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FILE NAME: US Gypsum (USG) DATE: July 29, 1986 DOC#: USG057 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: 1986 Legal - Deposition of Suzanne Kay Torrey
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STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINE, COUNTY OF KERSHAW
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K E R S H A W COUNTY BOARD OF EDUC?TION, )
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Plaintiff,
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vs.
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W.R. G R ACE AND CO., et al . ,
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Defendants.
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The d e p o s i t i o n of S U Z ANNE KAY TORREY,
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t a k e n in the a b o v e - e n t i t l e d c a u s e , b e f o r e S U S A N M.
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MARTINO, a Notary Public vithin and for the County
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of Cook, State of Illinois, and a Certi f i e d
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S h o r t h a n d R e p o r t e r of said s t a t e at 101 S o u t h W a c k e r
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Drive, C hicago, I l l inois, on the 29th day of July,
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A .D . , 1986, at 9:30 a.m.
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MR. D A N I E L A. S P E I G H T S ,
(304 Lee A v e n u e ,
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Hampton, South Carolina 29924),
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HUMPHREY, FARRINGTON, PRINS & McCLAIN,
(123 West Kansas,
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I n d e p e n d e n c e , M issouri 64050), by:
MR. K E N N E T H B. M c C L A I N ,
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8 MORGAN, LEWIS & BOCKIUS,
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(2000 One Logan Square,
P h i l a d e l p h i a , P e n n s y l v a n i a 19103), by:
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MR. E. B A R C L A Y CA L E , JR.,
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TURNER, FADGET, GRAHAM & LANEY ,
(1801 Main Street,
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Columbia, South C a r o l i n a 29202), by:
MR. E D W I N P. M A R T I N ,
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Gypsum Company.
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R E P O R T E D BY: S U S A N M. M A R T I N O , C . S . R .
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INDEX
2 WITNESS
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By Nr. Speights
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EXHIBITS
6 plaintiff's Deposition Exhibit
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No . 1
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NO . 2
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NO . 3
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NO . 4
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NO . 5
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NO . 6
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No . 7
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No . 8
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No . 9
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NO . 10
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No . 1 1
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No. 12
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NO . 13
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NO. 14
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EXAMINATION
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(WHEREUPON, the witness was duly
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MR. S P E I G H T S : Thi s d e p o s i t i o n is taken
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pursuant to notice and orders from the bench by the
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H o n o r a b l e J o h n H a m i l t o n S n i t h on J u l y 2, 1 9 8 6 and
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J u l y 22, 1986 w h i c h r u l i n g s are g o i n g to be
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m e m o r i a l i z e d in a w r i t t e n order p r o b a b l y to be filed
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t h i s w e e k . T h e d e p o s i t i o n w i l l be c o n d u c t e d in
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acc o r d a n c e with the a p p l i c a b l e rules of civil
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procedure .
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SUZANNE KAY TORREx ,
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called as a w i t n e s s herein, having been first duly
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sworn, was e x a m i n e d and t e s t i f i e d as follows:
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EXAMINATION
1 5 BY M P . SPEIGHTS:
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Q. Would you stare your full name, please?
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A.
Suzanne Kay, K-a-y, Terrey.
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Q . What is ycur p resent address, Ms. To rre y ?
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A . 9 1 1 Cran , C-r-a-n, Evanston, Illinois.
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Q. What i s your b u s i n e s s address?
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A . 10 1 Scut h Wacker Drive, Chicago, Illinois
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I believe that's the corporate
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h e a d q u a r t e r s of USG C o r p o r a t i o n and U.S.
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Company, is than correct?
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It's the c o r p o r a t e h e a d q u a r t e r s of USG
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Corporation. I'm not sure it's accurate any more to
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say it's the h e a d q u a r t e r s of U n i t e d S t a t e s G y p s u m
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Company.
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M y u n d e r s t a n d i n g , Ms. T o r r e y , is t h a t y o u
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are a l a w y e r , is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
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A . Yes, sir.
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Q.
And from 1977 u n t i l the end of 1984, you
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were a lawyer at the U.S. G y p s u m Company?
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A . Correct.
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Q.
From 1985 until present, you have been a
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lawyer with USG Corporation?
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A . That's correct.
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Q.
U S G C o r p o r a t i o n is the p a r e n t c o m p a n y of
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U.S, Gypsum Company?
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A . Yes.
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D u r i n g this p e r i o d of time, from 1977
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until the present, you have not been engaged xn
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p r i v a t e p r a c t i c e , is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
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A. T h a t ' s c o r r e c t .
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Q. Y o u are or h a v e b e e n a s a l a r i e d e m p l o y e e
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of the c o m p a n y or the two companies.'
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A . Yes.
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1977 until the end of 1984 when you were a lawyer
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with U.S. Gypsum Company.
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W hat was your title or what were your
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t i t l e s d u r i n g that p e r i o d of time?
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A . During that p e r i o d of time, I held the
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t i t l e of a t t o r n e y , sen i o r l i t i g a t i o n a t t o r n e y and
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senior atto rney-1it i g a t i o n .
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Who did you r e p o r t to in t h o s e p o s i t i o n s ?
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Thad Snell, g e n e r a l c o u n s e l . He held
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various titles also during that period.
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Did Mr. Snell later become vice p r e s i d e n t
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of the c o m p a n y ?
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I believe he was vice presi d e n t t h r o u g h o u t
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that entire time.
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q . Was Mr. Snell the senior attorney employed
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by U.S. G y p s u m C o m p a n y t h r o u g h o u t th a t p e r i o d of
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time?
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A . Yes.
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Q . D u r i n g t h a t p e r i o d of time, again, ' l l
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u n t i l the end of 1984, did you ha v e any i n v o l v e m e n t
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A . Yes.
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Q. Would you d e s c r i b e to me g e n e r a l l y what
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your involvement w a s .
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A . W h e n I s t a r t e d wi t h the c o m p a n y in 1977 ,
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t h e r e were a b o u t 12 r e l a t e d c a s e s in K n o x v i l l e
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called the Knoxville cases.
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I was b r o u g h t into the c o m p a n y to work
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with litigation liled against or on behalf of the
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c o m p a n y , and t h e s e 12 c a s e s w e r e a s s i g n e d to me at
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that time.
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That number grew progressively over the
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years and I ended up with i n v o l v e m e n t generally,
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first e x c l u s i v e l y in the p e r s o n a l i n j u r y area, l a t e r
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e x c l u s i v e l y or p r i m a r i l y in the p r o p e r t y d a m a g e
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asbestos litigation.
