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;ing was -Had to order at 9.-CO A.M. by President J r
. ,,.,wia in -ttendance:
-e-sent J..
Vyverberg wi
,;oidwia-ZJ!<'et-HllI, Inc. .rcnton, U- J.
M.M. Wilson j. McAllister*
crtainte-i-St. C-cbeia i;uia Cyr.vy1* Pa.
R.L. Strickland
vtbreboari Cor;.
P.A. Horlstros J. Collin
j-orty-Eigl*6 Insulation*,"Xac. Aurora, ZJ I*
T.S. dousing
ijev Tcrk,
Sales Corp. I*
M.V. Burleson
wens-Corses Fiberglas Corp. r.jleds, CM
J.?. Vyverberg
rfC Indus1 ries rittsburs1*, Pa.
die Ruber'^d Div. GJl.y.
noises Tabulations United ..ownsview. Ontario, Canada
P.D. JCaley L.B. Grant.M.D. V.T. Irvin H.L. Loeffler H. Muikey
B.W. Henry W.c. O'Brien
E.H. Thring
i'udvaiad*' Wickershas & Tart j. Boyer
i.athen/w* ish
x. Walsh
National insulation Mfrs. Assn. J..M. Barnhart
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A cation was zade, seconded, and passed
That the Minutes of the Meetleg of May 16,. 1967, as bulletined by the Association, be approved.
T3AJTI? CCt-3C?l'hl REPOST
Zn Chairman Winner's absence, J.K. Barnhart read the Comtttee Report as follows:
"This has been a frustrating year for the Traffic Cosaittee. The
general trend has been to increase freight rates, both rail and truck, asd
with light density cesEoditles there is not too ouch defense that can be
offered to forestall increases.
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In January the Rational Truck Classification Board proposed the can cellation of most insulating material items and instead proposed ratings based on density. The proposal follows:
Min. Wt.
III T/l
Factor
lass than 3 pounds per eubie foot
300 85
10.2
3 pounds but less than 6 pounds per cubic foot
200 77-1/2 12.2
6 pounds but less than 9 pounds per eubie foot
125 65
15.2
9 pounds but less than 12 pounds per eubie foot 100 60
18.2
12 pounds but less than 15 pounds per eubie foot 85 55
15 pounds or over per cubic foot
70
22.2
We had a Traffic Cosaittee meeting to discuss this and determined we required Industry figures which were very competently collated by our Ex ecutive Secretary, Mr. Barnhart, and we thank him for his help.
A bearing was held in Washington on this subject and ve feel that ve have defeated the density program, however we did not coma out unscathed be cause Z believe we must assume that where we are act paying $1.29 per ICO pounds ve will in the near future be paying $2.00 per 100 pounds on less tha truckload shipcants. While this is a rather substantial increase on a lot e products, we feel that ve have kept the increase to a very
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Shortly after this the truckliaes filed a proposal to publish density
ratings on any product weighing less than six pounds per cubic foot as fol lows:
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Less than 1 pound
Three tines Class 5CO
1 pound but less than 2 pounds 2 pounds but less than 3 pounds 3 pounds but less then k pounds
Class $00 fl uoo M 3C0
k. pounds but less than $ pounds 5 pounds but less than 6 pounds
250 H 200
Oils proposal would have meant that where _we now pay $1.25 per ICS pounds if the density of the product was less than 1 pound per cubic foot we would pay $15.00 per 100 pounds, less than 2 pounds per cubic foot $5.00 per ICO pounds, etc. Fortunately, we have been able to have this suspended by the Interstate Concerce Commission and I consider it very doubtful that it will be approved.
VJhlle there are aany other subjects concerning cleaning cars, demurrageand so forth none of these have really case to pass. There is one thing, however, which has been on the docket for several years concerning nineral wood cecent.
