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nasui casorns oilfist c a n n o L January 25, 19^3 Minutes o f Meeting
1* She i-Sti o e e tlsg of the fed eral C ecolttec on Fest Control ygjj b e ll es J a s tir y 25* 1?5, e t 9:30 a .u ., la Raco 3055/ South Funding, U* S* X epertaert of Health,, Edicatloa, aad Welfare*
2* Presort a t the aeetln g were:
* P crcrtrcrt of Agriculture ' Ur. Robert J* Aaficrsoa Mr Kenneth C* UaDcer Mr* X* M* Docoo
of Defease Kr, George L. Huttoo
It* Col* Harold D* 5cvmo
Den^rtaest of the In te rio r : . *' -*:**! Mr* Walter V* Dyfcstr*
D ercrtoest o f E ealth, Education, aad Welfare Dr. Sssucl V. sisaoac Ur. Alas Donaldsos (vice Or* Frindlo)
. IT. VilUfis Esrvltx Mr* Ttaofc J* McFarland *
D erertnert o f HCTialag asfl flrhaa Develoroeat ) t . Leocard J* Croraleckl
fc tle s n l Science Foundation r. V U liaa A* Hiering
Drmrtreot of State Kr. 2* B* E* Se&bltt
Others la Attendance Mr* Justus C* Ward
Mr* Marvin .L. T ates Hr, H. V. Boys
?C?C S e c re tariat
Dr* Will lao M* Upholt Dr* V U llaa 5* Kurmy Mrs* Dorothy K. Welch
3* Hr.' l y t r i r a , Vlce-Chalmaa, prodded* . He acked Dr* tfrholt to In fers the Coouittoe -on recent developoenta concerning iha
proposed Jo in t oeotiag between tho Canadian Federal I n te r dcpartcental Coaolttee oa Ffcoticideo (Flap) end our ova Cccclttcc* A l e t t e r has been received iron Dr* Olen o f the
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PTCP asking fo r an In d e fin ite delay In th e ir v i s i t to Ibahingtoo fo r several reasons. Dr, Olen la aoving to Baglnnd as S e len tlflo Advisor to the Cemoavealth S ecretariat, another ocsber la seriously 111, and a t le a s t one other change In oeoberehip Is expected soon*
4 . Hr. Enrvltx announced th a t FISA has developed a position oa residues "c? two herb icid es, as follow s: no objection v l l l be Interposed by H1A to residues o f 0*1 ppm of 2,4-9 or 0,01 ppo o f S llrex in poieble water vbere uses are under Federal and S tate supervision. Such supervision Is to Include cooltooing th a t vould provide residue data 00 s h e llfis h and potahla v a te r. A one y e a r's te n ta tiv e r e g is tra tio n vac a lso suggested and th is vuo accepted by Dr. Ecys vho In tu rn v l l l advice the ad bee . co en lttce of the UT-Dl/IC^\ on herbicides. Dr. P e w its fu rth er sta te d th a t a orao v l l l usdw btedly go frea FI** to ICM vhlcb v l l l sp ell-o u t d ctollo. In ar.cver to a question rolsed by Hr . Yoteftj the concensus vqi th o t the agency th * t applies e ith e r of u^Lv a a te rla ls la the agency rcr.pon&lble fo r a;y r opr la te oo o ltcrin g . Refrrvnco vso eude to the TVA oonltorlnc study la the current Issue of the Pesticides Hooltcrlog Journal.
? Dr. Hurray reported on progrecs in the Id e n tific a tio n of agency representatives to .the new subcacslttee on packaging, storing, traafapartlng, and n u k e tin g of pesticid es and the disposal of pectleidal vsetes. Bases of representatives vere read; they are being asked fo r a cutu&Uy agreeable oeetlsg date early la February. Dr, E srv tts said THk v l l l be casing a representative soon. Objectives and aaae of the eubccanlttee, an election o f o ffic e rs and development o f a c h a rter v l l l b e .f i r s t Ite s s of business. Dr. Anders03 inquired I f the FCFC would have the opportunity to rcviev the ch arter and noted the benefit th a t e ig h t be derived f r e e having as early oeetlag v ith the oev grw p. Both suggestions v l l l be carried out. Hr. B eabltt referred to the Departoent of Omnsportotloas Baranfoua M aterials Begulatlons as published la the Dccenter 29 19$7 Issue o f the Federal E eg io tcr. Be has d istrib u te d thea to a l l D. 8 Ibboselea fo r the lo fo rsatlo o of In te rested foreign governpents. Dr. Asdernon ascribed the genesis of the regulations t o U5DA - and s p e c ific a lly Dr. Bays - because of I t s coocera about accidents Involving pesticides.