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Q.
T h e 12 c a s e s f i l e d in K n o x v i l l e w e r e
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personal injury cases?
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Yes.
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Q.
T h o s e w o u l d be c a s e s in w h i c h s o m e b o d y
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c l a i m e d to h a v e an a s b e s t o s d i s e a s e as a r e s u l t of
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exposure to some U.S. G y p s u m p r o d u c t or produc t s ?
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A . Yes.
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When did the change take place where your
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involvement, primary involvement went from
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oersonal injury l i t i g a t i o n to asbestos p r o p e r t y
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damage cases?
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The shift was in the fall of 1521. From
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was g e n e r a l l y involved with both. But I was out cn
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m a t e r n i t y leave d u r i n g the s u m m e r of 1981, and upon
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my return a numb e r of e v e n t s c o a l e s c e d and cau s e d me
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to s p e n d the b u l k of my t i m e in the p r o p e r t y d a m a g e
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area.
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By p r o p e r t y d a m a g e cases, are we r e f e r r i n g
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to c a s e s f i l e d by b u i l d i n g o w n e r s such as s c h ool
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d i s t r i c t s a g a i n s t U . S . G y p s u m C o m p a n y s e e k i n g cos .s
1O a s s o c i a t e d w i t h r e m o v a l of a s b e s t o s - c o n t a i n i n g 11 p r o d ucts?
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That's an accurate c h a r a c t e r i z a t i o n ,
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a l t h o u g h at the time, all of the cases were b r o u g h t
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cn beha l f of school d i s t r i c t s .
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Q.
Initially they were brought by school
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districts arm later some nonschool districts brought
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similar cases?
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Thar's my understanding. That would have
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occurred, I believe, after I no longer had
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r e s p o n s i b i l i t y for t 're c a s e s .
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Q . And when did that occur?
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A . In Aug us t of 1984.
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Q . N o w , in c o n n e c t i o n wit: your duties
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property damage, did you report to Mr. Snell?
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A . Yes.
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He was your boss?
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A . Yes.
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Q. Would it be fair to say that you met
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I met with him as f r e q u e n t l y as I felt the
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Q. Are you familiar with a pub l i c a t i o n known
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A.Yes,lam.
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Can you describe generally what the
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It is a p u b l i c a t i o n that comes out every
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p r o p e r t y damage or the a s b estos insurance - re x a e d _
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Q. Did you review the Asbestos L i t i g a t i o n
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Yes.
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Did you h a v e an o c c a s i o n in the late 1 9 7 0 s
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to review the A s b estos L i t i g a t i o n Reporter which
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reported on what has been g e n e r a l l y referred :o as
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the Sumner Simpson papers?
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it was b r o u g h t to my a t t e n t i o n . We were
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not a s u b scribe r at that time.
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And did you at the time it was b r o u g h t to
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y o u r a t t e n t i o n r e v i e w the p u b l i c a t i o n whe r e it
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reported on the Sumner Simpson papers being located?
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If y o u ' r e a s k i n g me did I read the p i e c e s
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of p a p e r that t a l k e d a b o u t that that w e r e in the
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Asbestos Litigation Reporter, yes, I did.
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Now, my u n d e r s t a n d i n g is that S u m n e r
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S i m p s o n w a s t h e p r e s i d e n t o f R a y b e s t o s Mar. n at tan.
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back in the 1930s. Is t h a t also your u n d e r s t a n d i n g
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a s we 11?
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Yes?
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Q . And the Sumner papers included both
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d o c u m e n t s a l l e g e d l y created by him and documents
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allegedly created by one V a n d i v e r B rown of Johns ~
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M a n v i 11 e , is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
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A . Yes.
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m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t d a t e d N o v e m b e r 2C, 1936
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p r i n t e d in the A s b e s t o s L i t i g a t i o n F e por ter?
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A . Yes.
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I show you a copy of this document and ask
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I'm sorry, I started re ading. What was _
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MR. SPEIGHTS: Read it back, please.
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(WHEREUPON, the record was read
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by the reporter as requested.)
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MR. CALE: Is the q u e s t i o n whether the text -is
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MR. SPEIGHTS: My u n d e r s t a n d i n g is nothing
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but is this the text?
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A . This is the text, and I bel ie v e the
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notations that are on these pieces of pap e r would -
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And which notations are you referring to?
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T h e r e is a n u m b e r in the u p p e r r i g h t h a n d
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corner 2-14, in the lower r i g h t h a n d corner, there
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are various initials and numbers and the pages seem
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to be i d e n t i f i e d as A, B and C. E a c h of the p a g e s
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bears what appears to be a Bates number stamp.
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Except for that, the text of this would.be
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i d e n t i c a l to what y o u re a d in the A s b e s t o s
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It conforms to my recoll e c t i o n , yes.
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MR. SPEIGHTS: I would ask this document
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p r e v i o u s l y m a r k e d as P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 214 be
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m a r k e d as an e x h i b i t to th i s d e p o s i t i o n as
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P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 1.
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(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
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P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n Ex nib it N o . 1,
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for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9-86.)
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(WHEREUPON, d is cu s si o n was had
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off the record.)
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MR. CALE: Let the record reflect that the -
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E x h i b i t No. 1 is not a copy of the m e m o r a n d u m of -
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agreement as it appeared in the A s b e s t o s L i t i g a t i o n
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other place at some other time.
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But we a g r e e t h a t the t e x t of E x h i b i t 1
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c o n f o r m s to the text of the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t
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as it a p p e a r e d in t h e l i t i g a t i o n r e p o r t e r . Is t h a t
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correct?
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MR. SPEIGHTS: That's correct. And to avoid
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any confusion, I will later forward counsel a copy
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of the one th a t a c t u a l l y a p p e a r e d in the A s b e s t o s
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L i t i g a t i o n Reporter, and we can discuss perhaps a
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s u b s t i t u t i o n of that copy for this copy.
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MR. CALE: That would be p e r f e c t l y agreeable.
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BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
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Ms. Torrey, would you agree with me tuat
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the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t r e f l e c t s t h a t it was'
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e x e c u t e d on b e h a l f of U n i t e d S t a t e s G y p s u m C o m p a n y
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by a Mr. Shaver, s e c r e t a r y - t r e a s u r e r ?
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T h a t ' s w h a t a p p e a r s to be on t hat p i e c e of
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paper, yes.
