbestos because it has been leached and coated. Government agencies have given them encouragement in this belief.
2. Dresser believes that our invention is different but may be included in their patent. Ours, they feel, would still be asbestos. The compari they make is that ours is a silane covered asbestos whereas theirs is a silane coated silicate.
3. John sold our inventory of about 20, 000 pounds of RG 600 which was produced at Niagara in a pilot plant. Price 30 per lb. Future quantities would be priced at $. 90 - $1. 00 {he so informed Dresser).
4. RG 600 is produced by Woolery at the rate of about 3 tons per day.
5. Dresser requirement for RG 600 will be 185 tons over the balance of
the year (I am not certain about the period) but 185 = 62 days or 12+
weeks.
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6. Dresser estimates that they can move about 400 tons of silane treated product in their first year and anticipate a 10% growth rate from that base.
7. Dresser does not see anything to be gained by a meeting with UCC because they do not want our product.
I am not sure what commitment, if any, John has made to Dresser regarding RG 600. We should analyze this but it looks interesting. If they do establish their product as non-asbestos it is the type of application we are looking for. We certainly would not want to commit to producing any large quantity of product in our laboratory; therefore, a pertinent question is what type of facility would be needed and what would it cost.
UCC 001694
2- -
C8tP will probably raise the question of product performance. RG 244 apparently offers the prospect of better temperature stability. If this is proven to be the case would the product be more attractive than the Dresser product. Price would be a consideration and the RG 244 process should be low cost -- and if we market the material without Dresser or C&P participating we could presumably maintain an edge. If our product is classified as asbestos and theirs is not, would this be a significant factor weighing against ours? It is time to regroup. My own opinion is that this would be a good point to break away from C&P and pursue our own evaluation of the situation. I believe we should also put a restraint on John (if he has not already committed us) with regard to the Dresser route while we sort things out. Dresser apparently regards the matter of a non-asbestos product as very important to the extent that they ignore the facts that the UCC product may be superios and loiyer cost. I wonder if this argument will stand close inspection. One might also postulate that a chrysotile fiber coated with silane is not asbestos. The meeting on Tuesday should be interesting.
RWR:ac
UCC 001695