Closely related to the aforementioned Is the statu s of a r eport developed under th e auspices of HEW following poisoning la the Hear Bast. She Secretary of HEWhas established an ad hoc c o c altte e to consider recccnendations oade by the IBS task group Investigating the Aocrlean-shipped flo u r contaalnated by Sndrla vhlcb vas loaded on the deck above the flo u r. Dr. Donaldson I s Chairman of the c c m ltte e vblch v l l l review developments since the Incident In th e lienr E ast. Hr. SVsbltt v l l l oake available 1 copy of the Bogota re p o rt and the TIJuann rep o rt fo r repro duction by the S e c re ta ria t fo r d istrib u tio n to Beaters of the RPC.
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i* Hr fefcstra caked fo r reporte o f Subeccnitteoe# Oo b e h a lf o f tE e ltic ltc ric g eubcacaitteo, Dr, Upbolt said th a t contributors to the jo in t Deeting of the Monitorlng and Peek-arch Subcoooittee v l l l be given the choice of e ith e r alloying a cunoary o f th e ir contribution or lta t i t l e only to be carried la the Daterla 1 to t e cent to a l l attendante* * lso , an ad hoc group I s reviewing the current statu s of a ir cocltorlag (th e oce eoopoaect th a t vas not Included In the catiac& l Pesticide Monitoring Progran a t I t s Incepttoo)*
I t Elcsoes advised th a t the bth Issue of the Pesticide X saltarlng
Journal has a ir papers at*liable sad Is thus proceeding satisfacto rily * Be an ticip ated sc p rctlccs f a r the Journal as r e s u lt o f the B review o f i t s continued necessity, reportedly scheduled fo r June*
Be stressed the d e s ira b ility of a backlog o f papers fo r the Journal and encouraged c<sbers to help In th is regard*
Zbcfc wing Dosltorlcg has been reduced to cooc In tvo y ears,
a t cordis,; to Hr* ty cetra* Ccspleo taken along A tlantic and
Pacific flyvaya
Kigjitr asounte of ISA* than elsewhere*
bu t th is f o il ova use patterns and is not disturbing* Cr* Andersoo
noted th a t the Ib tls c a l Actdeny of Ccleoce study 00 the e ffe c ts "~J
of certain levels of pesticides la the enviroaoent Is in progress!
Hr. Valuer Is the esns&ct fo r core Infcreatio n , Mr* Walker
rureariseT the 2^5 Friday and Saturday (January 19-20) bearing la
te re s c f (EDA and EEIi personnel vfcooe cases vere fa n lU a r to the
Ccoslttee* PES v i l l hsve I ts tu rn to t e s t if y In a fev weeks, be
Hr* T ates, repr esenting the Research B ub can lttee, had so r e p o rt.
Per the Z c fo ra tlo a Suheaonlttee, Dr* P A o lt t old o f the cccpletico o f rep o rts by each Departsest on dep&rcacatoX p e stic id e Infcrea tlo o a c tiv itie s * lbese v l l l be cccptled and oade available to th e PCFC*
Also noted, vas the In v ita tio n extended by Dr* M lcter to th e 8ubcccolttce to bold a fu tw * o eetlsg In A tlanta where I t could bcccoe d ire c tly f a n ilia r with the IBS iafcro atlo o prograo* The A pril oeetlng has thus been te n ta tiv e ly s e t fo r Atlanta, but v l l l
depend upon the c e n te r's a b ility to fin d tra v e l funds a t th is tio e ,
February 2nd v l l l be the f i r s t se etlag o f the Frograa Rerlev Subcodnittee th is year, Dr, P?holt said* Sbere Is a su b stan tial
backlog of progress to bTxevleved*
7* Xnfareatlon lte s a vere so licited* Dr* Anderson noted the s u it
f ile d by the Envlrcacental Defense tu n i (DFj i s Manhattan t o
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Michigan cln beetle
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Michigan Court of Appeals bad thrown out an e a r lie r s u it deslgaed
to rrevent the Michigan Seportsoat o f A griculture freo applying
d lo ld rla for Jopnncoc beetle control in Pcrrlen County, Michigan*
Za ancvcrlng le tte r s oo th is subject sent to V5DX, Mr, Pykstra
asked the w riters to cubnlt in fcreation they o l ^ i t have" t o t b o
BAS, re la tiv e to th e ir current study* 5here was. a general
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discusslco ec a suggestion by Or. ltlerlng th a t data ha co llected
to show a decline In the use of W I by the Federal Gcrversoent.