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Would you agree with me that the a g r e e m e n t
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reflects that those people who signed the agreement
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a g r e e d to f u n d c e r t a i n a n i m a l e x p e r i m e n t s wir.i
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a s b e s t o s dust to be p e r f o r m e d by Dr. LeRoy G a r d n e r '
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at S a r a n a c La k e L a b o r a t o r y in N e w Y c rk ?
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o n l y i n s o f a r as it is not a l l - i n c l u s i v e . O b v i o u s l y ,
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the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t first of all says that
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it is p u r s u a n t to a m e e t i n g of b r ake lining
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m a n u f a c t u r e r s of w h i c h U.S. G y p s u m was never a bra k e
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lining manufacturer.
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It says t h a t it is to be a t h r e e - y e a r
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study and a lot of other things w hich o b v i o u s l y we
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think are material and important and I object t o a
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q u e s t i o n that only f o c u s e s on a few of the
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a t t r i b u t e s that p e r h a p s are o b v i o u s l y of i n t e r e s t to
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If we can, p e r h a p s let the d o c u m e n t speak
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for i t s e l f or in some o t h e r way try to get at what
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you would like to have the witness testify to. B "t
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I w o u l d not wa n t to ha v e an i n c o r r e c t or i n c o m p l e t e
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c h a r a c t e r i z a t i o n of the d o c u m e n t in a d e p o s i t i o n
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fo r m w h e r e you w o u l d s i m p l y ask her to a g r e e to it
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unless you then want me on cro s s i n g into the otner
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a s p e c t s of it. I w o u l d be w i l l i n g to w o r k t h a t any
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w a y yo u t h i n k is r e a s o n a b l e .
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MR. SPEIGHTS: I will be glad to rephrase the
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cross to try to ciar ify w h a t e v e r points you need ;o
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BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
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Ms. Torrey, would you agree with me that
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the m e mo ra nd um of agreement, among other things,
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provides that the sponsors will fund certain animal
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e x p e r i m e n t s with asbestos dust to be p e r f o r m e d by
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Dr. L e R o y G a r d n e r of S a r a n a c Lake, N e w York?
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A.
The d o c u m e n t on its face says "The
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9
undersigned hereby agree to underwrite certain
1 0
e x p e r i m e n t s w i t h a s b e s t o s d ust to be c o n d u c t e d by
1 1
Dr. L e R o y U. G a r d n e r at t h e S a r a n a c L a b o r a t o r i e s ,
1 2
Saranac Lake, New York."
1 3
I d o n't see a reference to animal
1 4
expe riments.
1 5
Q.
W e r e t h e r e o t h e r r e f e r e n c e s in the
'
16 Asbestos L i tigation Reporter which reflected that
1 7
t n e s e w e r e in f a c t a n i m a l s t u d i e s to be p e r f o r m e d by
1 8
Dr. Gardner?
1 9
A.
At any time or at the same tim e ? In the
20
Litigation Reporter?
.
2 1
Q.
D u r i n g the p e r i o d in the late 1970s, dia
22
the Asbestos Litigation Reporter actually publisn
2 3
three progress reports c o n d u c t e d pursuant to this '
24
a g r e e m e n t w h i c h r e f l e c t e d t h a t t h e y were in fact r
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animal experiments? ~
A.
There was
published
in A s b e s t o s
' r Litigation
Reporter to my recollection three progress reports
a l l of a n i m a l e x p e r i m e n t w o r k w i t h a s b e s t o s d o n e a t_
S a r anac Lake L a b o r a t o r i e s by Dr. Gardner. W h e t h e r t h o s e d o c u m e n t s r e f l e c t in the
r e p o r t e r t h a t it was the r e s u l t of t he m e m o r a n d u m of
a g r e e m e n t , I s i m p l y d o n ' t r e c a l l one way or the -
othe r . I d o n ' t r e call the s p e c i f i c r e c o r d i n g of the thr e e p r o g r e s s r e p orts and w h e t h e r or not they . r e f e r e n c e d b a c k to the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t .
Q.
I u n d e r s t a n d . F r o m your r e v i e w of the
various progress reports and the other c o r r e s p o n d e n c e p r o d u c e d in c o n n e c t i o n with the
S u m n e r S i m p s o n p a p e r s and from your re v i e w of
'
various U.S. Gypsum Company documents and/or
d o c u m e n t s of the law firm w h i c h r e p r e s e n t e d U.S.-
Gyps u m over the years, would you agree with me that
this agreement funded experiments with animal
e x p e r i m e n t s w i t h a s b e s t o s d u s t and a n i m a l s ? Do w.e
have any dispute about that, Ms. Tcrrey?
A.
I'm having trouble with the way you're
wording the question.
Q.
L e t me t r y it a g a i n .
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A . Thank you.
2
Q.
I'm a s k i n g you now, in 1986, w o u l d you
3
a g r e e wi t h me fr o m your r e v i e w of v a r i o u s d o c u m e n t s
4
s i n c e you first saw the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t ,
5
t h a t the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t did in fact fund
6
e x p e r i m e n t s with a s b e s t o s dust on a n i m a l s ?
7
MR. CALE: Let's go off the record for a moment.
8
(WHEREUPON, discussion was had
-
9
off the record between the witness
1 0
and Mr. Cale , out of the
.
1 1
hearing of other counsel and the
1 2
court reporter.)
1 3
MR. SPEIGHTS: Let me rephrase the question.
1 4
MR. CALE: Why don't you do that.
-
1 5 BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
'
1 6
q . Ms. Tcrrey, would you agree with me that
1 7
the e x p e r i m e n t s w i t h a s b e s t o s d u s t to be c o n d u c t e d
1 8
by Dr. G a r d n e r r e f e r r e d to in P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 1,
1 9
the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t , i n c l u d e d a n i m a l
20
experiments?
.
2 1
A . Yes, as I now know today.
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22
Q. As you now know today?
2 3
A . Yes.
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2 4
Q. Now, upon reviewing the memoranaum or r
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a g r e e m e n t , did you d i s c u s s it w i t h Mr S n e l l ?
2
A.
I b r o u g h t it to h i s a t t e n t i o n s o m e t i m e
3
a f t e r it was b r o u g h t to my a t t e n t i o n .
4
Q.
W a s Mr. S h a v e r in fact s e c r e t a r y - t r e a s u r e r
5
of U.S. G y p s u m C o m p a n y b a c k d u r i n g that p e r i o d of
6
t ime ?
7
A.
That's my understanding, yes.
8
Q.
And was Mr. Shaver later either Chairman
9
of t h e B o a r d or P r e s i d e n t of U .S^. G y p s u m C o m p a n y ?
