Document RaQVZ8QBvyK3LrDk5aMprDE8E
Reasons the Companies Formed the Asbestos Information Association
Date: June 7, 1973 Description: Speech to the Asbestos Textile Institute by Swetonic
"[N]o one company acting independently could adequately or effectively represent an entire industry in dealing with the press and with government officials. As a result, in late 1970, eight companies gathered in New York City to launch the Asbestos Information Association of North America..."
Reasons the Companies Formed the Asbestos Information Association
Date: June 7, 1973 Description: Speech to the Asbestos Textile Institute by Swetonic
"We know that Dr. Selikoff and various organized labor groups are planning a full scale campaign to bring their interpretation of the asbestos-health problem to the attention of asbestos industry employees throughout the nation. If the industry permits this interpretation to be disseminated unchallenged, the consequences could be grave indeed." [emphasis added]
Formation of the Asbestos Information Association
Date: June 7, 1973 Description: Speech to the Asbestos Textile Institute by Swetonic
"The simple fact is that from the standpoint of today's young activist reporter, industry is the bad guy, and nothing we do, say, or achieve can ever change this impression...." [emphasis added]
Formation of the Asbestos Information Association
Date: June 7, 1973 Description: Speech to the Asbestos Textile Institute by Swetonic
"And now, having heard the bad side of the public relations problem, it's time for the good news. And the good news is.... despite all the negative articles on asbestoshealth that have appeared in the press over the past half-dozon years, very few people have been paying attention." [emphasis added]
Objectives of the Asbestos Information Association
Date: June 7, 1973 Description: Speech to the Asbestos Textile Institute by Swetonic
"In our original concept, the Association would limit its activities to providing accurate, unbiased information on asbestos and health to the press, to the public and to interested politicians and other government officials.... Fortunately -- and properly -- the Association has had the wisdom to alter its original limited concept of its proper functions, and now endeavors to assume whatever activities and responsibilities it deems necessary to protect the interests of the asbestos manufacturing industry in the United States vis-a-vis asbestos-health." [emphasis added]
ASBESTOS INFORMATION ASSOCIATION
Speech by Swetonic to the Asbestos Textile Institute Date: June 7, 1973
"While Dr. Selikoff has, in his zeal, unquestioningly painted a far darker picture than the facts warrant, we should always remember in his defense that the insulation workers he has been studying for more than a
decade were and still are dying from asbestos related disease at an appalling rate. This would be enough to cloud any man's thinking." [emphasis added]
ASBESTOS INFORMATION ASSOCIATION
Speech by Swetonic to the Asbestos Textile Institute Date: June 7, 1973
"The background of industsry efforts to deal with the asbestos-health problem as a national issue goes back nearly a decade, to Dr. Selikoff s now famous 1964 seminar on asbestos disease at the New York Academy of Sciences. While this seminar did much to prick the industry's conscience about asbestos and health, the problem still remained one of limited public and press interest until around 1967, when the media began beating the medical bushes searching for stories that would graphically portray American industry's supposed complete disregard for the environment and for the health and safety of its workmen and the American public." [emphasis added]
ASBESTOS INFORMATION ASSOCIATION
Speech by Swetonic to the Asbestos Textile Institute Date: June 7, 1973
"Even more important, according to an analysis by the Association of more than a dozen mortality studies, including those of Dr. Selikoff, our prediction is that approximately 25,000 past and present employees in the asbestos industry have died or will eventually die of asbestos-related disease. This is less than one-thirteenth of Dr. Selikoff s most recent estimate." [emphasis added]
ASBESTOS INFORMATION ASSOCIATION
Speech by Swetonic to the Asbestos Textile Institute Date: June 7, 1973
"While these estimates should be reassuring to those of us in the mining and manufacturing areas of the industry, we should not forget that 5,000 of our workmen are still going to die of asbestos-related disease and that, all things considered, there is absolutely nothing that we can do to prevent it." [emphasis added]
ASBESTOS INFORMATION ASSOCIATION
Speech by Swetonic to the Asbestos Textile Institute Date: June 7, 1973
"I think it is a gauge of the effectivenes of the total industry involvement in this most crucial matter that of eleven main requirements in the standards, the industry position was accepted totally by OSHA on nine of the eleven, about fifty percent on a tenth, and totally rejected on only one."
ASBESTOS INFORMATION ASSOCIATION
Speech by Swetonic to the Asbestos Textile Institute Date: June 7, 1973
"[W]e have selected four individuals as industry-wide recommendations to OSHA for the four so-called employer spots on the advisory committee. The four selected were Guy Gabrielson, President of Nicolet; Ike Weaver of Raybestos-Manhattan; Dr. Fred Pundsack, Vice President for Research and Development of Johns-Manville; and Cliff Sheckler." [emphasis added]
i
ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE General Meeting
PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBIT
so
2i
June 7, 19 73 Key Bridge Marriott, Arlington? Virginia
In Attendance
7MATEY COnPOr''`TIOIT W. Maaskant ti. J. Scanlan H. II. Walter
GiJILOCa IhC . S. G. Dixit A. Kuznuk
jo:kis-mamville corporation C. G. Guerin T. P. Jackson J. P. Power (C.J-M) VT. B. Reitze W. C. Streib
KICOLrT INDUSTRIES, INC. E. VJ. Russell J. K. ETiittaker
H. K. PORTER COMPANY, E. C. Bratt
D. E. Childers J. W. Echercl L. E. Moody
IIIC.
RAYCESTOS-MJdMLATTAIJ, IMC. M. M. Brooks J. VJ. Franpton, Jr. J. VJ. Bavikina R. T. I'atthevr K. Q. Sccwcroft I. II. Weaver
UKIROYAL, INC. W. D. Bittir.ger B. E. Carden L. F. Dieringer E. A. Morris
CORPORATION LTD. Leclerc
BELL ASBESTOS MIMES LTD. U. H. Smith
LAKE /wSBESTOS OF QUEBEC LTD. E. 7.. Farrell R. Lcfebvrn C. E. Etiefkcr. (Ar.nrco)
KAMU FACTURT-.S 'FJLOIR LED S.A.
R, Arnal Olivo
C7uDI-J7X,ADER, TJICKERSEAM & T7.FT E. J. Leff
AMERICA" SOCIETY FOR TESTING AMD MATERIALS
P. O. Uicodenus
AiSEFSTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE D. M. Eagan, Executive Secretary
GUESTS OF T!IE A.T.I.
Asberit S.A. Marchallo Oattanoo ?,dorno
.Asbestos Information Association/ North America
Matthew m. Ev/etonic
Industrial Safety Equipment Association
Charles II. Runwalt, 7r.
n.S. Bureau of Minos Robert A. Clifton
Total attendance during the t'-'o-day meeting was 1G people, including 10 women and 3f> men - representing 10 cc.npanies or associations.
Fago 2
ATI General fleeting
6/7/73
!i i n u t e s
1. The General Hooting of the Asbestos Textile Institute was called to order by President M. Q. Ccowcroft at 1:00 P.M. , dune 7, 1^73.
2. President Scovcroft welcomed the members and guests in atten dance and introduced four guests; namely, Matthew M. .Owetonic. Executive Secretary, Asbestos Information Association/Morth America; f'archello Cattaneo Adorno, Asberit E.A.; Robert A. Clifton, Division of Mor.netallic Minerals, U.C. bureau of Mines; and Charles ?'. Eumwalt, Jr., Secretary/Treasurer, Industrial .Safety rguipment Association, and member of its Safety fearing Apparel Product Croup.
3_^_'Following past tradition. President Dcowcroft asked each merit.or in attendance to rise and state his name and company affiliation.
4. President Scowcroft called for the reading of the minutes of the last stated General Meeting. It was moved by A. Muzir.uk, seconded by T. P. Jackson, and so carried, to dispense with the reading of same.
5. Treasurer T. A. Morris presented the Report of Funds of the Institute as of April 30, 1973. C. r.. .Gtiefben nov.d the report accepted. The notion was seconded by .*>. G. Dixit and so voted, unanimously. A copy of the full Report is attached to these Minutes.
be
f. In the absence of M, p,, Alcorn, the Legal Counsel address was gTvcn by Eugene J. Luff of Cadwnlnder, Mickershan f, Taft. The full text of his report is attached hereto. Mr. Loff discussed two cases -- one concerned with the illegal division of the market, and the other noting a connection between anti-trust, violations and the private exercise of governmental power.
7. w. H. Smith, Technical r, Sales Representative, Dell Asbestos Mines Ltd., delivered the Fibre Producers' Report (see attached). Mr. Smith stated that crudes and ultra-long spinning fibers continue to bo in short supply but medium and short spinning fibers from Grades 3F to 37. arc in fair supply from most producers. Mo shortage, in these grades is foreseen for the remind ^ of this year and. a change in the situation is not indicated, a. the present tire, for 1974 r
3. Pursuant to calling for Committee Reports by the rcsoeetive Chairmen, President Gcovcroft advised that C. G. Guerin had replaced I. Harnett on the ATI Technical Committee.
9. The followinc reports of ATI activities at the Committee level were presented by the respective Charrnan to the general marl orship. 7. copy of each Report is attached hereto, i. e. :
Pago 3
ATI General Meeting
*/7/73
Air Hygiene & Manufacturing - E. E. Carden, Chairman; Asbestos Advisory - E. U. Russell, Chairman; Technical - J. Vi. Echerd, Chaiman; Fibur Research & Testing - C. Z. Etiofken, Chairman; Environmental Health - L-. F. Dierir.gor, Chairman.
10. It was related by President Ecowcroft that recent technological ercnkthroughs in basic yarn production techniques have, influenced the Institute to seek wider representation in its manbership. It was reported that ns a result, the ATI board of Governors had approved n change in the Constitution and By-Laws of the Institute involving Associate Membership requirements. Article III, Para graph 2(c) of the Constitution has been revised as follows; "those
weavers of asbestos-containing fabrics and. tapes, for resale as such, who do not nanufaotxire the asbestos-containing yarns vised in same, shall be eligible for Associate Membership in this Institute. n
11. President f.covcroft referred to the now identification cards that had been given to each member in attendance, asking that they he returned to the Executive Secretary for use at future rivetings.
12. As stated by President Ccovcroft, there soars to ho seme diffi culty with the postal process in that some reservation cards ere not arriving cat ATI headquarters. In an endeavor to avoid undue problems at future meetings, it was advised that each non! or who makes a reservation with the Executive Secretary would receive a brief acknowledgment within approximately tiin days' tine. If sane does not arrive in due course, it would he well to so advise the Secre tary.
13. The next General Meeting of the: Asbestos be held:
October 3-5, 1973 Uyclrnere Harbor Club, larwicb.port,
Textile Institute Massachusetts
will
Guest Speaker will be Mr. J. Corbett HcPon-ald, Epidemiologist, McGill University, and Medical Advisor to the Ouc^oc Asbestos Min ing Association.
l`. President Hcowcroft .advised that every effort is '"'ing made to oblige the wishes of the non! >ors hip-ot-3 arg;. by scheduling, 1 '-'.onovtr possible, future General Meetings of the Institute so that they and on Fridays, beginning in 1^7-1, future nao ings will be: February 7-0, 197*1, at the Hills Hyatt House, Charleston, touth.
Carolina; June G-7, ln74, at Twin bridges Marriott, `'ashing ton , O.C.; September 2r>-?.7, 197*1, at "hu Cloister, flea Island, Georgia; February G-7, 1975, at Holiday Inn-Independence Hall, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Tentative future meeting sites include ''onto Vtdra Club, Ponte Vudra Poach, Florida, in ''ctohur 1975 and the Marriott in Mow Orleans, Louisiana, in February 197'".
.
15, Icforc introducing the Guest Gpoak-nr, President Gcoveroft re ferred to fivo hooklots that were distributed prior to calling the
Pago 4 -- ATI General fleeting -- 6/7/7 3
meeting to order. Just off the press, the booklets wore publish'd by the AlA/ilA and are entitled: The Asbestos Information Associn-
tion/North America, ^7hat Asbestos Is--How And '..'here It In Used,
Asbestos And Health, Questions and Answers--Asbestos And Health, and Protecting The Asbestos Horker. .tingle copies of the booklets arc available from the AIA/PA, 22 Hast 40th Street, Hew vork, "aw York 1001C [bulk-.rates on request] .
IS. President Gcoucrof t introduced the Guest r.paakcr: Matthew w. Gwetonic, Executive Secretary, Asbestos Information Association/ North America. Mr. Gwetonic ('.'hose profile is. attached) discussed the A.IA/l.'A, its formation, its history and the-.work it is doincr on behalf of the asbestos industry ir. the United f'tatcs. He also talked about the impact of OGI3A and FPA regulations to control the amount of asbestos dust in the atmosphere. He discussed the ques tion: bliy has the Asbestos Industry been singled out by government, the press and various conservative groups? He stated that the industry is passing through a crisis period in the n.G. and that closer ties between trade associations would be; beneficial. Hr. Gwetonic advised that he has been talking with the press about asbestos and health since 1363 and that out of 137-173 reporters, only 2 were over 35. \.'e are dealing with a your.a and idealistic group, he said. From, a survey taken of the 'awareness and attitudes toward the use of asbestos, it '.was discovered that asbestos is relatively unknown to the general public. The situation changes little between urban and rural areas.. It was interesting to note that the survey indicated that those in the 16-25 ago bracket know little about asbestos but that awareness increased in those inter viewed who were between 40 and 43 years of age. A copy of Mr. Gwetonic* s presentation, in its entirety, is attached, to those Minutes.