fio deeisieo v at reached; however, a uoe-history type o f tctola
Dade available by Dr. Knlpllng t o th e HAS re c e n tly w ill he
provided the S e c re ta ria t by Dr. Anderson fo r d ls tr ib u tlc o t o th e
fCFC.
l a reporting E3F a c tiv ity , a Kev Torfc Tinea e d ito r ia l suggested a review group f a r such problems. Dr. LpHolt c a lle d th e E d ito r's a tte n tio n to the PC?C la a l e t t e r th a t was reviewed by Xr. Farta of the fcfam ation Subcoccittee. A eacperable e rtle le In Science resulted la a d o lla r response.
Mr. McFarland announced th a t by the end o f January, FDA w ill propose reductions la c e rtain DDT tolerances fre e 7 ??<= to 3f ypa and 1 ppa v lth the expression of In te n t ion to fu rth e r reduce a l l DDT tolerance* to 1 ppo by the end of the proving season lo 9C3. the proposal la based oc surreys by FDA and IGLA cbcclata shoving oeodlesaly high allowances a t present.
8 Dr. Bornlg's request of the Cccolttce to assess the sta tu s of cu rren t knowledge os r a t control and explore avenues fo r irprovaooot vas considered, hr . Sykstra and Dr. Uphalt xrovlded a d d itio n a l
in fa ro atte a and In te rp re ta tio n obtained In OSS as requested by C h anas Geiry e a r lie r . Dr. Donaldson cuaarlsed PCS's plana fo r
adnlsiotering the grant approach specified by C onfess In auth o risin g funds. These plana v l l l be guidelines only, as derived e s s e n tia lly fre a a rep o rt by a cc o eltte e under Ctairoanshlp o f &% Donaldson. Mr, Dytstra esphasiaed the CSTfa -In te rp re ta tio n th a t broad p o licy Is needed f e r the fu tu re , and th a t th is vould transcend the cu rrent
progran as administered by the TES t o . C tam ieck l. who worked on the re p o rt and whose agoney la v ita lly ' concerned with b en efit*
to be obtained fre e th e IBS e f f o r t, sees d e s ir a b ility In g e n e r a l. po licy establishment without c o n flic t v lth the FES g ran t progrs
to s ta te and lo c a l health departaeots.
Dr. Slsnocs opposed actio n on the p a rt o f th e FCFC. Mr. Button saw no c o n flic t between FES pursuing I t s assigneent and FCFC . ref.pondlng to a request to a s s i s t In the development o f general policy In the publie ln te re o t. There were ad d itio n al eoaoenta fevering FCFC sponsoring a panel fo r th is purpose. Dr. Anderson eade the suggestion th a t the C ccplttee accept Dr. Earnig* a req u est; he also thought our l e t te r should provide Dr. Horolg an opportunity fo r c larificatio n , particularly as to a source of fin an cial support f o r the p ro je c t. Mr. Dykstra, a* Tlee-C halrsas, Judged th e consensus in favor of thin dportant f i r s t e ffo rt to chape policy and asked th e Secretary to prepare a rep ly t o th e OST. Be a ls o atfked for copis of Dr. Donalds00's rep o rt f a r FCFC d is trib u tio n .
9 . The next aeetlng o f the Federal C coaittee on P est Control w ill b e held on Wednesday, February 21, 19**3, a t 9:30 a .o ., in Food 306j , ffoith Building, 0 . 8. Department of S ealth , Education, and W elfare.
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Fsanuu. c o m t t err l o r cchirol Kin u tes c f M eetlac, February l h , 1969
1 . *fiie 56th meeting of th e Federal C ooslttee 00 Feet Control vos held a t 1:30 p * n ., 00 Tuesday, February i u , 19*9$ la Roaa 11*09, FB #3, U. 5 . Department o f Bealth, Zducatlcn, aod V elfar*.
