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FILE NAME: Flintkote (FLK) DATE: 1969 Feb 18 DOC#: FLK058 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Minutes of the Meeting of the Health & Safety Council - Asbestos Cement Products Assoc. I { ' L Law Omets B 0 B E O A i* M m * f t CCa l J . PfN N IN O TO N ftT R A o f K M M IIO J. BO lXN? je r o m c j . sh eet ac UMftCR C V D U ftH T * MAUL B D E M B L IN O * * ftw e wo n o h a v h a n d JO H N E LHTLTTON HERBERT ft M C D M tC * ralnm bmvocr J . BORDON COONEY* W ILLIAM M BR O W N III * JAMES A -D N O B llX * J O * * ** LCOOY V IN C EN T P. *AkT> ROBERT R. OOCRLV V M iiN o o u o m c n tv * J A M S ft C ftA w T O R D * D O M IR A H I Z O JOBCNM ft CR W iN JOOCRM A . TATE JO** J . C U NNINOM AM . lit A C H ARO KALTER NOMALO C MATOAMCR* BARRY SIM O N OCLftCWT ft. S M IT H * * CUSTOM A .fttL M T C ftC C K JO HN t. 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R O S E N flE L O Ca r l a . s o l a n o Ph il ip j . a a y a u S a a S C .ftA JR D SROW N ' IR EN E DOWDY S O N R IE R .M aC O O O O AL S h e r r y a w iR S py M ITCHELL C SLUM RAYMONO E. D O M BR O W ftKI. J R DEBORAH M HLWCNAK KENNETH A .JACOBSEN THOMAS A .S T R O u ** * E L LE N M BR iO O S JE P P R C Y W. O O LA N * KATHERINE C KNOK LA R Rv p LAUSACM Tho m as j -mcU ar BARBARA L.M IN D C l L RO BERT A . WADE JAM ES A. OOOOHAN D O U O lAS M R C C V tl A LIS O N M. BENDERS LINO A B m iftC M MARY P H lO G iN S LO U IS R M O T T A .J A * * R O ftC R T T V A N C t.J R J A N E O TO O D P lN * * DC CHA j S C H S K >0 4 * P i C h a P T c W A vT fH * aplcnc n c u * * Da v id 6 R A T T I* D ia n a ft D O R iL O B Q i. P H ILIP ft HORS David Sm ith STEPHEN C ftR O W H RO fteS p LINCO LN JCTTREY L ftC H LR T t MART C O ftTE R TRAAAH MAROARCT t W O O O R V JO S E P H o DPRCBPTMC THOMAS R CSHELMAS AROCR J OLSON CRA (0 j Ik A K U D " JOSEPH C CRAWTORC REOORY j PO * CHARLES M HOMAR* PRANA C. BABATHVO Cl a y t o n w B O u l m a r MOWARO J - DAVIS ROftCRT T MARCHITI JANE* KOLt NICHOLAS J LPPOMC.li JOYCE S METERS CRAiO R-SMAOiN U S A ft WCRSMAW p * JANET ftCRNET MUHT NANCY L SCHULTE SHARON V L PRESO** P h i l i p A MAMftUMOC COTY 0 NACKIN VALERIC J MUNROM PETER A VOOT May 25, 1985 * ALBO M E N S E OP DISTRICT OP OOLLM Cia ftA A OT OIBTNICT OP C O LUM BIA BAR ONLY Ann Kimmel, Esquire Rowland & Rowland, P.C. Post Office Box 3308 Knoxville, Tennessee 37917 Re: National Gypsum Company -- Greenville School District Cases Dear Ann: I enclose copies of those documents that Dr. Wright located just before his deposition on May 3, 1984, that we are producing in response to your subpoena to Dr. Wright as limited by Dr. Wright's objections. Dr. Wright and his wife are out of the country for a period of weeks and he will, therefore, not be able to review and sign his deposition transcript until he returns. Yours very truly, Enclosure Susan K. Herschel For SCHNADER, HARRISON, SEGAL i LEWIS L. /* i O4t0HIPBaIPaA*EAAItrTooOF0* fvivi avori Ft.i e*nTttOaprerE 40unm.aO.U00*C4 40.00*0*,0ooiCk4k 4400 B..Celvo**OAwr 440VklE4.r.00OBVOIVEB *CtTH m. >iHAB>|T cco caskr. Be.bCE*BOC 00B0O*k0C0OI4V.EOCOTE*C oeOEor t.4**co 0 B T 0 0 T. V C l r*WWBW t . v u * O I m C C 4 W O M I T o o o e o t o . t b io e t OOBOwCr o 4 4 0 D A V IE S , H A R D Y , L O E B , A U S T IN & (OAvi* . MAOT CMCNCH) ( t o t . CMt/*C>"'tt (Au s t i n . u n S. S mith W A ttS) TW O BROADWAY N E W Y O R K , N.Y. 1 0 0 0 4 March 3 19^9 MEMORANDUM TCkt*0f (fil) tiii Aiiatii ^YiaiABr KIOTO* OFFICE n rr *vtwt C * T O M . T- l O O l T TO: John H. Davies - A.A.A. Clinton I. Read - A.A.A. W. B. Evans - Philip Carey Janes A. Suddeth - Philip Carey Clarence M. Brasher - Philip Carey S, D. Weaver - Cement Asbestos Harold McNabb - Certain-teed M. S. Davis, Jr. - Certain-teed A. E a Alpine - Certain-teed James D. Moran - Flintkote Walter N. Knorr - Flintkote Janes A. Main - Flintkote J. G. Hall - GAF Harry Messier - GAF Edward C. C e m y , Jr. - Johns-Manvilie Clifford L. Sheckler - Johns-Manville A. H. Fay - National Gypsum Frank H. Zimmerman - National Gypsum J. Steiner - Supradur K. Fred Netter - Supradur Kurt Schwarz - Supradur C. P. Kipp - U.S. Gypsum. Gerhardt R. Krug - U.S. Gypsum A. Schmidt - U.S. Gypsum E. Morrow - U.S. Gypsum N. D. Lowe - U.S. Gypsum Ivan Sabourin, Esq. - Quebec Asbestos Mining Association Dr. George W. Wright - St. Luke's Hospital, Cleveland Gentlemen: Re: Health & Safety Council Health Please tively in Nev; I enclose my draft minutes of the meeting of the L Safety Council held in New York on February 18, 1969. note that the next meeting of the Council is tenta scheduled for Tuesday, May 20th, at the Biltmore Hotel York. Yours sincerely, S.Cot-. 