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1 down there in the 1920s, 1930s in horrible
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1 company, isn't there something out about asbestos,
2 conditions.
2 isn't asbestos dangerous? Yes, it is dangerous under
3 They had kids working down there in these
3 certain conditions, so he got these reports.
4 mills and none of these defendants are here, but it 4 Where did he get them from? He didn't go
5 was known back in the 1930s, mid 1930s that if these
5 back to a vault in Owens-Corning and open it up and
6 people worked around too much asbestos, because they 6 say, uh-huh, here is a secret research.
7 took raw asbestos and weaved it into fabric because it
7
He wrote to Washington, D.C., sent in his 20
8 was fireproofing, these people got the disease
8 cents and said send me a report and they did. Stuff
9 asbestosis.
9 that was known by everybody. Stuff known by the
10
Now, that was known. This was known before
10 union. Yeah, we knew this. People who work with
11 Owens-Coming even went into business.
11 asbestos over a long period of time can get sick.
12 In fact, the Surgeon General of the United
12 Do you know what these reports also said
13 States issued a public health bulletin. It wasn't
13 that they didn't tell you about which I am going to
14 secret.
14 show you throughout the whole trial?
15 In fact, there was reference made in a
15 Through the 1930s on, even back in London,
16 charge about some weapon in reserve that Mr.
16 back in the United States, from the 1930s on it was
17 Shellenberger talked about.
17 known. It was known by labor. It was known by
18
Do you know what he is talking about? He is
18 government and science.
19 talking about this guy Edward Ames who came to Owens- 19
They didn't say ban asbestos. They didn't
20 Corning.
20 say put warnings on asbestos. Here is what they said
21 This man came to Owens-Coming in 1930s, who 21 in the 1930s. Pardon my back.
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1 was a schoolteacher and worked at night and what
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What they said is this -- and I am going to
2 happened early on, and I am giving you an early
2 show you this throughout the whole trial going back
3 perspective in talking about Owens-Corning, the
3 early on.
4 Asbestos Workers Union were responsible in covering 4
Hey, everybody, you people working in those
5 pipes and we came out with a new product called
5 asbestos textile factories, if you put in ventilation
6 fiberglass.
6 and keep the dust down, you won't get this disease
7 If any of you know about fiberglass and I
7 asbestosis, because it is like coal miners disease.
8 know because I worked with my dad, he is a plumber, it 8
I grew up using coal putting it in, and I
9 is real itchy and they have got a piece of fiberglass
9 was exposed to dust. The guys in my neighborhood
10 pipecovering over here. I don't think we made this.
10 because I am from the northeastern part of
11 We made stuff like this to go around pipes back in the 11 Pennsylvania, the coal region, there was dust in the
12 1930s.
12 mines and they had black lung because they worked with
13 Well, the Asbestos Workers Union said we are 13 tons of it.
14 not going to work with that. That stuff is
14 They said the same thing here. If you keep
15 dangerous. You got to be kidding me. It itches. We 15 the dust down, you won't get asbestosis. They didn't
16 are going to work with asbestos.
16 say ban it, don't use it. That was the thinking back
17 If you want us to put that stuff up, it is
17 then. It is not the thinking now.
18 going to cost you a dollar more an hour. You say a
18
No, not now, because now we know in 1996,
19 dollar more an hour. Go back to 1938. That would
19 and I am saying we know in 1996,1 know in 1996
20 virtually have put us out of business.
20 because I read the medical textbooks.
21
This guy Edward Ames, I just came with the
21
Some of their doctors that they are going to
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