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Page 122 1 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Off the record. The time is 2 12:05. 3 (Discussion off the record.) I 4 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Back on the record. 5 BY MR. RUCKDESCHEL: 6 Q Sometime in mid 2002 or about a year after 7 your first contact with Mr. Grams, you have a 8 discussion with your clients about writing some papers? I 1 Ii 9 A That's about right. ] 10 Q And that work then leads to the publication of 11 two papers, your 2003 paper about dust levels and your 12 2004 paper regarding state of the art? 13 A I say to the client this story is so 14 interesting and has yet to have been put together in 15 one place, that I thought it made sense to share it 16 with the scientific community. So they agreed to 17 support that work. I 18 Q Okay. And they in fact paid for that work? 19 MR. LANKFORD: Objection. 20 THE WITNESS: By and large that's right. 21 BY MR. RUCKDESCHEL: j J 22 Q Okay. And am I correct, you say by and large. 23 I've seen testimony before that youdidn't bill all the j 24 time. Is that the reasonwhy you say byand large they j 25 paid for it? ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SERVICES (415) 288-4280