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1 For the most part. Page 783 2 And you told the jury that asbestos is a 3 toxic substance which, I guess, no one can argue with 4 you about that. 5 But wasn't it true in the 1960s that the 6 medical community and experts thought it was nontoxic 7 or was not toxic at all? 8 MR. SHELLENBERGER: Objection. 9 THE COURT: Overruled. 10 A Well, I would have to go back and look at 11 what the literature said at that stage. I can't -- I 12 don't really recall specifically what people thought 13 was toxic and nontoxic in the '60s. 14 Since he discovered -- I mean, there are 15 cases of asbestosis discovered in the '30s and cancers 16 in the '50s and '60s. 17 I can't believe that they would think it was 18 nontoxic when it was causing all of these diseases. 19 Q You have heard a man by the name of Gerrit 20 Schepers, haven't you? 21 A Sure.