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CONFIDENTIAL Environmental Control Department Research & Engineering Center January 12, 1970 H. M. Ball - GHQ F. L. Pundsack F. J. Solon, Jr. - GHQ W. L. VanDerbeek H. M. Jackson - DHQ W. P. Raines - GHQ Sprayed Fireproofing Insulation Meeting Building Trades Employers Association Attached is a Memorandum detailing the pertinent comments made by people in attendance at this meeting. The purpose of the meeting was to review ways in which the potential health, hazard to the construction trades and the general public, generated by the use of asbestos-containing spray insulations, could be reduced or eliminated. r* .j EMF/ems Attach. cc: File C CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM SPRAYED FIREPROOFING INSULATION MEETING BUILDING TRADES EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATION Environmental Control Department Research & Engineering Center January 12, 1970 On Friday, January 9, 1970, at 10:00 A.M. a meeting was held at the Building Trades Employers Association headquarters on the 20th Floor of 711 Third Ave., New York City. A list of those in attendance is shown on Attachment "A". The meeting was chaired by I. J. Selikoff, M.D. The purpose of this memorandum is to transmit to the addressees pertinent ...comments that were made by different people. Selikoff - Selikoff opened the meeting by briefly reviewing asbestos and health problems. He stated that many of his comments concerning the health hazards applied to fibrous glass and mineral wool as well as asbestos. He condemned the use of any product containing fibrous materials such as fiber glass, mineral wool or asbestos, when the product surface was in contact with a moving air stream used for building air conditioning. He said that asbestos, when inhaled in large quantities over significant periods of time, presents a serious health risk, and that if you have lived one-half mile or so from an asbestos using plant, there is a significant chance that you might develop mesothelioma. Therefore, it is important that we have the airborne asbestos fiber concentration as near zero as possible to eliminate these risks. Levine Mr.' Levine was introduced by Dr. Selikoff as the President of the Sprayed Mineral Fiber Manufacturers Association. He listed the steps that the manufacturers are taking to eliminate risk to passers-by and to construction workers. (1) Proper preparation of materials, including the addition of a dust suppressant. (2) Improved - application-guns which completely encapsulate the material in water. (3) Instructions in proper application techniques. (4) Enclosing the entire work area with tarpaulin or other suitable curtains. In order that such enclosures are completely effective, it may be necessary to eliminate spraying of the outer columns and spandrel beams, and encase them in concrete instead as each floor is poured. CONFIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM -2- January 12, 1970 (5) Schedule work in building so a properly protected applicator and perhaps his helper, are the only people present during spraying. The Sprayed Mineral Fiber Manufacturers Association is preparing an application manual that will detail proper work practices, including housekeeping. Selikoff The National Air Pollution Control Administration must establish by 1972 criteria for asbestos air pollution and by 1975 applicable control standards. Dr. Selikoff's present opinion is that the occupational level will be set at between 2.to 6 F/cc (he is strongly in favor of 2 F/cc or less) and that the ambient air criteria will be 1 fiber per 100 cc (0.01 F/cc). Rosen Skidmore, Owens and Merrill are now changing their architectural specification writing to eliminate potential hazard from asbestos containing materials to the applicators or building occupants. Shapiro He recommends that laws be passed banning the use of asbestos fiber in sprayed fireproofing. Novak Novak made a long speech on the hazards to which asbestos workers have been and are being exposed. He claims not enough is being done to protect the health of his Union members. -G-rPP Mr. Gropp stated there is an urgent need for governmental standards for control of the industry. When such standards have been set, means must be provided to police construction jobs to assure that they are being' met. General Comments The meeting now resorted to a general give and take discussion which was terminated by Dr. Selikoff asking the general contractors' representatives, who up until this point had said very little, and Herbert Levine, what the next step was to be. It was finally decided that Levine would set up a meeting with the General Contractors Association to review his industry's manual of application practices and determine how these practices could be implemented. fj-jj-j' Sprayed Insulation Meeting 7 . (Attachment "A") Friday, January 10, 1970. 