One of our competitors describes his mineral wool cement as high temperature bonding mortar. Bis eement is no different than ours, however, he advertises, invoices, describes it on the bill of lading and marks his
packages as high temperature bonding mortar. For this reason he has been able to get away with what is considered a very improper practice. All cf us could do the sane thing, however, we all realise that mineral vool eenent is nineral wool cesent and not high temperature bonding ncrtar. One of our ncn-nember competitors has filed several proposals requesting reduced rates on nineral wool cement with rrlr^-m weights of 70,000 and 100,000 pounds which ere not practical nlrrt-in weights for our type business. The retes also are higher than those on high temperature bending sorter. While your ceeting is in session I will be in San Francisco at which time Z will dis cuss this matter with the treffic executives of the Southern Pacific, Sente Fe, Western Pacific end Union Pacific Hell roads. I will impart to them that
while e reduction ia welcome this is not the end of our fight to have parity with high te^ereture bonding mortar in every instance. Thia could result in one cf three things, either we would get high temperature mortar rates on mineral wool cement, or the carriers would turn down our proposal or start an investigation to correct the situation which is now practiced by several of cur competitors.
There is another alternative. Z believe we could force the discon tinuance of the use of high temperature bonding mortar as a description if we went to the Interstate Cemeree Cenmission in e formal procedure. This
would require, however, thousands of dollars of tine, the requirement cf ex pert witnesses inertial to insulation industry, and probably $50,CC0 In legal fees in order to accomplish this objective.
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I do net recemend this last suggestion end believe the natter should
be left in tne bands of the Traffic Cennittee to work out the best possible
rates and
weights to be able to sore effectively ccmpeta with cur
contention.
May Z thank Jack Barnhart for his very kind assistance and the very able and enthusiastic support of all the seabers of the Traffic Cennittee."
Mafterrrrc research cog?TS5 rtpcr?
Mr. R.L. Loeffler reviewed the past activities of the Committee, principally tae major revision cdepleted in the statistical reporting program.
He asked that aaw sasbers be added to the CeshLttee.
rrjenCAl & RESEARCH CtMT."^1 vrPCPZ
J.M. Barnhart reported as follows:
Since the May 16, 1967, NIMA Spring Ideating, the technical activities have included the following:
May 23, 1967
Kettering Laboratories, Cincinnati, Chio
June 7 4 13, 1967
Maavlllt Research Laboratory, Manvilla, N. J.
June 26, 27, 28, 1967
ASHRAE Meeting, Minneapolis, Minn.
July 11, 12, 1567
Duct Systems Committee Meeting, Manville, H. J.
July 17, 1967
GSA & C. E., Washington, D. C.
Septeafcer Ih 4 15, 1567 Septeeber 17, 18, 19 & 20, 1S67
T 4 R Corslttee Meeting, New fork, N. X.
ASTM, C-16 Committee Meeting, Toronto, Can.
1Z:C IA3CRATCRI2S. CEfKESATX. CEtO. MAT 23, 1967
Foss Vilsea and J.M. Barnhart sat with persocsal fros the laboratories to
ascertain the type of a report that could be written in connection with the duct systems air erosion tests.
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ma::vtiis research iabcratcht.
rt. j.. jure 7 k 13. 19$7
The Research Laboratory vas visited for the purpose of witnessing preliminary tests on fibrous glass duct systems for establishing reinforcement schedules.
ASXPAS MEETING. KPgSVfOLIS. MOTT., JUKE 26 . 27 . 28. 1967
Committee T.C. 2.h meeting vas attended for the purpose of fInsisting the 15c5 ASKRAE CLIDE chapters relating to thermal insulation and vapor barriers. Com mittee T.C. U.l meeting vas attended for the purpose of attempting to include the fibrous glass duet systems in the "Duct Desi^" chapter of the ASERAE GUIDE.
DUCT STSTg-S COMMUTE!' MiETCTG. wimm-Tr N.J.. JULY U, 12. 1967
The Committee met with SMACitA and SM-TXA representative to vitness reinforcement tests.
OSA & C.S., WASSPCTOn. D. C.. Jlir 17, 1567
Government T & R Cosittee seekers and J.M. Barnhart set with L. Mills of GSA and L. Broggiai of C. E. to discuss HH-I-558.
T & R CCT5CTTSE MSETiyg. HEV TCBiC. IT. Y.. SEPTSR3S? lh & 15. 1967
The Mineral Fiber Section end Molded Section set on September If* & 15* 1967, end discussed the following subjects:
1. HH-I-558
2. HH-I-5^5 3. ASTM Specs - C 553, C 378 to C 352 4. Military Spaes - KLL-I-27S1
MIL-1-2819 MEL>X-2U2U
5. Stress Corrosion 6. Thermal Conductivity Round Robin
ASTM C-16 CCMgra MEET2TG. TQROCTO. CAMADA. SS3TB<3ER 17. 18. 19 it 20, 196?
