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MINUTES ' of the SPRING MEETING NATIONAL INSULATION MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION New York, N, Y. April 6, 1965 The meeting was called to order at :15 A* M, by President P. D. Kaley with the following in attendance: Baldwin-Ehret-Hill, Lac* Trenton, N, J, M. M* Wilson E, E. Drake The Eagic-Picher Company Cincinnati, Ohio L, T, Montant, Jr, Fibreboard Paper Products Corp, San Francisco, Calif, D, M. Nelson J, W. Cordrey Forty-Eight Insulations, Inc, Aurora, 111, T, S, Clousing Gustin-Bacon Mfg, Company Kansas City 5, Mo, F. W, Muller Johns-Manville Sales Corp, New York, N. Y. M, W, Burleson C. E, Ernst A* L, Wallner Oweas-Coraing Fiberglas Corp, Toledo, Ohio J, F, Vyrerbert Pittsburgh Coning Corp, Pittsburgh, Pa* R* E, Buckley R* E, Fuhs Pittsburgh Plate Qass Company Pittsburgh, Pa* P, D. Kaley R L, Loeffier H. O, Mulkey The Ruberoid Company New York, N. Y. Cadwalader, Wickersham lc Taft R* W, Henry G D, Reycraft 2 National Insulation Mfrs. Assn. J. M. Barnhart * 0 0 0 The death of N. L. Morell was announced with regret. * ** APPROVAL OF MINUTES A motion was made, seconded and passed That the Minutes of the Meeting of October 5, 1964, as bulletined by the Association be approved. TRAFFIC COMMITTEE REPORT Chairman A, J. Wallner reported on the activities of the Committee in accordance with the Minutes of their Meeting which is attached hereto and made part of these Minutes. MARKETING RESEARCH COMMITTEE REPORT Chairman R. L. Loeffler reported as follows: A review has been made of minutes from Marketing Research Committee meetings, and summary reports submitted by the committee chairman in prior years. This review identified assignments in four general areas which can be classified as ECONOMIC OUTLOOK, GOVERNMENT STATISTICS, NIMA STATISTICS, and SPECIAL PROJECTS. ECONOMIC OUTLOOK: The Marketing Research Committee prepared a brief economic outlook for industrial insulations in certain prior years. To be useful, an econ omic statement should be based on extensive study of demand factors and lead-lag relationships. Without such background preparation, an economic presentation can be little more than a re-hash of the general statements already available to all of us through a wide variety of business publica tions. While the Committee will continue such a program if requested to do so, we recommend that this activity be discontinued. GOVERNMENT STATISTICS: The Marketing Research Committee is working with other insulation trade associations and the Bureau of Census toward improving government reporting of production and shipments statistics. Our aim is to have the Bureau ef Census conduct an annual census of all thermal and acoustical insulations using a uniform market/product basis. 3 MARKETING RESEARCH COMMITTEE REPORT (confd*) An outline of our auggeited market/product breakdown waa aubmitted to the Bureau cf Cenaua on December 21* 1964. A further definition of the equipment and induet rial marketa ie to be aubmitted oon* and will be followed by another meeting thie Spring with Mr* C. Wildes* Aaaiatant to Chief, Industry Division* Bureau of Censue* We are following this project doeely in hopes that it will be ready in time to accommodate 1965 data* NIMA STATISTICS: The report form and product groupings used for reporting NIMA shipments remained basically unchanged from December 1958*1963* The only modi-- fication to the instructions, during thie period* eliminated separate report* lag of insulations by temperature service range in Product Group "A"* A new form was introduced in January 1964 to accommodate reporting by state* and a revision in July consolidated 85% magnesia with calcium . - silicate and related insulations* A further revision in January 1965 elim inated the former cold use board and under 4*1/4 lb*/cu* ft* felt categories* These latter two items are now reported along with the over 4*1/4 lb* /cu* ft* felts in a new "Boards It Felts" category* which provides the distinction of "Plain" vs "Faced fc Coated" products* These changes in product group ings were to prevent disclosure of individual member shipments* and in response to a shife in the market* A summary table has been prepared to reflect these changes in NIMA shipments for 1958*1964, and is sub mitted as part of this committes report* Some members found the conversion to stats reporting more difficult than anticipated* and therefore consolidated reporting of NIMA shipments by state was not accomplished until the September report was relsased early in December* This laade to the