17. There- being no further business to bo brought before the membership, the meeting '/as adjourned at approx?nntely 3:30 P.M., as per a notion by F,. A. Farrell, seconded by n. a. Morris, and unanimously approved by the attending r-.embers.
respectfullv submitted,
s //'/ :./c* -g>
Doris H. Fagan, <-y b;..-eu hive Geer^ti. ,-y
MOTE: Enclosed herewith is your copy of the Constitution and By Laws of the Asbestos Textile Institute, revised as of Juno 6, 1073. Paragraph 3 of the Fy-baws (page 7) is subject to approval bv the Internal Havenue Gorvicn.
ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE
Report of l-unds as of April 30, 1^7"
Balancc on Hand January 2, 1973 --
General Fund Reserve Fund Potty Cash Tund
Total on Hand . . ,
Receipts
'
To Reserve Fund --
. Interest adjustment to 13/31/73 , Dues for Year 1973
To General Fund -- F.oo'; Pales Insurance Credits
Total Eeccints .
1,394.03
9,00c.on
ion.an
. HI ' 14 ,250.00
115.29 37.00
Disbursements
Rental of Office Space (5 months)
i
Telephone (4 months)
11.J. Employment Tax (4th Otr 197?.)
Federal Income Tax (*Sth Otr 1072)
)
1973)
ra. Unemployment Tax (1st Otr 1073)
Pa. Income Tax (1st otr 1073)
Secretary's Pet wages (4 months)
Insxiranca for Few Office quarters
Postage, Printing, Office Supplier., 'etc.
Revision of Fibre Tort Manual
Legal Services r< Expenses (4th Otr 1972)
Secretary's Travel Expense. (2/72 me:sating)
Petty Cash Vouchers 1-01-1C
Total Disbursements
270.00 135.97
33.75 70.00 15.0 0 162.6?
5.25 12.0 9 503.00
145.00 210.05
26.0?
807.4G 17!5. .1?
d n. 0 5
Miscalculation from last Statement . . . . .
BALANCE 0*T HAND 7-L'EIl. 30, 107 3
funds as of April General Fund Reserve Tund Petty Cash Fund
30,
1073
--
1,462.06 19,0*14.91
7 . * !i
TOTAL AVAILABLE FEEDS
.ssets as of .April 30, 107 3 -- Total Funds as listed above .Accounts Receivable (boo): Sales) Furniture f. Equipment (nominal value)
21,31r.9? p . no 1. TM
07AL .ASSETS
rfPo^C<^ f/7!
OTAL LJM'TTD
Respectfully su.em.it ted-, `>oris '!. Fa.cnn
T.r
V.wjv.t. i:Vi* vui;
0 9,593.83
$ 14,4^2.3.0 0 23,9*04.13
? , on6 . 21 21,399.92 _________7.9 0 21,316.9?.
5 21,316.92 : 23.9:
5 ? 1,3 ? 3.9 ?
FU5R!i FRCDUCEF.G ' REPORT
[Frosented at ATI General Meeting, Juno 7, 1973, at Roy Tridgo Marriott, Arlington, Virginia]
There lias been an increasing demand throughout the world in 1373 for a number of fibre graders, notably in 4 Group and 7 Group. After the fall-off in 1972 in 5 and fi Group fibres, this market has begun to recover, although not to the sane e:ctcnt an the previously-mentioned 4 and 7 Groups.
Of main interest to members of the 7..T.I. are the spinning fibre
Group 3 grades.
Cruder, and ultra-long spinnings continue to In;
in short supply, but the medium and short spinniners in the 3F to
3Z range are in fair supply from most producers. 'Jo shortage is
foreseen in these grades during 1973, although individual produ
cers may be tight in some specific gradings.
There are no indications at present that there vill lie n marked
change during 1974 in spinnings; however, in short fibres, the current oversupply ox GD fibres nay be closer to balance no;:t year.
Gne or two now mines in Canada arc scheduled to cornu into produc tion in 1975, hut there is no likelihood that they will produce any spinning fibres. The same is true of now sources in /Australasia.
''alter il. Fmith Technical f, Hales Representative Fell Asbestos Mines, Ltd.
m i w um7 c
AIH HYGIENE r, MAWITFACTURIWG COMMITTEE
Asbestos Textile Institute Juno 7, 1973 - - .'toy Bridge. Harriott/ Arlington/ Virginia
The Committee mot ,rith sixteen members and guests in attendance, representative of ton companies, as follows:
Amatcx Corporation II. H. Walter, Morristown, ronnsyJ.vnnin
Iisbcrit 3..A. II. Cattanco (Adorno), Rio do Janeiro, Brazil
Cadwalader, Wickershan . Taft E. J. Leff, llcw York City
Canadian Johns-IInnvillc Company Ltd. J. P. Power, .Asbestos, Quebec
Garlock Inc. 3. G. Dixit, Palmyra, Hew York.
Johns-Manvilla Corporation C. G. Guerin, M.anvillo, Mov; Jersey W. R. P.eitco, Denver, Colorado
Lake Asbestos of Quebec Ltd. E. A. Farrell, 'Ten' York City H. L. Lcfobvro, rilnc.k Lake, Quebec
II. 1'. Porter Company, Inc. E. C. Eratt, Charlotte, Worth Carolina L. E. Woody, Charlotte, Worth Carolina
Raybos tor.-,Manhattan, Inc. R. T. Matthew, Worth Charleston, Couth Carolina I. II. Weaver, rlnnhoin, Pennsylvania
Uniroyal, Inc. W. D. Eittincer, Winnnboro, couth Carolin.a P.. E. Carden, tloynnsville, Ccorgia L. F. Dieringor, Middlebury, Connecticut
The Meeting included discussions in the following areas: dust (fiber) counts improvements, special chocking, etc.; and recent experiences witV; OfhlA inspections.
When taking dust counts, one company no" is, using n method, of placing the filter intake valve near the: person's month arid nose
Pago 2 - Minutes of the 7vTI Air Hygiene ft life. Committee - C/7/73
and in some cases will use two units with the second on the employee's shoulder.
Also, it was pointed out, again, that the height of the person being chocked has soma bearing on the dust count. Dust cn fiber samples, when checked by different people, shows a difference or a variation of as much as 5 to 1 and an average of 40% variation, plus or minus, with more variation on higher counts.
Spacing of equipment, using a larger area and using a second unit to recirculate the air has shown some reduction in dust counts. 'Then stripping cards, use hoods placed as low as possible over the area and strip v;ith a brush attached to a vacuum. Dome plants utilize the Aldington system when stripping cards.
One plant reported the use of a light spray (T-D-X) on sixes using roughly 2%, while another plant sprays carrier only with a nirturo of water and ban-set. Doth plants report sena reduction in dust as a result of using the sprays.
In a recent plant inspection hy ODHA, one company received several fines for the following itons:
1) Gome employees with no respirators;
2) Company had not provided protective clothing in
required areas;
'
3) Citations resulting in two .`1700,00 fines for exceeding five (5) iibors in one area and a tiioc-weighted average of over ten (ID) fibers in another area.
In some recent cases the OCHA Agency has reduced dust counts by 25% before actually issuing a citation. Dome plants are using rental uniforms and lockers both furnished by the rental uniform people. Che uniforms, two per employee each week, averages about C2.50 weekly.
In most cases the rental uniform is a short-sleeved shirt and pants only, and this has been acceptable.
Respectfully submitted. Final P. Carden, Chairman
ni hute s
ASBESTOS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Ar.bcr.tos Textile Institute June 7, 1973 -- Hey Bridge Marriott, Arlington, Virginia
IN ATTEITDAUCE:
E. VT. P.UGsell, Chairman T. P. Jackson A. Eu zrnuk M. J. Scanlan II. 0. Scowcroft D. M. Fagan, ATI Executive Secretary E. J. Leff, ATI Legal Counsel
The Eoard of Governors of the Asbestos Textile Institute took action at its September 1973 meeting to change the Institute's Constitution and F.y-Lr.vs. The change permitted weavers of asbestos-containing fabrics and taper., for lusalo as such, who do not manufacture the asbestos yarns used in sane, to be eligible for Associate Membership. In light of this action, the Asbestos Advisory Committee vas requested to determine a method of extending membership.
After considering 'several alternatives, the Committee ac cepted the offer of II. Q. Ecowcroft to prepare a news release for insertion in the July 1P7 3 issue of '.GEFoTCS magazine. The release will state the By-Lav change and will publicly extend membership to those qualified and interested. T. P. Jackson of Johr.s-Manville Corporation will serve as Membership Chairman.
Respectfully submitted,
K. C. Russell, Chairman
M I 1-7 U T E S TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
Tin her; to s Textile Institute *j un e G & 7, 19 73 ------Key Bridge Harriott, Arlington Virginia
I*J ATTENDANCE
J. 17. I'auh.ir.s, Rayhcstos-itar.hn.ttan, Inc.
77. Unackar.t, Anntex Corporation
P. O. Micodemus, General Electric Company/nrCM
C. G. Guerin, Johnn-.Mnnvi7.le Corporation
J. V. Echerd (Chairman), !!.
Porter Company, Inc.
Carl G. Guerin, of Johns-.Manville Corporation, viar, welcomed as n now member of the ATI Technical Committer, replacing Irvin Barnett.
7. special meeting of the Committee was held on June fith to review the .ASTI* Standards for Tarn, Coving, and. Lap. The Commit tee's proposed statements cn precision and. accuracy were approved, by the Editorial Committee of ASTV D-13 as being editorial. However, the statements vrorn rejected hy the /AST *. Standards Editor who spe cified. they must he put to latter ballot after assigning a schedule for inter-laboratory testing. The samples of yarn, roving and lap
will he analysed by riaybeston-.Manhnttnn, Inc., Ar.a.tnx Corporation, General Electric Company, Garlock Inc. and E. I'.. Porter Com.panv, Inc. Testing should be completed prior to the Spring 1974 meeting.
The Johns-Manviile tumbler-test procedure was discussed as a means to determine the relative, dustiness of variou s asbestos products, J. Hawkins '.'ill determine if this oguipnon t is available for .ATI evaluation. The feasibility of building a similar tester also will be considered.
AST" Subcommittee 7)13.14 has keen rcctue stod. by the G. .3. Envy to
change D-315 .Asbestos Tapes to conform. with Er.darn.l Specification '"I-T-17P2 so it nay ho used for direct procurement purposes. Re vision 'would require the addition, of a quality .assurance provision a section on pad.aging ana an obsolete table on tape stylos. The .ATI Technical Conraittee feels that this,, information should not be included in a "Material Epocif ication.'' P. O. Eiaouenus will rcview the objectionable items with .ACT.'! befera replying to the "avy
A dra. t of proposed Military Epee i f i ca Lion .Mil,-1 - 3 0 5 3E -- " I r\sul a tion, Elec trical, Asbestos-E ibor, Treated and Untreated" was submitted for approval. The Chairman 'was instructed, to request an extension for comments until after the October 19 7?. Committee re ing.
'spoctfully submitted.
J. ", Tcherd
Chairman
MINUTE FIBER RESEARCH a testing committee
Juno 7, 1973
Asbestos Textile Institute I'.C'j Bridge Marriott, for line ton, ,7irginin
IN ATTENDANCE: w. C. Ctreilj, Johns-Manville Corporation 'J. H. Smith, Boll Ashastos Mi non Ltd, T>. E. Childers, !I. E. Porter Company. Inc. C. E. Stiefhon (Chairman) , Aneric-n. r:..\ -ilting Refining Co.
The Meeting van totally do voted to discussion's of the progress of the 3rd Edition of the Chrysotilc Asbestos Tost Manual.
It v/as noted that the ACFA (Asbestos Cement Products Association) has hecone defunct and all references to that organization have been renoved from the nev manual.
It v:as decided that for future test deletions, a substitute page would bo inserted into the manual, containing the previous test number with an explanation of the reason fo:: deletion. It would, be indicated that the test could bo obtained, from ATI, if required.
Since ACPA is defunct, the ATI has, for tlu: record, aeroed to sponsor an original ACTA test -- Strength in Asbestos Conent Products, F-3.
Tost G-9, TSN Magnetic Pelting, has ccn npprovedi for saonsorsiiip
by the ATI.
"
It will be hopeful for the membership to submit copy renuirenip.ts to Doris Fagan as soon as possible.
