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KISS CRAIG TEHTATIVE AGENDA ADVISORT EDUCATIOHAL GROUP Dcamber 30, 1947 10I00 a.n. Recent Developments in the Company's Health end Welfare Program Dr. Armstrong 10:20 a.n. Progress is School Health Bureau Activities - Kiss Craig 10:30 a.m. Group I What is our place.in the health education of teachers today? Dr. Ryan, Chairman; Kr. Bracken, Hr. Roberts, Visa Craig Group II Row can we help develop new opportunities for learning . in health education? Hiss Williamson, Chairman; Hiss Abbot, Dr.'-Turner, Hisa SeftcB, Hiss Hallock ' Group HI Bov can as strengthen our relationships with professional groups? Hibb lean. Chairman; Dr. Sutton, Dr. Williams, Dr. Wheatley, Mr. Jones ^ 11:00 a.n. Summary of Group I Discussion - Dr. Rysn SuBnaz7 of Group H Discussion - Hiss Williamson Summary of Group III Discussion - Hiss Jean 11:30 a.n. Study on Absentee Sickness Records v"' In California - Kr. Bracken In Canada - Hr. Roberts 12:00 Boon 12:13 p.a. 12:30 p.a. Development of Haterial on School fiivironnent - Dr. Turner lev Developments in Education in Industrial Hygiene - Dr. Lanza Cooperation betveen the Schools and Agents and Hanagers - Dr. Wheatley 12:43 p.a. ^ 2:15 P.b. 2:30 p.a. Luncheon: Implications of Population Trends as They Affect the SchoolAge Population - Dr. Dublin Be Tour Age - Film Shoving Discussion - Or. Turner 3:15 p.m. Discussion --. . / ADVISOR! EDUCATIONAL GROUP December 30, 1947 MINUTES DR. ARMSTRONG: Ladles and gentlemen, we are all here who are expected except two; Hiss Jean and Dr. Sutton are coning. I think that in view of the fact that it is a little after 10 the School Bureau has advised the usual exhausting progran and we had better get underway. I am waxy glad that we have had such a nunber of enters of the Committee that are In attendance. I an sorry that there are three nenbers that could net be here. Dr. Williams was expected but a talegran was received stating that it was due to the store, father Cooper is tied up with nestings. Dr. Shepard did not feel quite up to making the trip due to his partial disability. We are especially glad to welcone lliss Williams as a nenber of the Advisory Educational Group; at least it is the first nesting which we have the privilege of having her attend in that capaeity. Z expect she is much more comfortable at that end of the table. Z usually want to say a word about the general work of the Division. We are running along our curtunaxy channels and with no. substantial changes in content or direction. Our nursing activities for policyholders, industrial, group, and lanedlate policyholders continues.' This year, the volune running somewhat ahead of lest. At the end of 11 months there is a increase in the total number of visits given policy holders. During the year we made quite an effort to curtail certain of the most expensive centers; in small communities where you cannot keep a nurse busy. Supervision is expensive; you get the half trained nurse. We have terminated service in a lot of such places. The exact nunber, around 50 or 60. There will be nore in the coning year. We expect to save quite a bit of money there. We estimate saving $375,000 In a period of two years. In spite of those savings our volume and cost increased about 10, amounting this year to about $3,557,000 r. -2- nuraing service; to give a total number of 1,800,000 visits. Some of you, Dr. rurner, Dr. Ryan, Uisa Jean, and Dr. Sutton, Kill date back in this Committee when ire made a visit pay for a visit at the cost of about 80 or 90 cents a visit. It started at 50 cents a visit. How it is about $2. It makes one wonder how far one can go. The volume went up about 4$ in total, mainly due to maternity visits due to a high birth rate. Other visits are way down comparatively - 12 to 15$ under last year, reflecting very excellent health conditions. Morbidity has been at a low level, especially for acute conations which we primarily nurse. At the present time the whole picture is unusually favorable. The only cloud I know of on the horizon is during the last three or four weeks we had an outbreak of influenza in Los Angeles. However, practially no mortality, a wide indldence, a very low morbidity rates The virus identification has hot yet been made. Dr. Shepard said it will be another 5 or 6 days before it is identified. It means those that were immunised against-a or b stand a chance of being