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FILE NAME Manville JMA DATE 1970 Jan 12 DOC JMA366 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Memo RE Sprayed Fireproofing Insulation Meeting 3453A CONFIDENTIAL Environmental Control Department Research & Engineering Center January 12 1970 H. M. Ball - GHQ L. Pundsack Solon Jr. - GHQ F. M. L. VanDerbeek H. M. Jackson - DHQ W. P. Raines - GHQ Sprayed Fireproofing Insulation Meeting Building Trades Employers Association Attached is a Memorandum detailing the pertinent comments made by people in attendance at this meeting The purpose of the meeting was to hazard to the construction trades by the use of containing reduced or eliminated review ways in which the potential and the general public generated spray insulations could be =--s4 health EM / eF ms Attach CC File , /. - E. M. Fenner CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM SPRAYED FIREPROOFING INSULATION MEETING BUILDING TRADES EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATION Environmental Control Department Research & Engineering Center January 12 1970 On Friday January 9 1970 at 10:00 A.M. a meeting was held at the Trades Employers Association headquarters on the 20th Floor of 711 ThBiuridldAinvge. New York City A list of those in attendance is shown on Attachment A The meeting was chaired by I. J. Selikoff M.D. The purpose of this memorandum is to transmit to the addressees pertinent comments that were made by different people Selikoff Selikoff opened the meeting by briefly reviewing asbestos and health problems He stated that many of his comments concerning the health hazards applied to fibrous glass and mineral wool as well as asbestos He condemned the use of any product containing fibrous materials such as fiber glass mineral wool or asbestos when the product surface was in contact with a moving air stream used for building air conditioning He said that asbestos when inhaled in large quantities over significant periods of time presents a serious health risk and that if you have lived half mile or so from an asbestos using plant there is a significant chance that you might develop mesothelioma Therefore it is important that we have the airborne asbestos fiber concentration as near zero as possible to eliminate these risks Levine Mr. Levine was introduced by Dr. Selikoff as the President of the Sprayed Mineral Fiber Manufacturers Association He listed the steps that the manufacturers are taking to eliminate risk to passers and to construction workers 1 Proper preparation of materials including the addition of a dust suppressant 2 Improved application guns which completely encapsulate the material in water 3 Instructions in proper application techniques 4 Enclosing the entire work area with tarpaulin or other suitable curtains In order that such enclosures are completely effective it may be necessary to eliminate spraying of the outer columns and spandrel beams and encase them in concrete instead as each floor is poured CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM -2- January 12 1970 5 Schedule work in building so a properly protected applicator and perhaps his helper are the only people present during spraying The Sprayed Mineral Fiber Manufacturers Association is preparing an application manual that will detail proper work practices including housekeeping Selikoff The National Air Pollution Control Administration must establish by 1972 criteria for asbestos air pollution and by 1975 applicable control standards Dr. Selikoff's present opinion is that the occupational level will be set at between 2 to 6 cc he is strongly in favor of 2 cc or less and that the ambient air criteria will be 1 fiber per 100 cc 0.01 cc Rosen Skidmore Owens and Merrill are now changing their architectural specification writing to eliminate potential hazard from asbestos containing materials to the applicators or building occupants Shapiro He recommends that laws be passed banning the use of asbestos fiber in sprayed fireproofing Novak Novak made a long speech on the hazards to which asbestos workers have been and are being exposed He claims not enough is being done to protect the health of his Union members Gropp Mr. Gropp stated there is an urgent need for governmental standards for control of the industry When such standards have been set means must be provided to police construction jobs to assure that they are being met General Comments The meeting now resorted to a general terminated by Dr. Selikoff asking the who up until this point had said very next step was to be give and take discussion which was general contractors representatives little and Herbert Levine what the It was finally decided that Levine would set up a meeting with the General Contractors Association to review his industry's manual of application practices and determine how these practices could be implemented r Sprayed Insulation Meeting Attachment A Friday January 10 1970. 