1 0
A . Ye s .
-
1 1
Q.
And at that time, did M r . Shaver still
1 2
m a i n t a i n an office at the c o r p o r a t e h e a d q u a r t e r s at
1 3
101 S o u t h W a c k e r , a l b e i t he w a s r e t i r e d ?
1 4
A. I ' m s o r r y , at w h a t t i m e ?
1 5
Q. At t h e t i m e t h a t y o u f i r s t sa w the
'
16 m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t and the time you d i s c u s s e d
1 7
it w i t h Mr. S n e l l .
`
1 8
A
And the q u e s t i o n is did ne m a i n t a i n an
1 9
office
20
Q
Did Mr. S h a v e r s t i l l m a i n t a i n an office, at
2 1
101 S o u t h W a c k e r
that t ime ?
2 2
A.
I b e l i e v e he had the use of an o f f i c e he r e
23
W n e t h e r t h a t ' s m a i n t a i n i n g an of f i c e I'm net surer
2 4
Q.
W o u l d it be a fair s t a t e m
to sa" than
1 9
1
:he m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t t h a t you read in the
2
Asbestos L i t i g a t i o n R e p o r t e r and s h a r e d with Mr .
3
Snell was of int e r e s t to you and Mr. Snell?
4
MR. CALE: I think you can go ahead and answer
5
that one .
6
BY TH E W I T N E S S :
7
A . Yes.
8
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
-
9
Q.
Was any a t t e m p t made to i n t e r v i e w Mr.
1 0
S h a v e r to d e t e r m i n e w h e t h e r t h a t w a s ii s s i g n a t u r e
1 1
on the m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t ?
1 2
MR. CALE: I'm going to object to that question
1 3
so we have a record here to the e x t e n t that any
1 4
k n o w l e d g e t h a t the w i t n e s s has is b a s e d on h e a r s a y
1 5
or the a c t i v i t i e s of o t h e r p e o p l e .
'
1 6
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
1 7
Q . Did you subsequently have a conversation
1 8
w i t h M r . Snell, vice p r e s i d e n t of U.S. G y p s u m
1 9
C o m p a n y , c o n c e r n i n g an i n t e r v i e w he had witn Mr.
20
Shaver?
2 1
A . Yes.
2 2
Q . Did Mr. Snell advise you that Mr. Shaver
2 3
s t a t e d t h a t t h e s i g n a t u r e or. the m e m o r a n d u m of _
2
a g r e e m e n t a p p e a r e d to be his?
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A . Yes.
2
Q.
Did that interview occur during that
3
g e n eral period of time 1979 to 1980?
4
A.
Yes. I was also informed Mr. Shaver had
5
no r e c o l l e c t i o n of the c o n t e n t s of the m e m o r a n d u m of
6
a g r e e m e n t or of the s t u d y it p u r p o r t e d to fund
7
Q.
Did you also b e c o m e aware that Dr. G a r d n e r
8
pre p a r e d a m o n o g r a p h on his study in the year 1943?
9
A.
I'm sorry, what's the q u e s t i o n ?
1 O
Q.
Did you become aware that Dr. Gardner
11 published a monograph concerning his experiments,
1 2
animal experiments with asbestos dust m 1943?
1 3
A . No .
1 4
Q.
Have you ever s e e n a co p y of Dr. G a r d n e r ' s
1 5
1943 monog raph?
'
1 6
A.
No.
..
1 7
Q.
Has anyo n e a d v i s e d you that Dr. G a r d n e r
1 8
f o u n d in his a n i m a l e x p e r i m e n t s t h a t c e r t a i n a n i m a l s
1 9
s u b j e c t to the e x p e r i m e n t s wi th a s b e s t o s d u s t wer e
20
d y ing of lung c a n c e r ?
2 1
A . No .
22
Q . And th a t is t r u e ev en t o d a y ?
23
A . T h a t 's c o r r e c t .
-
2 4
Q.
Did you a s c e n d the L e x i n g t o n tri a l in ,
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2 1
1
April of 1984?
A
2
A . Yes.
3
Q.
Ms. Torrey, shortly after you read the
4
m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t in the A s b e s t o s L i t i g a t i o n
5
R e p o r t e r , my u n d e r s t a n d i n g is t h a t D o n n a W o o d r u f f , a
6
p a r a l e g a l wor k in g for you, l ocated some d o c u m e n t s at
7
1C 1 S o u t h W a c k e r , is that c o r r e c t ?
8
A.
Yes.
9
Q.
Do you recall when that was that she
1 0
located these documents?
1 1
A.
She was w o r k i n g on a p r o j e c t for me to
1 2
gather some old releases unrelated to asbestos just
1 3
for g e n e r a l p r o d u c t l i a b i l i t y q u e s t i o n s , and in
1 4
J a n u a r y of 1980 came upon some boxe s .
1 5
Q.
W h e r e were t h o s e d o c u m e n t s or tho s e boxes
1 6
found?
...
1 7
A.
S h e i n f o r m e d me c h a t she f o u n d t h e m i n a
1 8
room located a d j acent to the file room.
1 9
Q.
And, again, that would have been at the
20
c o r p o r a t e h e a d q u a r t e r s at 101 S o u t h W a c k e r ?
,
2 1
A.
That's correct.
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2 2
Q.
And at that time, was your office located
2 3
at 101 S o u t h '/'acker?
'
24
A.
Yes.
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22
1
Q.
A n d was Mr. S n e l l ' s o f f i c e l o c a t e d at 101
A
2
South Wacker?
3
A . Yes.
4
Q.
Did Ms. W o o d r u f f bring you any d o c u r e n t s
5
from the box or boxes she l o cated?
6
A . Yes.
7
Q.
Did you ever go down to the storage room
8
and r e v i e w the boxes t h e m s e l v e s in the sto r a g e room?
9
A.
No.
^
1 0
Q.
Now, I understand that Ms. Woodruff
1 1
bro u g h t you at least three d o c uments, would you
12 agree with that?
1 3
A.
Yes, in the m a n i l a f o l d e r s in w h i c h she
1 4
found them.
-
1 5
Q.
I s how you a copy of what p r e v i o u s l y has
1 6
b e e n m a r k e d P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 20 and on another,
1 7
c o p y P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 1694 an d ask if t h a t i s one
1 8
of the d o c u m e n t s w h i c h she b r o u g h t to you?
1 9
A.
It c o n f o r m s to my r e c o l l e c t i o n .