This meeting vas attended and the following subjects of interest vere dis cussed:
1. Stress Corrosion Test 2. ASTM C 378 end C 392. 3. ASIM C 553 L. Definitions relating to "rigidity" end "flexibility".
The XDCRA Menus 1 was discussed in detail.
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A action vj aade, seconded, and passed
That RDiA will eocperate with IDCTIA and furnish them with applicable ASTM product specificeticn data on a generic basis.
l nsrs szcticr rz?c?t
J.M. Barnhart reported on the activities of the Cremittee in accordance with the Minutes of their Meeting which is attached hereto and made part of these Minutes.
molds ssctior report
J.M. Barnhart reported on the activities of the Conaittee la accordance with the Minutes of their Meeting which 4* attached hereto and aade part of these Minutes.
EVCT 5YS'.'ilMS CC-?CTTEz RE?3RT
J.M. Barnhart reported on the activities of the Committee in accordance vith the Minutes of their Meetings which are attached hereto and aade part of these Minutes.
reslicit? comirm report
Anhrose Walsh, publicity counsel, reported in detail on the following:
REPOST on RIKA KEWSLZTHS fSCJSCT 1967
Pursoses
1. To improve relationships with QCRA eesbers by informing then of OTMA. purposes and programs.
2. To provide useful infomation on mineral insulations.
3. To aalntain contact with other organizations in construction and process industries to beep then evars of RZMA purposes and progress.
To Identify RKA and ita purposes end pregraas with individual engineers, architects, contractors and owners.
Fern and Frecuency
Two page newsletter published four tines in the year.
Distribution
1. 1000 copies insert*! at advertising rates in ZDC3A NEWS four times in the year.
2. Individual copies sailed to officers of identifiable organizations with eesson interests, like AXA, Consulting Engineers Council, ASHRAE, ARI, BR, ete.
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3. Individual espies sailed to edi' ts of industry aedia, like Heating Pi:i." tad Air Ccaditicaisg. Ch lisal Engineering. District Keating. ete.
Contents
Issue 1: Health & Safety K-values of oineral insulations
Issue 2: legislation affecting construction Index of ASTM, Federal and Military insulation specifications
Issue 3: Sconssic thickness:* nev data on efficiency of insulation of pipe, valves, fittings, flanges, etc-.-
Issue U; Health & Safety
Schedule Issue 1: printed May, 1937, nailed June, 1967 Issue 2: printed and nailed September, 1967 Issue 3: scheduled for nailing October, 1967 Issue U; scheduled for nailing December, 1967
Results
Issue 1: 1100 copies printed, 1000 distributed through ECHA HEWS, 10 to organisation officers individually by nail and 30 ts editors. Individually by nail.
Issue 2:
1500 espies printed, 1000 distributed through ISOtt KEVS,
205 to organisation officers and nenbers (165 added after letter request by earlier recipients) and 60 to editors with news releases announcing that copies of the index were avail* able to their readers.
Budget & Bcaendltures
The newsletter project was budgeted at $750.00 per issue for 1967, that anount to cover the cost of advertising in DOHA HEWS at a rate of SlfiO.CO Fer issue, the cost of art, photography, typography, printing and nailing, estiaated at $290.00 per issue, plus the agency fee for gathering the in formation* writing the copy, clearing it and supervising production and distribution, estiaated at 2 nandays per issue or $300.00. Distribution of individual copies as veil as the size of the news Utter baa been neces sarily United by the budget.
The first two Issues have been produced within the budget as was agreed.
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Out-cf-pocket costs to the agency on the first issue caee to $525.00, allowing the agency a fee of $225.00 to cover preparation costs.
lie second issue hah a larger print order hut art and printing costs vers cut by 255; the balance resaining to cover agency preparation costs sheale be $275.00. Since the agency's actual tine input on the second issue vns cut by one-third, the fee is approaching the actual tlae cast.
REP3RX 05 SIMA DUCT SYSTEMS PUBLICITY PROGRAM
Purpose
To increase acceptance of fibrous glass duct systess In .commercial, Industrial and eductional building markets by demonstrating acceptance by contractors, engineers and owners.