2. Pre*Git at the acetlng vere:
Department of Defease
Colonel Robert K. A1*t " Kr. George 1 . Luttoo
Department of the I n te r io r Dr. Daniel L. Lredy Hr* Tbrjaas Carver
Hr* V alter V. Dykstra
. Department of A griculture Hr. Kenneth C. Walker Mr. Dcuudd P. GraLaa (vie* Mr. Bacon)
Department o f Health, Education, and Welfare
Hr. Frank J . HsFarlaal
Dr. V illiaa Kcrvitx
Dr. John J . Hanlon
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Dr. Arthur 8 . Volff
Others
K r. Eugene K. F a ria s, Chairman, In fcrnatloo Subccoalttee Dr. Warren C. Shew, Chairman, Safety Subcommittee K r. J u s tu s C. Word, AID Dr. Donald King, Q7T
D r.'R ichard R. Bates, Rational Cancer I n s t i tu t e , VIS Dr. HrJiy V. Keys, D irector, P esticid es Regulation D ivision, AR3 D r. Eugene H. Dustmen, D irector, Patuxent V lld llfe Research Center Dr. L ucille 7 . J tlc k e l, Patuxent W ildlife Research Center
t o . A llen J . Xnrnll, Bureau of Sport F ish eries and V lld llfe
PCFC S e c re ta ria t . Dr. V illi as Upholt
Dr. W illies J . liurrsy
Mrs. Dorothy K. Welch
3* Hr. Hutton, Vice Chairman, presided In the absence of th e Chairman. V isitors vere introduced.
A. Dr. I n c lile F. S tic k e l of the Patuxent W ildlife Research Center, rep o rted an the e ffe c ts of DDT and I t a m etabolite* on B a lla id
'ducks and American sporrov hawks.
She said th a t experiments .performed by R. 0 . Heath, J . 7* K reltser, and J . V. Spunn of the Jectlon of Taxi colOQf of the Patuxent Wild* l i f e Research Center showed th a t low lev els of DDT and of DDL, one
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Of tiw p r in c ip a l cet Abolite of DOT if f iif le a n tly .reduced tiw reproductive
success of o a lla r d duck*.
Th* ehealcals ver* sdxed v ith tba d ie t 1b aaousta th a t occur c iw w ly la the environnent. Reproductive aucceaa of dosed birds vas c o c ^ r c d v ith th a t of co o tro la. S ta tis tic a lly ai3ific n t difference* were ev id en t, aa follow*:
(1) Dese l b ird s cracked o r broke a g rea ter percentage of th e ir eggs than did control*.
(2) S h ells o f egg* la id by dosed b ird s were th in n er thaa w r e those of central*.
( 3) Ihbrycoated eggs fro* doaed b ird s revolted la fewer dwelllogs th a t survived fo r 2 weeks than d l l f r a c e n tra ls.
Dr. S tlchel reported a lso th a t erperiaeot* performed by R. D. fc>rtr ad 1 * If. Wienwyer of th e Jectlo o of Upland fceolGgy eio*rd th a t lew lev els o f DDT plu* d le ld rln la the d ie t of sparrow hawks reduced eggshell tu ie io r a* of tre a te d bird, p ar Alllin g r e s u lt A with the M lla rd s .
The p a r tic u la r e ie a if le a a c e o f the* flzdiag* i s th a t they estahliA h a cause-&nd-cffe e t re lA tio o tb ip th a t had been hypothesized freo fie ld observation* Hegehell thlelaess cf birds of prey declined significantly 1b the * id -f e rtie s l a C rest B rita in Kid th e United S ta te s . U. 1 . studies v ere code by J . J . Hickey and D. T. Anderson c f th U niversity o f Wisconsin, supported by the Sureau cf Sport F isheries sad W ildlife sod in cooperation v ith th e Patuxent W ildlife Research Center.
Dr. S tic k e l asid t h a t th e colony w ill be sa c rific e d next sooth, when tissue residues w ill be driernlaed; hopefully, the Rational heart In stitu te w ill study the easy syriens.
5* Dr* Richard B. Bates c f th e Rational Cancer I n s titu te , reported research findings re s u ltin g from a, contract v ith Sloaetlc* Research laboratory, re le t ire to carcinogenicity of certain pesticides; results are not yet coqpletely analyzed* i
6 * The S afety/S ubeosittee'a re c o ncilendatlcp concerning an Investigation o f p o ssib le'reu se of p esticid e o atsin ers to hold food and feed, vos read by Mr. button. Background ln fo rx atlcn provided to ICFC senbers helped t o point up the need f o r such so lsre s tig a tlo n , and TZk agreed to ask t h e i r D is tr ic t Inspectera t o look in to the n atter* Dr. Shaw pointed
out the necessity fo r close liaiso n v ith the Departaent cf Transportation | ' end the Coosur and Marketing Service of the Departaent of A griculture.
