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C-8_ COMMUNICATIONS MEETING
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PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
Clothing and Gloves _ e reeds to be disposable to prevent secondary contamination.
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The purpose of this meeting is to bring everyone up to _ date on our findings regarding C-8, our immediate program, and
our long term plans.
Most of you know that C-8 is a fluorochemical surfactant that is used for producing fine powder, dispersion, granular and FEP. It has unique properties that allow it to wet Teflon's surface, shorten reaction cycle time, stabilize dispersions and provide sites for reactions. It has been used for Teflon manufacture for over 25 years. Other chemicals have been tested but none
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match C-8's properties. Four years ago it was introduced in
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FEP manufacture where it was a manufacturing improvement.
Let's look over the highlights of the Technical history of C-8. In 1965 tests showed that C-8 was slightly toxic when swallowed. This was not surprising. There is a dose level where almost every chemical becomes poisonous, even water. (Chart 1). This chart shows the oral toxicity of C-8 relative to some common chemicals. These tests vere done on animals, and represent what dose would kill 508 of the animals tested. I've scaled up the dose from test data to animal weights comparable to an operator's weight. You can see that C-8 is not as toxic as acetone. It has
a lower toxicity like table salt.
C-8, like table salt, can also be absorbed through the skin where it is about as toxic as it is orally. But, based on } this low toxicity, no change in our safety program was necessary. !
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In 1969 it was found that C-8 was more toxic by inhalation,
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that will kill test animals in a 4 hour period. This
approximate lethal concentration for rats exceeds anything we have
measured in the plant. The highest level ever measured in the
plant is about 1/4 of
that level -- and that a 1.lmpm leak
at the feed end of No. 3 dryer which has been repaired. The other
C-8 concentrations are generally about 1,000 to 10,000 times lower
than this so people working fn the sxes ses 20 immediate stfect. (U0
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However, since 3M informed us in 1978 of organic fluorine
being detected in the blood of their employees who worked with C-8, we
have been reviewing and expanding our C-8 program. We have
concluded that personnel routinely exposed to C-8 will absorb it
in their body. Tests at Washington Works show that blood fluorine
levels which indicate C-8 levels generally correlate with
potential job exposure.
Repeated exposures can result in accumulation of C-8 in the blood. One of the things that we are studying with the blood samples is the rate that C-8 is eliminated from the body.
Some of theold timers remember when C-8 was treated with less respect and they wonder "Why is it suddenly harmful now?"
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Throughout the chemical industries over the last 50 years this story has been repeated with the same disbelief but
* often with more drastic consequences.
For example, carbon tetrachloride was used to clean auto parts and as a fire extinguisher for years, and now it is Xnown to cause damage in some people and is used with care. The same story has been repeated several times for things like chloroform (which was used in cough suryp), methyl alcohol and other chemicals.
The difference between the ending of the C-8 story and the others is that Du Pont is reacting while C-8 levels in the blood are low and before any damage is done in the body.
The medical data show that no one has been injured by C-8 (Chart 4). The Medical Division after a thorough study has concluded that ". . .there is no conclusive evidence of an occupationally related health problem among workers exposed to C-8." All that was noted was a small increase in two liver enzyme levels. After 25 years of handling C-8 we see no damage among the workers. However, the potential is there -- C-8 has
accumulated in the blood.
Because of this accumulation we have decided to undertake programs to minimize accumulation of C-8 in the blood of new workers.
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The AEL Committee of Haskell Laboratories has set a provisional Allovable Exposure Limit or "ABL at 0.55 mpb of C-8 in air. This very low proposal is based on a safety factor of B00 below the level where reversible liver effects were observed. An AEL is the same thing as a TLV or EGL -- it is a safe concentration in the air of a working environment.
In order to meet the expected low AEL, equipment changes are necessary to protect from solid, liquid and airborn C-8.
The next transparencies show the changes that have been
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made recently to protect against C-8 exposure. To date we have:
o Modified the Fine Powder/Dispersion ingredients addition hood to reduce C-8 emissions and bring the mixing operations into the hood. C-8 tools will also be stored in the hood where possible. '
Improved the C-8 addition hood exhaust stack. The hood exhaust stackwas close to an H & V inlet on the roof.