10;00 A.M. . 711 3rd Ave. bet. 44th & 45 St., 20 Fir. Re: Sprayed Insulation 1. American Iron & Steel Institute.................... .. 633 3rd Avenue, NYC u" J. C. Spence, Chief, Fire Protection Engineer /LaT 2* Building Trades Employers Assoc.....;.............Earl Fullilove, 697-2860 711 3rd Avenue, NYC Executive Secretary--- 3.. Contracting Plasterer's Assoc....'.....;..........Louis DiBono, 516-HN 6-0100 President ;` , Mario-tDiBono 732-5222 . Plastering Co. Inc. Great Neck or 136 Liberty St. / CL-'/-/ 4. Diesel Construction........................................ tV.. Carl Morse., 581-0300 .1133 Avenue of the Americas, NYC Chairman of-Board- .. *'v 5. George A. Fuller Co., Inc................ ........................Jim Taylor, Jr. 355-2700 595 Madison Avenue, NYC Vice President'. 6, Gypsum Associates................................ .......................... David E. Brackett, 312-726-5675 201 North Well Street, Chicago, 111. Sec. of Building Code Committee 7. Investing Builders & Owners Assoc 420 Lexington Avenue, NYC Louis Whiteman, OR 9-6555 President 8a..Johns-Manville Corporation. 150 E. 42nd Street, NYC b. J-M Environmental Control.. Manville, New Jersey 9. Local 12. Asbestos Workers 799 Broadway, NYC Bill Raines, OX 7-5600 Public Relations fEdmund Fenner, 201-722-9000 Director, Environmental Control / ?Jack Novak, 477-6760 International Pres., IAHFIAW 10. Local 60. Plasterers Local 80 E. 11 Mr. Lojocarno, 982-8888 President i 11. Metropolitan Spray.. Brooklyn, New York -2 I ijl yStanley Fonfa, .NI 5-2506 Vice President 12. Morrell-Brown................................................................. X Mel Praeger, 873-4014 15 East 54th Street, NYC President () /<?&r . 13. NY Assoc, of Consulting Engineers....'..............Elliott -Feiden, 697-9418 630 3rd Avenue, NYC VP<--ef Structural Engineers' 14.- Bnery Roth and Co.......................................................... Julian Roth, 753-1733 400 Park Avenue, NYC Administrator 15. James Ruderman...............................................................''Murray Shapiro, 758-6065 515 Madison Avenue, NYC Partner 16. Skidmore Owings & Merrill 400 Park Avenue, NYC 17. Sprayed Mineral Fiber Assoc 212 DI 9-4390 1 18. Tishman Construction Corp 75 Fulton Street, NYC ! 19. Turner Construction............ 150 E. 42nd Street, NYC 20. Uris Brothers... 850 3rd Avenue 688-8200 X Harold Rosen, PE 9-2121 Specifications / . f Herbert Levine, BA 7-3539 President u ''Rudy Toth, W0 4-5265 Philip Carey Corp. Linden, N.J. / / is Lee Jenne, 421-7122 Keene Corp. 345 Park Avenue, NYC l /Harry Gropp, DI 9-4390, NYC# U.S. Mineral Products Furnace, Stanhope, N.J. </ ,.. Joooph-Newman, JU 2-6700 VtP , Tishman Roocarch C.C. Powell, 573-0400 Senior Vice President / u Represented by Mr. Louis Whiteman Investing Builders .I i -3- ; ij Ij :L)h` _ ; 41.1' 21. Environmental Sciences Laboratory. Mount Sinai School of Medicine 5th Ave. Sc 100 St., NYC i TR 6-1000 ..^Irving J. Selikoff, M.D. Director, Ext. 6106 ,, Harry Heimann, M.D. Occupational Health. Ext. 6102 uWilliam Nicholson, Ph.D. Industrial Hygiene, Set. 204 ,, William Reitze, B.S. Industrial Hygiene, Ext. 204 Duncan A. Holaday, M.S. Industrial Hygiene, Ext. 204 o ( f !I I 'f MISCELLANEOUS NOTES FROM 100 03 l? i ItI SPRAYED INSULATION MEETING - 1/9/70 BUILDING TRADES EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATION - 711 Third Ave.,NYC DR. SELIKOFF . NAPCA -will set criteria by 1972 for ambient air. " will set control standards by 1975. " probably will be two fibers per cc or less for asbestosis. General public will not be allowed to breathe as much as much as do workers in the factories. SHAPIRO (Consulting Engineer) Challenged Dr. Selikoff on any risk to passersby. Answer is simple -- ban asbestos ... by law. There are other routes and materials and design techniques that will obviate need for asbestos spraying. QVINE & GROPP Their independent laboratories have show that asbestos is not dislodged from return air plenums. GROPP SMFMA had meeting in Philadelphia, yesterday, with Department of Health. FONFA. GROPP. ETC? Each spray manufacturer is working on the problem but they have no intention of sharing one company's "secrets" with another. -2- DR. SELIKOFF lIsj U-jl i 1 l4i! Dr. Holmes and others in U.K. have shown that air circulating through finished buildings that have sprayed