disappoint!. We have not advocated immunisation for that reason. Thera would be time to immunize everyone with a or b if there waa a need. Immunity ia squired within 7 to 10 daye. There is also an outbreak of cue fever, another virus disease. It is very widespread but not very large numbers. It is scattered throughout the country. Thoae ere the only things I know of on the morbidity situation that are arising. In the literature field we have gone ahead as usually with our program through regular channels, through our Agents and Managers, through our Group insured industries and, of course, our schools and health departmenta. Our total distribution will be in the neighborhood of $7,000,000, which was about what it was lsst year. Thsre has been a number of new publications. TOUR flurra has bean revised. INFORMATION FOR EXPECTANT MOTHERS HAS been revised. COOK BOOS has been revised. It is of interest to our Field staff. We published quite a bit of material in connection with our heart film, which ia now in use. / -3Zou will see the film today. We have a new publication on BLOOD PRESSURE. We have a new one on HEART DISEASE; a new publication with general inforoation of induatrial management; the services in industrial hygiene and safety; a revision of ENOW ZOOR FOODS. COIfliON CHUJHOOD DISEASES has been extremely popular. We could not neet the demand because of the paper shortage. We could only offer them to Agents and Managers. They should be made available in schools. When we get the stock, we can do more. 12 AMERICAN HEALTH HEROES is an outstanding publication and particularly the SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR. Hiss Craig will talk about the school publications. In regard to films, we have had an unusually good year. When we talk about literature we say we distributed about the same amount as last year. We are not afraid of ruantity when it comes to films. The more people that see our films, the better off we are. The printing coste are cheaper with regards to films. I can say our film showing! went up 100% this year. Our pictures were seen by 2,500,000 people last year. This year they were seen by 5,000,000 people. Our contributing factor was the release of the picture on HEART DISEASE. It ie the most popular as far as theaters go. We have only enough prints and staff for handling its distribution on a limited basis in selected areas. We offered it first in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, then in New England, Indiana end two or three others. It was released to theaters in about 8, 9, or 10 States. In one or two States the theaters used it enough to pass tbs peak, so that we could offer it to health departments, schools, etc. This record is almoat altogethsr in theaters. The first few months it was released it was seen by over 2,000,000 'people, which is a very satisfactory record. We have bad excellent reports as to audlenoe reaetion. Tbs other factor .is the release of our safety picture, ONCE UPON A TINE, the color cartoon. Zou would expect it to be out of use, but for some reason it la still unusually good. It was produced in 1934 and is more popular than it has been for several years; partly due to the emphaaie being put on traffic safety and automobile accidents due to the President's safety campaign, the National Safety Counoil, association of Chief of Police and the Metropolitan. On the whole that baa been rather gratifying in a way that our picture is quite the nost popular next to our heart picture. We hare during the year placed special eaphasis on heart disease with quite gratifying results in terms of cooperation and use of our naterials. It is impossible to aay in terms of results. lou can't say that on a Halted campaign. Tou can't say what effect it has. The reaction to our program with cooperation from the American Heart Association has been very good. Our own Field staff has taken a hold of it in a gratifying way and are active in arranging meetings, using films, getting local doctors to talk to clubs, use of radio statements. Of course, the other branches of the Compa*ny have timed their activities to fit in with this. .1 mentioned the use of our traffic film that has influenced our safety. Ibis year compared with last is not an unfavorable one. It isn't any too good compared to last. There was a 2%% increase. Take 1941 compared with 1947 as regards to automobile fatalities. There has been an increase in