Prcrran A Acccenllshsent3
1. ASHRAE Speech: draft prepared in April, 1967 for presentation in
February, 1963.
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2. Kettering Laboratory Erosion Study: text and illustrations prepared for report now being issued by Kettering with copies available far distribution in October.
1. A technical articla on the same subject will be prepared by J. Cholai of Kettering using the seme text as a basis.
t. AMERICAS ARXXSA5: This magazine has scheduled a b-part, 9 to 12-page series of articles on fibrous glass duct. The series will include articles on:
a. the fibrous glass duet installation in West Elementary School, Elgin, Illinois;
b. the fibrous glass duct installation in Sundstrand Aviation Research Building, Rockford, Illinois;
c. how Korthlake Engineering integrated fibrous glass duct fabrication into its sbeetmetal shop;
d. how the new Lockformer fibrous glass duet fabricating ma chine performs.
This series, originally scheduled for September, is sow
scheduled for November according to the editor, James Wilder, the delay caused by delays in the Sundstrand installation and collection of data on the Lockformer equipment being used on that job.
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5- AI3 CONDITIONING, HEATING & VENTHATING: this nagezine has schedule; a special issue oa fibre us glass duct systems ts appear is Feorucry, 1963. The issue viU be based on the conference held September 20, 1967 sponsored Jointly by ACHV and NIKA. The conference was attended by 30, including architects, engineers and .contractors froa across the country along with owners -- GSA, Tistaan Realty, and Western Electric. The issue will cover all aspects froa design to installation in a series of bylined articles by NSiA members, engineers, contractors and owners on their experience with the aaterial.
6. HEATING, PIPING & Ad CONDITIONING: an engineering article bylined by L. A. Bihler, chief mechanical engineer, The Engineers Collaborative, has been proposed and accepted. The articla-has been outlined and is being developed with Mr. Bihler's assistance; eoapletlon is expected within the next 60 days with publication early in 1968. The article will cover the experience Mr. Bihler has bad in the design of 10 buildings using fibrous glass duct systeas.
7. SNIPS: a story on Sundberg Engineering's experience with fibrous glass duct systeas in an office building and two high speed trains is being prepared. Publication has not been scheduled as the text is still being cleared with Mr. Sundberg.
8. Ad CONDITIONING, HEATING iTREFRIGERATION HEWS: The experience of Gary Sbeetaetal Co. in the installation of fibrous glass duct in a church has been developed into an article now under review by the flra. Scheduled far publication in November, 1967*
Projects still under develotment:
9. Jaaesvills-DeWitt School: this Installation was visited and the design engineer interviewed with B. McSermott, associate editor of ACKV. it will probably serve as one example in the aagazine's special issue but a second version has been discussed with HEATING A Ad CONDITIONING CONTRACTOR.
10. Fire Marshall Survey: the survey results will be developed into a feature under Mr. Platnker's byline with his permission.
Budget end Sctesdltures
This program was budgeted at $8000.00 for the year. To date approximately 0% of the funds have been spent, $869.00 for out-of-pocket costs such as travel and photography and $;6oO.CO for agency fees to cover 38 aandayt expended on the prograa. The agency estiaates that the projects under developaent will he ecspleted within the budget allotted.
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SCHEDULE ACHV FISK)13 DUCT COHFSESSCS
AM SESSICBS 9:00 - 10:00
10:00
10:10
11:00 12:00 - 1:30
Arrivals, Introductions, coffee
Introduction:
Biebard L. Koral, Editor Air Conditioning, Beating and Ventilating
Purpose Frogran arrangement Schedule
NBAS IS FXBEOUS GLASS DUCT J. N. Barnhart, Executive Secretary KL'A
10-aisute sumary to describe material, properties and uses, with examples of forms demonstrated.
WHAT CAB FJBBDUS GLASS DIET DO?
Systems, uses; advantages and limitations.
Lunch
FM SESSICtS
1:30 - 2:30
KOW IS IT FABRICATED A E3IALLET?
Techniques for forming, joining, and supporting.