Committeefa recommendation that we reappraise the instructions concerning due date* We believe that the present 50 day plus lag could be cut to three weeks with tha cooperation of each member* This would assure receipt of the consolidated report from Price Waterhouse with only a one month lag* At the last committee meeting* one member suggested that Pries Waterhouse record the date each company report is received* and enter these dates on the consolidated report released to all members* This practice has been used in other trade associations* and is credited with reducing the reporting interval whan employed* A new report series on Air Duct Systems was established in January 1965 to accommodate state reporting* This new series is merely a recap of select items currently reported in the "Boards It Felts: Fscsd lc Coated" category on the ragular reporting form* Tha Committee reccmmeads that members also report 1964 shipmeats of round and rectangular duct to serve as a base year* ( 4 MARKETING RESEARCH COMMITTEE REPORT (confd,) A listing of ail products in each category on the NIMA report form was prepared by company and trade name, and sent to each member on Dec ember 17, 1964 The Committee proposes to update this listing annually, or as requested by the Board of Directors, This listing is part of our continuing effort to ensure accuracy and utility in the NIMA statistical program, SPECIAL PROJECTS: The NIMA Board of Directors is considering the advisability of extending membership to producers of cellular organic insulations. The invitation would cover only that segment which is for contract application or main tenance in the mechanical segment of construction, that is: for job-site application to pipe, vessel and equipment, duct and cold storage. Excluded by definition are insulations for the roof and walls in metal buildings and in other st ructures. Also excluded are insulations for acoustical control, and-factory applied insulations for appliance, transportation equipment, pre-fab cold storage, etc, . A statistical profile of the industrial insulation contract markets served by NIMA is presented in summary tables submitted as part of this com mittee report. Estimates provided for the year 1964 are those established by the Marketing Research Committee, and are offered to indicate the extent to which cellular insulations now participate in the NIMA markets. The Committee has left the projection of eventual market share of competing insulations to individual snsmber companies for obvious reasons. As for the matter at hand, we do not believe that it is practical to extend member ship to producers of eellular organic insulations at this time. This con clusion is based on the following observations: . The predominant cellular organic insulation found in the NIMA contract markets at present is polystyrene. This material is shipped as slab stock, or bead board to local distributors; or as beads to local molders. Polystyrene then moves into many diverse end-uses, and the basic producers-can only estimate the annual consumption by major end-use. Marketing is regional in nature due to . the relative coets of shipping and the subsequent advantage held by local molders, Urethanes may be shipped as slab stock; oras-a system of components to be molded locally, poured-in-place, or applied by spray gun. The list of producers i long and still growing and the matter of identifying end-use is even more problematic than that experienced by polystyrene producers. 5 MARKETING RESEARCH COMMITTEE REPORT (corned.) -Finally, the present NIMA members account for the great bulk of industrial insulations through associated contract operations. With this fact in mind, the Com mittee suggests that NIMA members will also account for the great bulk of organic insulations sold for in dustrial application, la fact, some NIMA members now include organic cellular insulations in their product line, COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS: In light of the committee report on organic insulations, it would appear that the members should be polled to determine interest in reporting their shipments of organic cellular insulations for job-site application to the mechanical segment of construction. Separate identification of component systems, and of rigid or elastomeric pipe and block insulations could be provided. The Committee recommends that msmbers be contacted to determinewhether the current lag in reporting shipments can be reduced. If it appears that members can speed reporting without undue hardship, then the committee further recommends that Price