mileage; an increase in automobile use since 1941 by 14f Peppla are apparently driving with more caution than before the war. As regards to campaign interests for the future, Dr. Wheatley may be saying something about that. We pick out one thing for the year. This year it was haart disease. Next year we are going to concentrate on child heelth with special reference to child safety. Already Dr. Wheatley end others have arranged with excellent cooperation from the Children's Bureau and the Academy of Pediatrics in such a campaign. We are preparing materials, advertise ments, spot broadcasts, etc., and the School Bureau will do as much of that as they can. On asearcb, the Company Interests there continue. As you know, we are doing a little less than in the past on our own. We are continuing some contributions to such agencies as American Cancer Society for research, the / -5- American Heart Association, and some work is bain; done in the diabetes field, particularly with Sr. Dublin's contacts and other minor things. He make contributions annually to State tuberculosis demonstration programs that Hr. Demy is interested in. Our main interest is in the medioal life insurance research fund. It is made up of 51 Life insurance Companies, to a total of $00,000, all of which is devoted to research and cardio-vascular field. Our contribution is $7,000. Sr. Dublin will tell you the morbidity rate promises to be the best we ever had. He had outstanding declines in maternal cases, pneumonia and tuberculosis. Automobile accidents have dropped. It is a very gratifying situation which we cannall feel we had some part in contributing to tha picture. Costs I mentioned under nursing. I might also add our total costs this year-as compared with last showed some increases, largely in the nuralng aide. Total costs in 1947 wert 13% ovtr our costs for 1946. He have set our budget approved for 1948 at a figure, approximately the same as our 1947 expenses, running around $4,980,000. Tha School Bureau budget for 1948 is set up at $54,500, which ii an 8J( increase over last year. MISS JEAHt Does that cost include the expenses of publications} SB. ARMSTRONG So, it includes cost of operations, staff, etc. Tour always interested to know in brief about the statua of the Company as a whole} the business angle.' I thlfak one can say the Company in s business way is in a healthy condition. Ha have had investments with regards to two or three yardsticks in the year. It is anticipated that Company aseeta will amount to $8,500,000,000 at the end of this year, which is about l&if of the total of f the Company insurance assets, that total being $51,500,000,000. The amount of insurance in force ie estimated to be in the neighborhood of $37,000,000,000, which is 19& of sll ths insurance in force in the country. Our total number of policyholders. Sr. Dublin wrote a book of a family of 30 million, bub it ia now 32,300,000. Those figures are indicative of the growth of the organisation. I wan to add, although X overran my time, that are welcoae kiss Williamson to the Coaalttee. We told you l&at year how auch we expect and that we would nisa we her. I aust say' that la an underestimate. Last year were fortunate to carry on with confidence and we knew the work would be carried on satisfactorily. The lady os ay right has deaonstrated in that regard, kiss Craig has taken over in an amiable fashion which you all know. She has been handicapped by lack of staff. We have not bees able to find a replacement for an assistant. X hope you are helping her to look. We should fill that as soon as we can. We have succeeded in adding a satisfactory person to the.staff of our Editorial unit. Or. Lanza was able to add to his Staff of the Industrial Hygiene Bureau an important addition; a plysiciai especially trained in industrial hygiene. He is an excellent nan who 'will join us the first of the year. We are very fortunate in being able to sake that arrangeaent now to eoapensate for the impending loss of Or. Lanza'a full attention. In arrangement has been msde whereby part of his time will be loaned to New lork University, so that he may head up that new important division of industrial health in the greatly expanding medical aohool program, and Dr. Lanza will give part of his time next year. After that all of his time. I think, ladies and gentlemen, that's all. X have taken more time than X should. DR. IURHEEU The Company has