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1 bring in don't even know in 1996 that asbestos can
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They wanted to know these guys putting the
2 cause mesothelioma.
2 pipecovering in the ship, are they going to get
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Someone they are going to bring in doesn't
3 asbestos. Do you know what the answer was? No, that
4 know that.
4 was a safe occupation.
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Back then, control the dust, and you will be
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Now, Ms. Tostanoski is going to talk more
6 fine.
6 about that. That was in 1946 that report came out.
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The Surgeon General, 1938, hey, everybody,
7 It is safe. End users, people who actually install
8 do you want to prevent yourself from getting the
8 day in and day out the product are fine.
9 disease? Control the dust. And that was the
9 The problem is the people who mine this
10 thinking.
10 stuff and the problem is who make the raw product,
11 Owens-Corning in the 1940s, we are not
11 they can be in trouble.
12 selling asbestos, we are selling fiberglass.
12 That was the thinking up until the mid
13 But something happened in the 1940s. World 13 '60s. This is known as state of the art. These are
14 War II. World War II changed a lot of things.
14 things I think were left out during the plaintiffs'
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I wasn't around then. I love history, and I
15 opening that I want you to know about and I am going
16 read a lot about it. I read about it and a lot of
16 to go into more detail during trial.
17 these cases.
17 1953, Owens-Corning was selling
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World War II, they were building ships every
18 fiberglass. Fiberglass is good, but it is not that
19 seven days. They were building ships every seven days 19 good. If you go up to 450 degrees and anything after
20 at Sparrows Point.
20 it, the fiberglass will melt and drip and burn you.
21 The use of asbestos and shipbuilding
21 What they needed is a product that could
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1 skyrocketed because what was happening during the '40s 1 insulate the higher temperatures, so they asked Owens-
2 is that these ships were driven by steam and they
2 Illinois, can we sell this so we can get more jobs?
3 needed asbestos pipecovering, so people wouldn't get
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We are not ashamed of that. We wanted to
4 burned. They are up to 1200, 1800 degrees. It would
4 get more business, so we asked them, but before we
5 cook you alive.
5 asked them, we said, is there any problem with this
6 Also what was happening in the Pacific is
6 product? And they told us no, no problem with it, it
7 that kamikazes were coming down and hitting ships and 7 is fine.
8 blowing up and burning people to death.
8 In fact, they showed you some documents
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What they required is that they had asbestos
9 earlier, and if this happens throughout the whole
10 in each compartment so when the kamikaze hit, it would 10 trial, I am going to stand up and I am going to show
11 stop the fire.
11 you, because the same place they got those documents,
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The government said wait a second, there can
12 there is other documents, too, that they probably
13 be a problem with this asbestos because we know from 13 won't show you.
14 the '30s, let's do a study.
14 In all due respect to them, they are going
15 The study was done in the 1940s, and what 15 to put me in the worst possible light.
16 they were looking at is people who installed asbestos-
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Just one moment.
17 containing pipecovering. Not this kind of
17 Here are some of the responses we got when
18 pipecovering, because this is the hard rigid type of
18 we asked about this Kaylo.
19 pipecovering.
19 Like I told you, this Kaylo was something
20 Kaylo was a hard rigid pipecovering in the
20 different. It was hard, baked like a ceramic
21 '40s and '50s, but they had this old fluffy stuff.
21 product.
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