20
MR. S P E I G H T S : I w o u l d a s k t h a t be m a r k e d as.
2 1
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 2.
~
2 2
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
23
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No. 2 ,
2 4
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7-29-86..'
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1
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
-
t
2
Q.
Ms. T o r r e y , P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 2 is a
3
letter from Vandiver Brown to J.S. Offut, and across
4
the top it r e f l e c t s J o h n s - M a n v i l l e C o r p o r a t i o n w i t h
5
the New York address.
6
Is this the V a n d i v e r B r o w n or at lea s t the
7
same name V a n d i v e r Brown that we referred to e a r l i e r
8
as being g eneral a t t o r n e y for J o h n s - M a n v i l l e
-
9
Corporation?
v
_
1 0
MR. CALE: Before the witness answers, I have
11 to o b j e c t to you r c h a r a c t e r i z a t i o n of wha t thi s
1 2
d o c u m e n t is.
1 3
As the d o c ument shows, it is a copy
1 4 o b v i o u s l y typed on someone's typewriter, not on the
1 5 let t e r h e a d s t a t i o n e r y of J o h n s - M a n v i l l e C o r p o r a t i o n ,
1 6 and it app ears at least to me to be some typist's.
1 7 rendi t io n made with a t y p e w r i t e r of some d o cument
1 8 that we do not have .
1 9
If you wi l l a g r e e w i t h that
20
c h a r a c t e r i z a t i o n as o p p o s e d to the one that I t h i n k
2 1 you gave w h i c h is this is a c o p y of a letter w h i c h
22
suggests that it's on original stationery, I think
2 3 she can a n s w e r the q u e s t i o n or have it speak for^ -
24 i t s e l f .
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2 4
1
MR. S P E I G H T S : I'll c h o o s e none of t h o s e three,
2
a Ite rnat ive s .
3
BY MR. SPEIGhTS :
4
Q.
Ms. T o r r e y , w h a t is t h a t d o c u m e n t ,
5
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 2?
6
A.
I ' m not s u r e h o w it if y o u w a n t me to
7
a n s w e r t h a t . W h a t do y o u m e a n w h a t is it?
8
Q.
W o u l d you d e s c r i b e w h a t t h a t d o c u m e n t is,
9
please?
1 0
A.
This d o c u m e n t to me a p p e a r s to be a typed
1 1
re n d i t i o n , to use Mr. C a l e ' s word, of a letter. It
1 2
is not the o r i g i n a l . It has i n s t e a d of l e t t e r h e a d
1 3
the name u o h n s - M a n v i l l e t y p e d on it.
1 4
It bea r s the wo r d "Copy" on the top w h i c h
1 5
it's my understanding was a commonly used method'cf
1 6
m a k i n g a c o p y of a d o c u m e n t b e f o r e t h e r e w ere
1 7
photocopy machines available.
i 8
It is f r c m an i n d i v i d u a l w h o s e n a m e
1 9
a p p e a r s to be V a n d i v e r B r o w n i d e n t i f i e d as g e n e r a l
2 0
a t t o r n e y . It is a d d r e s s e d to J.S. O f f u t , a s s i s t a n t
2 1
to the president, United States Gypsum Company wifh
2 2
an a d d r e s s , re Dr. G a r d n e r - a s b e s t o s d u s t e x p e r i m e n t ,
23
ar.d it r e a d s , " R e p l y i n g f u r t h e r to y o u r s of A p r i l 1-9,
2 4
"9 3 7 , . I am e n c l o s i n g h e r e w i t h c o p y of Dr. G a r d n e r ' s
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25
1
f i r s t p r o g r e s s r e p o r t d a t e d M a y 5, 1 9 3 7 . "
-
2
I can o n l y s t a t e to y o u w h a t it s ays on
3
the letter.
4
Q.
Thank you. Now, I next show you this
5
d o c u m e n t and a sk if t h i s is a l s o one of the
6
d o c u m e n t s w h i c h you w e r e s h o w n by Ms. W o o d r u f f in
7
e a rly '80?
8
A.
It a p p e a r s to be the same d o c u m e n t . I
9
h a v e n ' t c o m p a r e d it wo r d for word. I w o u l d p ointy
1 0
o u t t h e s e a r e p h o t o c o p i e s . T h e o n e I h a d w a s a ..
11 tissue copy.
1 2
That document also bears the word "Copy"
I 3
on the top and, again, I would assume someone has
1 4
retyped that from something else.
-
1 5
MR. SPEIGHTS: I would ask that that d o c u m e n t
1 6
be m a r k e d as P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 3.
..
1 7
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
1 8
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No. 3,
1 9
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
20
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
.
2 1
Q.
W h a t is the t i t l e of t h a t d o c u m e n t and the
22
dat e of it, p l e a s e ?
2 3
A.
It s t a t e s " F i r s t P r o g r e s s Re porn on
_ '
2 4
A s b e s t o s i s E x p e r i m e n t s at the S a r a n a c L a o o r a t e r y , ^
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1
M a y 5, 1 9 3 7 . "
t
2
Q.
N o w , is it my u n d e r s t a n d i n g t h a t the
3
copies which Ms. W o o d r u f f showed you of P l a i n t i f f ' s
4
E x h i b i t 2, t h e l e t t e r f r o m V a n d i v e r B r o w n to J.S.
5
O f f u t t a n d P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 3, t h e f i r s t p r o g r e s s
6
report, were tissue copies?
7
A . Correct.
8
Q.
Next I'm going to show you a d ocumen t
Q
w h i c h has b e e n p r e v i o u s l y m a r k e d ^ a s 1693 and ask if
1 0
you can identify -- I'm not asking for a description
11
yet, but just if you r e c o g n i z e t h a t d o c u m e n t ?
1 2
A.
I have seen this document.
1 3
MR. SPEIGHTS: I'm going to ask that be m a r k e d
1 4
as P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 4, l e t t e r f r o m J . S . Offutt- to
1 5
G . G . K i n g d a t e d M a y 5, 1 9 3 7 .
'
1 6
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
1 7
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No.- 4,
1 8
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
1 9
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
2 0
Q. Y o u are a w a r e , Ms. T o r r e y , t h a t Mr. S m i t h
2 1 has t e s t i f i e d that this d o c u m e n t was also l o c a t e d k)y
2 2
Ms. W o o d r u f f in 1 9 8 0 ?
23
A. I h a v e n ' t read Mr. S m i t h ' s d e p o s i t i o n i n
24 I some time. I d o n ' t k n o w if t h a t ' s wh a t ne testirj.ec j
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2 7
1
to or n o t .