10:00 A.M. 711 3rd Ave. bet 44th & 45 St. 20 Flr Re Sprayed Insulation American Iron & Steel Institute 633 3rd Avenue NYC e J. C. Spence Chief Fire Protection Engineer ROVERT Employers 2 Building Trades Ll ROVERTROVERT Assoc .... Earl HNVEILSON HNVEILSON HNVEILSON Fullilove 697-2860 711 3rd Avenue NYC Secretary O Contracting , ; Plasterer's Assoc Louis DiBono 516 6-0100 President DiBono 732-5222 Plastering Great Neck Co. Inc. or 136 Liberty St. Diesel Construction 1133 Avenue of the Americas NYC Morse 581-0300 Chairman of..Board- ~ ~ George A. Fuller Co. 595 Madison Avenue Inc. NYC Jim Taylor Jr. Vice President 355-2700 Gypsum Asso ..c cei ce ea e ee nt eecee eeecs ese ' 201 North Well Street Chicago Ill David E. Brackett 312-726-5675 Sec of Building Code Committee , x Investing Builders & Owners Assoc Louis Whiteman 420 Lexington Avenue NYC President . OR 9-6555 8a A Manville CorporatioBn ill Raines 7-5600 150 E. 42nd Street NYC , Public Relations a M Environmental ControEl dmund Fenner 201-722-9000 Manville New Jersey Director Environmental Control Local 799 12. Asbestos Broadway NYC a Workers Jack Novak 477-6760 International Pres IAHFIAW 10 Local 60. 80 E. 11 Plasterers Local woes noveveseesen . Mr. Lojocarno President 982-8888 - - 11 Metropolitan StanleSty anley Fonfa NI 5-2506 Brooklyn New York Vice President 12 Morrell 15 East 54th Street NYC Mel Praeger President 873-4014 13 NY Assoocf Consulting 630 3rd Avenue NYC SGERALD KATZ Engineers Elliott Feiden 697-9418 V.P. Structural Engineers 14 Emery 400 Roth and ... Park Avenue NYC Julian Roth 753-1733 Administrator -- O James Ruderman Murray Shapiro 515 Madison Avenue NYC Partner 758-6065 16 a Skidmore Owings & Merrill 400 Park Avenue NYC Harold Rosen PE Specifications 9-2121 17 18. co Sprayed Mineral 212 DI 9-4390 Fiber Fiber ' Assoc Herbert Levine President . . BA 7-3539 ~ Rudy Toth WO 4-5265 Philip Carey Corp. ~ Linden N.J. ~ Lee Jenne 421-7122 Keene Corp. 345 Park Avenue NYC Harry HarryGropp DI 9-4390 U.S. Mineral Products Furnace Stanhope N.J. NYC Tishman Construction Corp. .ceccccssccccses. 75 Fulton Street NYC EDW RUGIN Joseph Newman JU 2-6700 V.P. Tishman Research- 19. Turner Construction 150 E. 42nd Street NYC C.C. Powell 573-0400 Senior Vice President 20 a Uris Brothers Represent Repre esed nted by Mr. 850 3rd Avenue . Investing Builders . 688-8200 Louis Whiteman = = V PRESENT PRESENT PRESENT PRESENT 7 - 21 Environmental Sciences Laboratory Mount Sinai School of Medicine 5th Ave. & TR 6-1000 100 St. NYC we. Irving J. Director Selikoff M.D. Ext 6106 . Harry Heimann M.D. Occupational Health Ext 6102 William Nicholson Ph.D. Industrial Hygiene Ext 204 w William Reitze B.S. Industrial Hygiene Ext 204 Duncan A. Holaday M.S. Industrial Hygiene Ext 204 MISCELLANEOUS NOTES FROM SPRAYED INSULATION MEETING - 1/9/70 BUILDING TRADES EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATION - 711 Third Ave. I me Le DR SELIKOFF \ t P,P NAPCA will set criteria by 1972 for ambient air 00 will set control standards by 1975 . probably will be two fibers per cc or less for asbestosis General public will not be allowed to breathe as much as much as do workers in the factories a SHAPIRO Consulting Engineer Challenged Dr. Selikoff on any risk to passersby Answer is simple -- ban asbestos ... by law There are other routes and materials and will obviate need for asbestos spraying design techniques that EVINE YS EVINE & GROPP ae Their independent laboratories have show that asbestos is not dislodged from return air plenums GROPP SMFMA had meeting in Philadelphia Health yesterday with Department of FONFA GROPP ETC- + Each spray manufacturer is working on the problem but they have no intention of sharing one company's secrets with another ae DR SELIKOFF Dr. Holmes and others in U.K. have shown that air circulating through finished buildings that have sprayed air plenums contains some fiber about 1/10 the amount allowed in factories Dr. Selikoff has no information as to whether this amount does or does not present a risk to occupants FONFA Turner Bros. has ' re air plenums refused to have Girard - re risk to occupants Trust after Philadelphial Philadelphial Philadelphial Philadelphial Building sprayed the spraying LEVINE Plenums can be