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Tholstrup, Susan C SCC-HSE <susan.tholstrup@shell.com> Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE <lO=SHELLlOU=MSXSCC/CN=RECI PI ENTS/CN=SC724012>
2004-01-2321 :25:19 GMT FW: SUMMARY OF NEODOL 67 CONFERENCE CALL 21/1/2004
Susan:
For your information.
In addition, for what it is worth, I would like to think this adds to what I would call an effective year for me (including: effective leadership of ACC membership review, moving benzene Shanghai forvl/ard, leading butadiene air issues, support/advice regarding LRI US, appointment to EPA Science Advisory Board and ACGIH TLV committee).
Thanks also for the earlier reassurance.
Safe travels
Stuart
Stuart Cagen
Shell Chem ical LP One Shell Plaza, 910 Louisiana, Houston, TX 77002-4916
Tel: +1 713241 1407 Fax: +1 713241 3325 Other Tel: +1 8326463987 Email: stuart.cagen@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals
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Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH
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Wednesday, January 21 , 2004 10:59 AM
To: Taalman, Rob DFM SC-CHSE-RTN
Cc: Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV; Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE
Subject:
FW: SUMMARY OF NEODOL 67 CONFERENCE CALL - 21/1/2004
Rob - an 'real time 'example of Stuart and Gauke adding value to the HODer business. Julian Heath Product Steward, Higher Olefins and Derivatives Shell Chemicals Limited (SCL) Building 301, Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box1, Chester CH1 3SH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1244685622 Fax: 5142 Email: Julian.Heath@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals
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From:
Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH
Sent:
21 January 2004 16:57
To: Schmidt, Warren WW SCC-CTHOD/2; Van der Meij, Rob CRII; Meyer, Victoria K SCC-HODer;
Hammond, Mike M SCE-CPHO; Naugle, David G SCC-HODer; Johnson, Deborah DAL SCC-CTHOD;
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All,
Klein, Barry J SCC-CTHOD/3; Thomason, Terry B SCC-CTHOD/2 Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE; Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV FIN: SUMMARY OF NEODOL 67 CONFERENCE CALL - 21/1/2004
I attach the summary of a Shell-P&G telecon. this afternoon.
Although anticipated ~ the outcome is still excellent news - the result of great teamwork and the benefits of the superb relationship between the Shell and P&G HSE communities (if we try to forget it was their fault we had to address this issue in the first place).
Happy to discuss further as necessary.
Julian.
Julian Heath Product Steward, Higher Olefins and Derivatives Shell Chemicals Limited (SCL) Building 301, Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box1, Chester CH1 3SH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1244685622 Fax: 5142 Email: Julian.Heath@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals
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From:
Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH
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21 January 2004 16:20
To: 'kern.ps@pg.com'; Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE; 'king.jr.2@pg.com'; Veenstra, Gauke GE
SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE
Subject:
SUMMARY OF NEODOL 67 CONFERENCE CALL - 21/1/2004
All,
As agreed - a bullet point summary of our teleconference this afternoon:
1. Agreed that the hazard classification of NEODOL 67 can remain unchanged i.e. the Shell MSDS will continue to state 'not a skin sensitiser' - this decision is based on the overall weight of evidence including the recent negative results of the HRIPT tests with formulations containing NEODOL 67 and NEODOL 67 sulphate.
The Phosphorous level in NEODOL 67 used as the basis for the formulations tested in the HRIPTs was 47ppm (Shell study) and 110ppm (P&G study).
2. Following the negative results of the HRIPT studies - a permanent relaxation of the Phosphorous spec. in NEODOL 67 to 100ppm can now be fully supported
3. In the absence of a sensitisation response in these studies - the longstanding proposal for a detailed analytical investigation to identify the Phosphorous species in NEODOL 67 is no longer deemed appropriate
4. Assuming relevant business approval - it was agreed the HRIPT study reports (including sufficient details to describe the test samples) will be exchanged in order that both companies can maintain a full record of the work undertaken to address this issue
5. The results of this discussion will be communicated internally as appropriate All comments welcome.
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Petra - I do not have Lester (Leicester ?)'s contact details - trust you will forward.