Waterhouse record the date that each member's report is received. While we understand that Philip Carey has been contacted in the past con cerning membership in NIMA, they do represent the only significant industrial insulation producer that is not a member. The committee sug gests that the stats reporting of shipments may help influence Philip Carey because of their regional nature. PIPE INSULATION MARKET: YEAR 1964 MANUFACTURER'S SHIPMENTS Material White Goods (2) Fibrous Cellular: Rigid Flexible Other (3) Total Temperature Services Under 35F 35 to 350F 350F to 1,000F Over 1, 000F Total Value (S Mil) (i) $ 16.0 26.0 13.0 *0 2.0 $ 63.0 Per Cent 11 56 28 5 100 6 MARKETING RESEARCH COMMITTEE REPORT (cont'd,) (1) Net dollar value at the plant. Excludes freight, all discounts and allowances, and credit on returned and damaged goods. (2) Diatomaeeous silica, calcium eilieate, 85% magnesia, and asbestos fiber, . (3) Blanket type, corrugated, reflective, etc, VESSEL AND EQUIPMENT INSULATION MARKET: YEAR 1964 MANUFACTURER'S SHIPMENTS Material White Goods (2) Fibrous Cellular (3) Other (4) Total Value <$ MU) (1) 5 6,0 8.0 6*0 1*0 Tzi.o Temperature Service Under 35'"F 35F to 350F 350F to 1,000F Over 1,000F Total Per Cent 20 28 48 -4 100 " (1) Net dollar value at the plant. Excludes freight, all discounts and allowances, and credit on returned and damaged goods* (2) Diatomaeeous silica, calcium silicate, 85% magnesia, and asbestos fiber* (3) - Cellular glass, plastic, and elastomeric, (4) Cork, reflective, etc* 7 MARKETING RESEARCH COMMITTEE REPORT (coat'd.) CONDITIONED AIR DUCT INSULATION MARKET: YEAR 1964 MANUFACTURERS SHIPMENTS Product (2) Liner and Wrap Pre-Fab System* Total Value (S Mil) i 23.0 7.0 : i 30.0 (1) (1) Nat dollar valua at the plant. Exclude* freight, all discount* and allowance*, and credit on returned and damaged good*. (2) Fibrous insulation* dominate the air duct insulation market, with cellular material* representing less than $1 million of the total. COLD STORAGE INSULATION MARKET: YEAR 1964 MANUFACTURER'S SHIPMENTS FOR JOB SITE APPLICATIONS Material Cellular (2) Other (3) Total Value (S Mfl) $ 13,0 2.0 15.0 ill (1) Net dollar value at the plant. Excludes freight, all discounts and allowances, and credit on returned and damaged goods, (2) Cellular glass and plastic. . (3) Fiber glass, rockwool, cork. Palco wool. etc. Note: Amounts represent only material applied at the job site. 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Losse's absence, J, M, Barnhart read the report as fallows: The Rock !c Slag Section met two times during 1964, at New York, January 30 and a second time at New York September 17* Both meetings were held just previous to the C-16 ASTM meetings which were at Philadelphia and Montreal respectively. At these two meetings the following topics were discussed: 1* Thiclaess of pipe covering required to prevent condensation under various standard conditions cf temperature and humidity. 2m Revisions to Federal Specifications HH<-X-00S58 and HH-I-00559. 3* Standard lacings lor pipe insulations. 4* The substance of a proposed Federal Specification lor Mineral Fiber Duel Lining Material* 5* The elimination of liber diameter requirements Irom Federal and Military Specs* 6* Deflations of terms used to describe the composition of thermal insulations. 7* Pipe covering thicknesses to be used in G*S* A* Specifications* I* The New York State specification pertaining to thermal insulation* 9* G* S, A, Standard Specification lor Piping, Ducts k Related Equipment* 10* Review of "k" values to be published in the ASHRAE Guide. 11* Review of ASTM specs requiring revisions* 12* Review and changes to Chapter 39 of the Bureau of Ships Technical Manual. 10 ROCK 8c SLAG SECTION RPORT (contM.) 13* Significance of AQL inspection* as related to insulations,' GLASS SECTION REPORT Chairman C, E, Ernst reported as follows: 1 The latest draft of the condensation thickness tables for 90 F and 90, 80, 70 and 50%RH, compiled from individual members, con ductivities and thicknesses, was reviewed. Certain errors and inconsistencies were pinpointed, requiring a new draft. The value of theSOftRH thicknesses was also discussed with agree ment that they should be retained. The revision should complete the tables for use by the member companies, 2m Draft revisions of Federal Specifications HH-Z-00558a and 00559a . dated 1965 were subject to extended discussion by the Committee, the previous specifications dated November, 1963 were based on drafts combining five previous Federal specifications offered by N1MA. A year ago the committee