Respectfully submitted, r < - f t:ief'.'.en , Chairman
RFbARKf. OF COU'lf'F.L
"r.hooton Textile Ir.stikuta General tooting June 7, 1073, Arlington, Virginia
At the Fohruarv General Meeting in Atlanta, ronr'^l.l Alcorn presentee to you remarks of counsel dealing with illegal divisions of territory among computing sellers. The cases ho referral to then dealt with explicit agrco.nonts in which tho. r.np was carved un among the selling companies involved on the principle of "one region one company". The decided cases have held such agreements to be unlawful, with a f0%; limited exceptions.
recent case has focused attention on tho division of markets where the agreement cr (an .i.s.. not clearly spe...l.l.e...d.. out. .I.n.. .H..o..b..a..rwt brothers Cci.<p.any v. Malcolm T. Gilliar.d, Inc., <'.71 F.2d OAf (5th Cir. 1273), ".art, d--e--n-ied, I7l U.......F........L......u... 2...C....?....i (..."...a..y 2_,5, 19 73) ,r a.. d___is__t_r_i_.h...utor of welding equipment was assigned by the manufacturer "primary responsibility" for distribution in "ortharn Georgia. The n r.turn 1 commercial instincts of the firr., however, led it to begin s oiling in Tennessee, which was not only outside the northern Georgi territory, but was within an area supplied diroct.lv by the r. annfncturer. Eventually, the distributorship agreement was cancel ],ed hv the manufacturer, and the distributor sued the nanufacturcr, charging an illegal division of territories.
Tho defense emphasised the absence of a written contract prohibit ing the distributor from selling ir. any particular area. There had bean such an agreement years earlier, but counsel had ronod.iod that problem by drafting new contracts assigning "areas of urinary responsibility", which did not on their face limit sales elsewhere.
The courts nevertheless held the arrangement to be illegal. Tho
Fifth Circuit Court cf appeals stated that
silent understanding
can l.-e shewn by tho course of conduct of tho parties." The chief
damaging evidence was an intra-office nemo fro:.; the Tennessee dis
trict representative of tho manufacturer to tho hone office which
reported the distributor's sales in Tennessee, and. urged the manu
facturer to "counter" by selling directly in the distributor's
territory, northern Georgia.
Gnu of tho important teachings of this can 2 is that compliance tho antitrust lav.m - whether tho issue is prices, distribution schemas, refusals to don with certain companies, or any other sensitive trade regulation natter - is r.ot achieved by no.roIv avoiding the obvious, spelled out forms of transgression. Tar m.uvt !.*a taken not to lessen competition indirectly or through
unaxprasscl understandings as well.
if h
having mv.ntior.od. violations of the law threuqh mere devious means, which scums to no appropriate at this gathering, so close to the batergate building, I would like, to note another connection be tween antitrust law and politics.
Pag.2 2 Minuter; of the A" I environmental I-anlth f'or.nittfto - ft/7/7.'
morbidity data./ no nev* reported adverse comments and. initia tion of nev; studies not available for a number of years, the subcommittee on asbestos stated, "It is therefore racorxvjnded that no changes he made at the present tine, hut that the standard he kept tinder rovj.r>'.r."
3) Pages S-17, Eiologioal r.f^octs of Cancer - Pcport of the Advisory Committee on Asbestos Cancers to the Director of the International Agency for Research on Cancer - P.eport divided into tt'o parts, the first a queistion-and-ansver section devoted to the latest thinking on the relation of asbestos exposure and cancer, and the second to recommendations for future research ir. epidemiology, pntholoyv and physics and chemistry of asbestos-related cancer.
P.ospcctfully submitted,
TJ I * V' Pierincar, Chairman
M I !T U EEVIHOWMENWAL i:ealti! COMMITTEE
Juno 7, 1973
Aslicr-ton Textile Institute Ley Bridge Marriott, Arlington, Virginia
fit formal meeting of the Committee '.*nr. held, and the throe members sat in ori the discussions of the /Mr Hygiene u Manufacturing Committee.
.-.s of moating tine, the: following it; the stntxis of various pro posed Oil'll occupational health standards *b.ich are of interest to member conpanias:
1) Boise -- A Department of Labor standards Advisory Commit tee is meeting periodically to consider this standard. At its mooting in Boston on May 21, 1973, the Anarican Confer ence of Governmental Hygienists (AGGIE) recommended tho adoption of a notice of intent to change tho Boise Threshold Limit Values to CD dBA for an 2-hour-n-dny, tine-weighted exposure. .At the CGJIA Ctardards Advisory Committee meeting in Washington, D.C., on .'Jay 32, 1973, Dr. V. P. Midyard, " Copmittao Chairman, stated that tho level of exposure to
noise for employees mil! pro'.ahly remain at 90 dr?..
2) Boat C.tress - A.CGIJI also recommended at its Boston meeting tho adoption of the heat Gtross Threshold Limit Values which wore published as a notice of intent in 1972. It differs slightly from those recommended by MOD;: in its criteria package in that permissible work-rest regimens are specified. The status of the proposed standards is clouded by recent criticism that the TTJGT index, is not an adequate indicator of heat stress. Proposals have bean nnd^ that swe-nt rates and heart rates arc: more indicative of heat stress.
Accent articles of interest from the Annuals of Occupational Hy giene, Volume It', 1973, house organ for tho Eritish Occupational hygiene- Society, are:
1) Pages 1-5, hygiene ntandards for Airborne Amosito Asbes tos Lust - "The subcommittee (on rmbrntos) has reviewed the information on human exposure to airborne Amosite dust and animal experiment*;. The subconm.itt. : 'xrliavts it has insuf ficient knowledge o': tho r< latior.n'iip ! fv-cn rtirform: hT.osito clusi; exposure and the risk, of e.sv>ostosis to permit an. accurate' statement of the degree of protection afforded )-y -a specified hygiene standard. buv-rtholoss, on the basis of comparisons !;ttv,f'on th:: affects of Amosito and Chrysotilr dust cm men and animals, it is recommended that the standards cn Ar.osita should It: no less .stringent than those for dbr'/sotila."
2) rage. 7, ht.-view of the 'ygiene Ctandard ror Chrysoti 1-: Asbestos Dust - based c-n information of Ou-.-bno rvi ts' i :-y and
Pago: 2 - !cinar!:rj of Counsel
General booting - 6/7/7 3
Trade associations a vail as other commercial nrnuos cr.r run afoul of the lav? by assuming paver in their private nativities which pro perly belongs to the government.
The early price-fining cases reflect the vie** that private parties should net bo permitted to rsnnlate sc sensitive: a feature of the economy as prices. Similarly, any joint action which excludes certain companies from important commercial benefits is viewed by the courts as the imposition of a punishment - which is a power reserved to the courts.
In Fashion Originators1 Guild, Inc, v. rcdornl "rado Commission, 312 U. f. 457 (134D/ for example/ a combination of manufacturers of women' s garm.cnts and manufacturers of textiles tried to prevent the copying of their fashionable clothes by sc-caliod "style pirates". The fashionable clothes group refused to sell their products to manufacturers or retailers of garments who dealt with the competing "style pirates". The Supreme Court rejected the defense that sue!: a practice was justified by the necessity of ridding the business of unscrupulous garment designers. The Court said:
*'. . . the combination is in reality an extra-governmental agency, which prescribes rules for the regulation and re straint of interstate commerce/ and provides extra judicial tribunals for determination and punishment of violations, and thus 'trendies upon the pov/or of the national legislature and violates the statute' [i.c., the Sherman Act]." 312 T'.f. at 4C5.
So long as private companies retain their however, and r'`.strict their joint effort.:; which reasonably serve that individuality antitrust difficultios.
competitive individuality, to constructive objectives
thorn is little danger of
pugane 1. 7,off, Attorney CADT,?JJ\DFP., t'lc.drr.r.i'.v-i * taft
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
The names Matthew M. Swetonic and Asbestos Infor mation Associaticn/North America are synonymous. It was Matt who developed the original AIA/NA Prospectus in the Fall of 1970 and who prepared the presentations for both the introductory and the organization meetings.
Upon J-M's decision to move its corporate head
quarters to Denver and Matt's electing not to
make the move, he was employed as AIA/NA's first
full-time Executive Secretary. For the first
three months of 1972 he handled two jobs: Manager
of Environmental Affairs for J-M and Executive
Secretary for AIA/NA.
During this time he orga
nized the industry effort for the EPA and OSHA
hearings and wrote for others or presented
himself six major presentations in a period of 45
days, a record which he states he hopes he "will
be never asked to break."
-
Matt is 30 years of age and is married.
He is a
native New Yorker, was reared in Easton, Penna.,
and now resides in Manhattan. He holds a B.A. in
Creative Writing and an M.S. in Journalism.
Following a tenure as Feature Writer for The Eas
ton Express, he joined J-M in July 1965 as
Associate Editor of News/Pic, an employee maga
zine.
He was promoted to Editor in January 1967
and one year later was named Coordinator, Special
Projects.
This is the job that granted him the
expertise to superbly fulfil his duties as Ext cu~
tive Secretary of the AIA/NA as the major respon
sibilities included writing J-M asbestos-health
position papers, preparing speeches on asbestos-
health for top J-M executives, working with J-M
public relations counsel and learning asbestos-
health literature backwards and forwards.
WHY ASBESTOS ?
A Presentation Before the Asbestos Textile Institute Arlington, Virginia - June 7, 1973
Ey: Matthew M. Swetonic, Executive Secretary 7vsbestos Infcmation Association/llorth America
I am sure that many of you have asked yourselves, as I have asked myself, why has the asbestos industry seemingly been singled cut as the prime target for so many assaults by government, labor, the press, certain segments of the medical profession, and by various environmental and consumer activist groups?
VThy us? Can asbestos really be all that bad? Are the products we produce truly going to kill millions of Americans, as some experts have predicted? Or is there some sort of nefarious conspiracy afoot to destroy the asbestos industry?
The answer to the question of "TJhy us" Complex because it is a combination of separata factors. Simple because each considered by itself, quite obvious.
is both complex and simple. three interrelated but of the factors is, when
The three factors are (1) asbestos can cause disease, (2) a spokes man arose to champion the need for asbestos control, and (3) a cornucopia of new government agencies were set up to control materials and products that can cause disease. Let us lock at
each of these factors in turn.
First, there is no doubt that the inhalation of substantial amounts of asbestos can lead to increased rates of various types of lung disease, including two forms of cancer. These are facts which can not be denied, even if they do not apply in ail circumstances and under all conditions. The medical literature is full of solid evi dence linking asbestos to disease. In ny office, I have on file more than 2,000 medical papers dealing with the health risks or asbestos and hundreds more are published every year.
Secondly, the spreading of concern over the health risks of asbes tos has as its prime spokesman one of the most talented medical publicists of the ago -- Dr. Irving J. Sclikoff of i!ow York's .".nu t Sinai Hospital. Uct cnly is Dr. Selikoff capable of arousing the ire and moral indignation of the most conservative reporter or politician v;ith his graphic descriptions and predictions of the ravages of asbestos, but he has also surrounded himself with a group of similarly talented associates vrho have carried the .Mount Sinai message to the far corners of the nation.
b'nilc Dr. Solikoff has, in his zeal, unquestionably painted a far darker picture than the facts warrant, we should nb'nys remember in his defense, that the insulation werhorR ho hnr, *-<<- ->n studying f.-'-
Pago 2 - Why Asbestos?', by I!. !i. Swetonic, AIA/WA Presented to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia - 6/7/73
more than a decade \7orc and still are dying from asbestos related disease at an appalling rate. Such a situation would be sufficier. to make a crusader our of the most conservative of scientists.
Finally, in the past decade there lias teen a trener.dous growth in public and governmental interest in environmental and occupational health matters. This interest has been translated into a scries of far-reaching laws affecting industry in a manner hitherto unknown in this or any other country. I believe it is accurate tc say that these new lavs, such as the Occupational Safety and Heal 7iCt, the Clean Air Act, the Consumer Product Safety Act, and other have forever altered the concept of the free enterprise system as was known in this country for a hundred and fifty years.
Thus, in combination, these three factors created a situation in v/hich a cadre of freshly created federal agencies, with strong statutory authority, were prodded into assigning priority status t asbestos by Dr. Selikoff and his followers, who achieved these cr.c through skillful use of the great wealth of negative ashestes-heal data contained in the medical literature.
In short, the asbestos industry was singled out because it mcs vulnerable to attack, because there was someone willing to lend th attach, and because Congress had graciously provided the vehicles for such an assault.
The background of industry efforts to deal with the asbnstcs-hcalt problem as a national issue goes back nearly a decade, to Dr. Selikoff1 s r.ow famous 1964 seminar on asbestos disease at the New York Academy of Sciences. \Thilc this seminar did much to prick th industry's conscience about asbestos and health, the problem still remained one of limited public and press interest until around ID67, when the media began beating the medical bushes searching fc stories that v;ou!d graphically portray American industry's suppose disregard for the environment and for' the health and safety of its workmen and the /imerican public. The asbestos-health problem was found to be tailor-made for such stories. As a result, starting with Paul Drodeur's infamous Mov; Yorker article of -'.arc!: 1965, asbestos has since grown into an item of major press interact.
In those years, industry efforts to combat the spate of negative press articles on asbestos were carried on primarily by the JohnsIbnvillo Corporation, which set up a task force of specialists in various fields to do vrhat it could to portray the problem in its proper perspective. While some minor successes were achieved, it was found that no one comnany acting independently could aueguatai or effectively represent an entire industry in dealing with the press and v/ith government officials.