Julian and Gauke
Julian Heath Product Steward, Higher Olefins and Derivatives Shell Chemicals Limited (SCL) Building 301, Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box1, Chester CH1 3SH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1244685622 Fax: 5142 Email: Julian.Heath@sheILcom Internet: http://www.sheILcom/chemicals
-----Original Message----From: Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH Sent: 20 January 2004 17:27 To: 'kern.ps@pg.com' Cc: Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE; king.jr.2@pg.com; Veenstra, Gauke GE
SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; holder.j@pg.com;
masscheleyn.p@pg.com Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
Okay - I am going to go with:
10:00 EST, 09:00 Houston time, 15:00 UK time and 16:00 Brussels time
Call in number:
+44 (0)207 960 3000 CODE: 7858569#
J.
Julian Heath Product Steward, Higher Olefins and Derivatives Shell Chemicals Limited (SCL) Building 301, Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box1, Chester CH1 3SH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1244685622 Fax: 5142 Email: Julian.Heath@sheILcom Internet: http://www.sheILcom/chemicals
-----Original Message----From: kern.ps@pg.com [mailto:kern.ps@pg.com] Sent: 20 January 200410:47 To: Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH Cc: Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE; king.jr.2@pg.com; Veenstra, Gauke GE
SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; holder.j@pg.com;
masscheleyn.p@pg.com Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
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Fine with me as well. Petra
From: "Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH" <julian.heath@shell.com> on 01/19/2004 04:11 PM GMT
"Heath, Julian JA
To: "Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE"
SCUK-CHSE-JH" <stuart.cagen@shell.com>, Randy King-JR-2/PGI
<julian.heath@shell.com>
Cc: Petra Kern-PS/PGI, "Veenstra, Gauke
GE SC-CHSE-GV" <gauke.veenstra@shell.com>,
"Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE"
01/19/200405:11 PM <susan.antrican@shell.com>, James
Holder-J/PGI, Patrick Masscheleyn-P/PGI
Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
Wow, this is tough...... WEDNESDAY seems to be the day - however, I cannot make the proposed 08:30 EST on Wednesday. I can make it later in the day, but unfortunately, this excludes Randy (I think).
Randy - if we made the call 10:00 EST, 09:00 Houston time, 15:00 UK time and 16:00 Brussels time - any chance of you attending?
Julian. Julian Heath Product Steward, Higher Olefins and Derivatives Shell Chemicals Limited (SCL) Building 301, Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box1, Chester CH1 3SH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1244685622 Fax: 5142 Email: Julian.Heath@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals
-----Original Message----From: Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE Sent: 16 January 2004 15:58 To: king.jr.2@pg.com Cc: kern.ps@pg.com; Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH; Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; holder.j@pg.com; masscheleyn.p@pg.com Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
I would propose 830 am EST on Wednesday 21 Jan
Julian: can you set this up ?
Thanks
Stuart
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Stuart Cagen
Shell Chem ical LP One Shell Plaza, 910 Louisiana, Houston, TX 77002-4916
Tel: +1 713241 1407 Fax: +1 713241 3325 Other Tel: +1 8326463987 Email: stuart.cagen@sheILcom Internet: http://www.sheILcom/chemicals
-----Original Message----From: king.jr.2@pg.com [mailto:king.jr.2@pg.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:46 AM To: Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE Cc: kern.ps@pg.com; Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH; Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; holder.j@pg.com; masscheleyn.p@pg.com Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
Hello, Julian.
I am only available prior to 9 A.M.-EST on Wed., Th. and Fri.
Randy
From: "Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE" <stuart.cagen@sheILcom> on 01/16/2004 02:04 PM GMT
"Cagen, Stuart Z
To: Petra Kern-PS/PGI, "Heath, Julian JA
SCC-HSE" SCUK-CHSE-JH" <julian.heath@sheILcom>
<stuart.cagen@sheILcom>
Cc: Randy King-JR-2/PGI, "Veenstra,
Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV"
<gauke.veenstra@sheILcom>, "Antrican, Susan
01/16/200409:04 AM 0 SCC-HSE" <susan.antrican@sheILcom>, James
Holder-J/PGI, Patrick Masscheleyn-P/PGI
Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
I am available Monday, Tues or Wed, but out Thurs and Fri. Thanks Stuart Stuart Cagen
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Shell Chem ical LP One Shell Plaza, 910 Louisiana, Houston, TX 77002-4916
Tel: +1 713241 1407 Fax: +1 713241 3325 Other Tel: +1 8326463987 Email: stuart.cagen@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals
-----Original Message----From: kern.ps@pg.com [mailto:kern.ps@pg.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:36 AM To: Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH Cc: king.jr.2@pg.com; Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE; Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; holder.j@pg.com; masscheleyn.p@pg.com Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
Any day except tuesday would work for me. Petra
From: "Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH" <julian.heath@shell.com> on 01/16/2004 10:16 AM GMT
"Heath, Julian JA
To: Randy King-JR-2/PGI, "Cagen, Stuart
SCUK-CHSE-JH" Z SCC-HSE" <stuart.cagen@shell.com>, Petra
<julian.heath@shell.com> Kern-PS/PGI, "Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV"
<gauke.veenstra@shell.com>, "Antrican, Susan
o SCC-HSE" <susan.antrican@shell.com>
01/16/2004 11: 16 AM
Cc: James Holder-J/PGI, Patrick
Masscheleyn-PIPG I
Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
My apologies for the late note, but I shall be travelling this afternoon and not available for the call.