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t
2
Q.
As I understand your recollection, you .
3
d o n ' t k n o w w h e t h e r this d o c u m e n t was l o c a t e d in 1980
4
or 1984?
5
A . That's correc t .
6
Q. Okay. Would you d e s c r i b e this document to
7 m e , please?
8
A. It is a letter from J.S. Offutt identified
9
as a s s i s t a n t to the president, addressed to Mr. G.D.
10 King, research manager, B.M.R. Laboratories, Chicago,
1 1 attention Mr. C.C. Scheutz.
1 2
Do you want me to read the body of the
i 3
letter?
1 4
Q.
if you would.
>
1 5
A.
"The Saranac Laboratory of Saranac, New
1 6 York is mak i n g a t h r e e - y e a r study of asbestosis.
1 7 They are i n v e s t i g a t i n g in p a r t i c u l a r the effect o_n
1 3 guinea pigs of breathing asbestos dust.
1 9
We u n d erstand that the dust being used is
20
composed of pure fibrous asrestos free from all
2 1 ser p e n t i n e rock and other foreign particles, grourto
22
as fine as p o s sible anc then ball milled. It is
I
2 3 supplied by J o h n s-M a n v i 1 1 e from the
24
in the Danville section of the province of Quebec.
WMA
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crO o i-znijcxej a n d c O fiio c L a iti,O n e . dnicaoc . OtiLnoLi t 0 1 2 ) 72S^S7
28
1
In order that we can i n t e r p r e t r e s u l t s
.
A
2 obtained, we would a p p r e c i a t e your advising us if
3 the various types of asbestos we use would vary in 4 c h e mical co m p o s i t i o n or physical c h a r a c t e r s t i c s when
5 ground and ball milled from the Johns-Manville
6 asb e s t o s being used in this i n v e s t i g a t i o n . "
7
Q.
A n d t h a t l e t t e r , I b e l i e v e , is on U n i t e d
8
States Gypsum Company letterhead?
-
9
A.
Yes. It also has the t y p e d c.c . s on here,
1 0
and I seem to recall that other copies I have seen
1 1 had a check mark by the c.c., and there are file
1 2
notations on there inconsistent with United States
1 3
Gypsum Company filing systems.
1 4
Q.
I next show you a document which has been
1 5
previ ously marked P l ai n tif f' s Exhibit 1698 and ask
1 6
if t h a t is one of t h e d o c u m e n t s w h i c h Ms. W o o d r u f f
1 7
shewed you in ear l y 198C?
-
1 8
A.
A g a i n , w i t h o u t r e a d i n g it t h r o u g h w o r d by
1 9
w o r d , it is a r e p o r t of d u s t s u r v e y at N a t i o n a l
20
A s b e s t o s C o m p a n y p l a n t of U n i t e d States G y p s u m Cc.
2 1 at J e r s e y C i t y , N e w J e r s e y , and I a s s u m e it is w h a t
22
have been r e f e r r i n g t 0 as the J e r s e y City study
2 3
tha t was s h o w n t c me by D o n n a W o o d r u f f in 1 9 80.-
2 4
MR . SPE IG H T S : I ask t h a t be m a r k e d as
r
a n d c zd j-iio c ia tzi., O n e.. Ohicac. o, jOflinoii. O {312) 762-8087
29
1
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 5.
A
2
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
3
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h : b i t No. 5,
4
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
5
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
6
Q.
W h a t is the d a t e of the J e r s e y C i t y s t u d y ,
7
M s . To r rey?
8
A.
It states, m ade by the S a r a n a c l a b o r a t o r y
9
M a y 25 t h r o u g h J u n e 2, 1 9 3 6 . R e c e i v e d J u l y 31, 19 36.
1 0
I notice stapled to this are some other
1 1 materials that are not the Jersey City study.
1 2
MR. SPEIGHTS: Let's delete those.
1 3
MR. C A L E : S u r e .
1 4
MR. SPEIGHTS: Let's go off the record.
1 5
(WHEREUPON, discussion was had
'
1 6
off the record.)
.
1 7
BY MR. S P E IGHTS:
1 8
Q.
Ms. T o r r e y , w o u l d you agree with me that
1 9
this study r e f l e c t s a s t udy by Dr. G a r d n e r in 1935
20
of a plant f o r m e r l y owned by N a t i o n a l A s b e s t o s
.
2 1
C o m p a n y , the a s s e t s of w h i c h were p u r c h a s e d cy
22
United States Gypsum Company?
2 3
A . Ye s .
_ '
2 4
Q.
Did Dr. Gardner find --
v
HjHUbk. O V o fre, <zJx>oie.n(jt.xc] an d. c ^ d i i a c i a i z i , )-.
(2fliCC.OO, fliil 1.01
(212)
30
1
A.
E x c u s e me. Some of the a s s e t s of w h i c h .
t
2
w e r e p u r c h a s e d . I d o n ' t k n o w if it was all of t h e
3
assets .
4
Q.
Did Dr. G a r d n e r r e p o r t in t h i s s t u d y t h a t
5
the r e were cases of a s b e s t o s i s at this pl a n t ?
6
A.
I h a v e n ' t read th a t s t u d y in a long time.
7
If you wan t , I'm g o i n g to h a v e to read it and find
8
it. If y o u w a n t to p o i n t it out to me, I c a n a g r e e
o
w i t h y o u t h a t t h a t ' s w h a t it say.s in t h e r e .
__
1 0
Q.
L e t me do it thi s way. I'm g o i n g to s h o w
1 1
you a n o t h e r d o c u m e n t p r e v i o u s l y m a r k e d as
1 2
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 1697 and a s k if y o u are f a m i l i a r
1 3
with that document?
1 4
A.
I have seen this document.
1 5
MR. S P E I G H T S : I'm g o ing to ask that be m a r k e d
1 6
as P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t No. 6.
...
1 7
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
1 8
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No. 6,
1 9
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
20
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
,
2 1
Q.
I ' m g o i n g to s h o w y o u a n o t h e r d o c u m e n t riot
22
p r e v i o u s l y m a r k e d and ask if you are f a m i l i a r with
2 3
that document?
2 4
A.
I'm familiar g e ne r al ly with the contents
^VoCf-z,
a n d czd fiio c L a tzi.,O n e .
d n l z a a o , dJ[[in cit (312) 72-St o/
3 1
1 of the l e t t e r . W h e t h e r or not I h a v e in fact seen A
2
t h e l e t t e r b e f o r e , I d o n 't k n o w .
