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FILE NAME Manville JMA
DATE 1965-1966 DOC JMA231
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Letter Between M and Various Companies with Asbestos Unit Research Report
CANADIAN JohnsJohns Manville CO LIMITED
ASBESTOS FIBRE DIVISION
TEL 879-5431
JM
P Y
May 17 1965
Dr. J. C. McDonald
ProfesosferEpidemiology and Health
1033 Pine Avenue West
Ep
Montreal 2 P.Q.
me
Dear Dr. McDonalds
I can now advise that all companies
have approved
unanimously to give you access to
information and any assistance you require to carry
out your mIV
Mr. Boadway had sent his company's
company's
approval but must have been lost somewhere in
mail He called today to affirm their approval
and request that this study be expedited all possible
Sincerely
CANADIAN MANVILLE CO LIMITED
Got
Kenneth W. Smith M.D. New York
Paul Cartier M.D. - Thetford Mines
M. J. Measel - President Q.A.M.A Q.A.M.A Ivan Sabourin Q.C. - J. A. Vidal M.D.
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TEL 879-5431
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JohnsJohns Manville
ASBESTOS FIBRE DIVISION
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CO LIMITED -
P. O. BOX 1500
ASBESTOS QUEBEC
May 11 1965
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Dr. J. C. McDonald
Professor and Chairm
Dept. of Epidemiology and Health Health
West Megill University
1033 Fine Avenue
Montreal 2. P.G.
Dear Dr. McDonalds
itsdie sem
the following companies permitting information you have requested
you access
giving you whate
aver avastance they own to permit you to carry out
the followings
I enclose copies of letters from
Asbestos Corporation Limited Limited
Nicolet Industries Inc.
Bell Asbestos Mines Ltdes
Lake Asbestos of Quebes Ltd.
The Flinthate Company
National Asbestos Mines Limited
Sabourin
& Sabourin Attorneys for the
Association
helpful You also have permission from my
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company
Including use
of
such
information which may
helpful
to
from Phunro Mine at Matheson Ontario
and Advocate
Mines Limited at Baie Vorte Newfoundland
I hope the one company not yet heard
from will give their approval soon
001
York Kenneth W. Smith - New
Mines
Paul Cartier M.D. - Thetford Mines
1. J. Messel - President Q.A.N.A.
Ivan Sabourin Q.C. - Dr. J. A. Vidal
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FLINTKOTE
THE
FLINTKOTE COMPANY
EAST RUTHERFORD NEW JERSEY
April 20 1965
Mr. Karl V. Lindell
Chairman of the Board
Canadian Asbestos
Manville Fibre Division
Company
P.O. Box 1500
Asbestos Quebec
Limited
Dear Karl
We have for Dr.
your letter of J. C. McDonald
April 5 1965
to have access
requesting clearance
to the health records
of past and present
Dr. Paul Cartier at
employees which are
the Thetford Clinic
on file with This clearance
is given with the stipulation that in any reports or dis-
closures that no specific reference be made to Flintkote
nor should any specific disclosure be made of any condition
of any Flintkote employee If these stipulations are acceptable to Dr. McDonald it will be in order for him to make arrangements through Mr. Hodgson at Thetford Mines
With kind regards
Sincerely
THE FLINTKOTE COMPANY
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J. Main
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JAM
CC Mr. H. P. Heubner Mr. E. J. Weber Jr. Mr. R. J. Carlson Mr. H. E Beard
Mr. H. S. Jobbins Mr. F. P. Hodgson Ivan Sabourin Q.C.
J. D. Moran
~ New York ~ New York
- Rutherford - Rutherford - Rutherford
- Thetford Mines
- St. Johns Quebec
- New York
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Sabourin & Sabourin
Ivan A. SABOURIN B.C.L.C.R. Roland P. Sabourin A. L.PH C.L.
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Telephone Fl 7-233
St.Johns Que April 8th 1965
Mr. Karl Chairman Canadian
V. Lindell of the Board Manville
Asbestos Que
Co.
Ltd.
Re Survey of Dr. McDonald I.P.M.
Dear Karl
I acknowledge receipt of your letter dated April 5th and recommend agreeing to the desires expressed by Dr. McDonald as they correspond to the understanding that I tacitly had on behalf of the Association with him at New York last Fall and since
this we confirmed together as a Committee of the
Association recently when we met Dr. McDonald for the
formation of the Institute in connection with pathology
etc. in the Asbestos Mining industry
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Ivan Sabourin Q.C.
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Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Ar Dr.
A.L. Penhale Geo W. Smith J.O. Eby E.A. Boadway J.A. Main J. Messel R.S. Coleman P.A. Meyer T.R. Grainger Paul Cartier
Asbestos Corporation Ltd.
Bell Asbestos Mines Ltd. Cdn Manville Co. Ltd.
Canadian Mines Ltd.
Flintkote Mines Ltd.