As a result, in late 1970, eight companies gathered in Now York Ci to launch the Asbestos Information 7ir.sociat.ion of North America,
Page 3 - Why Asbestos?1, by H. M. Swctonic, AIA/IIA Presented to the ATI at Islington, Virginia - 6/7/73
which was patterned after the British /vsbestos Information Commit tee, which had been established some three years earlier.
In our original concept, the Association would limit its activitie to providing accurate, unbiased information on asbestos and health to the press, to the public and to interested politicians and othc government officials. It must be remembered that at this particu lar time, the enormous problems that would later develop v.'ith regard to OSHA and other Federal regulatory agencies were as yet c the distant horizon and basically unrecognized by the industry.
Fortunately -- and properly -- the Association has had the wisdom to alter its original limited concept of its proper functions, and novj endeavors to assume whatever activities and responsibilities i deems necessary to protect the interests of the asbestos manufac turing industry in the United States vis-a-vis asbestos-health.
From this rather narrow initial public relations concept, the Association has grovm in the last two years into an organization with priorities in eight major fields of endeavor. These are: Ileaical Affairs, Legal Affairs, Environmental Control, Customer Relations, Employee Relations, Inter-industry Relations, Publicity and Public Relations, ana Government Affairs.
To take these activities one at a tine, let us start with medical
affairs.
.
It is an obvious fact that if an organization is to speak authori
tatively on a medical matter, it must not only be steeped in the
literature of that particular medical subject, but it nust also
keep itself constantly informed of new discoveries and development
This we have accomplished in a number of ways. For example, by
sending representatives to important medical meetings, such as the
1972 Lyon, France, international conference on the biological
effects of asbestos, which was sponsored by the T'cr!d Health Organ
zaticn.
-.
V7e also meet on an irregular basis v.'ith various nodical experts in the field, both fron the United States .and abroad, to review and
discuss recent developments and discoveries.
Our literature research is eased considerably by receiving the monthly nodical paper distribution of the Institute of Occupations and Environmental Ilealth in Montreal, which is funtied by the Qucoz Asbestos Minino Association.
This year, for the first time, the AIA has elected to sponsor nodical research of its own. Currently underway is a completely AIA/21/v funded study of chest sounds, which is being conducted by Dr. Raymond Murphy of the harvard School of Public Health. The purpose of the study is to find a new method of determining ar. individual's potential susoeptibility to asbestos disease.
rage 4 - Why Asbestos?, by M. M. Swctonic, AIA/NA rrcsented to the 7iTI at Arlington, Virginia - 6/7/73
The Association has also recently decided to contribute to sene vr--
oxciting research into a possible core for mesothelioma through
.'lectrczotive treatment.
This study is being conducted at Somerset
Hospital in Hew Jersey.
In the legal affairs area, the Association participated in an amicus curiae capacity in the lav; suit breught by the Industrial Union Department of the AFL/CIO against the Occmpafional Safety ar.i Health .Administration on the asbestos standards. In our brief the ^Association supported OS3IA against the IUD, somewhat of a unique position for an industry to find itself in vis-a-vis a governmental regulatory agency. Oral argument on che case was held April 4 in Washington. iThile a decision has yet to be handed down by the Court of Appeals, v/e are confident that the case will be decided in our favor.
The Association has retained the services of a special technical consultant on environmental control affairs. At the present time, he is working with thw AI/i/HA Environmental Control Sub-Committee cn the development of a series of five Association compliance manuals on the OSHA standards.
Last year, because of the well established unreliability of the membrane filter method, as a monitoring tool in the asbestos industry, the A17. undertook the sponsorship of a study at a research laboratory in California to determine the effect of ccrtrtr. variables on the overall accuracy of the method. The results of the study shov/ed an error factor cf plus or minus 50 per cent under the most favorable of measuring conditions. These results were szr.r to both OSHA and to the national Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. 7* number of the recommendations contained in the stuzy for improving the accuracy of the method have been incorporated ir.zo a scon-to-be-released revised IJICSII operations manual on fiber
counting.
In the customer relations area, the total effect of negative pres-
publicity and government regulations on industry customers is still
today rather poorly defined.
Seme nambors of the 7vssoc int ic:i hz\
reported serious problems in this area, '.Agile others have
experienced few or no difficulties thus far.
Whore customer problems do exist, they normally fall into one cf
five categories.
-
First, the customer has thoroughly investigated his situation ant has found that ho can no longer afford to continue vising asbestos or asbestos-containing products, cither because the cost of control is too high or because ho would have to raise the price cf his product to a level that would make it non-competitive with non-asbestos containing substitutes.
Second, tho customer has not thoroughly investigated his situaticr and only thinks that lie can no longer afford to continue using
asbestos.
Page 5 - 17hy Asbestos?4, by !1. II. r?v;etonic, AIA/NA Presented to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia. - 6/7/73
Third, the customer has reed one or more negative articles on asbestos in the public press and has made the snap decision that "v/c ought to get that dangerous stuff out of our plant." Often, decisions of this nature are forced on top mnn.go.m.cnt by illinformed nodical advisors or safety and ho.alth director.-.
Fourth, the customer has neither a control problem nor is he parti cularly .afraid of using asbestos in his own plant. I!o'-aver, he is fearful that those of his competitors >hosr. finished products do art contain asbestos will stress the adverse health effects of asbestos in trying to take business away from him. Customer fears cf this nature are essentially "gut" reactions and are hence extremely difficult to deal v/ith.
Fifth, the customer has none of .these problems or fears but he has been advised by a government official or inspector that he would be better off if he quit using asbestos or asbestos-containing products in his plant. labile this problem does not appear to bo widespread, wo have learned of a number of situations vhcrc it has occurred. Acticns of this nature by government officials are totally uncalled for and should be dealt with promptly and decisively. The best solution is to obtain complete details on the incident and then to register a formal complaint v;ish the offending official's immediate superior or with the government agency involved.
The .Association's first reaction to the overall customer relations problem was to approve funds for a scries of. four regional seminars at uhich industry customers would be given a number of basic presen tations on the various aspects of the asbestos-health problem. The seminars were tentatively scheduled for the Spring of 1973.
however, the experiences of a number cf our member companies shewad that general "catchall" type seminars of the type originally contemplated would not be effective in dealing with the majority ci customer relations problems. In order to do the job properly, it was found that customer presentations have to be tailored to the needs and problems of the individual customer.
As a result, the Association cancelled its scheduled series of seminars and instead elected to develop a number of packaged s lies presentations <^n such topics as "The Facts About Asbestos and health," and "Understanding the 053IIA Regulations," uhich could be used by member companies as part of a tailored presentation to individual customers.
As with customer relations, the /association feels that employee relations is a pr fold*, best handled by the individual menber eonpanias. Thus far, the AIA's sole contribution in this area of industry concern has been tc prepare thi draft of an Employo rafery and Health Guide on Asbestos-Health. The draft was made available to the member comoanies for their own use and at least one has produced it in booklet forn for distribution to nil its employees.
Pago 6 - Why Asbestos?*', by M. II. Swetonic, AI7v/tIA Presented tc the 7iTI at Burlington, Virginia - 6/7/73
I personally believe that the employee relations aspect of the asbestos-health problem is one that has been sorely neglected by most companies within the industry, and that it could develop intc a major problem area in the near future ar.d that stops should bo
taken now to deal with it. V'e know that various organized labor groups are planning a full scale campaign to bring their interpre tation cf the asbestos-health problem to the attention of asbestos industry employees throughout the nation. If the industry permits this interpretation tc bo disseminated without rebuttal, the consequences could be grave indeed.
Inter-industry relations arc best defined as keeping the industry
informed about important new developments on the governmental,
medical and press relations fronts that affect asbestos. This is
accomplished within the AI7. by periodic distributions of documents
and information to the member companies and to others on our
mailing list.
The value of this activity can be gauged by the fact that our overall mailing list increased from approximately a dozen names in 1971 to more than 60 a year later. !!hile we have had to trim the list semewhat this year for logistical reasons, we assume from the frequent requests we still receive to be placed or. the list that the material we send out is being read and is of considerable value to those receiving it.
Next to government affairs, our public relations and publicity activities constitute the single largest consumer of time, effort and money within the Association. Those cf ycu v/ho are familiar v'ith the treatment that asbestos has been receiving in the public press over the years can readily understand why this activity ranks so high on our priority list.
XTnat you may not understand are the reasons why c.ur extensive efforts in dealing 'with the nation's press have been so unsuccess ful to date in producing the theoretical "balanced" or "positive" storv on asbestos and health.
The simple fact is that from the standpoint cf today's young activist reporter, industry is the bad guy, and nothing wo do, sav or achieve can ever change this impression. If wo spend C>10C mil loii dollars on environmental control, the press either rays we. oughw to have done it ten years ago or that we should have spent 5200 million. If wo sponsor medical research, they say vo are trying to buy favorable results. If we are opposed ti* rid:culously stringent standards, they say wc are in fav<"r of letting our employees die.
A television executive in Minneapolis described this new hre ::d of reporter as being "so intent on donclis::iny the establishment that they would blindly destroy the credibility cc the media in the bar gain." Another TV executive, this time in Chicago, stated "they
i
Page 7 - Why Asbestos?, by M. fl. Swetnnic, AIA/NA : Presented to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia - 6/7/73
want to make moral and political and social judgments on their assignments and then take sides. Never mind getting the facts straight."
As a result of this "industry is a monster" philosophy, asbestos will remain a hot news item only so long as the nev;s is bad. The "good" that asbestos does in protecting lives and property is of no concern to the press. Likewise, industry efforts to protect workmen and the general public from asbestos exposure will always be given minimal coverage, since such information is directly contrary to the portrait of an irresponsible industry producing a "killer" product that is the sole element of news worthiness in the asbestos story.
The press relations battle will therefore he won, not when the media starts to print positive or balanced articles about asbestos, but when the press ceases to print anything about asbestos at all. As long as negative news on asbestos-health continues to be generated, the media will continue to eat it up. The media will only cease to carry such stories when the generation of negative news ceases. It is as simple as that. Positive or balanced stories are a chimera, since they are, by definition, not newsworthy.
Let me give you a very specific example of this last principle ir. action. As most of you already knew, the /association is currently engaged in an extensive campaign to interest the trade press in articles on the benefits of asbestos and on industry accomplish ments in the environmental control area. The trade press, unlike the national or public media, is much more receptive to articles of this nature and we expect to be seeing a number of positive stories in the trade press in the next few months.
In any case, we also from tine to time put out press releases on various subjects relating to asbestos-health. A few weeks ago, issued a release on the report of the advisory committee on asbestos cancers of the Uorld Health Organization. In brief, the report concluded that the general public is not in danger from asbestos in the environment. Thus far, we have received nearly two dozen press clippings fren trade publications that carried the story. To the best of our knowledge, not a single newspaper, nows magazine, r; lio or TV station, or any other segment of the public media ran the story, with the solitary exception of a French language paper in Toronto. As I said before, if the news is good, the press simply isn't, interested.
Nonetheless, the Association has no intention of abandoning our efforts vis-a-vis the national media. We will continue to issue appropriate press releases, cooperate \>?ith feature writers doing stories on asbestos, write letters to the editor when those stories appear, and in short, do all wo can to present the press with a balanced view of the asbestos-health situation.
Page 0 - Why Asbestos?1, by fl. !1. Swetonic, AIA/I7A Presented to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia - 6/7/73
Our most recent effort in this regard has been the preparation ar.i printing of an Asbestos and Health Information rile, which ve have nailed to sene 3,000 newspapers, magazines, trade publications, radio and TV stations, science writers, etc., across the United States.
Basically, the file contains copies of five industry position papers on asbestos and asbestos-health, as well as a nunber of inportant medical papers and a pair of photographs illustrating the benefits of asbestos and industry efforts at environmental control. While we don't expect our information file to change the whole attitude of the press toward asbestos, wo are hoping that the media will nake use of it to accurately report the industry's position when doing stories on the subject.
And now, having heard the bad side of the public relations problem,
it's time for some good news.
.
.
And the good news is that despite all the negative articles on asbestos-health that have appeared in the press over the past half dozen years, very few people have been paying attention. Let me exnlain.
In February, the Association undertook a personal interview; research survey of the American public to determine its attitude toward asbestos and its avrareness of -the health issue. The survey i/as conducted by the Opinion Research Corporation during Harch r.r.i April. Coro than 2,000 demegrnphic.ally selected Americans v;ere interviewed.
Without going into enormous detail, the results shew that only 22 per cent of the ijr.cricnn public are av;nre of the health hazards of asbestos, and that 80 per cent of these consider it a hazard only to those who are occupationally exposed. A mere- three per cent of those interviewed stated that they considered asbestos a health hazard to the general public, and less than one quarter of one per cunt considered it the most dangerous material on the list they were given to choose from. Surprisingly, the college age ycuths of America are no more aware of the hazards of asbestos than their
parents and grandparents.
These results should ie reassuring to those industry customers whs fear that the general public will stop buying their products because they contain asbestos.
Before going on to describe our activities in the government
relations area, I think it night be interesting at this point to
take a very brief look at the manner in which Dr. Sclikoff and his
supporters have used his research results tc. dramatize and exaggerate the seriousness of the asbestos-health problem,
I have
two charts which point this >ut rnrhor conclusively.