2:30 - 3:30
SXFSSEEES WITH FIBROUS GLASS DUCT STSTS5
Performance in various building types.
liCTE:
After short introductory presentation of each topic, the full panel will continue discussion based on questions from the floor. BS1A Duet Systems Committee members will
serve as experts to furnish fasts and recommendations when and if required.
Mr. Howard Volfberg
Victcr Gruen Architects A Engineers 6330 San Vicente Boulevard Los Angeles, California J0C*8
Mr. Robert R. Jones General Services Administration F A 19th Street Washington, D. C.
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Mr. 5cnaid J. Mosstart, Jr. Liasach.Ccapany !* Gateway Center Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania 15222
Mr. Paul Borquin Wolff t Muaier 50 West W*tb Street Sew Tort, Sew York
Mr. A. J. Cerotrei Western Electric Coapany 222 Broadway New York, New York
Mr. Patrick Henry, Chief Mechanical Engineer Jones & Tellers, Architects & Engineers 3117 Sussex Boas Augusta, Georgia 30$02
Mr. Ityron Kaufsan Greenleaf & Associate, Consulting Engineers U8 Iman Street Cashridge, Massachusetts - --
Mr. VllHea Braceo Tlshsan Research Coapsay 666 Fifth Avenue New York, New York
Mr. Joseph Lee Tlshsan Research Coapany 666 Tlfth Avenue New York, New York
MT. M. T. Bandy Judd Flushing A Heating W*6* Alvarado Fvy. San Antonio, Texas
Mr. Paul Jacobson Air Conditioning Contractors Znc. 2^0 Arlington Street Chelsea, Massachusetts
Mr. Valter Bittler Edgely Air deducts Coapany I^CUj Randall Avenue Levittowa, Pennsylvania
Mr. Jack M. Barnhart National Insulation Manufacturers Association W1 Lexington Avenue New York, New York
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ttr. 3. S. Baylor Johns-Manvilie 22 East UOth Street Jtew York, Rev York 10016
Hr. W. B. Silk Jobss-Maaviile 22 East UOth Street Dew York, Hew York 10016
Mr. C. K. Haaaond Owess-Corning Fibergias Corporation 717 Fifth Avenue Nev York, Nev York 10022
Mr. B. P. Rorick OvensCorning Fiberglas Corporation 717 Fifth Avenue Nev York, New York 10022
Mr. Z. Johnson Certain-Teed Products Corporation Lea Building Ashler, Pennsylvania 19002
Mr. B. L. Loeffler Pittsburg Piste Glass Cospasy Pittsburg, Pennsylvmnia
Mr. P. L. Losse Pittsburg Plate Glass Conpany Pittsburg, Penasylvania
Mr. Leonard Bibler Engineers College Chicago, Zllinols
Mr. George Claed Batkin Santa Clara, California
Mr. Nonas Goldberg Sconosides A Goldberg Nev York, Nev York
HEALTH & SAFETY COWET-2 REPEAT
Dr. L. B. Grant reported as follovs:
COrgTTlS MEETINGS.
The Cocaittea net on June 5, 1967 and August 10, 1967. The Minutes of the meetings are attached. The highlights of these oeetings art as follov;
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Apropos tbs DIMA Board action directing this Cosslttcc to proceed with the U.S.P.H.S. in the initiation of a study of the mineral fiber in dustry, meetings were held with Sr. Lewis J. Cralley. Sr. Cralley pro posed that the first phase of the study should be a. study of the causes of death on foraer long-term employees of the Industry using Bureau of Old Age Survivors Insurance Records to determine if treads are evident in specific causes of death in contrast to that of the general popula tion or la the life expectancy pattern. Each of the companies repre sented by RIKA have now provided information to the U.S.P.H.S. concern ing the availability of employment and personnel records from which a cohort will be established for the study. A letter dated September 14, 1967 from Dr. Cralley which is attached is the U.S.P.H.S. official reply to KIMA's request for the aineral fiber industry study.
Apropos the RIKA Board action placing the Educational Program for the OCHA under this Committee with a recommendation that a follow-up progren be formulated, Mr. Clifford Sbeckler was appointed by the Coaittee to chair an Education Subeomnlttee to carry out the Board recommenda tion. While this Subcommittee has not as yet finalized the program' it will recommend, an interim report per telephone on September 14, 1967 from Mr. Sbeckler Indicated tbat the Subcommittee bad met several tints. An outline of the subjects to be presented include:
1) Environment and health; 2) Workmen's compensation and legal liability; 3) Insurance at present.'