discontinued free medical examinations of policy holders. Was that because we did not get enough health benefit to make it worthwhile. DR. ARkSTBONQi X tMA there may have bean some skepticism. I think it was done partly as a measure of economy; also that the pioneer job or demonstration on the part of the Company and others had been done. Health examinations were quite new and facilities were available to few. Insurance companies did go into that. Since that time, there were a great variety of facilities and more emphasis was being placed on medical societies. Extensive medical examinations / -7- s have beta set up for school children, industrial age groups, eto. through a variety of channels. The opportunities for examinations and those who wish then have inoreased so that the Company felt we reached a point. DR. TURNER: We have no experience as to whether mortality rates were better because of the health examinations have we? DR. DUBLIN: We Bade two studies, they both show very favorable results} results that could sot be explained on any other basis than the examination. I think it would be a mistake to say that our reaction was skepticism. Tou must have caught from Dr. Armstrong's remark that money does not grow on trees. One of the major factors is the financial matter involving us in very serious needs of economy. The country had caught up with the need for physical examinations, and the Company saw that money could be saved. HISS JEAN: ire figures available as to the number who took advantage of the examinations? DR. DUBLIN: i very small number: She figures were always low? 500,000 a year; it was something like 3? It cost a let of money. Nevertheless there were always a limited mmber of persons who took advantage of the examinations. KISS JEAN: Isn't that significant in Itself? DR. DUBLIN: Zes, lack of interact. DR. ARMSTRONG: I would Ilka to pass on to Miss Craig' report. HISS CRAIG'S REPORT DR. ARMSTRONG: Thank you Hiss Crsig, you set a very good example for ms. I mentioned the budget of the School Bureau. The printing ooata of the Bureau ere roughly $130,000. I think we have in the budget $20,000 or $25,000 for filma end film strips end $1,000 for exhibits. I am not sure we will epend it ell. I em not sure we hare the staff to develop it. It makes the total budget about $130,000. I would Ilka to add that Hiss Craig has bed the usual continuing excellent aid end support of Hr. Jones, Hiss Sefton, end other aembers of the Staff, GkOU? I iinutes of is our PLr.cs i:; the iHaLIH of fIa-h-idr:- today? advisor? Educational Group Heetiug ^eceabsr "0, 1947 MISS CRaIG: "s hava distributed some 75,930 copies of Homograph 15. The Pacific Coast reported, tremendous response. Ihe South was mostly neglected. DR. RIbN: Health education groups didn't tend to it. They finally got it. >'.'e should be sura --a have enough on hand. >411 th=re be enough demand for it? HISS Cf-alG: Ce raid about 35,030. ?-e1 ve used about 75,00J. Hr. Roberts: Do you Enow tie distribution in Canada? MR. ROBERTS: Jr. Phillips is asking a coaplete surrey of teacher training across Canada. HISS CRAIG: He would be delighted to supply him with any number. HR. SRaCKEl: -Chat type of distribution has taken place with resoect to public school superintendents. I kno?/ ohat copies were sent to many superintendents. ttlSo CRaIu: It w&3 announced in the school adninistrator. HR. BRaCKEN: One of the best levels for use of the publication would be that of the eleientary school principal but re still haven't the teacher included. It would seem to me that a general nailing to school principals would be worthwhile, liever under estimate the power of the elementary school principal. HR. ROBERTS: Did you have a discussion with Cr. Phillips? HISS CRaIG: I talked with Dr. Phillips rhea it*was in its nineogr&'hed form. HR. ROBERTS: I would like to sae it come into the Province of Quebec. If super intendents are very cooperative it might be that some sort of arrangement fortrans lation be made. It would probably be through Dr. Phillips office. HISS CRAIGS Iru would recommend a reprint for another supoly? DR. RIAN: It seems inevitable. MR. BRACKEN: You would 'nave the feel of this thing better than wewould as to the number of copies, tnerefore, ve wouldn't rant to recommend it. DR. E-AN: The fact that we would explore the need seems very real, '.hat _e snould report on is getting the elementary teacher ia the :icture. It?.. hRn.CKE.is Jnder tr.e direction of the conference t.ne details have been handled. I have to rely on Hiss Craig for details. dISd CRAIG: The Coordinating Committee net with the Planning Committee and rec- omendations the Coordinating Committee made were taken into consideration in the afternoon meeting. That group went ahead and outlined the budget and outlined the nost probable groups to participate in it. Letters were sent to members of the National Conference and member agencies tellin.; a little bit of the possible budget. Replies are coming in now. DR. RIAN! Did the total budget stand *5900? MISS CRalGi The Planning Committee met once again prior to the National Conference nesting in Washington and discussed details further. They talked about possible people and possible agencies to participate in the meeting. Miss Randle presented the whole report to the National Conference. The National Conference is considering plans and recommend participation of Metropolitan Ins. Co. financially if pos sible. It night possibly help if we get each member agency to contribute. DR. RIAN: T`e don't think it would be right. The Metropolitan has handled three of these and that is sufficient. ,R. BhaCKENt This is the time for it to be done. The going is tough. It has to be takAn up some time. MR. ROBERTS* Do you tnink 70U could include as a guest Dr. Phillips and the National Eonference group? .IF.. .BRaCKSS* It would be nice to invite that group. MR. ROBERTS! Dr. Phillips is the Director of Research------------------------------------ tliS CRAIG* I tnink it is a fine suggestion. DR. RIAN* We ought to have much mors to resume contacts before the rar. :p * * `PHSEPTS t TDi r* Phillips could make arrangements and that organisation be represented. -3- D.-- RYAH: Taat we also should find out are <'.hat things, If any, re oucht to sug gest the possiblity of the School Heihr. Bureau cooperating i.i. fISo CRalG: There are certain things taat the School Bureau couli do in the field ox" teacher education and I think oernaps ire night make some---------froa this group. This really just comers the problems that are so obvious in our correspondence. a11 tnese problems are there. Dr- EYAM: SVhat is tnis proposed demonstration study in health teaching in colleges. HISS GRaIGi Just to bring up to date the American Association for Teachers in College's five-year stidy on teacher education. The;,- came in here with representa tives of cancer, T.c. in the possibility of getting financial help. They made urrangcjients and had a fine meeting. Mr. Hager doesn't think there is much help for such a tremendous project. HR. BRACKIN'i I would rather develop the idea that the project might be more effectiveff if it were carried on a les3 expensive basis. The figures stated rould be out of this educational world. The project for scholarship is tremendously expensive. MISS CRaIG; You can't get it for health education. Jr.. BRACKS)! That talng is set up on this kind of basis. Dr. Cook is a professional at Bayne University. `hat outs down his time. He has recognition and standing immediately. He has more t.:an if he represented the national Conference for Christians and Jews. If this could be set up in school it might set fire. The State Health Service money is going into State Teachers College right nor. DR. RYAHi Are you acquainted with this movement to train health ddueators. IR. BRaCKEHi Do 70U know what has happened to that thing down in Peabody College. Henry Hill wrote that Itmight be some of the local Lifa insurance conpanies that ***** were interested in this asking for material to use in regard t-.at he was going to present to them. TIBS CRUG: Dr. Armstrong would be glad to see him men he comes to B.Y .'-15.. oRaG'uSIx I and no ilea that this Conpony was expecting in any way to be involved. OR. HTASx George Peabody trains all over the South. It would be a very good place oo settle on soaet-iing. MR. ciuvCrCS'i: There ought to be enough local interest, there. mZ.IS CF_aIG: Thy should we give to one person and not to another and that is why we stick: to national groups. EIANi That is the only institution I believe that does not do anything else except train college teachers. uur problem is to find that things that this Bureau could be urged to help. ME. ERACEENj henry sent a letter and he was making the point that it was health ressardh that had helped Increase -.rell-being and longevity ana I