'l . Minutes of the Meeting of the Health & Safety Council/ Asbestos Cement Products Association- February 18, 1969 A meeting of the members of the Health fit Safety Council of the Asbestos Cement Products Association was held pursuant to notice at the Biltmore Hotel, New York, New York, at 9:30 A.M. on February 18, 1969. The following persons were present: C. I. Read C. M. Brasher S. D. Weaver Harold KcN&bb J A . Main W. M. Knorr Harry Kessler E. C. Cerny, Jr. C. L. Scheckler F. H. Zimmerman J. Steiner K. Schwarz C. P. Kipp A. Schmidt E. Morrow N. D. Lowe Ivan Sabourin, Esq. Dr. George W. Wright Bradley Walls, Esq. Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Philip Carey Cement Asbestos Certain-teed Products Corp. The Flintkote Company The Flintkote Company GAP Corporation Johns-Manville Sales Corp. Johns-Manville Sales Corp. National Gypsum Company Supradur Supradur U. S. Gypsum U. S. Gypsum U. S. Gypsum U. S. Gypsum Cuebec Asbestos Mining Association St. Luke's Hospital, Cleveland Davies, Hardy,'Loeb, Austin k Ives The meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Mr. James A. Main. The minutes of the last meeting of the Council held on November 14, 1968, which had been previously mailed to all members, were upon motion duly made and seconded, unanimously approved. Mr. Cerny delivered the Treasurer's report end stated that the present balance of the Council is $500.01. Mr. Cerny's report was accepted. Mr. Cerny also prepared a budget for the calendar year 1969 as follows: Miscellaneous Expenses, including travel Administration Legal $ 500. 1,000. 2,000. $3,500. Mr. Cerny stated that meeting expenses ere to be borne by members on a pro rata basis, printing expenses, If any, are r The sticky note shown below was written by Barry Castleman and attached to the page immediately following this one along the right margin at the spot marked on the next page with an 1 - 2- to be borne on a pro rata basis and, therefore, these expenses were not included in the budget. Mr. Cerny proposed that each member company of the Council be assessed $350 to provide for the 1969 budget. On motion duly made and seconded, the budget was unanimously approved as submitted. The Chairmen, Mr. Main, then polled each member company for its approval of the $350 assessment. All members polled agreed to the assessment. Mr. Main spoke briefly on the background of the concern in the asbestos industry with health and safety practices. He noted that the Asbestosis Research Council in England has already developed four Recommended Codes of Practice entitled: (1) For Handling, Working, and Fixing of Asbestos and Asbestos Cement Products in the Building end Construction Industries; (2) On Precautions to be taken when Cutting, Drilling or Machining Asbestos Cement and Asbestos-based Boarcfe in the Shipbuilding Industry; (3 ) For Handling Consignments of Asbestos Fiber in British Ports; (4) For Handling Asbestos Fibers used in Thermal Insulation. Copies of these Codes were distributed to the members in attendance. Mr. Main also referred to the technical note prepared by the Asbestosis Research Council entitled "The Measurement of Airborne Asbestos Dust by the Membrane Filter Method". Copies of this technical note were distributed to members in attendance. Mr. Main also referred to the memorandum on Dust Sampling and Counting dated December 9, 1968 prepared by M. Lachance', Dust Control Engineer of the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association. Copies of this memorandum were also distributed. Mr. Main noted that there had been development? sub sequent *0 the meeting of the Council held on November 1^, 196S. In 'particular, he referred to the speech by Dr. Selikoff at the Dallas meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science; the study program of the Institute for Occupational and Envlroanental Health in Montreal supported by QAMA and the studies of the Industrial Hygiene Foundation. Mr. Scheckler reported that no progress had been made on the proposed safety manual since the last meeting of the Council because so many developments had occurred that addi tional time was required to assess them. Mr. Scheckler noted that the American Congress of Governmental Industrial Hygienists had reduced permissible particles in its 19^9 industrir-1 standard from 5 million to 2 million particles per cubic foot of air. He stated that Johns-Manvilles goal is 1 million particles per cubic foot. Mr. Scheckler observed that the proposed British