Lake Asbestos of Quebec Ltd. National Asbestos Mines Ltd.
Nicolet Industries Inc. Cdn Manville Co. Ltd. Thetford Industrial Clinic
NATIONAL
ASBESTOS MINES
NO
PERSONAL
LIABILITY
LIMITED
THETFORD
MINES QUEBEC
P.O. BOX 459
CANADA
R. S. COLEMAN
PRESIDENT & GENERAL MANAGER
April 20 1965
Mr. Karl Lindell Chairman of the Board Canadian Johns Manville Company Limited
P.O. Box 1500 Asbestos Quebec
Dear Sir
With reference to your letter of April 5 1965 I wish to advise that this company is prepared to give Dr. MacDonald access to the records of past and present employees
RSC
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Dr. Paul Cartier Thetford Clinic
Yours Truly
NATIONAL ASBESTOS MINES LTD
Kabent J. Clean
Robert S. Coleman Manager
MICHAEL J. MESSEL PRESIDENT
LAKE ASBESTOS OF QUEBEC LIMITED
SUBSIDIARY OF AMERICAN SMELTING AND REFINING COMPANY
BLACK LAKE QUEBEC
April 28th 1965
Mr. K.V. Lindell Chairman of the
Canadian Manville Co. Ltd. Asbestos P.Q.
Board
RE Request of Dr. MacDonald
Dear Karl
and
any and
This will acknowledge yours of April 5th we are willing to operate and give Dr. MacDonald
data that may be of value to him in his studies
I see no problem in him talking to the Union
while here
when he
Please have him makes his visit
contact
Mr.
Leopold
Poulin
Yours truly
MJM
Michael J. Messel
BELL ASBESTOS MINES
O. BOX 99
THETFORD MINES QUEBEC
LTD
CANADA
April 7-65
Mr. Karl V. Lindell
Chairman
.
Can Manville Co.
O. Box 1500
Asbestos Que
Dear Mr. Lindell
In reply to your letter of April 5th this Company is agreeable
to the information in question being given to Dr. MacDonald
I am not certain as to the degree the Unions should be informed regarding this work
You are of course aware of the work being done in England by
the Asbestosis Research Council Mr. J. Waddell is the mem-
ber representing Turner & Newall on the Council and Mr. Bateman has advised me that they should be happy to give what help
they can way of advice and information their side
Smith Yours sincerely_
Bow
GWS
4 MINE LOCATIONI
NORBESTOS Via WARWICK
QUEBEC CANADA
NICOLET NICOLET NICOLET |
Cable Address
NICOBEST FLORHAMPARK
.
ASBESTOS FIBRE DIVISION
NICOLET AVENUE
FLORHAM PARK NEW JERSEY
April 14 1965
Telephones
FLORHAM PARK
377.7100
NEW YORK CITY ENTERPRISF 6128
Mr. Karl V. Lindell Chairman of the Board Canadian Manville Co. Asbestos Fibre Division P. O. Box 1500 Asbestos Quebec Canada
Limited
Dear Karl
This is in reply to your letterof April 5th with
enclosures
Our company Nicolet Asbestos Mines Md approves giving Mr. McDonald the data he may request and we have instructed our mine management to cooperate with him in every way possible
Yours truly
Rest
Rest
PAM
Philip Philip A. Meyer
Vice President
ASBESTOS CORPORATION CORPORATION LIMITED
PAESIDENT'S OFFICE
Thetford Mines Que
April 12 1965
Karl V. Lindell Esq Chairman of the Board Canadian Manville
P.O. Box 1500 Asbestos Que
Co.
Ltd.
Dear Karl
In response to your letter of April 5th we are quite prepared to give Dr. McDonald
whatever assistance we can in his survey of the
health of workers in the asbestos mining industry
I have written to Dr. Cartier along these lines and I enclose a copy of my letter for your information
With kind regards
ALP
Encl
Yours
sincerely
f
Le
April 12 1965
Dr. Paul
Thetford Thetford
Cartier Industrial Clinic Mines Que
Inc.
Dear Dr. Cartier
As you know Dr. .. Helona Pro-
fessor and Chairman of the Department of Epidemi-
ology ing a
and Health at survey of the
McGill health
University is conductof workers in the asbes-
tos mining industry
He expects to spend a certain amount of time in Thetford and in Asbestos studying the
data available and I would appreciate it if you would arrange to give him full operation at
the Thetford Industrial Clinic
with kind regards
ALP |
c.c. K.V.
Lindell
Yours singurely A.L. Penhale
DUPLICATE
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Epidemiology Department of Dope
and Health McGill University
Ae Progress Progress Report I
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This report summarizes the work of the unit from its foundation on October 1st
1966 until November 30th 1966.
The work 1. Staff and equipment equipment equipment
The following persons
statisticjioainnedfrom Wales C.E. Rossiter M.A.
may be considered under three main headings
the scientific staff of the unit on October 1st
the M.R.C. Pneumoconiosis Research Unit S.