7* The Ad Hoc Task C ro p on Aolnotrlaxole vos a c t ready to l vpcirt e t th is *' a e e tln g . Subseuent to i t s i n i t i a l seeling the Task Croup learned of
th e rep o rt fron the Blonetlce Research Laboratory and would lik e to review th is report and s e t t egsdo before reporting to the Comities*
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Tb9 C a n a tts* reviewed the d r s f t o f "Too Rais of tb s Federal C am lttee eo Pest Coctroi Review of Federal Control Operations," u revised by Hr. McFarland on January 23, 19^9/ sd attached to the agenda fo r t h is B erttn ^ . Discussion resu lted In one wadifle c tio n , vhlch Is r e f le c te d l a Appendix A. The vtcteaent v u adopted by the C oB aittee^r
. P r. Shear reported th a t the Safety Subeoaalttee had reviewed, a t l t a a e stin g February 17, 1969, the Issuance of the Federal Trade C c m iiilo n (dated Februs^y 5# 19^9)# r e la tin g to the advertising o f ecoooclc poisonings. Tue Subccccdttec re c c se sd e d th a t FCPC I n f a n t Joseph V. Shea, Secretary o f the Federal Trade C o s is s lc o , o f I t s approval of: "lictiee of Fom ulstion of a Revision of the Proposed
Trade Regulation Jhile Relating to the A dvertising of Ecooanie Poisons," as issued February 5, 1909.
I t fu rth er suggested th at Hr. Shea be advised th a t the C om lttee applauds th e I n itia tiv e in th is area and would encourage vigorous enforcement of the proposed Trade Reguletloo Rule.
Members present agreed to tb s re cemendation but vantad to here a frv days to think i t over* The Executive Secretary suggested th a t absent cabers also be given an opportunity t o express an'opinion oo the Issuance. (Copy enclosed fo r absentees.) Ualess n o tific a tio n of opposition is received by the decretory by Karch 5th, an FCPC l e t t e r w ill be sent to FTC, concurring v itb the rule-aaklng.
io . Hr. F arkaj. newly elected Cbalroan o f the Znforaatloo 9ubccdalttee, reported that the Subcommittee la entering a new phase v lth the addition
. of tvo rather inportaat neshera. For the f ir s t tia e there Is represent t i c s a t the Departmental le v e l fre e I n te r io r sad Health, Education., sod . W elfare. The Subcommittee Is e u rre a tly working oo a r rr ls lo o of th e FCPC brochure, but th is la progressing siwly-because of various reorganisa tio n s taking place la the aeaber Deportsests.
P r. Shaw reported th a t the Safety 9ubecoslttee has received te n ta tiv e egreeaent froc the Depertasnt of Coceerce to Incorporate la i t s neat census study information oo p e stic id e containers. The Subeoaalttee has a lso conducted a research surrey on a l l fa c to rs Involved la safety la p e s tic id e enrketlng and d isposal. They expect to su b sit rec em endations to FCPC within 30-00 days* Current l y In progress is a surrey of th e regulations and levs th a t p e rta in to areas of concern la the Subccoalttse. I t la f e l t by am bers th a t gaps do e x is t, to e fu rth e r lte a of concern Is the fact th a t pesticide accldeat reporting does not ex ist as a coordinated later-D epartreatal effo rt.
P r. Urholt reported th a t vs bars alaost depleted our supply of the Study of Federally Financed Research oo F eats, P esticides and Pest Control sponsored by the Research Subeoaalttee end any need to have th is r e printed.
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For th f Monitoring Subcommittee, Dr. Ufrhalt poke of recent a n a ly tic a l
e a ^ a r a b lllty te s tin g carried on ty AfcJ, and reported th a t U.-i Jubccnolttee
. plana to eubait to FCIC c e rtain reccrcendetlcna as to exchange of son-
plea between lab o ra to rie s to t r y to obtain b e tte r r e s u lts . The Secretary
Is receiving requests f o r , and cem ents oo the Catalog of Federal Feotlelde
Monitoring A c tiv itie s In E ffect J u ly 19&7 The cem ents should provide
a basis fo r the decision as to whether o r not future catalogs
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11- The next n e ttin g o f the Federal C a d t t e e oo Test Control v l l l be held t 1:30 p .n .j oo Thursday, Kerch 27, 19&9, the place to be a r a a a c e l.
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