Page 9 - TTiy Asbestos?, by M. I!. Gvetor.ic, r.IA/n.h Presented%to the ATI at Axlir.gton, 'Virginia - 4/7/73
The first chart -shown the actual results of Dr. Gclikcff's four mortality studios cf asbestos 'orders. The numbers in parentheses beside the figures fer total number of workers indicate those who have so far died from nil causes. The percentage figures alcngsid the total number of deaths from asbestosis, lung cancer and mesothelioma are based on the total nunher of deaths from all causes, not on the number of workers in the study.
The most inportnnt study of the "rgroup is the second free the top, shoving the deaths from a.5bostcs-rola.tcd c'inoa.se among all members of the insulation workers union, regardless of length of exposure. You will note that 34 per cant of those workers who have died thus far have died from one of thr throe asbcstos-related diseases.
These, then, are the facts Or. Gc-likoff works free. This is what he knows from his ovm investigations. dev let us take a leek at what he has done with those figures in order to dramatize the n rob 1 era.
Chart number II shows Dr. Golikoff's predictions.about asbestosrelated deaths in the United Gtates. Without going into details, Dr. Gelikoff has arrived at his projections by the simple proccdur of multiplying the percentage of deaths fre:.i ashestcs-related disease among his insulation workers by the total number cf employees in the entire industry.
You will also note that he has raised his projected death estimate
to enormous heights over the past year by simply increasing the
base figure of anployeos exposed:, "hile still retaining the
percentage multiplier of 24 pax cent being experienced by the
insulation workers.
I night point out that this tactic, howev-ar deceptive, has been
Gelikoff correspondingly greater coverage '-y the media. ye finer example exists of the total gullibility of the press than the manner in which it allowed, its prejudices to bo manipulated and played upon in this situation.
Please don't get me wrong. I have no d.o\:bt that the insulation
workers ara ir. fact dyi.nc; as rapidly a?; Dr. d.">iij;o;Tf says they nr.
The problem is that ho lias tr; 'slated their mortality experience to the rest of the entire industry, which is ccmoletnly orroncou-.
In the first pla.ee, the estimated number of employees in the industry is too high -- five times too high to bo precise. Ever, mere important, according to an analysis b*' thhee As see a.at:, on cf more than r. dozen mortality studies, including these of Dr. Geli koff, cur prediction is that approximately 25,007 past and. prssxrx employees in the asbestos industry have; died or -'ill eventually dia of a s l.>-a s tos-- ro 1 a t od -.1 i.sense . '..'hi.s is ]--ss than ino- t >' r tofwvt -
Page 10 r tThv Asbestos?, by f`. !!. Fwotonic, *-IA/!!A Presented. to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia - fi/7/73 --
of Dr. felikcff Vs most recent orjtinatc. In addition, nv.r ficurcs show that 20 r.f the 25,000 deaths -- or G0 -- v?ill occur arena
those in the insulation trades.
T'Jhilc these estimates should, he reassuring te those in the mining and manufacturing areas of the industry, wo should not ferget that 5,000 of our workmen arc still going to die of asbestos-related disease and that, all things considered, there is absolutely nothing that wo can do to prevent it. The only thing "e car. do is to clean up rur plants to assure that those entering the industry in the future will not have the same exoerience.
Uithin the past year and a half, the nain thrust cf Association effort has shifted to the government affairs front. The principal agencies in Hashing ton with which wc have .been dealing are the Occupational Safety and Health Administration; tho- Environmental Protection Agency; the Food and Drug Administration; the bureau r.f 'lines; nndi, to a lesser degree, the national Institute of Occupational Safety and Health, and the National Institutes of Health, both of which are mainly involved in research efforts.
In addition, a fev weeks ago we were contacted by the Federal Trade Commission, which had received a petition farm the Center for Science in the Public Interest requesting an investigation of consumer uses of asbestos dor the purpose of determining '/bother certain products ought to 1 c: lar-olcd as hazardous and whether warnings should he required on all advertisements for those pro ducts. On the basis of a preliminary meeting with an investigater from the FTC it would appear that we have, little to worry about in tills particular .area.
The Occupational Cnfcty and Health Adm.inistraties has ''can of enormous concern to the. industry over the past 15 months. As nest of you already knew, the Association expended trerendous efforts during the six ncr.th period leading to the promulgation of last June's OJIIA standards on asbestos. I think it is a gauge of tha cffectivonc-ss cf tha total industry involvement in this most crucial ratter that of ol-avor. main renuironants in the standards, the industry position was accepted, totally 'ey OS FA. on nine of the eleven, about fifty per cent on a tenth, and totally rejected on only one.
OSIIA is now planning to redo the stand, ird nrckaqe and wo are work-- ing closely with then, on this project, The first step ''ill ho the formation of a 13 nan advisory crmcnitt :s to review the current standards and any additional nodical a id technical data that has become available in the year since the standards wore promulgated.
Forking in cooperation with nino other trade associations we havo sclc-cted four individuals as indue try-wide recommendations to OCi'A for tiie four so-called, "employer" spots on the advisory committee.
Pngs 11 -- 77hy Asbestos?, by j;. r. ?wetr:nic, AIA/UA j Presented to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia - 6/7/73'
In discussing the formation of the advisory committee with John O'lTeill of the 05 HA Standards Dcvclnpnunt Section, we wern ashed to add a couple of names to the list sc that OSIIA would have more of a selection to choose fron. Thir. we havo agreed to do.
The ermnittHO will be given up to nine months to complete its deliberations aid prepare for C3!!A a revised standard package. This \;ill be followed by public hearings, approximately n year from novr. Ve do not c::pect tr see a ne\; standard promulgated before the Fall of 1974.
It is of course impossible to determine at this tire what the now standards will look, like, however, I would venture to say that they will certainly net he less strict than the ones w-2 have today, although they will probably be less confusing and leave less rocn for employer interpretation. .Something will unques tionably be done to improve the current difficulties with the monitoring requirements.
The main function cf the national Institute for Occupational Safer and Health is to conduct research and. to prepare so-called. Criteri Packages, 'which are essentially recommendations to OS HA for stan dards on various materials, chemicals and activities. Such a package on asbestos was prepared by '!IO?II at the tine of the 053 HA proceedings last year. niCP7: will not br-. preparing a new or rovis criteria package for the upcoming review of the ashestes standards
I do net believe it would be unfair tc say that r'f all the agen cies in Washington dealing with asbestos, I>r. Oeliknff has had his greatest influence on the young idealistic scientists and doctors at .IICSII. Consequently, industry influence is weakest in this agency. It was HI05H, after all"*, that made the original recommen dation for a two fiber standard in the United States asbestos industry.
Ucxt to OPI'A, the Environmental Protection Agency lias the greatest potential cf any federal agency for adversely affecting the future of the asbestos industry ir. this country. hot only is the EPA responsible for developing, and enforcing air and. water pollution standards, but the T'-xic Substances Control Act, new pending in Congress, will also bacons an F.PA function after passage.
For this reason, I an pleased to be able to say that the asbn industry has an excellent relationship with tho ETA. -h* fine, proof of this exists than the fact that there was not a singl major industry recommendation made to the EPA at the public h ingr. on the proposed asbestos emission regulations that was n accepted either in toto or in principle in the final standard which were published in early April of this year.
are presently working with the EEA on the development of waste viator ffluor.t standards for asbestos nanuf actnr i m; plants. t -V
Pane 12 - XHiy /ishestos? j by M. M. r>votonic, .`'.IA/HA Presented to the ATI at .Arlington, Virginia - f/1/13
certainly hope that these standards will turn out to he as reason able as the air pollution regulations. Che proposed effluent standards are scheduled to be published in the Tsderal Register sometime this Sumner, to be followed by public hearings, with the final standards being promulgated in the Fall, perhaps as early as October.
Ids are also planning, in the near future, to meet in Washington with representatives from the standards development and enforccrren branches, of the F.r.A to discuss with them, questions of interprotati and compliance policy v;ith regard to the new air pollution regulations.
Ue have already resolved one interpretation question that is of special interest to the asbestos textile industry. Approximately two weeks ago I va3 ashed, by a member company of the Association
to find out whether the FPL was planning to require the manufac turers of asbestos safety clothing to register as potential emission sources under the lav.
In discussing the situation over the phone with F?A compliance officials, I argued that the producers of asbestos safety clothing were not manufacturers as defined in the regulations but were insc only fabricators of an asbestos product, aril as such, should not have to register as potential emission sources.
jhftcr our phone conversation ended, a brief nccting was held among the FPA compliance people. I v;ns then called, bacl: ar.d. informed that they agreed with me that the safety clothing producers should not be required to register.
T'hile this rather minor problem too): half and two or throe phone calls tc the type of day-to-day services that its member cennnnies.
approximately an heur and a resolve, it is indicative of the Association provides for
Over the past year the Food and I.'rug rdministration has shown an increased interest in asbestos as a possible hazardous contaminr.n in various foods, beverages and drugs. Lata in 1H72 they set up a asbestos task force to review the situcati^r. and to propose regula tions and guidelines '..'here appropriate.
Thus far they have concentrated their efforts in two areas
-- on the use nf asbestos-contaminated talc in food packaging and in cosmetics, and sc-crnd.ly, on the use of asbestos oaluloso filter
pads in the beverage and drug industries.
In our first mooting with the FDA task force last. `J.-vemher on the filter problem, they demonstrated and admitted to an appalling ignorance about the health, hazards of asbestos. Tinea than, they havo gotten one hock, of a lot smarter, due at least in part tc the tremendous amount of data -~nd. information '.'hie1' the
Page 13 -- YThy Asbestos?, hv H. u. 5wotonic, A.IA/UA rrcscntcJ to the ATI at Arlington, Virginia - 6/7/73
has been supplying to then. As a consequence, the FDA is today less panicky about asbestos and therefore less likely to propose foolish, unsupportable regulations. Fpoknsmen from the FDA. have, in fact, defended the filter industry against environmentalist attacks in the press and clscvjhere in recent months. This is, quite obviously, a healthy sign.
Our activities in the area of Congressional relations have been quite minimal to date, although wc arc preparing for the upcoming struggle in Congress over workmen's compensation reform, at which time asbestos is unquestionably going tc be racked over the coals by Dr. Calikoff and by representatives of organized labor.
Unfortunately, the Association has neither the manpower nor the time to embark on a full-scale legislative information program. We have met on occasion with the legislative and legal assistants to various Senators v/ho have attacked asbestos, however much more needs to be done in this area and I am afraid individual member companies are going to have to be the prime ball carriers and r.ot the Association.
For essentially the same reason, our government activities at the state and local level have declined to essentially zero over the past year and. a half. This has not been too serious a deficiency as most of the authority of the cities and states in asbestos con trol has been usurped by various Federal regulatory agencies, nonetheless, more individual company activity is required at these levels of government.
In conclusion, I think ve can all be justifiably pleased wi th whet, we have been able to accomplish in the past few years in resolving the cornucopia of interrelated problems that constitute the asbestos-health situation.
Our plants are cleaner and our workmen better protected. The gene ral public has been shown to be in no danger from asbestos, if it ever v/cs. While we have been regulated extensively, fer the most part the standards that have been developed have net been as bad as we feared they might be, and in some cases they turned out far bet ter than we ever dared hope. In addition, v/hile we are still tak ' n cur lumps in the public press, the not of fact of all this adverse publicity has been shown to bo surprisingly small.
We have sweated a lot ar.d \n\ have groaned a lot, hut ve are still standing and we are still vioblc. I sense today within the indus try a greater feeling of confidence in the future than at any time in the past few years. but v?e nust not rest contented.
We must remember that Dr. Celikoff has to date been far less suc cessful than our industry has in influencing the decisions of the various governmental regulatory agencies. This will r.ol'.c 'aim try
"DEC. 4.1997 12:05PM WILENTZ GOLDMAN SPZR
000112
NO. 486/ //P. 2J .
/)S0.STCS 7z*T/
XMZTi TLTS.
X 4m sure that xany cf you have ashed yourselves,
4S I h*v asked ayseif, why >.45 the asbestos industry tritely
ban singled out as 0.4 prime target isr so many easults by
government, leboz, :.H press, certai.i segments of the medical
profession. and ay various w.-v/ircr..T,e.'.ssi and consumer activist
groups?
Why us? Can ashestc s really be ell that had? Are ,
eh* products wa produce -truly going to kill (tilliar.$ of Americans,
as sere experts have predicted? Cr is there sera sere of nefarious
conspiracy afoot to destroy the iiicatrs industry? The answer to the question of "Why us* is both complex
and simple. Complex because is :s a rmbinatirn c: three
interrelated but separata factors. Simple because each of the
factors ia# wnar. cer.3i4c.rad by itself, -_-u11c .oovlouo.
-
The three factors -isa (1) asbtsets caua*s dis'-ese,
(2) A spokesman ares* to champicn the r.ou;; for ii.-:;ros crr.nrt1.,
- f XHIftIT
iFM rt> m
W!LENTZ
TEL.; 9088556 i
- i-
P. 002
and (31 4 carr.-;=?ii of new govum-ra.-.;
verc sec up zo
control things that cause disease. Lac us- leek *c such of
thsse factors in turn.