tried to tell him that he was riding the wrong horse. OR. BTANx Has anybody recently tried to put down the tning that ought to go down into healtn teaching. MISS CRiIGt I don't believe sol DR. RlANt hobody knows yet shat is beind dona here for teachers to know health or shat the health educators are doing. MR. BRACKENt This conference that we are trying to get 5900 for would bear directly on that. aISs CRAIGt The print is to define the functions ER, RTANx tTe don't live uputo the requirements in out state In health education. UR. EOBERSSx Chat is the study of motivation in health education so much of our health teaching is surely based upon. I have been Tendering if the study of . motivation could help us. DR. RTaNx Would the Metropolitan be interested in cutting a little money into special adjunct into that and try to pull together on what really constitutes edu cation of teachers in health. If the conferences got going and were aole to settle it would it be possible to get help in expending that. The Metropolitan as its -5- oarticular contribution in training of teachers might be wilting to contribute. Having cone up with this t group of specialists ~ould sit down and outline ivhat is the right tning for teachers to get in college. 7a night be able to hit oif cer tain t. lings. IX. BFjiCKQJi That would be an expansion of 7:hat we have used in the final section and perhaps making it the first part of the book. D.;.. 5IA3: That would come Wttft after the conference------------ --if at that conference t'vre were several people rho Isew if that ~ere possible. :R. ERACKSt IMA Do you intend to break that down to groups. Dr. Ryan: Dying to find out where we were an it. HR. ERAC'ir.U The only thing tnat we have is to recommend a reprint and talk about this expansion of the teacher project In service training and to mention at our health project which is in the state of BM*---- *-- at the sonant. Teacher project sug gesting that we get into objection of teacher education in health. Recognition is increased eaphasls on the education in the teaching project. DR. RIANj Re might sa7 in con.iection with this conference that the -`atropoll tan contribution might emphasize the teacher education outcomes of this conference. HIES CRAIGi Xou can do that through preparation of materials, film strips, con ferences, ete. DR. ElAiU ilcGraw-Hill has serias of films, C550 worth, intended for teacher training to show how schools are conducted. Those who have seen them say they are very superior. Sould it be worthwhile exploring the possibllties in connection with our film material. Could we do that. 'iTISS CRAIGt Teacher Observationa of SquooI Children used in service. DR. RIAH: Is it possible to see whether health education is adequately being taken care of in that. JISS CRAIGi Find out where we fit in. 8* I think that rather than asking if 70U have questions on kiss Craig's report we go ahead. I suggest that you read the fine mimeographed statement you have before you; a review of the whole story in which you may find answers to the questions you have. We are behind schedule. C310UP DISCUSSIONS: Group II - Hiss Williamson, Chairman lass WILLIAMSON: is usual. Kiss Gehhardt and lliss Craig did a fine job of organizing and summarizing this report. We will start in with the first one on the child health museum. I had a satisfactory conference with Dr. Jansen, and he made suggestions for schools to visit. He is Interested in working with ua. I saw him with a combined problem of child health museums and gifted children. Of course, he said that the first thing was to find a good teacher who was interested who would work with the students. He suggested that we make a demonstration first and have it simpler than we planned. Remember last year we suggested dioramas relating to the HEALTH HEROES SERIES. He pointed out that this required a special skill. Later in twinwg with a high school teacher, a teacher of English not in New fork City, who was using records and animated figures. She felt that it might be a good beginning. She said the high school students were using animated figures for plays. We took Pasteur for example. We CQuld have figures of the people in the life of Pasteur. She said it was easy to get turntables to make them move; also as we talked I thought of HOW OLD ARE 100. I heard about the exhibit. I thought that might be a good suggestion with imagination to stimulate them with