spray lined with asbestos in a manner that will permit no fiber to get into the air too expensive Would involve coating -- not SHAPIRO -- Buildings have only been sprayed in NYC to any significant degree since about 1956 previously they used mostly cement casing Economics Some spraying goes back 40 years though JENNE What A spray job to GSA standards costs twice a NYC office building . spray job does ROSEN Skidmore Owens Our firm will not design > any more buildings to be sprayed The article in the NEW YORKER alerted us OBSERVATIONS Dr. Selikoff and Levine and Gropp in real battle over the facts -- the hazard Spray people think the whole thing is exaggerated and are unconvenienced rn NA Dr. Selikoff berated spray people for lack of progress and interest Spray people told him that they are working individually on it but no single company will share its secrets with the others Skidmore Owens has the broad view of the problem Spray people want some agency to agree to enforce any standards obviously to keep all the boys honest - W. P. Raines 1/12/70 af dafavi at 2 4 ASBESTOS SPRAYING REGULATIONS 1 Before application the Before theapplication floor of the area of containing material commences involved shall be cleared of all objects , material and equipment other than that employed in the of the application dispersal shouldbe covered in a manner that precludesthe subsequent subsequent insulation insulation insulation dispersal dispersal dispersaldispersal dispersaldispersal dispersal dispersal of of asabestos sbestos particulates it em a 2. The entire floor or the part of the floor to be insulated shall be en- closed in a manner which shall preclude the escape of insulating material from the enclosure All interior open areas such elevatorshafts stair- wells , etc. shall be cnclosed in a manner which shall prevent escapeescape of insulating material from the workingarea Stack effect of the shafts stairwells ctc shall be considered in providing proper enclosures 3 Wet containing insulation which has fallen to the floor shall be immediately swept up and placed in acontainer having walls bottom and a tight cover strong enough to resist tearing or breaking under normal handling conditions The contents of the aforementioned containers shall not be transferred to another container but the container shall be placed directly _ upon a vehicle for disposal at an approved site . All floors will be vacuumed immediately after drying The vacuum clean- er shall contain a strong service disposable inner bag of durable material which shall be removed from the vacuum cleaner and tightly sealed bag shall then be placed in a container which shall thereafter be placed The on vehicle for removal and disposal at an approved site vacu med 5. ci The materials used to form the enclosure shall be thoroughly vacuumed upon complotion of the application of the insulation in the area The entire floor area all ledges and surfaces upon which waste insulation material may vacuumed have fallen shall then be ' closures oe or revacuumed before removal of the en- Enclosures shall not be dismantled until the area has been vacuumed after 24 hours have elapsed since completion of spraying and clean C An enclosure will be considered satisfactory only if visible insulating material cannot escape from the enclosure xX) All areas used for opening of bags containing insulation material and chargincgharging of hoppers shall be enclosed.in such a manner that insulating material cannot escape from the immediate area in which such activity takes place shall be posted outside onclosures warning persons of the hazard ~, SignsSigns without appropriate mask and other apparel of entering the enclosure enclosure involvedinvolved in the spraying of asbestos at the site must be furnished 1 All persons the inhalation of with face masks constructed in a fashion which precludes and must be furnished with suitable coveralls which will asbestos particulates the removal of asbestos from the site be be left left left at at the the the the site and thereby preclude left No person person shall shall shall be permitted in an area in which asbestos spraying or handling taken taken taken placeplace within within a hour period after completion of the spraying and has taken taken referred to in paragraph numbered 5 herein unless such person is cleaning the type described herein wears a face mask and coveralls of ewe ot atte Sle we pe - Mn 8 eae te 6 ome tees 6 teen qamerone yueaelmmeer: eS we ere ete. ere eh at eee te em ene. cab mae se eer mere mae . 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