First, chera id no doubt cbac tbe inhalation of
substantial o-tcunts cf
can lead to increased rates of
various Cyeas cf lung disease, including two forms of cancir.
Tbs os are facts which. cannot =a denied, even if they do not
.
apply in all circumstances and under all ccndieicns. The
nodical literature ii full of solid evidence linking asbestos
to disease. In r.y office, I have on file .ton enan 2,:::
!
cadi cal papers dealing vttn the health risks of asbestos an
hundreds uore are published every year.
Secondly, cbe spreader.? of alarm ever ebe health
of asbestos has as its prer-s spokesman one ei tbe rest talor.oad Medical publicists of tbe age------ Or. Irving r, Seiihoff of
Now fork's Mount Sinai Kcspica Mot only is Sr. Selikoff
WlLENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
P. 003
capable o< arousing the
*ni "cr*I indigr.a:;on of cha ait
conservative
or politician with hi* graphis desrripzi;
ar.d predictions of :ha ravage* of asbestos, but he nes eiao
surrou.ndad f.me If with a group of siaileriy talented publicit'.. conscious associate* who have carried the Mount Sinai caasage
zs the far Conors of the .*. u : u c .-..
<
While Or. Selikoff haa. in his zeal, vi.-qizaatior.ail
painted a far darker picture than the facts warrant, wa should
always rtr.er.har m his daftr.sa chat the insulation workers ha has bean studying for r.ora than a dacada wera and still ara
dying frsn asbestos related disease at an appalling rate.
Chi* would ha enough to cloud any .tan's chinking. finally, in the past decade there has hatr. a crezandc
growth in public and govarnr.ar.tnl interest in tnvirorr.ir.tal
and ccsupacicnai health .Tatters. This intarast has been
translated into a sense of far-reaching laws affecting industry
DEC,-04' 97(THU) 11:28
WILENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
5-
P. 004
ia a mannar hitherto unknown in this o? any other country.
: baliava it is aco-ra:i to say that thajo naw Laws, sues
as cha Occupational S.'ftty and Haalth Act. eh a Clean Air Act,
tht Ccr.su.ntr Protection Act, and others, hava forever altered
cat concept ai tat fret enterprise syseea ts it was known in
tail country fcr 4 hundred end fifty years.
Thus, ia ccrbinaeicn, these carat factors created
4 situation ia vftica 4 cadre ojf freshly created federal amende
wit.*1, strs.-.p statutory authority, wart prodded into assign!.-.?
peter it*/ status to asbestos by
Salikcfi and hu Jdllovsrs,
who usad ar.d ia scat casts disused cat ?seao wealth of negative
asbestos-health data contained la the medical literature to
- achieve these ar.ds. . Za short, tha asbestos industry was sinyisd out
because it was vulnerable to attack, because chars was soaaent willing, almost anniouu, to liad chat ^tuuck. ant because
Congress had graciously provided nr.* vehicle.' fs? such an asiai
WILENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
-4 -
P. 005
Haw much of yfuz cr. Soiikoff soys jocuc isniZs%
crua, and th* .~j.*..ter in wr.ich ha hai abuaef cha
re;
data in order to Slew up an afuantialiy occupational preilen into 4 national calazity ar* topic* whieh w shall txanina 4
bit latar. rna background Cf ir.duatry effort* eo daal vie* *>.
**b#*co4-h4ic-h problem 4* 4 national lasua got* back noarly 1
4 daeada, co Cr. SaliJtoff'j now faeoua 1JS4 aasinac. on asbasec
distaaa at cha Hew York Academy of Scienca*. Whiia thl*
did ~uoh to prick tha industry* * ccnactanca about asbasto* 4P.i
haalth, tha arabian itii; rer.air.ad ona of liaitad public and
prasi inearast until araunb 1J<?4 wnan the cadia tegan haati.t;
eba Mdi<r*i Sih searching for
chat would graphirai;
portray American. industry** *us?o*d csaplata dis-agard for
CJto anviro.vant and for t.ha health ar.d safaey of it* verknea
and tho Aaartcan public. Tha aeba*cad-health prebias: war found
1
Qtaaowci 1 'y
ponF
DEC..-04' 97(THU) 11:28
WILENTZ
TEL: 90 88556 1 1 7
-7-
P. 006
to be tailor-made for sue*.
ar.d or. Sulihcff was not
hesitant in catering eo tne sensacicnolist whins of the press.
As 4 result, starting wit.*: Paul arodeur's infar.cu* Now !o:ai:
article of March 1S63, asbestos has since grown into en Itsa
of *4]or press i.v.J:tst.
In chose years, Industry efforts to combat ths spats
of negative press articles on ashes cos were carried on primarily
by the Johns-Manviii<Corporation, which sat up a cask fores
of specialists in various fields to do vhat it could eo porsray
the problem in its proper perspective. while sees amor
successes were achieved, it was found that no one company acting
independently could adequately or effectively represent an e.-.tir
industry in dealing with the press and with government officials
i* * result, in late 1970, eight companies gathered in
Mov York City to launch the Asbestos Information Association
of North America, which wes frankly patterned after the British
DEC.-04'97 (THU) 11-28
W]LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
WILENTZ
TEL ^ 90 83556 1 1 7
-9-
P. 008
from our
narrow initiil publie relations cc.-.sa
the Association has qrew.i if. she Ur. two years into an
organisation with priorities in tight aajor fillda of endeavor.
T>.u art i
Medical A/.li.'i Legal niiiirs Government Affair* Ir.viren.T.ar.tai Control Publicity and Public Relation* Customer Relations Employee Relation*, and Inter-industry Relation*
In briefly discussing AIA activitie* i; i each of these
fields, I will leave government affair* for last, not because
it ha* a low priority within the Association
in fact is i*
currently the aci; important --- but because it : a the esi:
coaplloated and reguirao the itoet disease ion
DEC.-04'97 (THU) 11-29
mLENTZ
TEL: 90885561 17
P. 009
To taka our activities one i: a ei-j then .......... medical affairs.
It ia an obvious fact that if an organisation is to speaJt authoritatively on a medical matter, ic must not only b leaped in tha literature of that particular medical subjact, but it must also k.ae? itself constantly informed of new diseova: and developments. This we have accomplished in a number of wayi
*m
Tor example, by sanding representatives to important medical meetings, such as the 1972 international conference on the biological effects of asbestos held at lyor. in rrar.era. which was sponsored by world Health Organisation.
Both John .Harsh, tha President of the AIA, and : attended that conference on behalf ef tha Association.
We also meet on an irregular basis wish various nedical experts in the field. both from the United States and abroad, to review and discuss recent developments end discovert!*.
WI_LNTZ
JX TEL' 908855611 7
-U-
F. 010
our literature research is eased considnra'oly by
raceivin? the nonthiy cedieal paper distribution .ai the
Xnaeicute of Occupational and Envircnr.nt4l Health ;n Montreal,
which is funded by the Quebec Asbesecs Minin? Association.
This year, far the iirsc tire, eho AIA has elected to
sponsor medical research of its own. Currently underway is a
''
..
m
completely AIA/NA f ur.dad study of chest sounds, which is bailh?
conducted ty 5r. A.\yr.or.i hurphy of the Harvard School of Public
Health. The purpose of the study is to find a r.ew cached of
detemir.in?
individual 's potential susceptibility co asbestos
disease. The Association has also recently decided to contribute
to som very* exciting research into a possible cure far nasothoiiaeA through electromotive treatment. This study is bein? conducted at Superset Hospital ih Hew Jersey.
in the le<jal affairs area, the Association participated
ip. er. assicuc curai capacity in the law suit brought by the
29 WI LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
- 12 -
P. Oil
Industrial Union Department of the A?I/c:s against the Occupational Safety and Health Adninistracion on the standards. In our brief, which was considered by the Justice Cepartmenc co be the beat one filed, the Association supported CSHA against chj :ua, sentwhat oi a unices position for an ' industry to find itself in vis-a-vis a governmental regulatory- agency. Oral argument on the ease -was held April 4 in Washington. While a decision has yce to be handed down by the Court of Appeals, we are confident that the case will be decided in our favor.
tha Association has retained the services of C. i. Shecfcler, with whom oia.-.y of you are familiar, as our spacial consultant on environmental control affairs. At the present tine, Cliff is working with the AIA/NA rnvirsmental Control Juh-Ccenittea on the development of a series of five Aeeociacion complianta .ranuals on the OS.ma standards. We expect to have ch(i jwnuala available within a she:: period of time.
W1LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1
13 -
P. 312
Last yert because of -.-.4 well established w.raiiab; of the aa.*abrana filter racked 4a * .Tonitarin? tool in the aat* industry, the AIA undcr-tco* :.".i sponsorship of a study at a research laboratory in California co decarmine the effect of certain variables on tha overall accuracy of ana method. Che results of :.k.J sz~zj snowed an error factor of plus or sinus 50 per cant under chs nest ravor-bie of ssasuring conditions* These results were sent to beth CSHA and to the National Institute for Cccupaticr.il Safety and Health. A nu.-r.her of the reccrmendacicns contained in the study for improving the accuracy of the nethed have bean incorporated into a socn-toba-ralaasad revised NI35H operations manual on fiber counting.
In the eustoner ralatinos area, tha total effect of negative proas publicity end gover.vtar.o regulations on industry customers is stall today rather poorly defined. Seize eerisera
of tha Association have rao:td saricu* prooiena in this area while others have experienced fit* or no difficulties thus- far.
DEC.-04' 97(THU) 11:30
W!LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 T
-U
P. 013
where customer problems do exist, they nornlly fall
into ana of fiva categories,
rir s:, the easterner has thoroughly investigated his
situation and has found chac he can no long a r afford to continue
using aahastcs or estestrs-car.taining products, elthsr because
the coat of control ia tea high cr because ha would hava to
*P
raise the price of his product to a lavcl that-would mike it
non-ccir.petitive with .-.or.-asiestes containing subscitutn.
Saccr.d, the cussosar has .toe thoroughly investigated
his aituation and only thinks that ha can r.o longer afford to
continue using asbestos.
.
Third, the customer has raad or.a or nor a negative
articles on asbestos in the public press and has r-ada tha snap docition that *wa ought to gac that dangerous stuff out of cur
plane.* Ofan, decisions of this nature are forced on cop uiw*ge:=nt by ill-inforr.ed medical advisors or safety and
health directors.
DEC. -04' 97 (THU) 11 = 30
flI LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7 - is *
P. 914
Four, the customer has r.sither a control problem r.cr he particularly afraid of using asbestos in his own plant. However, he is fearful tnat those of his ccnpeeiciors where finished products do r.c: contain asbestos will acraaa the Adverse health effaces o: asbestos m tryi.i; to take business away fro.o him. Custrr.er fears of this nature are essentially `gutreactions and hens# extremely difficult to deal with. And
five, the customer has r.or.e of these problems or fears but he has been advised by a government official or inspector that ha would be better off if he quae using asbestos or asbestos* containing products in has plane, while this problem does net appear to be widespread, we hAvc learned of a number of situations where is ha* occurred. Actions of this nature by qcVermont officials are totally uncalled for and should bo dealt with promptly and decisively. The best solution is te obtain complete details on the incident and then to register e formal cosplai.-.t
30 WiLENTZ
TEL ' 9088556 1 1 7
li -
P. 015
with the offending official's immediate superior or with the
i
government agency involved.
The Association'a first reaction to the overall
customer relations problem was to approve funds for a series,
of four regional su.-iinars at which Industry customers would
be given a nu.-r.ier of basi-c presentations on the various aspects
.*
**
of the asbestos-health problem. The seminars were tentatively
scheduled for the Spring of this year. However, the experiences of e number of our racier
companies showod that general caeshall type seminars of the
'
type originally contemplated would not be effective in dealing with ehe majerity of customer relations problems. In order
to do the job properly, it was found chat eustoser presentations have to be tailored to the naccs and problems of the individual
custoaar.
DEC..-04' 97(THU) 11:31
WiLENTZ
TEL: 90885561 1 7
n- -
P. 016
As a result, tha Asscciaton ear.sallsd its tchedulad
series of seminars md instil elected to develop a number of packaged :id presentations on such
topics as "fha Farts About Asbestos and Health#' and 'Under
standing the OSHA *e?uiaciar.i,* which could be used by zsraba;
j cccpanitJ 44 p*rt of 4 tailored prtsontieion to individual
i
customers. These slide presentations sra still in tha works, 1
i I
bus should b# available shortly
As with customer relations, the Association !els
that am? layas relations is a proslea bast handled by tha
individual
companies. Thus far# the AlA's sola centra*
hutioa in this era* c: industry concern has been to prepare
thadraft of an Capicyea Safety and Health Guide on Asbestos* Health. Tho draft was rtadi availsbla to the camber companies for their cvn use end at least or.a, /Uybeasoa-hArhacron, has produced is in booklet fora fer distribution to all its employee
WiLENTZ
TEL: 908855611 7
u-
PJH.
l parsonaliy baiitva that tha ampioyaa rulatior.s asaacs o'
cha asbastos-btaith prsbiae is ona that has baan soraly
naglectad by
conpanias within ths industry. Z faal that
this could dsvaiop into * major problem araa in the naar futur
ar.d that steps should ba token now to daai wish is. Wa know
that 0;. Salikofi ar.d various organized labor groups ara
*m
planning a full seals campaign to bring thair interpretation '
of ths asbestos-health problem to chi attention of asbastos
industry employees throughout the nation. If the industry
partita this interpretation to ta disseminated unchallenged,
tha consequences could ba grava indaad
WILENTZ
-
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
iJ -
P. 018
_ relations a-a feat dtfir.ad j ksopi.-g i
CA industry infamd about i-tforcaas nv bvslepr.ncs Qn tug
jcvsrrjatntsi, *edical */vi pr$$ relations fronts ehat Aiitxz
tabascos. This Is accomplished within the AIA by periodic
distributions ef dccu.tan:s and ir. formation so ths ftanbar
caspania* and to ochars c.-. cur mailing list.