moving figures pointing out difference in sizes. HISS ABBOT 1 That would be very visual. HISS HALLOCK: Tea, they are using paper macha. They are going to have transparency; looking through and lighted. Hr. Bigney ia good on that sort of t.M ng / -9- 'o MISS WILLIAMSON: I think if we find the gifted teacher and then furaiah the materials it would be good. The next is BIOGRAPHICAL AND SCIENTIFIC MATERIAL IN HEALTH TEACHING. MISS HALLOCE: The principle thing was to get some teacher who would work with classes in getting supplementary material on the HEALTH HEROES SERIES, who could perhaps develop or do a thorough revision. There was a question of the author. OR. TURNER: la this the sort of thing Or. Bailey started. MISS HALLOCE: Tee, I worked on it some and then Mr. McCarthy. MISS WILLIAMSON: Ve did consider having units or leaflets to accompany it. UR. TURNER: Have a leaflet for chapters. MISS WILLIAMSON: Tie it up with something current. OR. TURNER: I think that ia practical. I think a teacher would like a unit procedure in connection with each life than having all of them combined. MISS HALLOCE: It would be cheaper to do it that way. MISS ABBOT: It would be concrete and alive to have eaoh one have one than having a general one. MISS HALLOCE: Would the idea be to send one copy of the suggestions to each teacher requesting each HEALTH HERO? MISS WILLIAMSON: Then we have the child growth end development monograph. Dr. Turner will you take that over? Then we have the Health Hero on Welch, which Mies Hellock will write whan she has tins. MISS HALLOCE: That would bs a good post retirement project. whan MISS WILLIAMSON: We recommend that Mies Hellock retires, she be employed full tins. Vs recommend the publication of a HEALTH HERO on Welch when we have time. Next we have A LIST OF SOURCE MATERIALS. Miss Sefton, do you wish to discuss this? IQSS SEFTON: The suggestions are being organised in final stage to eend to the Committee -10- & DR. TURNER: It is a very extensive and carefully prepared document, possibly a bit too long. Re hope some sill suggest some deletions to make it smaller. I thihk it is a splendid piece of material. MISS WILLIAMSON: Next we have POSTER BIASING IN SCHOOLS. Bliss Sefton, I believe you are working on that. MISS SE7T0N: It is in a discussion stage. I have been visiting schools and seeing poster making. It is a matter of revision in light of newer trends. We get a constant demand for poster making material. MISS HALLOCS: Were you going to recommend that we print it instead of mimeographing it. MISS SEFTON: I think it should be made attractive. MISS HILLOCK: Tea, with some illustrations. MISS ABBOT: Then would there be comments getting certain principles of poster making. The illustrations could say what the principles were. mSS HALLOCK: las, you could give a good and bad illustration. Why the good one was good, etc. mSS SEFTON: I think it would be good to show progress in poster making through the grades; to show more art principles. Have some illustrative material of certain ones. mSS HALLOCK: We have it in the budget under miscellaneous, but for 1949 we could include it in the budget for a printed job. Perhaps we could get the mimeographed edition out this year. mss WILLIAMSON:' Do you wish. Dr. Turner, to discuss the NATURE OF BACTERIA? DR. TURNER: I think the story is well covered. We did spend some time going over the possibilities. We think a useful picture could he made. We wondered if we could use the animated technique. MISS WILLIAMSON: Could that work in with the museum idea? Do you think something might grow out of that? 1 -11- I V' DR. TURNER: I haven't thought of the museum Idea. HISS WILITAtfSON? is the museum we could have motion pictures. The American Museum of Natural History could house it. May we leave that to you Dr. Turner. *ISS WILLIAMSON: HEAT TEACHERS DO is under your Subcommittee too Dr. Turner. Are there any suggestions you wish to make? MISS ABBOT: Of course if you have WHAT TEACHERS SEE, the next one on what teachers do is confusing. It seems with all the doing. I don't know if I am making oyself dear. IQSS WILLIAMSON1 What would you suggest that we do with that. We never do get to the fifth grade level. MISS ABBOT. It seams to be that they see and then start their responsibility. mSS HALLOCK: It is rather a different subject. DR. TURNER: That's the point that strikes me. If they don't see something in the first film, they