3
MR. S P E I G H T S : I 'm g o i n g to a s k t h a t t h a t
4
l e t t e r be m a r k e d as P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 7.
5
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
6
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No. 7,
7
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
8 BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
9
Q.
Now, to r e v i e w w h e r e we are on the J e r s e y
1 0
C i t y report, E x h i b i t 5 is the J e r s e y City r e p ort
1 1
itself pre p a r e d by Dr. G a r d n e r which was shown o
1 2
you by Ms. W o o d r u f f in 1980?
1 3
A . Correct.
1 4
q . E x h i b i t 6 is a l e t t e r f r o m G e n e r a l S e r v i c e
5
M a n a g e r , who I b e l i e v e e v e r y o n e a g r e e s was Mr.
1 6
P a r r i s h at t h a t t i m e , to W . L . R e a d y , cf A u g u s t 13.,
1 7
1936 which summarizes that report?
-
1 8
I- in p a r t a p p e a r s to s u m m a r i z e t h e r e p o r t .
1 9
Q.
A n d P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 7, a l e t t e r f r o m
20
Mr. Par r i sl t c the l a w f i r m of S c o t t M a c L e ish & F.alk
2 1
d a t e d A ug u s t 17, 1936, f o r w a r d s a c o p y of t h e
~
2 2
s umm a ry ana rep o r t t 0 th a t law firm?
2 3
A .
In part, it f c r w a r c s a c o p y of t hat, yes
2 4
Q.
An G Si S O c o m m e n t s on the report itself?,
\Wi
(IrV c fU ,
Chicago,
and
OLlincii
c d f i i v c u i U i ,jO n e .
(312j 762-8C'z
33
1
not possible from their findings to establish the
2
m a x i m u m safe c o n c e n t r a t i o n of a s b e s t o s dust in the
3
air."
4
Q.
To review because I may have confused the
5
record, what you ackn o w l e d g e that Ms. Woodruff
6
s h o w e d you in e a r l y 1980 was the l e t t e r from
7
V a n d i v e r B rown to J .S . Off u t t , the first p r o g r s s
8
report on a s b e s t o s i s e x p e r i m e n t s at the S a r a n a c
9
laboratory and the Jersey City report, those thr e 0
1 0
d o c u m e n t s h a v i n g b e e n m a r k e d as P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t
1 1
2, 3 and 5?
1 2
A.
Than 's cor rect .
1 3
Q.
Now, when you reviewed the documents, aid
1 4
you d i s c u s s t h e m w i t h Mr. S n e l l or s h o r t l y
1 5
thereafter?
'
1 6
A . I s h e w e d t h e m to him. I d o n ' t k n o w if,.we
1 7
d i s c u s s e d them as such.
1 8
Q.
You don't know whether you discussed the
1 S
details with him but you certainly discussed the
20
fact that the documents had been located with him?
2 1
A.
1 w o u l d c h a r a c t e r i z e it t h a t I b r o u g h t Co
22
his attention that I had been shown these documents.
- jI
2 3
Q.
And vou showed him the documents?
" j
2 4
A.
That's correct.
,
'
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a n d zd fiio cL a tei, O n e.
,n '.caac Sdlmoii (3:2; 72-80S7
32
1
A.
I'm not sure if c o m m e n t s on the r e p o r t is
t
2
an a c c u r a t e c h a r a c t e r i z a t i o n , but I won't argue with
3
it .
4
Q.
Now, would you read for me the first two
5
p a r a g r a p h s on the l e t t e r to Mr. R e a d y s u m m a r i z i n g in
6
part the Jersey City report?
7
A.
The first two paragraphs?
8
<2 . Y e s .
9
A.
"We have a c o m p r e hensive report of dust
1 0
c o n d i t i o n s in our J e r s e y C i t y p l a n t and a r e p o r t on
1 1
the x-rays of the e m p l o y e e s examined at that plant
1 2
by Dr. G a r d n e r ' s o r g a nization.
1 3
in brief, the findings are:
1 4
1. Diagnosis of a s b e s t o s i s for f i v e
1 5
men.
1 6
2. P o s s i b l y five a d d i t i o n a l m e n h a v e
1 7
a s b e s t o s i s but n e c e s s a r y to .
1 8
confirm by clinical correlation.
1 9
3. S e r i o u s a s b e s t o s d u s t ha z a r d
20
under present operations."
2 1
Q. Now, I'm going to refer back co t r.e rep or t
2 2
itself w h ic h *'.s. W o o d r u f f s h o w e d you in 1930 and ask
23
you to read on page 4 the ne x t co tne lasc p a r ag r ^ on
2 4
ri
*m he
authors
of
the
reoorc "
conc.ude
it
is
r
Q V o ifz,
and
iio c ia tz i, iJ n c.
(2fiLcaao, O iiin o ii (312) 72-80z7
34
1
Q.
And that was s o m e t i m e in e a r l y 1980?
.
C
2
A . Yes .
3
Q.
I understand Mr. Snell made a decision
4
c o n c e r n i n g t h e s e d o c u m e n t s at t h a t tim e , is t h a t
5
correct?
6
A.
Are you going to to ask me what the
7
decision is? Otherwise, I can't answer your
8
q u e s t i o n e x a c t l y the way y o u ' v e p o s e d it.
9
Q.
On th a t o c c a s i o n in e a r l y 1980, did Mr .
1 0
S n e l l m a k e a d e c i s i o n t h a t t h e s e d o c u m e n t s w o u l d ..not
1 1 be p r o d u c e d or r e v e a l e d in r e s p o n s e to d i s c o v e r y in
1 2
the asbestos cases?
1 3
A.
Mr. Snell made a d e te rm i na ti o n -- strike
1 4
that. Mr. Snell made a d e c i s i o n that United States
1 5
G y p s u m C o m p a n y w o u l d r e s p o n d in d i s c o v e r y to t h e -
1 6
e x t e n t of d o c u m e n t s w h i c h w ere U n i t e d States Gyps.um
1 7
C o m p a n y d ocument s a n d , the re f o re , we re deemed
1 8
v e r i f i e d .or w i t h r e s p e c t no i n f o r m a t i o n l e a r n e d
1 9
c u r r e n t or f o r m e r U n i t e d St ates G y p s u m C o m p a n y
20
employees.
