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December 5 1974
M r. F . F . Roasch
CTFA SobcemmlUe M illin g on Asbestos in Tale
The mealing was held at B rio tn H tfy ers , Hillside on December 4, 1974.
Those In attendance Included:
D r. Joseph Simka M r. H arold Stanley M r. George Sandtend M r. George Cohort M r. A llan Harvey D r. Robert Rolls D r. George Lee O r. John Travors
(C o lg a te ) (P fizer) fjJrlstQ -tyers, Chairm an)
(B ristol-M yers)
(V anderbilt)
(JJ)
(J6J) (Avon)
JSJ pushed for th e commlite to submit the attached methods for consideration by the FD A . T h is was opposed b y most members (Avon and V an d erb ilt remained n e u tra l) on the grounds that tha w ork hod been performed by only Avon and JSJ. R eportedly, Mennen and Chesebrough-Ponds havo DTA equipm ent but they have not started to examine tha samples. Colgate am i P fize r have D TA equipm ent ordered but as yat do not
even know th e dote o f d e liv e ry .
t told tha group o f our DTA w o rk at Debell end Richardson w here w * had 3 samples exam ined. F o r c u r inform ation these were Identified as: A #466 Tele- B . $4665 T a le; C . fS09 T a lc . Debet I and Richardson had reported sample nA & ( 60) to contain chrysolite because H had a paak at 8SO degrees C . D r. Hollo felt that thte was not proof o f the presence of chrysolite because there must be two peaks (another
at 630 degrees C ) .
# e have agreed to subm it another three blind samples to Pebelt S Richardson for additional DTA w o rk. We w ill receive these from Rolls (JfiJ),
It was reported b y JSJ and also b y Avon that the FDA has never Identified cbrysatlle In any l i . S . cosmetic ta lc .
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Mr, F . F. Reesch
CTFA Subcommittee Meeting on Asber
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Fftzer feels that DTA is being pu -bed by JfiJ because the FDA has similar equipment but they do not have an electron microscope, i foal that Pfizer is correct in this Attitude but two different types of personnel a re involved, tt.iafces much greater skill to operate tha
electron microscope than it does to operate the OTA.
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Reporte+y, the FDA hss commissioned the Franklin Institute* Philadelphia
start a research study of asbestos und talc.
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f h a nftxt meeting to be held at Bristoi-Myors* has been tentatively set for Tuesday February 4* 1975. Irs the meantime, Mr. Sondiand will try to set up ah informations! typo meeting with Borman Estrin
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