air plenums contains some fiber (about 1/10 the amount allowed in factories). Dr. Selikoff has no information as to whether this amount does or does not present a risk to occupants. FONPA ( Pl\ t <C ) Turner Bros, has refused to have- Girard Trust Building sprayed (re air plenums) - re risk to occupants after the spraying. LEVINE Plenums can be (spray?) lined with asbestos in a manner that will permit no fiber to get into the air. Would involve coating -- not too expensive. SHAPIRO j Buildings have only been sprayed in NYC to any significant degree since about 1956 (previously they used mostly cement casing). Economics! Some spraying goes back 40 years, though. JENNE 'd/L*'**' A spray job to GSA standards costs twice a NYC office building . spray job does. ROSEN (Skidmore Owens) Our firm will' not design any more buildings to be sprayed! The article in the "NEW YORKER" alerted us! -3- OBSERVATIONS Dr. Selikoff and Levine and Gropp in real battle over the facts -- the hazard. Spray people think the whole thing is exaggerated and are unconvenienced. Dr. Selikoff berated spray people for lack of progress and interest. Spray people told him that they are working (individually) on it but no single company will share its "secrets" with the others. Skidmore Owens has the "broad view" of the problem. Spray people want some agency to agree to enforce any standards (obviously to keep all the "boys honest"). ## # W. P. Raines 1/12/70 UXt/W Ju T!!! I i ASBESTOS SPRAYING REGULATIONS. 1 . Before the application of asbestos-containing material commences, the floor of the area involved shall be cleared of ail objects, material and equipment/ other than that employed in the application of the insulation or should be covered in a manner that precludes the subsequent dispersal of asbestos particulates. ...... , 2. The entire floor or the part of the floor to be insulated shall be en closed in a manner which shall preclude the escape of insulating material from the enclosure. All interior open areas, such as elevator shafts, stair-welis, etc., shall be enclosed in a manner which shall prevent escape of insulating material from the working area. "Stack effect" of the shafts, stairwells; etc., shall be considered in providing proper enclosures. 3. Wet asbestos-containing insulation which has fallen to the floor shall be immediately swept up and placed in a~container having walls, bottom, and a tight cover strong enough to resist tearing or breaking under normal handling conditions. The contents of the aforementioned containers shall not be transferred to another container, but the container shall be placed directly upon a 'vehicle for disposal at an approved site. 4. All floors will be vacuumed immediately after drying. The vacuum clean` er shall contain a strong, single-service, disposable inner bag of durable material which shall be removed from the vacuum cleaner and tightly sealed. The bag shall then be placed in a container which shall thereafter be placed on a vehicle for removal and disposal at an approved site. 5. cl/The materials used to form the enclosure shall be thoroughly vacuumed upon completion of the application of the insulation in the area. The entire .floor area, all ledges and surfaces upon which waste insulation material may - have fallen, shall then be vacuumed or revacuumed before removal of the en- closures. . . Pi Enclosures shall not be dismantled until the area has been vacuumed after 24 hours have elapsed since completion of spraying and clean-up. CJ. An enclosure will be considered satisfactory only if visible insulating material cannot escape from the enclosure. All areas used for opening of bags containing insulation material and/or charging of hoppers shall be enclosed .in such a manner that insulating jt:aterial cannot escape from the immediate area in which such activity takes place. : ' Signs shall be posted outside enclosures warning persons of the hazard of entering the enclosure without appropriate mask and other apparel. 'j/J All persons involved in the spraying-of asbestos at the site must be furnished /with face masks constructed in a fashion which precludes the inhalation of asbestos particulates and must be furnished-with suitable coveralls which will be left at the site and thereby preclude the removal of asbestos from the site. . No person shall be permitted in an area in which asbestos spraying or handling has taken place within a 12;-hour period after completion of the spraying and cleaning referred to in'paragraph numbered "5" herein unless such person is ' furnished with and wears a face mask and coveralls of the type described herein.