Removed operations that don't have to be done in the C-8 hood --- like citric acid weighing. This has redwed exposure of concentration to the operators.
The dryers have been improved also:
o Air supply inlets have been raised to remove
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o Seals of No. 3 dryer doors and seams have been
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e Inspection windows have been added to reduce need to open dryer doors.
We have also put guards inside the dryer that will permit using the exhaust fans to remove C-8 when dryers are being cleaned. This has reduced some C-8 concentrations, but more work is to be done; for example, we plan to cover injection pump tanks, seal openings in floor and vent oscillating feeder compartments, sealing
No. 3 dryer fans.
The next chart shows the three
different protection
levels required for three exposure classes: Low dry exposure,
high dry exposure and wet exposure. A disposable gamentsof the
appropriate design, gloves and air protection are recommended for
each of these exposure classes. Sample gaments have been selected
and an EOD will be run to evaluate this clothing. Tyveke vas
selected over cloth or paper gaments because it is light fairly
resistant to tearing, a good filter and disposable. Disposability
is required to prevent secondary contamination when laundering.
During this EOD, sample gaments will be tried and evaluated by
operators and mechanics.
c-8 will permeate all glove materials over a period of
time. New flock lined latex gloves will be used in jobs where
C-8 exposure is likely. Even these gloves will be permeated
by C-8 over a period of time, so these gloves will be disposed of
after each shift.
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Breathing protection is very important to reducing C-8 exposures. Equipment improvements will reduce airborn C-8 in most areas but there will still be areas where exposure, is possible. A COMFO II air respirator with a special GMAH cartridge is required as a minimum. Breathing air is better and will be available soon. The yellow 3M masks are not acceptable.
I've had some questions on future C-8air samples and blood samples. Ve now have our baseline data and have mapped
out the problem areas. The procedures are modified and
equipment improved so C-8 exposures will be reduced.
Blood sampling will probably be done on an annual basis in the future to define the real improvements
in C-8 control.
Let me summarize the items covered:
C-8 is toxic, but it can be used and contrplled below
the proposed toxic limit.
In the past, people working with C-8 have accumulated organic fluorine in the blood and levels
generally correlate with job exposure potential. Although this has caused no health effects, continued
exposure should beminimized with controls.
our objective is to reduce exposures to below the provisional AFL, and to reduce organic fluorine levels 3
in blood of exposed workers and to limit accumulation
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This will require equipment changes that are partially complet It will also require use of disposable protective clothing
and use of breathing air or respirators for certain jobs. One other ingredient is needed -- Total Division
cooperation in controlling this material.
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CHART 1
ORAL TOXICITY
(Doses LethaL To Asout 50% oF ANIMALS)
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INHALATION TOXICITY
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MepicaL Division 1/25/80 STATEMENT BASED ON LIVER ENZYME
STUDY ==", , .'. THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF AN
OCCUPATIONALLY RELATED HEALTH PROBLEM AMONG WORKERS EXPOSED
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3M MeprcaL DIRECTOR IN 3/14/80 MEETING WITH Du PONT STATED
THAT THEY HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED ANY SIGNIFICANT INDUSTRIAL
DISEASE RELATED To C-8 EXPOSURE.
No EVIDENCE OF HEALTH PROBLEMS IN MORE THAN 25 YEARS USE OF C-8. HANDLING PRACTICES IN EARLIER YEARS HAD GREATER
EXPOSURE POTENTIAL THAN RECENT OPERATIONS.
CONCLUSION
No CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF HEALTH PROBLEMS RELATED To C-8
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DRY HIGH EXPOSURE
Disposable TYVEX coveralls with hood or cap
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NO HEALTH EFFECTS AT PRESENT LOW LEVELS
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Attached is a copy of the "Status and Program" that was reviewed at our Teflon Divisions' C-8 meeting on Sept. 25, 1980.
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