suggested that the current specificatione be revised to the form of the NIMA drafts for clarity and conveni ence of use. In the meantime a directive required that the specifications be referred to ASTM material specifications. The apparent purpose of this directive was cost reduction. Thus the draft revisions, except for listing of insulation forms, types and classes and pertinent reference specifications and standards, etc., are a simple listing of ASTM specifications with exceptions bringing them in line with the 1963 specifications. The committee could see eventual advantages to both the Govern ment agencies and NIMA in this approach, but immediately they eould see serious disadvantages. The ultimate advantage to the agencies would be automatic up-dating ^ specifications with considerably less man-hours involved, NIMA would gain by having only to concentrate its activity in ASTM, The disadvantages to the agencies would be ' 1, Loss of control of specifications 2, ASTM might eancel specifications without referenc to HH-1-00558 and 00559. 11 GLASS SECTION RZPORT (confd. ) 3. Current ASTM specifications are too broad to satisfy agency requirements, A All designing agencies, contractors, suppliers, etc,, will have to maintain current ASTM specification files* Since ASTM specifications are not all current with HH-I-00558 and 00559 this will cause confusion, particularly with the exceptions included in the 1965 draft revisions. Accordingly the Committee agreed that NXMA should strongly recom mend against the ASTM- approach for the present, and in favor cf the NIMA versions of HH-I-00558 and 00559, Since these specifications were on the agenda for the March 16 meeting of the Government T It R Committee it was also agreed that J. M. Barnhart and Washington members of the Committee discuss the matter with the proper Government personnel prior to this meeting. ~ The Committee also agreed that if the directive was mandatory the latent might be maintained by having the T It R Committee write all materials specifications. A review of HH-I-00545 dated October, 1964, indicated the need for a number of minor changes plus a major revision of the table of sound absorption coefficients. Accordingly members will submit new values for this purpose. 3, It was agreed that a common basis for reporting air friction characteristics of Mineral Fiber duct liners would be friction correction curves based on the absolute roughness factor "e". The corrections would apply to the ASHJRA-E Guide friction values for galvanised steel. The Technical Section of the Duct Committee is to consider attenuation values as a common basis for reporting sound absorption characteristics of mineral fiber ducts. The task group on Mechanical Design of Air Duct Systems is to complete the second phase of their work. 4. The current draft of "X" values for the ASHRAE Guide were reviewed and J. M. Barnhart is to issue a new draft for final consideration. 12 GLASS SECTION REPORT (coat'd.) 5, The committee was asked to consider color coding of cartons* it was agreed that this is a merchandising rather than a technical problem, 6, Other business, a, Experience has shown that committee work on Government application specifications could be simplified if such spec ifications were common for the same types of applications. Tt was agreed that value engineers of all government agencies should be approached in this direction with the argument that they also would gain by reduction in work load, b, The committee considered a suggestion that M2LX*2818A maximum binder content be increased from 1,57* to 5,0% to cover low density metal faced mineral fiber blankets, ' ' An alternative suggestion to add a Class 2 catsgory for low density blanket will also be considered, MOLDED SECTION REPORT In Chairman D, Davis1 absence J, M. Barnhart reported on the activities of the Committee in accordance with the Minutes of their meeting which is attached hereto and made part of theee Minutes, DUCT SYSTEMS COMMITTEE REPORT Messrs C, E, Ernst and J, M, Barnhart re "ted on the activities of the Committee is accordance with the Minus of their meetings which are attached hereto end made part of these Minutes, 2t was reported that Mr, H, Perrins, code consultant for the duct systems program, had died suddenly on March 23, 1965, APPOINTMENT Of THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE President P, D, Xaley appointed Meeere, M, W, Burleson, Chairman, T, S, Clousing and D, M, Nelson es the Nominating Committee to propose a slate of officers and directors for nomination for election at the Annual Meeting,