Sherbrooke | Gis^leFournier M.D. M.Sc.
physiologist M.R.C. Fellow from
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pulpulmomnaryonary University
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epidemiologist - a M.J. Ball M.B. D.P.H.
pulmonary physiologist T.E. WoodM.D. M.Sc.
time from staff of department
part from the Royal Victoria
Hospital
oa
In addition a records clerk is now employed in Montreal and 4 clerks are
On at work in Asbestos or
ThetfoProdllution hygienist from the M.R.C.M.R.C. Air
January 1st 1967 Mr G.W. Gibbs an industrial
Research Unit London will join the unit part-
time and it
that date
is hoped
The unit
that will
respiratory two
function technicians will also
then be nearly at strength and thereafter
start
staff
work on
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changes
will be made mainly to meet the continually altering nature of the unit's unit's work
Orders for the apparatus needed for pulmonary function tests were placed as
most of it has now been received and it is soon as the grant was approved in August
hoped that it will be complete and calibrated in time to begin field work on April 1st
.
2. Survey of mine workers
arrangements a Preliminary
representatives Asbestos and Thetford Mines with
A series of meetings were held during October in
of the employers and the unions Few
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encountered serious difficulties were
and assurance of help and good will was obtained
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less delay feared terminated from both parties after much
than I had
. These meetings
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in a press conference and some
pSuubclciecsisty Qiumepboerctant been no serious repercussions-
in the in these
papers from which there have
preliminary stages was due
in great measure to the efforts and ability of Dr Gis^leFournier b Personal records A start has been made on the considerable
task
of
collecting history personaldetails and
.
for all past and present employees Good
being records about made and date for progress is to
maintained difficult . but
speed not
follow this be have been designed and
7,204 of
25,000 have been collected
as the remainder are more
Record cards
eventually all information - work and exposure
ordaerneddfaunndction up radiological findings
test results - will be entered By March it is
hoped that a sufficiently
register will be available to allow sampling of the
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by age and years of
for function tests
population possible It will not be
to make much progress with the follow of past
Ball until the full register has been completed
employees
Dr M.J.
of this aspect of the work expects to have collected relevant
who is in charge information by then from
a c
the Braun and Truan records in Pittsburgh b
company pension records and d union records
life and accident insurance companies
After consolidation of all this data
the real task can begin
c Chest rays
With the help of Dr Cartier and Dr Grainger the most recent
according employee's film is being taken from each
employe's dossier and put in one of two classes
radiologist abnormality to whether or not any
had been noted A competent independent
films will then be asked to review the normal
and put back in the abnormal series
classification on which he has any doubts
any
ever detailed radiological
The resultant abnormal series will be ready for what-
it is decided use We would like to use
a scheme which
June workers but we
Function Fournier consultation Margaret d
will
must
be both
acceptable have this by Wood| with Wod
tests and in tedl..
internationally and appropriate for asbestos
1967 or our work will be held up
Dr
Dr
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Wood .
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the Becklake are giving thought to
representative October 1967 stratified
choice of tests to be used Between April and
sample of current employees will be examined
using tests which for practical reasons occupy more than about one hour per man
out still The tests will have to be carried
sure
this can be done
whether withsoumumter expensive to obtain During the
close to the working place and we are
not
a mobile laboratory which would be difficult and
of 1968 further and perhaps more elaborate tests
men for , may be undertaken choosing
examination in the light of the considerably greater
knowledge we expect to have by then of exposure radiological changes etc.
significance mills determined year
e Dust exposure
by year in terms of
The
dust
conditions conditions Mr joins January This problem will be assigned to
each of
job in the various mines and
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and physical effort has to be
G.W. Gibbs who
the unit in
He will
but may find it necessary to undertake certain _ be asked to use all available records
_ environmental measurements himself |
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National 3. Mesothelioma survey
the
The way has now been cleared with the two main parties interested -
National Steering Committee on Asbestos and Health - for the uni
Cancer Institute and the
to undertake Some initial
of known of pleural mesothelioma
the epidemiological study
the efforts were made by
National Steering Committee over a year
in Canada
ago to have
little done cases notified but unfortunately
more has been
and the series of 20 or so
complete cases reported is clearly far from
As a result
able to take the initiative in this matter and
we are now
of further discussion in Ottawa
plan to circularize all Canadia
list It may be
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complete effort possible pathologists fairly soon in an
to get a more
and the provinci
held by the
Bureau of Statistics
Dominion to supplement this using data
eventually Detailed
will
be made to determine the occupa-
, tumour registrars
inquiries of a control series
of cases of mesothelioma
history and tional social and personal
appropriately chosen
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during months Conclusion
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progress
The unit has made reasonably good progress
its firsttwo
and foreseen
difficulties do not appearunsurmountable; asie q.eq.e 5/12/66