The Committee is developing the detailed data on thaae subjects tc be presented. The length of the presentation will be held to less than two hours; a'handout is being prepared which will supplement the program. Thera is an urgent need on the Subcecaittee for a person knowledgeable in insurance and wortaen's compensation aspects. There is also a need for at least one additional person to be available to make the presentations at I5CKA Regional Meetings. The next meeting of the Subcommittee is tentatively set for December. Mr. John Vyverberg met with Mr. Ted Brody in Montreal In July. Mr. Brody is the Rational Insulation Contractors Association's Chairman of the Occupational Health Comlttee, and it was agreed that the oneoming Educational Program will be a cooperative effort between the two groups.
Dr. W. Clark Cooper met with the Coa&ittee on August 10 end discussed his studies end educational efforts in regard to the potential environ mental health problems of the insulation workers on the West Coast. Dr. Cooper has U.S.P.H.S. Grant support for his studias. The nature of the studies is similar to those being done by Dr. I. J. Selikoff on the East Coast insulation workers. Dr. Cooper expressed his thoughts in regard to appropriate measures that should ba taken to protect the health of the insulation worker. Ha is recommending to the Board of Trustees appointed to manage the Onion's Research fund that they use the money to educate the worker concerning measures be can taka to adequately protect his health from potential environmental hazards. It vas the unanimous opinion of those present at the August 10 meeting that to the degree it was feasible the educational efforts of R4A and Dr. Cooper's group should not be in conflict.
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A seating of the Cescittee has been called for October 10 in Pittsburg:-, for those Cccnittee tenters who will be attending the Annual Industrial
Hygiene Foundation Meeting at Chathaa Center. Zt vill be a lunchecr.
nesting.
arcs? sisriFicAOT pcbiicatioks
Parallel inforsation in two recent scientific papers indicate what nay in tine prove to be a significant breakthrough in both the understanding of pathological conditions now attributed to the inhalation of asbestos dust and also the prevention of these effects, suasarles of these articles are attached. One is by L. J. Cralley, et al., entitled Exposure to Metals in Manufacture of Asbestos Textile Products" and the other by Paul Gross, M.2., et al., entitled "Experimentel Asbestosls.* Both papers allude to the sig nificance of airborne levels of nickel and other metals .which are taown or suspected esreinogens associated with asbestos dust inhalation. Both sug gest the strong possibility that some of the pathological effects observed nay be attributed not to the asbestos but to the metals Inhaled simultaneously. This suggests that prevention of these effects may be related to the reduc tion in aetal contest of the asbestos.
HOMnmiro commutes report
M. V. Burleson reported that the Hominating Cosaittee proposes following Slate of Officers and Directors be placed la nomination for the year 1967c 1963:
Resident Vice President Treasurer
Jt. W. Henry T. S. Clousing J. F. Vyverberg
BOARD OP SISrCTOSS
R. W. Henry, Chairman
M. V. Burleson T. S. Clousing P. D. Raley P. A. Bordstron R. 1. Strickland J. F. Vyverberg M. M. Wilson
Ruberoid Dlv. of GAP
Johns-Manviile Forty-Eight Insulations PPG Industries Fibreboard Corp.
Certain-Teed/St. Oobain Ovens-Corning Baldvia-Ehret-Hill
A motion was made, seconded, and passed
That the Slate of Officers and Board of Directors as proposed by the Roainatlng Cosaittee be elected.
RS1ARS5 OF LEGAL C013SE1.
John Boyer reviewed the legal status of voluntary standardisation under the antitrust laws, noting the instances where Congress has Imposed legis lative standards after industry delayed la adopting voluntary standards on
safety, performance or disclosure. Mr. Boyer further outlined the legal
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requirement* under the Trademark Levs end under the antitrust lev* ef certification programs based on voluntary industry standards. He con* eluded that standards and certification programs, if carefully initiated and operated in compliance with legal requirements, serve a useful pur pose is facilitating trade and by informing and protecting buyers and consumers. AJjqTUWST There being so further business, the meeting vas adjourned.
Respectfully submitted, . J. M. Barnhart
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