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Scott Trial Testimony September 3, 1987 1 still true today, is it not? 7TT6 2 A Yes, as much as it can be, you know, living 3 900 miles apart. 4 5 MR. CRAWFORD: Thank you. Your Honor , 6 we have a few exhibits to offer if we could. 7 We have got 2811C, which are the 3 records of Dr. Spencer. We have got 2821A, 9 which are the Bloomington Hospital records. 10 We have got 2827A, which is a report from 11 the National Jewish Hospital on April 13th 12 and then we would also offer these three 13 exhibits which we have just made reference 14 to and that's 2397A, B and C. 15 THE COURT: All right. Any further 16 questions? 17 MR. CRAWFORD: Thank you. 18 MR. POHL: No, Your Honor. 19 THE COURT: All right. Mr. Toon, you 20 may stand down. 21 Ladies and gentlemen, the Court is 22 going to instruct the jury in regard to the 23 testimony by video depositions and 24 depositions of Dr. Wright, Dr. Paul Wright. 25 The Court made a ruling yesterday after HARTOLDMONOO11450 2T 1 the plaintiffs had attempted to offer the 2 deposition of Dr. Paul Wright over the 3 objections of the defendant that it would be 4 admitted. 5 Then during the offering of the 6 deposition it appeared that Dr. Wright was 7 taking what is known as the Fifth Amendment, 8 that he refused to give testimony. 9 So, the Court could not see any purpose 10 in continuing that deposition after 11 inquiring of counsel if his answer to all of 12 the questions that they had asked, which was 13 some six or seven or eight questions, I 14 don't remember how many -it was, maybe less 15 than that, but several questions. 16 The Court then reversed his ruling and 17 said that we would sustain the defendant' s 18 objections to the offering of this testimony 19 by Dr. Wright and would grant their request 20 to suppress the deposition. 21 Out of an abundance of fairness, the 22 Court has been advised that there was some 23 testimony given by the witness to which he 24 did not assert a Fifth Amendment right and 25 gave some testimony. HARTOLDMONOO11451 1 The Court feels that although the 2 deposition may not be of too much 3 significance, that the jury should be able 4 to weigh and consider the deposition for 5 whatever it might be worth in regard to this 6 case. 7 And the deposition as the Court 8 understands offered by the plaintiffs over 9 the objections of the defendant for the 10 purpose of showing Dr. Wright's relationship 11 to Monsanto and the knowledge that Monsanto 12 had as to the test work which Dr. Wright had 13 done. 14 So, we are going to permit the 15 plaintiffs to reoffer or offer such 16 deposition testimony of Dr. Wright by video 17 or question and answer as they wish to 18 offer . 19 And we will also permit counsel to 20 state the number of questions that they have 21 asked Dr. Wright and the questions. 22 You may read the questions to which he 23 asserted his constitutional right of not 24 answering. 25 All right. You may proceed. HARTOLDMONOO11452 2TT9 1 The record will reflect that the 2 defendant has made objections to this 3 testimony and they have a running objection. 4 All right. 5 MR. MUSSLEWHITE: Your Honor, to save 6 time, I'm simply going to say that we will 7 not rerun the video portion that we ran 8 yesterday. The jury has already seen it 9 about his background, when he went with 10 Monsanto then went with IBT and then back 11 with Monsanto. 12 There's no reason to repeat that and we 13 are just going to ask two questions and read 14 the answers and that's it. Your Honor . 15 THE COURT: All right,, ' 16 17 MR. MUSSLEWHITE: "QUESTION: You knew 18 at the time you were a manager of toxicology 19 at Monsanto that Monsanto was continuing to 20 use the IBT test results that pertained to 21 Monsanto1s Aroclor products in an effort by 22 Monsanto to forestall various government 23 regulations designed to limit the discharge 24 of RGBs into the environment? 25 "ANSWER: On my attorney's advice, I HARTOLDMONOO11453 TTUTT 1 hereby invoke the rights secured to me by 2 the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the 3 U.S. Constitution and respectfully refuse to 4 answer that question on the grounds that any 5 information I give in response may tend to 6 incriminate me. 7 "QUESTION: Dr. Wright, when you had an 3 interchange with the EPA about causing them 9 to forestall their regulations limiting the 10 discharge of PCBs into the environment, you 11 knew at that time that the IBT Aroclor 12 studies both understated and misrepresented 13 the toxic effects of PCBs on rodents; isn't 14 that true? ' 15 "ANSWER: On my attorney's advice, I 16 hereby invoke the rights secured to me by 17 the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the 18 U.S. Constitution and respectfully refuse to 19 answer that question on the grounds that any 20 information I give in response may tend to 21 incriminate me." 22 23 MR. MUSSLEWHITE: That concludes it. 24 Your Honor. 25 THE COURT: All right. What else do HARTOLDMONOO11454 TTST 1 you have? Do you have something to add? 2 MR. JONES: Yes, sir, Your Honor. 3 THE COURT: All right, Mr. Jones . 4 MR* JONES: Your Honor, in light of the 5 Court's ruling, I would like to read at 6 least a small portion of Paul Wright's 7 deposition. 8 That portion which begins on Page 18, 9 line 20. And this was an objection that I 10 made as counsel for Monsanto, prior to, 11 right after the first invocation of the 12 Fifth Amendment by Paul Wright. 13 MR. MUSSLEWHITE: Excuse me, Your 14 Honor. May I interpose this? He's about to 15 read an objection, not a question. And we 16 object to him reading his objections. I 17 don't mind him making the objection to, His 18 Honor, but to read it from the deposition 19 seems superfluous. 20 THE COURT: I think that's appropriate . 21 No need of you reading your objection. 22 MR. JONES: Your Honor, the only thing 23 that I was going to state in connection with 24 that deposition was that I as counsel for 25 Monsanto requested Dr. Wright to truthfully HARTOLDMONOO11455 1 and honestly and completely answer all 2 questions that Mr. Pohl or I may ask at the 3 deposition because so far as Monsanto was 4 aware, there was - 5 THE COURT: The Court will accept that 6 statement,, 7 MR. JONES: Okay. Thank you, Your 8 Honor. 9 Your Honor, I would like to read one 10 other additional portion and that's on Page 11 63 where I asked the question: Page 63, 12 line 10 . 13 14 "QUESTION: Dr. Wright, for the past 15 hour and a half, you have been asserting 16 your Fifth Amendment privilege agains t 17 self-incrimination in the Constitution of 18 the United States. 19 "Do you intend to continue to assert 20 your Fifth Amendment privilege to the 21 questions that I may ask concerning the 22 subject matter of this lawsuit?" 23 24 MR. JONES: Wherein Mr. Wright's 25 counsel said: "Assuming that your questions HARTOLDMONOO11456 7THT j 1 intend to ask Dr. Wright that as to each and 2 every question you pose that would touch 3 upon the same subject matter as Mr. Pohl's 4 questions to which Dr. Wright has invoked 5 his constitutional rights on behalf of Dr. 6 Wright, I would state that, yes, he intends 7 to invoke the same rights he invoked all 8 along during Mr. Pohl's questions." 9 At that point, I did not ask any 10 further questions and pass the witness. 11 12 THE COURT: All right. What do you 13 have next? 14 MR. POHL: We call Phil Smith as our 15 next witness. 16 THE COURT: Have a seat in the witness 17 chair. You may proceed. 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 HARTOLDMONOO11457