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FILE NAME: Colgate (COL) DATE: 2013 July 9 DOC#: COL025 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Legal - Deposition of Arthur M. Langer, PhD Arthur M. Langer, Ph.D. - 6/14/2013 Harold Goldsmith v. ACandS, Ine. IN THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR BALTIMORE CITY IN RE: BALTIMORE CITY * ASBESTOS LITIGATION * * * * * H A R O L D G O L D S M I T H , et a l ., * Plaintiffs * V . * A C a n d S , I N C . , et a l ., * Defendants * * * * Cases Affected: Joyce Barlow * Kristi Lescalleet * Clara Mosko * Marguerite Wolf * * * * J u l y 9, 2 0 1 3 Trial Group Cons. Case No. 24X11000783 * * 24X11000383 24X09000418 24X11000514 24X11000486 * * THE D E P O S I T I O N O F A R T H U R M. DANGER, PhD FRIDAY, JUNE 14 , 2013 NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK 10022 R e p o r t e d By: B a r b a r a J. E v a n s Page 1 j j j 4 s? 4 i | \ | j f I j 1 J\ I | j ] j | 1 j 1 * j 3 ) 3 ; 1'1 EVANS REPORTING SERVICE j The Munsey Building, Suite 705 , Seven North Calvert Street j Baltimore, Maryland 21202 j 410.727.7100 800.256.8410 ] 1 i 1j i Evans Reporting Service 800-256-8410 Arthur M. Langer, Ph.D. - 6/14/2013 Harold Goldsmith v. ACandS, Ine. 1 APPEARANCES 3 STEVEN SMITH. ESQUIRE Law Offices of Peter Angelos, PC 4 Baltimore, Maryland 2120 5 410 649 2000 Ssmith@lawpga com 6 On Behalf of the Plaintiffs 7 8 J D HORTON, ESQUIRE MORGAN TOVEY, ESQUIRE 9 PAUL ROSENTHAL, ESQUIRE KEITH FORST, ESQUIRE 10 Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan LLP 51 Madison Avenue, 22nd Floor 11 New York, New York 10010 212 849.7000 12 Jdhorton@qumnemanuel com morgantovey@quinnemanuel com 13 paulrosenthai@quinnemanuel com keithforst@quinnemanuel com 14 On Behalf o f the Defendant Colgate-Palmolive Co. 15 16 JEANN1E KAUFFMAN, ESQUIRE 17 (Via Telephone) Segal McCambridge Singer & Mahoney 18 One North Charles Street, Suite 2500 Baltimore, Maryland 21201 19 4 in 64 P i n jkauffman@smsm com 20 On Behalf of the Defendant Colgate-Palmolive Co 21 1 APPEARANCES CONTINUED 3 MEGAN McCORMICK, ESQUIRE (Via Telephone) 4 O'Connell Tivm Miller & Bums, LLC 135 South LaSalle Street, Suite 2300 5 Chicago, Illinois 60603 312 256 8800 6 Mmccormick@otmblaw com On Behalf of the Defendant John 7 Crane, Inc 8 9 POLLEEN O'BRIEN, ESQUIRE (Via Telephone) 10 Semmes, Bowen & Semines 25 South Charles Street, Suite 1400 11 Baltimore, Maryland 21201 410 576.4756 12 Pobrien@semmes com On Behalfo f the Defendants 13 Manitowac Cranes and Noland Company 14 15 MARIA JUAMBELTZ, ESQUIRE (Via Telephone) 16 MacDonald Law Group, LLC 11720 Beltsville Drive 17 Suite 550 Beltsville, Maryland 20795 18 301 2203481 ]gaba@macdonaldlawgroup com 19 On Behalf of Defendants, Craft Co , Schneider Electric Company, and 20 Krafft-Murphy, a dissolved Delaware Corporation 21 Page 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 Page 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 Page 4 i APPEAJRANES CONTINUED' JAMES T. SMITH, ESQUIRE j (Via Telephone) j Bodie, Dolma, Hobbs, Fnddell & i Grenzer, P.C. 1 21 Susquehanna A venue 1 Towson, M aryland 21204 1 410 823 1250 3 jtsm ith@ bodie-law com j On Behalf o f Defendant E L ? h Stebbm g & Co., Inc. (Third Party in i W olf Case) i ANNE W ILCOX LEW IS, ESQUIRE (Via Telephone) j K elley Jasons M cG ow an Spmelli ] Hanna & Reber, LLP j Tw o Liberty Place, Suite 1900 1 50 South 16th Street l i P hiladelphia, P en n sy lv an ia 19102 i 1 215.854.0658 awlewis@ kjmsh.com i On B ehalf o f the D efendant W alter E Campbell Company, Inc. ; i