Ths valua of tail aetigicy can ha gaguad by the fact that our ovsrall (tailing list ineraaaad froa appraaizacaly a do ran aims in 1371 to nor* than 0 a ysr latar. Whilo va havo hud ca t?i th list aonawhac this ytar for logistical
DEC. -04' 97 (THU) 11 = 31
W1 LENTZ
TEL: 908855611 7
- 20 -
P. 019
ruioMi ve iisca froa e.k.< frequent recwit; wi u;i: receive to bo placid on ehe list ehat the material. ve send out is teir.< rood and is of considerable value to ehcse receiving ' t.
Host to qcvtrr^ar.t affairs* our public relations and publicity actititie* constitute eho single largest consumer of tine, effort and money within the Asscciasien, Those of you who t;i familiar with the treatment that tsbsstos has boon rscsiving in the public press over the years can rsAdiiy understand why this activity ranks so high on our priority list
What ycu nay net understand era the reasons why cur extensive efforts in dealing with the nation's press have been so unsuccessful to date in producing the theoretics. 'balanced* cr "positive* story or. asbestos and health.
DEC.-04'97(THU) 1L32
W1LENTZ
t-y
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
- 21 -
P. 320
The simple fact is that iron the standpoint of jy today'* young activist rspartar, industry ia the bad guy, end
nothing wo do,say or achisve can ever change this impression. If w spend S100 million dollars an environmental control, ehe proas either says w ought to havo dona it ean years ago or that we anould have spent 20Q million, If we sponsor medical research, they say we are trying to buy favorable results. If we are opposed to ridiculously stringent standards, they say wo are in favor of letting our employees die.
X television executive in Minneapolis described this new breed of reporter aa being 'so intent on demolishing the establishment that they would blindly destroy the credibility of the media in the bargain." Another TV executive, this time la Chicago, stated "they want to sake moral and political jf* and social judgments on their assignments and then take sides. Sever mind getting the facts straight."
DEC.-04'97(THU) 11:32
W!LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
* 22
P. 021
A4 result of this "industry os a .terr.mr" philo sc p.*.y,
* 1
abbesses'will rsrain * ~os news item ctly so Imrp an she news
la bad. The `food" that asbestos doai z jr=*te<CT.s.b'S lava* and
proparty la of r.o dcr.ctrn to ths pres*.. ffcawaa** ladtstry
afforta to protect workman end the st*rl ptihSli* izsa asbestos
exposure will always t ?tvn ei-iral aaw;xcps?,. ultca *eh
information is diraccly contrary to eta jtarzrsui* vt as
irresponsible industry produci,-.? a kiiilas* jmatiLc* tjfcat la
the sola alarrant of news worthiness ir tn* u:sTii tverxy.
the prass relations bustla tv11 t.tJKrad^r-a ha ver.,
not whan the madia starts to print posatire* s 'ts.~lo.scad
articles about asbestos, but whan the preus c-.aT.sfc* to print
anything about asbestos at all. As lr.tir u .nB^ora:.7a naws on
as bos toe-health continues to be penantsir, tbj media will
continue to eat it up. the madia wvll only caaia ra carry
.such stories when tbs generation of niyuzz-vm
SiU3
DEC. -04' 97(THU) 11:32
WILENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
m 2: -
P. 022
It it A* alzpl* as chic. Posiciva or balancad 1cq;1ii
A
chibara, sines cAay ara, by dafinicisn* not navsworcAy.
Lae -* giva you 4 vary ssacifls axir.pl* a* principia in Action, as nose of you ilraady know, tna
< ***-
Association is cuirofttiy angagad in aa axtantiva campaign co
iACirm cAa crads prass in icielu on cAa bansfies of asbastos
and on industry aceonpi ishnar.es in tAa anvironatntai control
*^
"
arts. fAa crada prais, uniika tAa national or public aadla* '
is itucA sort raeapeiva ca arciclas of this natura and wo txpacc
to Aa seeing a nurAar of positive 5in tAa crada erass
in cAa next few nenths.
Xa any easa, wo also frta tin ca tin put, out prass raleasrs
a
on various subjacts relating ca asbestos-healtA. A faw wxs
ago* va lasujtad a ralaasa on tAa report of cna advisory ccr^ittae
on aibistos cancers of cAa World HaalcA Organisation, In
brief* cAa raporc concluded that cAa general public is not in
danger frou asbascaa in cAo onvironaant. Thus far* wa hava
.4W. j-
DEC..-04* 91 (THU) 11:32
W1LENTZ
TEL: 90885561 1
- 2-1
P. 023
received nearly two dozen p:t clippi.-.gi f:ca c;idi publication* that carried tha itory. ?a tha best oi ow knowledge, not a newspaper, news nagaoir.e, radio oc TV station, or any other segment ot the public media ran the story, with the single exception of a Trar.cn language papar in Toronto. As X. said before, if the saws is good, the press ain't intarastad.
Nonetheless, tha Association has no intention of abandoning our efforts vis-a-vis tha national'cadia. We will continue to issue appropriate press releases, cooperate with feature writers coi.-.g stone* cr. asbestos, write seathi.tg letters to the editor whan thosa stonaa appaar, and in short, do all wo can to prcsant tha prass with a balanced viaw of tha asbaites-haaltb situation.
Our cast recant effort in thia regard has been tha preparation and printing of an Asbestes and Health Information file, which we have nail ad to cr.a 3,C53 news papers, magazines.
DEC. -04' 97(THU) ii
WiLENTZ
TEL: 9088556 i 17
P. 024
end* publications, radio and ?v station*, seic.-.ce wrtears tee. screes the United States. X have brought a half-dozen files slong with c that you can take a loch at altar the meeting. Basically, the file contains eopiaa of the lava industry position papers which wara distributed earlier, as wall as a number of important medical papers and a pair of photographs illustrating the benefits of asbestos and industry efforts at
*
environmental control. You may be interested to know that ths ties chosen to illustrate the benefits of asbestos is a fire-proof asbestos suit. while we don't expect our information file to change the whole attitude of the press toward asbestos, we are hoping that the nedia will make use of it to. accurately report the industry's position when doing stories on the subject.
And now. having hoard the bad aide of the public relations preblom. it's time for the good news
DEC.-04'97(THU) 11:33
WILENTZ
TEL: 90 88556 L17 -U-
P. 025
And the food now* is .... despite *11 the negative
on that have appeared in eke press
over the past h*lf-do*en y^ars, very few peepla have been frying attention. let s explain. In February, t.M Association undertook personal interview research survey oi the American public to dscenia* Im 4eti:;i eoward asbestos and its awareness of thi health
w issu*. th* survey was conducted by the Opinion Research ' Corporation during March and April. .More than 2,000 dancersphicsily selected Americans were interviewed. I have here with aa sufficient espies for all of you of a suraary of the results.
( ecxHds? rsoy* su>-.MAAy j Before <join? on to describe cur activities in the foverrmont relatione area, Z think it ai?ht be ir.tarestin; ee this point to take a very brief look at the aanner in
DEC. -04` 97 (THU) 11 = 33
WILENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7 n-
P. 026
which Or. SeliXcif and hi* supporters have used hij research
result* to dra/eaeitt ind ixnjfirici eh :icu<.*.o*i af the
asbestos*ha4leh problem. I have eve sli-a* which point this cue rhtho'r conclusively.
Stilt 1 ------ ASSZAaCM OATA
'
Tha first slide shews tha actual rasule* c* or. Salifcof;
four mortality s cudias of asbestos works rs. Tha numbers in *
pizttr.ztitMi* bes Ida the
urss for total numbar of worker*
l*fica*a those who have so far died a#aw w.^il all causes. Tha
percentage Courts alongside tha total r.umbar of deaths fraa
utmsiU, iWi e*Acr and masothelioea art based on the
total number of dsaths from ill causes. not on ch .-.umber of workers in tha study.
tha *ost important study of the lot Is tha second fre the *-?> showing tha deaths fren asbastos-*relstad disaasa
iniCSJ ll RfKi.i c* the iiu4ton workers union, tijnelast
i
DEC,-04` 97(THU) 11=33
WiLENTZ
TEL:908 8556 i 17 - 21 -
P. 027
Of langtii of axposura. You willnot* U4c 3 p+j ck; eg
the a a workacs who !uv diad thus fax lr
/xa <cr.a of
cha thraa isbucoiTilttid diJiiiii.
Thasa, chan, art cha faas St. faiUca^t'-werti ^:s.
This is what ha knows .':ea hia own iarwxta^xTi'cna.. Saw lie
us Cika a look at what ha has dona wauh stcae Xr^txaa la
ordar to dramatics cha problem.
.
j------ pssTncngca
*'
This slid# shows 0;. SelikoJi''* pcsticr-ruxca about asbasccs-ralacid deaths in the vr.i7 5taerr. ^insus ssir.^
ir.to datails, Dr. Salikoff has arrl'.Tat at :hia iu-j,-actions by
a
cha air.pla procadura of suiciplyi.ng -.?* j*i-o*rrrya of dischs
!::.i asbascoa-ruiacad disaasa iron? i:j inxd .atlas werkars
by tha total number of aaplsyaas 1a t* ortirai ir^-stry.
DEC. -04' 97(THU) 11:3 4
WlLENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7 23 -
P.028
you will Also r.oca choc ho ha* cauad hi* projacud
daath ascinata CO anersous haights ovar eha past yaar by
jiapiy increasing tha basa figura of aaployaas oxposad, whila
still raeaining tha prtcantagt muitipiiar of li par cone bain?
axparianctd by tha insuiAci.cn workers.
1. might point out chat this tactic, hevavar lepcopar
and dacapeiva, has bean an anortvoua scccaas sinea aach 1" *
raising of ths astioaca has aarnad or. Salikoff corraspendihgly
gracar eovaraga by tha madia. No dinar cxartpU exists of tha
total gullibility ai tha press than tha rar.-.ar in which
Or. Salikoff manipulated and played on chair prejudices to
gain publicity. I can raadiiy envision cho let of them up
thara at Kcunc Sinai laughing thamaalvaj silly ovar tha ass a
with which they bajnbooslad tha praaa with thasa trunptd-up
prediction*.
*
r^i
DEC..-04' 97(THU) 11:34
W[LENTZ
TEL: 90885561 1 7
23 -
F. 029
Pleas* den't get on wrong, gentlemen. I have little
doubt chae tha insulaeion workers r 1a .'k: dying es rapid!]
44 Or.. S#likoii says chay are. Tha prosiim la h h*j trar.sla: d
their mortality experience co the rase of tha an tin industry,
which is absolutely ridiculous.
Za the first place, tha as tinted r.unber of employees
In the industry is too high -- five tires too high to bo
*
,
praoisa. Evan aura important, according to an analysis Jsy, t>.a
Association of r.ora than a cotan mortality studios, including
those of Sr. Saiikoff, our prediction is that approximately
25,000 past and present employees in tha asbestos industry
have died or will eventually die of asbestos-related disease.
this is loss than ons-thirtaanth of Sr. Selikoffs most ricant
estimate. Za addition, our figures show that 20 cf the 25,000 deaths ---- or 10 par cant --- will occur among those in tha
insulation trades.
'
U
DEC..-04' 97(THU) 11:34
WILENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7 31 -
P. 030
While these estimates should be reassuring to chose
o us in the mining *nd manufacturing areas of the industry, Cw9 mould not forgot that 3,100 of our vorknen are stili going
to die af asbestos-related dliim end that, *11 things r considered, there i absolutely nothing that w can do to
prevent it. The only thing we can do ie to clean up our plants to assure that those entering the industry in the
future will not hev the'same experience. SLITS 3 --~ GCVX.V1.MSNT AGENCIES
.
Within the past year and a half, the main thrust of
Association effqrt has shifted to the government affairs front. The principal agencies in Washington with which wa have been
dealing are, of course, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration; the Enviransantai Protection Agency; the food
and Drug Administration; cha Bureau of Mines; and, to a lesser
degree, the National Institute of Occupational Safety end Health,
W1LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7 . j: -
P. 031
tad the National Institutes of Health, both cl which are mainly involved in research cl facts.
