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1 In the 1980 NIOSH study, they actually 2 measured fiber concentration at a distance, different 3 distances away from the work bay, so that is a good 4 indication of how much a bystander would get. 5 Q And it is true, is it not, that right at the 6 very beginning of the 1980 NIOSH study, and on a 7 number of occasions throughout the study, the authors 8 say that no -- they say that very little brake service 9 activity occurred on the day of the survey; asbestos 10 exposures probably would be higher on days when the 11 workload was greater. 12 A Yes, it did say that. It doesn't say there 13 was none, it says little. 14 But at the same time, when you compare that 15 particular study to the other studies such as the 16 study in Germany, the study in Finland, the study in 17 Hong Kong, when the garage mechanics were actually 18 working on the brakes, they are pretty similar. 19 And what it says is, brake repair does not 20 generate that much dust. 21 Q Well, at least the NIOSH study says that