Also Present: Peter M cLaughlin, Quinn Emanuel 1 Summer Associate \ 1 1 \ Page 5 1 DEPOSITION OF ARTHUR M. LANGER, PhD j The Deposition o f Arthur M. Langer, s PhD, Expert W itness, taken by the Plaintiffs i and reported by Barbara J. Evans, Court ] Reporter and Notary Public, at the law offices I 1 o f Quinn, Emanuel, Urquhart & Sullivan, LLP, l 511 M adison A venue, 25th Floor, N ew York, N ew York 10022, on June 14, 2013, com m encing at 10:00 a m . i 3 ; 1 i j 4 4 7 ! EVANS REPORTING SERVICE I The M unsey B uilding, Suite 705 S even N orth C alvert Street 1? J Baltimore, M aiyland 21202 j 410.727.7100 800.256.8410 2 (Pages 2 to 5) Evans Reporting Service 800-256-8410 Arthur M. Langer, Ph.D. - 6/14/2013 Harold Goldsmith v. ACandS, Ine. Page 174 Page 176 ; 1 A No. You w ouldn't use that technique. 2 Q W ould you also agree w ith m e that in 1 A B ecause N um ber 8 agreed w ith N um ber 8 2 in our assays. 5 3 none o f the standard m ethodologies is SEM , 3 MR. HORTON: D o you want to identify 4 scanning electron m icroscopy, called for? 4 it? 5 M R. HORTON: Object to form. 6 THE WITNESS: W ell you could use 7 scanning electron microscopy with the proper 8 m agnifications and resolution. 5 MR. SMITH: Y es. 6 MR. HORTON: Identify the document, 7 Dr. Langer, just the particular docum ent. 8 TH E W IT N E SS: T h is is B o b N o la n 's 9 B Y MR. SMITH: 9 draft o f the specim ens that he recovered from 10 Q B ut you w ould agree w ith m e that it 10 storage. 11 is not referenced in N IO SH 7402, Y am ate, A H E R A ? 11 MR. SMITH: A ll right. M aybe w e 12 T hose are all T EM -based analyses, correct? 12 should mark that o n e as a separate deposition 13 MR. HORTON: Object to form. 1 3 exh ib it w h ich w ill be th e n ex t num ber, 8. 14 THE WITNESS: Y es. On the basis o f 14 (Langer D eposition Number 8 marked 15 those regulatory agencies, the instrument o f 15 for identification.) 16 choice is a transmission electron m icroscope. 16 THE W ITNESS: This is marked as 17 Q So obviously you would agree then if 17 Number 2. 18 an investigator used SEM or X R D to identify 18 BY M R. SMITH: 19 particles -- the presence or absence o f 20 asbestos in those particles -- that that w ould 21 b e a deviation from the standard m eth od ologies 19 Q B ut since I'm goin g to question you 20 about the individual o n es in there w e w ill m ake 21 a separate cop y for N um ber 8. Page 175 1 published by the government, in Yam ate and 2 AH ERA and NIOSH 7402? 3 MR. HORTON: Object to form, Page 177 1 A N o problem . 2 M R. HO RTO N: So part o f Exhibit 2 and 3 th en a separate o n e is E x h ib it 8? 4 incom plete hypothetical, assum es facts. 4 M R. SM ITH: Correct. 5 TH E W ITN ESS: It w ou ld not conform 6 with the instrumental requirements. 7 M R. SMITH: A ll right. That's all 8 the questions I have now. 9 And when w e com e back from lunch I 10 w ill have a few more. 11 Thank you, Dr. Langer. 12 (Luncheon recess -- 1:15 p.m.) 13 (After recess -- 2:15 p.m.) 14 B Y MR. SMITH: 15 Q I want to hand you, Dr. Langer, if I 5 B Y M R . SMITH: 6 Q Is there any significance, 7 Dr. Langer, to the fact that you did not 8 highlight the tw o Cashm ere B ouquet sam ples, 9 N u m b er 2 3 and 2 4 , o n th is E x h ib it 8? 10 A Because 23 and 24 w ere not num bers 11 fo u n d in -- w e r e n o t n u m b e r s o f p r o d u c ts n o ted 12 in th e stu d y . 13 Q Okay. 14 A In th e stu d y the products ran ge from 15 N um ber 1 to N um ber 21. 1 6 could what has been marked as Exhibit 2 and 16 1 7 there is Post-its on tw o different pages. 