In Addition, a few weak* ago w wara coneactad by the radaral Trade Commission, which had received a petition from tha Center for Science in the Public Intaraat requesting an investigation ol consular uses at asteseos for tha purposa of dotamining whathar certain products ought to ba labelad
*
as hazardoua and whether warnings should be required on all ' Advertisements for those produets. On tha basis at my meeting with an investigator frea the r?C I would say chat we have little to worry about in this particular area,
S!Z2 4------ OSHA Tha Occupational Safety and Health Adainiscration has been of enormous concern to tha industry over the past 11 months. As iaosc of you already know, tha Association expanded trecandous efforts during the six month period
i
W1LENTZ
U-
TEL:9088556117
P. 032
tending ta tho pronulgetian of lest June's CSHA 1c4p.c4.-d3 on
esbestoa. I thin* it is 4 941194 of the offsetivenses of the
CQtel indue try involveesnt in this most crude! mecter thee of eleven me in requirements in eh# standards, the industry position wi Accepted totelly by OSHA on nine of the eleven, cbout fifty percent cn 4 conch, end totally rejected on only a.-.4.
Now, of course, osha is plenning to redo the stenderd - .m
peckege end we ere working closely with them on this project. The first step will be the foraetion cf 4 13 men edvlsary cacaietce to review the current standards end any additional dete end infarction thet her been developed in the ye at sines the standards were promulgated.
Working in cooperation with ni.-.e other trade associations,
including your own, ve heve selected four individuals ee industry*
wide reeosaende cions to OSHA for the four so-called employer
I
DEC. -04' 97 (THU) 11:35
W1 LENTZ
-u-
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
P.033
i
spot* oft tho advisory ccroutcaa. Tha four ?ccyij jclacuoi
wort Guy Cabrislssn# Pciiiimt of Nicaiat; Ika waavar of
fuybastos-Manhattan} Or. rr4 Pundsack, vie* Prtsadont for
Rasaarch and Oavalopnant of Johns-Manviilt; and Cliff Shacklar. In discussing tha formation of eho advisory ceawiataa
with John O'Haill of tha OSKA Standards Davalopr.ant Saction,
wa vara askad to add a coupla of nanas to tha list so that
',
a
OSHA would hava at laast tha saoblaaca of a salactlon. This
wo hava agrotd to do.
Tha eommittaa will ie givan up to nina months to
ccoplata ti's daliiarations and orapara for CSKA a ravisad
standard packaga. This will ta followad by public haarings,
a
approxinacaly a yaar from now. Wo do not axpacc to saa a
a
now standard prooulgaead bafora tha Pall of 1974 .
.
WlLENTZ
TEL90885561i7 - JJ -
P. 034
re is of eouxse xrpomtl* co determine at chi*
whot the r.w standards wail look like, however, X would venture
ta soy choc thay will certainly not be lees Kric; then the
ona wo have today, although they will probably bo loot
confusing and leave less room for employer interpretation.
Son*thin? will untrue* cionobly bo dono to improve the current
difficulties with the monitoring requirements.
'
SLIDE S -- NIOSK
These slid**, by the way, are merely simplified
organisation chart* of the varicua agencies wish which wo deal
in Washingten.
Tho rain function of tho National Institute for
Occupational safety and health it co conduce reaearsh and to
prepare so-called Criteria Packages, which are essentially
recommendations to OSHA for standards on various materials
and chemicals. Such a package on asbestos was prepared
DEC. -04' 971THU) 11:35
WiLENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
-
P. 035
by NIOSH iC tM ti of the OSHA proceedings Ui: yter, NIOSH will not b prtpsring 4 r.sv or revised criteria package (or the upcsrir.g review of the asbestos standards.
I do not believe it would be unfair to lay that of all tha agencies in Washington dealing with asbestos, Dr. Saiikoff has had his greatest influence* on tha young idealistic scientists and doctors at NIOSH. Consequently, , industry influence is weakest in this agency. It was NX OSH/ ' after all, that made the original recor.-nandation for a two fiber standard in tha asbestos industry.
SLICE 6 ---- I?A Nest to OSHA, the Environmental Protection Agency ha; the greatest potential of any federal ageney for adversely effecting the future of the asbestos industry in this country. Not only is tho SPA responsible for developing and enforcing air and water pollution standards, but the Toxic Substances
DEC. -04' 97 (THU)
WILENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 17
P. 036
Control .\ec, r.cw Fr.i;.^ in Congress. will else become an C?a
function a/tor passage. For this ru.-on, I Am pleased to be tbit to say that
the asbestos industry has An excellent relationship with the CPA. no finer proof of this exists thu the /Act thet there was not A singLs major industry recoircicndacion or suggestion side to the CPA At the public hearings on the proposed Asbestos
.m emission regulations that was r.ot accepted either in tsto or . in principle in the final standards, which were published in early April of this year.
We are presently wording with the E?A on the development of waste wter e/fluent standards for asbestos manufact urine plants. Wm fully'expect that these standards will turn out to he as reAScnabls as the air pollution regulations. The proposed e/fluent standards art scheduled to be published in the Federal Register in early July. This will be followed by'
DEC. -04' 97 (THU) 11:36
WILENTZ
it -
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
P. 337
public hearings, probably in lata July or Auguse, witn tha final Jtar.tJardi being promulgated in the fall, perhaps
early as October. Ha are also planning, in the naar future, to meet in
Washington with repcosencacivaa from cha standard* development and enforremene branch** of the z?\ to discuss with than questions of interpretation and compliance policy with regard
to tha new air pollution regulations.
.
We have already resolvad or.* i.-.tarpratatlOA question
that is of special interest to tha asbestos textile industry,
bppraxa.tare.Ly two weeks ago Z waa asked by a mender cc-ipany of
the Association to find out whether the Z?A was planning to
require tha manufacturers of asbestos safety clothing to
register as potential emission coureas undar the law.
1,1 l
!il . j-J
\
JTHUJ 11:36
mLENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
-a-
P. 038
In discussing the situation ever the phene wi^ J?A
compliance officials, I argued chat cha producers of assesecs
safaty cloehing ware not manufacturers aa defined in the
ragulationa but were instead only fabricator* of an aabaseoa
produce, and as such, should not hava co register aa potential
mission sources,
-
After our phono conversation andad, a brief nesting
was held among tha E?a compliance paopia. i *** chan called
back and indorsed that they agreed with ea that tha safety
clothing producers should r.os be required eo regie tar.
Vhila th.s rather manor problem took approximately
an hour and a half and two or enrae phone calls to resolve,
it is indicative of the type of dayco*dcy services chat =he Association provides for its member companies.
-04' 97 (THU) 11:36
W1LENTZ
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7 - 40 -
P. 039
SLJ2E 7------ F3A
Over the ri- year the rood end Orug Administration na shown an increasing tAit;iat in uSiltoi as possible harardoue eoncarunent in various foods, beverages and drug*,
Lace in 1972 they sec up an asbestos task force to review the
situation and to propose regulations and guidelines where
appropriate.
.
Thus far they have concentrated their efforts in two
4rau --- on the use of ashes to s-contact r.atad tale in food
packaging and in cosmetics, and secondly, on the use of asbestos
celuloia filter pada in tha beverage and drug induatrias. in our first meeting with the T~A cask foree last
November on the filter problem, they demonstrated an appalling igaeranee about the health hasards of asbestos. Since then,
they have gotten one heck cf a lot smarter, due at least in
part Co the crcner.dous amount of data and information which
#
W1 LENTZ
TEL9088556117
- 41 -
P. 040
the Association has besn supplying to the.?.. as a ccnsaq-.. tht FDA is today lift panicky about asbestos and tr.orsfor less likely to propose foolish, unsupportoblo regulations Spokesmen from the fCA have, in fact, defended the filter ; against environmentalist attacks in tha prose and alaawhax recant tontha. This is, qulea obviously, a healthy sign.
SLIDE I------ INTI BEST CSOUPS Sine* our eoncacca with tha National Institutes ai
` 9-
Health have been quite minimal, and since the health and safety section cf -ha Bureau of Mines is presently being reorganised, we can now proceed to cake a brief look at the
1 various interest groups that have been in tha forefront of
the assault on asbestos. These are the groups and organise: that constitute athe ocher side.*
as you can see, there are e lot of them, and be twee; the they can exert powerful pressure, on legislators and administrators At all levels of gover.-T.anc.
DEC..-04'97 (THU) i 1:3 7
SV/LENTZ
- 42
TEL: 90885561 1 7
P. 041
Sir.ca tiffs is noc available co discuss each at chair
sctivitiaa and philosophis* in detail, I would life* to say
thAC w keep class watch on all of efts* And arc always
prepared co eike whatever action is appropriate whin they
Step ouc of Ur.a.
` 51152 PSOJ22TOR CFf---- - 1ISK7 OM
Our activities in tha area oi Congressional relations
'
hAva issn quits minirul co dace, Although wa are preparing for
chi upcoming struggle in Congoass ovar workman's compensation
ra icon legislation, ac which t-~a ssbascss is unquestionably
going co re raekad ovar che coals by Or. Selikoff and his
compatriot* in organ!sad labor.
Unfortunately, che Association has neither tha manpower
nor tha time co embark on a full-scAla legislative inform*cion
program. Wa hava mat on occasion with tha legislative and
legtl assiscar.ts to various Senators -ho hava attacked asbestos,
a
DEC..-04' 97(THU)
WfLENTZ
- m
TEL:9088556 1 1 7
- 43 -
p. 042
however euch aors noeds to be dona in this area and I ax. afraid
individual aembe? companies are going to have eo bo the prise
ball carrion and noe the Association.
For a.csontially ene same reason, our government
`accivieiaa at the staea and local lavol have declined to
essentially zero over the peat year and a half. This haa not
been coo serious a deficiency aa r.aat of the authority of
<
m
the citioa and states in asbestos control has been usurped * ~
by ths various federal regulatory agencies. Nonetheless,
cere individual company activity ia required at these lavels
of government.
In conclusion, Z chink we can all be justifiably
pleased with what we have been able to aecenpliah ir. the past
faw years In resolving the cornucopia of incarrelatad prob Ians
that cor.atituta the asbestos-health situation.
DEC. .-04'97 (THU) 11:37
WI LENTZ
-u -
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
P. 043
Car plan** are clearer nd our vor.';meA
preteeted,
TAi general public his Sasn shewn re be in no darker froo
asbestos, it it ever wee. While we have seen rsgvleeed
extensively, far the nose pec? the star-dird* char have been
developed have nee been as bed e we feared they night be,
end in sens cases they turned cue fac better :nan ve ever
dared hope, in addition, while we ere trill caking our luape
*
in the public press, me nee effect of all this adverse - .
*
publicity has been shewn ea be surprisingly snail.
We have sweated a lot and we have groaned a lot, but
we ere still standing and we are scill viable. I sense teday
within the industry a greater feeling of cor.iider.ee *.n the
future than at any tisu in the past few years. Sue we must
not rest contented.
.
:
DEC,- 97 (THU) 11:38
WI LENTZ
49 -
TEL: 9088556 1 1 7
P.044
W4 cm; cc;co.7.ber chac Cr. Sai;>oJi has co da:* bn
far 1*49 auecassful than our industry ha* in influencing chi
decisions ot cho various foverrunontal regulatory agencies.
, This will make hia cry harder. Just las; week I caw a speech
or his in whioh h* purposely misinterpreted son* data by a
dasciflfuashad 3n:ish scientist in ordar co prova that *v*r.
cwo fiber* is no; a sufficiently safa Laval (or occupational
.
. .
.
exposure co asbestos.
The scrawl* is far froa over, we must noe only
cancir.ua but ir.daid expand our activities in th* various
anas of concarn if wa aca to as sura cha future well-bain*
of the asbestos industry in tha United States.
Thank you very much.
t'
I ; I
AFFIDAVIT OF ROBERT C. COHEN
STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA COUNTY OF PHILADELPHIA
)
) ss. : )
ROBERT C. COHEN, of full age,upon his oath, deposes sand says: 1. I am principal in the firm of Knipes Cohen Associates , a shorthand
reporting service located at 400 Market Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
2. In 1978 Knipes Cohen Associates was designated as the official
repository for documents of the Asbestos Textile Institute.
3. In February 1980 the deposition of Doris Fagan, executive secretary
of Che Asbestos Textile Institute, was taken at the offices of Knipes Cohen
Associates.
._
4. Ms. Fagan produced at her February 1980 deposition the origimal
minutes of ATI meetings as maintained by her as executive secretary of the
Asbestos Textile Institute.
.
5. From the dac.e of that deposition, I have been custodian of records
of chose originial minutes.
6. The originials of the ATI minutes have remained in the drawers at
the offices of Knipes Cohen Associates under my direction since Ms. Fagan's
deposition of February 1980.
7. Whenever copies of those minutes are r quested by a party to the
asbestos litigation, they are xeroxed by Knipes Cohen Associates' employees
under my direction and are certified.
8. The copies of the ATI minutes which 1 have provided are Indicated as
Exhibit "A" and are true and accurate copies of documents identified by Doris
Fagan ac her deposition on September 9, 1930.
page
9. There have been no additions to, deletion from or alterations Co che documents as identified by Ms. Fagan on Septemebr 9, 1980.
Sworn to and subscribed before
*me chis
75 day of October,1988
l\ idk
CAPPING TCn
i'vcoiru5i,cHMa pn,;a co. Com^irsion Expires Co; j. ,mj
ROEERT C. COHEN