regula tions are becoming more stringent; that the U. S. Department of the Navy is strongly advocating the wearing of respirators by all men doing asbestos work. He stated that new types of cc7i~ : L 1SC I 0 - 3 respirators are needed because the best respirators available nay be satisfactory for particulate matter, but they are not satisfactory for asbestos fibers. Mr. Scheckler described to the meeting the membrane filter method being developed by J-M to evaluate the amount of dust their men breathe. A meeting of the Subcommittee on the proposed pamphlet will be convened following this meeting. The members of the Subcommittee on the pamphlet on Recommended Health Safety Practices for Handling and Applying Asbestos Cement Products are: A. E. Alpine Harry Messier F. H. Zimmerman C. L. Scheckler Certain-teed GAP National Gypsum Johns -Kan''/ille Some, discussion was held on the purposes and propriety of Issuing the proposed booklet. It was noted that as to asbestos cement siding, there is very little problem in the field, and that the end use of the materials should guide the purposes of the booklet. In particular, it was noted that a differentiation must be made in the two groups that are to be reached by such booklets. One group can be envisioned as consumers and the other group can broadly be called asbestos workers. Mr. C e m y remarked that the proposed booklet was originally contemplated for use among fabricators end was expected to outline health/safety measures for workers and not necessarily for consumers. Mr. Cer^y stated that one purpose of issuing such booklets health/safety measures would be limitation of liability of the manufacturers. Ke stated that there has been a tendency for employees to sue their fabricator employers as well as the manufacturing suppliers. In such suits, there is no restriction to the recovery limits of Uorknon's Compensation and other manufacturers are often impleaded as third-party defendants. Mr. C e m y stated that any booklets prepared and issued by the Council should be backed with a strong public relations effort that would secure write-ups of interviews and other releases for trade press magazines. Fublic relations efforts should elso keep insurance carriers advised of what the industry is doing. Following Mr. Cerny's remarks, the Council authorized Mr. Main to appoint a Subcommittee on Litigation, Legislation end Insurance. Mr. Main will advise the appointees to that Subcommittee directly and will report at the next meeting of the Council. Mr. Zimmerman reported that there had been no meeting C . ' . i*]... M M -k - of the Subcommittee on In Plant Environmental Control end that this Subcommittee would meet following the remarks of Dr. Wright. The In Plant Environmental Control Subcommittee was authorized at the November l^th meeting of the Council end is to have one representative from each member of the Council. Mr. Main reported the following appointments by members of representa tives to the In Plant Environmental Control Subcommittee: C. I. Read A. E. Alpine W. N. Knorr Harry Messier C. L. Scheekier F. H. Zimmerman K. Schwarz G. R. Krug Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos Certain-teed The Fllntkote Company GAF Corporation Johns-Manville National Gypsum Supradur U. S. Gypsum Kr. Weaver of Cement Asbestos and Mr. Brasher of Philip Carey advised Mr. Main that appointments of representatives to the In Plant Subcommittee from their respective companies would be made shortly. Mr. Main introduced to the Council Dr. George W. Wright Director of Medical Research, St. Luke's Hospital, Cleveland, Ohio. Dr. Wright addressed the meeting on "A Current Assessment of Asbestos as an Environmental Health Problem*'. (For the benefit of the members in attendance who requested it, there follows a brief summary of the highlights of Dr. Wright's talk. Dr. Wright has reviewed and approved this summary.) Dr. Wright remarked that his appearance before the Council was appropriate because information available to him indicates that*one-fourth of the asbestos used in the United States goes into asbestos cement products. He stated that although studies had been made on the biological effects of asbestos fiber when such fiber is not bonded (i.e. textile, milling, mining and Insulation operations) examination end study of the effects of such fiber when incorporated in asbestos cement products would appear to be warranted, considering the volume of asbestos used in these products. By way of historical background, Dr. Wright indicated that British Government statistics in the 1530's provided