Can we try next week? Once again, I am fairly open apart from Friday, but let's go with the majority just to get the discussion going.
Julian. Julian Heath Product Steward, Higher Olefins and Derivatives Shell Chemicals Limited (SCL) Building 301, Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box1, Chester CH1 3SH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1244685622 Fax: 5142 Email: Julian.Heath@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals
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-----Original Message----From: king.jr.2@pg.com [mailto:king.jr.2@pg.com] Sent: 08 January 2004 15: 17 To: Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE Cc: Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH; kern.ps@pg.com; holder.j@pg.com; Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; masscheleyn.p@pg.com Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
Jan. 16 is also OK for me.
Randy
From: "Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE" <stuart.cagen@sheILcom> on 01/07/2004 07:10 PM GMT
"Cagen, Stuart Z
To: "Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH"
SCC-HSE" <julian.heath@sheILcom>, Petra Kern-PS/PGI
<stuart.cagen@sheILcom>
Cc: Randy King-JR-2/PGI, James
Holder-J/PGI, Patrick Masscheleyn-P/PGI,
"Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV"
01/07/200402:10 PM <gauke.veenstra@sheILcom>, "Antrican, Susan
o SCC-HSE" <susan.antrican@sheILcom>
Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
Next week I am only available Friday morning 16 Jan (but not 9 am - 10 am Houston time).
Stuart Cagen
Shell Chem ical LP One Shell Plaza, 910 Louisiana, Houston, TX 77002-4916
Tel: +1 713241 1407 Fax: +1 713241 3325 Other Tel: +1 8326463987 Email: stuart.cagen@sheILcom Internet: http://www.sheILcom/chemicals
-----Original Message----From: Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:24 AM To: kern.ps@pg.com Cc: king.jr.2@pg.com; holder.j@pg.com; masscheleyn.p@pg.com; Veenstra, Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE Subject: RE: HSAS HRIPT- final results
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Petra,
Happy new Year to you too.
I agree - a great start.
Can I try again to arrange a call to review where we are with this issue, conclusions and next steps?
How are availabilities during the week beginning 12th. January (apart from the 12th itself) ?
Julian. Julian Heath Product Steward, Higher Olefins and Derivatives Shell Chemicals Limited (SCL) Building 301, Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box1, Chester CH1 3SH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1244685622 Fax: 5142 Email: Julian.Heath@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals
-----Original Message----From: kern.ps@pg.com [mailto:kern.ps@pg.com] Sent: 06 January 2004 14: 17 To: Heath, Julian JA SCUK-CHSE-JH Cc: king.jr.2@pg.com; holder.j@pg.com; masscheleyn.p@pg.com; Veenstra,
Gauke GE SC-CHSE-GV; Antrican, Susan 0 SCC-HSE; Cagen, Stuart Z SCC-HSE
Subject: HSAS HRIPT- final results
Dear all,
a happy New Year to you all!
Some good news to start the year: This is to let you know that I got the preliminary results back from the lab, and the HRIPT with the high P sample did not show any sign of skin allergy. The test was clean.
The test was done simulating worst case scenario handwash conditions for a product containing up to 10% HSAS (based on the 11 Oppm N67 sample).
The HRIPT supports HSAS usage in typical detergent products. The HRIPT data would not support usage of HSAS in a product considered for extensive pretreatment.
This data will support the permanent release of the P specification for N67. James Holder will be communicating this separately to Warren Schmidt.
Let me know if you have any questions,
kind regards, Petra
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