will do something about it in the second. mSS ABBOT: I wonder if we need to relay it to fifth grade children. It seems WHAT TEACHERS SEE ought to have a follow up as well as WHAT TEACHERS DO. mSS SEPTON: Keep it lower elementary grade, am the other is general. DR. TURNER: Which sort of thing would be in here? MISS WILLIAMSON: Do you remember our bulletin, BOW OLD ARE YOU? This is the one we slways skip. DR. TURNER: Is this a film atrip on fifth grade interesta in which we preaent the nature of the child at that age level, his present growth level, what his interests are? HISS HALLOCKx I think varying ratea in growth and development is what they want to get over. I suppose the problems that would arise wopld be those connected with the child who looks older than he is. DR. TURNER: It is really individual differences at the fifth grade level. MISS ABBOT : That makes a difference. It isn't going back to the other booklet. -12- DR. TURNER: When you see these two things listed, WHAI TEACHERS SEE and what i3 TEACHERS DO, you get into a problem isn't individual differences. I was completely off the track until you explained. If this bad said individual differences I would have known what we were at. 1ISS ABBOT: We could take the fifth grade as typical. UISS SIFTON: You could change your title to. WHAI TEACHERS DO ABOUT INDIVIDUAL DUPERENCES. HISS HALLOCK: I think the idea was to find an intelligent teacher and take her children, and in any class of about 30 children you find the differences. mSS ABBOT: There is an interesting article in CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. A beginning teacher is talking to her Aunt, and she begins by saying, "Stella doesn't fit into any one group.* This article is just what we are talking about now. DR. TURNER: I think WHAI TEACHERS DO regarding individual differences makes it clear. MISS ABBOT: I don't quite see the pictures. Don't you want something in the pictures to show how she meets them. DR. TURNER: Say wa have about \ doten that are quite different. Pictures would show child No. 1 doing this end out of it we get a community of interests; also a refleotion of different approaches from ttlW these children. lOSS ABBOT: We could show where certain activities did not make any difference. KISS HALLOCK: Of course nutrition would come in. Tour script could carry over what the pictures don't. mSS WIT.I.TARSON: The School and College Library is next. A list of questions will be sent. I think we can lat that go. It has bean brought up before. We can continue along the same lines with our exhibits. Of course the aocldent prevention is important. I think we should talk about transcriptions. USS ABBOT: Is enough being dons to develop attitudes es well ae information. They are having courses on teaching children how to drive. -13- / tf- BE. TOSHER: Teaching bow to drive an automobile without the attitude la not very IMpaWHUtt good. MISS HILLOCK: lira. White ia doing an S-page leaflet that we are doing for the im~m health campaign. I think aha would be a good peraon to help with the development of thin material. Our leaflet will be addreased to parents, but I think for all the other thinga aha haa a good underatanding of the attitude. HISS ABBOT: I have felt that the relationship of the home ia important in connection with WHAI TEACHERS SEE. I always think of Dr. William's reaction "I waa glad I wasn't a teacher when we had to do that." DR. TURNER: I have two suggestions. They don't have to be brought up at the group discussion, but perhaps Visa Craig and her Staff would like to consider ttem. 1. Might it be possible to develop a teaching unit on school environment following the development of that material on ways to use the aohool environment in teaching health. MISS ABBOT: That's so important. Tou might have immovable furniture and teachers. MISS WILLIAMSON: I think we should mention it. Probably after the aohool environment report. that MISS WILLIAMSON: Could this group recommend further exploration of the development of transcriptions and television be made. IB. TURNS: My other suggestion ia should we look into the feasibility of a unit on self medication. Maybe we could not do it in tbs Metropolitan. May be we insure a lot of people who use things that are sold. Isn't there a lack of adequate teaching notarial in that area? MISS WILLIAMSON: I doubt if there ia anything. MISS HALLOCK: It goes in the textbook uaually.