17 Q Referring to the 1976 paper? A Y es, yes. 18 (Document tendered to witness.) 18 M R. SM ITH: Okay. W e w ill get to 19 A Yes. 20 Q W hy did you highlight the talcum 21 products that you did on that page? Vv-Uri**v. 1 9 that in a m inute. 20 Let's mark this next docum ent I am 21 h an d in g y o u as th e n e x t E x h ib it N u m b er 9. 45 (Pages 174 to 177) Evans Reporting Service 800-256-8410 Arthur M. Langer, Ph.D. - 6/14/2013 Harold Goldsmith v. ACandS, Ine. Page 178 Page 180 1 (L anger D ep osition E xhibit N um ber 9 1 years ago. 2 m arked for identification.) 2 Q R oughly during the analyses o f the 3 (D ocu m en t tendered to w itn ess.) 3 talcum pow der products you analyzed for the 4 B Y M R . SM ITH: 4 1976 paper? 5 Q W ill y o u p lease id en tify that 5 M R. HO RTO N: Object to form, 6 docum ent for m e. 6 mischaracterizes testim ony. 7 (docum ent tendered to w itn ess.) 7 Q Is that fair? 8 A T h is is a listin g o f th e ta lcs w h ich 8 A T his represents the assays conducted 9 w ere ex a m in ed w h ic h w e r e sh o w n to con tain 9 at that tim e on those sam ples, yes. 10 a n th o p h y llite a n d /o r trem o lite. 10 Q O kay. A nd the next docum ent that you 11 Q D uring your an alysis for the 1976 11 have in front o f you , I think w e established 12 paper? 12 earlier the handwritten marginalia is yours? 13 A Y es. 13 A O n the biology o f talc, yes. 14 Q A nd w hat do those num bers represent? 14 Q Okay. 15 M R . H O R T O N : O bject to form . 15 A C onsum er talcum s. 16 TH E W ITN ESS: T he study numbers 16 Q Y es. Let's read this and w e w ill 17 correspond to the num bers in the study. It is 17 m ake that a separate exhibit as w ell please. 18 a strange redundancy but it is so. 18 That w ill be the next number, 10. 19 B Y M R . SM ITH: 19 A I have a better idea. T his is the 20 Q la m sorry. Is C ashm ere B ouquet 20 d o c u m e n t --1 g u e ss y o u ca n d o th is , b u t th e 21 listed N um ber O ne? 21 d ocu m en t w hich is th e reprint has m y highlights Page 179 Page 181 1 A Y es. 1 and has m arginalia. 2 Q So if I go to the 1976 paper for 2 Q la m sorry. I w ant that one. 3 Sam ple N um ber O ne w ou ld that equate? 3 A Y ou w a n t th at one. T h at is fine. 4 A Y es. 4 C an w e X erox this before w e leave because I 5 Q O kay. A nd sim ilarly, w eigh t by 5 w ou ld like m y com m en ts ju st to have them . 6 percentage, w hat did you report at that tim e? 6 M R. SM ITH: O f course. 7 M R . H O R T O N : O bject to form . 7 M R. HORTON: Yes. 8 TH E W IT N E SS: W e reported 20 percent 8 THE W ITNESS: Good. Done. 9 fiber content by w eigh t o f anthophyllite and 9 M R. SM ITH: So that w ill be 10 trem olite. 10 D eposition Exhibit N um ber 10. 11 Q A nd w as that the highest o f the 11 (L anger D eposition Exhibit N um ber 10 12 cosm etic talcum p ow d er sam ples that you tested 12 m arked for identification.) 13 at the tim e? 13 B Y M R. SM ITH: 14 A Y es. 14 Q A ll right. 15 Q W as this docum ent generated at the 15 A P lease. 1 6 tim e in the 1970s? 16 Q If 1 could ask you som e general 17 A la m not certain o f the tim e that 17 questions, you can ju st put that aside. If w e 1 8 th a t lis t w a s g e n e r a te d b u t it w a s in th e p a st 1 8 g e t to it, w e w ill get to it. 19 and not a current docum ent. 19 Prior to today did cou n sel for 20 Q Okay. 20 C olgate provide to y o u any docum ents to review 21 A In the past m eaning m ore than 20 21 that reflect at the tim e asbestos in Cashm ere Evans Reporting Service 800-256-8410 46 (Pages 178 to 181)