information showing that 80^ of male workers in the asbestos textile trades over a period of twenty years or more had asbestosis. Dr. Wright noted that 95 of particles which pess through human air passages is expelled. By analogy, asbestos fibers probably do the same. Of the fibers remaining in the lung, the human body coats some of these with protein and iron. Because fiber glass and graphite particles arc also subjected IMS' t - 5- to similar phenomenon, these coated particles are referred to as "ferruginous bodies". After substantial exposure for twenty years to asbestos dust, 75/ of the workers 60 exposed will develop scars detectable by X-rays. Some workers develop these scars sooner then others. The formation of scars constitutes the disease known as asbestosis. As these scars develop, the pipes through which blood flows through the lungs are destroyed. Death can ultimately result. The figures in Great Britain as of 1930 proved that the mortality rate or length of life of textile workers in Britain is shorter. Since then, the life span of such asbestos textile workers has improved because the number of fibers in the air has been reduced. Dr. Wright explained that many lessons had been learned from studies involving silica. As a result of counts made of silica particles, and experience that silica particles measuring 5 microns or under in diameter were those that stayed in the lungs, limits were established of maximum concentration of silica particles in industrial settings as early as 1939. At that time, maximum concentrations were 5 million particles per cubic foot. Dr. Wright outlined the Lynch studies published in 1935 which associated bronchogenic cancer with asbestosis. These studies were fortified by further studies made in Man chester, England in 1950 by Dr. Doll. Dr. Doll's studies identified 11 cases of bronchogenic cancer among 113 v;orkcrs in an asbestos textile factory. Subsequent studies in Canada done by the Industrial Hygiene Foundation did not duplicate the Manchester results. Subsequently, studies were done by Drs. Selikoff and Hammond among insulation workers. These studies claimed that the incidence of lung cancer is 12 times higher among insulation workers than among non-insulation workers. Dr. Wright noted that in those studies no bronchogenic cancer was found among non-smokers. Dr. Wright explained in brief outline sort theories of carcinogens and indicated that there are some who are exploring the concept of co-carcinogens - that is to say, that asbestos fibers and cigaret smoking may act together to become cancer inducing agents. It is knov.n, for example, that bronchial cancer occurs 8 times more frequently among smokers than non-smokers and 90 times more among smokers who are also insulation workers than among non-smokers who are not insula tion workers. In passing, Dr. Wright suggested thr.t it might be HU - 6- possible for employers to linit employment in insulation work only to non-smoking workers. Dr. Wright explained that the policing of such employment conditions could pose many practical problems. Dr. Wright also explained the findings of certain studies made among workers in South Africa where a cancerous growth was noted to appear on the outer surfaces of the lungs. These studies indicated that these cancers, or mesothelioma, occurred among South Africans exposed to crocidolite. He noted, however, that there were differences between statistics compiled in the Transvaal and in the northwest Cape. He also stated that cases of mesothelioma occurred among workers as well as among people who live near crocidolite workings (socalled "neighborhood cases"). Finally, Dr. Wright sketched some developments being made in studies of gastrointestinal cancer which may indicate the development of cancer follovd.ng the swallowing of asbestos particles or fibers by asbestos workers. Dr. Wright explained that considerable research needs to be done in this field. In response to a question concerning proper practices of industrial hygiene and the detection of fibrosi's and of bronchogenic cancer, Dr. Wright stated that employers should conduct X-rays of all workers exposed to asbestos every tv.*o years commencing before the fifth year of employment in such exposures. Dr. Wright also explained some of the difficulties involved in running tests on sputum samplesj stating that six samples were required from each v.-erker in order to achieve a true reading with regard to cancer. After a fevi general Questions posed by members of the Council, the meeting adjourned. Respectfully submitted, / Bradley YJalls