2 1
It was his o p i n i o n u p o n r e v i e w of t h e s e ~
22
d o c u m e n t s th a t none of t h e s e t h r e e d o c u m e n t s were
23
U n i t e d S t a t e s G y p s u m C o m p a n y d o c u m e n t s m a i n t = i n e d i*n
24
t h e o r d i n a r y c o u r s e of b u s i n e s s b y U n i t e d St
a n A c y ^ tto c L a tc t,j j n c .
(2fiica3ot f j i i i n o i t 6 (312} 732-c OB?
3 5
1
G y p s u m C o m p a n y and, f u r t h e r , t h a t in his o p i n i o n ,
2
t h e y were d o c u m e n t s of the Keck law firm.
Since these were not United States Gypsum
4
Co m p a n y documents, they were not responsive to
b
d i s c o v e r y rec j e s t s in a s b e s t o s l i t i g a t i o n .
V
I think to make the answer complete, I
7
s h o u l d a lso p o i n t cut t h a t the q u e s t i o n of v e r i f y i n g
8
was the critical issue and that an attempt was made
9
to v e r i f y the i n f o r m a t i o n c o n t a i n e d in t h e s e
__
1 0
documents through United States Gypsum Company
1 1
s o u r c e s , e i t h e r t h r o u g h d o c u m e n t s that were c-.xted
1 2
S t a t e s G y p s u m C o m p a n y d o c u m e n t s or t h r o u g h c u r r e n t
1 3
or f o r m e r U n i t e d S t a t e s G y p s u m C o m p a n y e m p l o y e e s .
1 4
And in t h a t r e gard, we u n d e r t o o k a r a t h e r
1 5
e x t e n s i v e s e a r c h for i n f o r m a t i o n from, w h i c h to
1 6
ve r i f y the contents of these three documents.
1 7
Q.
Ms. Tcrrey, because you are a lawyer, I
1 8
think you have moved to my second and third
1 9
questions, and my first q u e s t i o n was simply was Mr.
20
Snell's bottom line d ecision that these documents.,
2 1
a b s e n t s o m e t h i n g else, w o u l d not be p r o d u c e d in *
22
r e s p o n s e to d i s c o v e r y in the p e r s o n a l i n j u r y or
2 3
property damage litigation?
_
2 4
I c a n ' t c h a r a c t e r i z e it t h a t way. It w ~
36
1 his judgment that the docum e n t s responsive to .
t
2
d i s c o v e r y w o uld be Unit e d S t a t e s G y p s u m C o m p a n y
3
d o c u m e n t s , and it was his o p i n i o n t h a t t h e s e die not
4
fall in t h a t c a t e g o r y . T h e r e f o r e , t h e y were not
5
produced .
6
q . As a r e s u l t of t h a t m e e t i n g w i t h Mr. Sn e l l ,
7
was it u n d e r s t o o d t h a t t h e s e d o c u m e n t s , P l a i n t i f f ' s
8
E x h i b i t s 2, 3 a n d 5, w o u l d n o t be p r o d u c e d in
-
9
response to discovery m the asbestos litigation _
1 O
absent some orher documentation?
.
1 1
A . What was the first part of that q u e s t i o n ?
1 2
MR . S P E I G H T S : R e a d it b a c k , p l e a s e .
1 3
(WHEREUPON, the record was read
1 4
by the r e p o r t e r as r e q u e s t e d . )
1 5
BY THE WITNESS:
1 6
A.
I ' m s o r r y . T h e o n l y w a y I c a n s t a t e i a.,
1 7
Mr. S p e i g h t s , is t h a t to the e x t e n t a n y t h i n g was -
1 8
unde r s t o o d at th a t t i m e , what was u n d e r s t o o d
1 9
that in Mr. Sne l l ' s ju d g m e n t , the d o c u m e n t s
2 O
w e r e r e q u i r e d to be p r o d u c e d in t he a s b e s t o s
2 1
litigation were United States Gyosum Company
2 2 d o c urne n t s o r i n f o r m t ion ac qu ired f r o m c ,, re n t or
23
f o r m e r Un ited ". ates G y p s u m C om p a n y empl o y e e ~ . _ -
2 4
In w as his o p i n i o n t h a t these docu-enos^.
n lo ffi,
e z R o ie .n C -e .r j <xnA c z R n c z i u t e i , r-
CCnLca-z. o, nrLri,me il
f ?*2'
3 7
1
were not United States Gypsum Company documents.
2
Therefore, they were not produced absent other
3
verification .
4
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
5
Q. A n d t h a t ' s the c a s e e v e n t h o u g h -- l e t ' s
6
ta k e t h e m in order. E x h i b i t 2 was a copy of a
7
letter from Mr. B r own of J o h n s - M a n v i 1 1 e to Mr.
8
Offutt, a s s i s t a n t tc the p r e s i d e n t of U.S. Gypsum-
9
C o m p a n y ; th a t is, the l e t t e r i t self was not a l e t t e r
1 0
to or from any U.S. Gypsum a t t o r n e y ?
...
1 1
A . T h e r e is no U.S. G y p s u m at to r n e y on t h a t
1 2
letter, that's correct .
1 3
Q . And the c o p y of the f i r s t p r o g r e s s r e p o r t
1 4
of M a y 5, 1937 , E x h i b i t 3, w a s an at tachn.ent to t h a t
1 5
l e t t e r to Mr . Of f u t t of U .S . G y p s u m C o m p a n y ?
1 6
A . Y e s , a n d it b e a r s t h e f i l e n o t a t i o n o f ..t h e
1 7
Keek f irm .
'
1 8
Q.
A h a n d w r i t t e n n o t e in t h e u p p e r right:hand
1 9
corner?
2 0
A.
T h a t ' s c o r r e c t , and it cam e out of a file
J.
2 1 that bore the same notation.
22
Q.
A n d E x h i b i t 5, t h e J e r s e y C i e v stu y /
23
bears no m e n t i o n t h e r e o n of any U.S. G y p s u m a w y e r ?
2 4
A.
T h a t 's m y r e c o l l e c t i o n . I w o u l d h .ve tp
\WA
< W / , e R o i-c .n ie .x c j a n d c e d f i i o c u i U i .,O n e . CFucaso, fj[Cine<t C (312; 7-22-SOS7
38
1
a g a i n , read it wor d for w o r d to v e r i f y it, but
r
2
that's my recollection.
3
Q.
And indeed, the other correspondence would
4
r e f l e c t t h a t the l a w f i r m g o t its c o p y of t h i s s t u d y
5
from U.S. Gypsum?
6
A.
But I d i d n ' t have that c o r r e s p o n d e n c e at
7
the ti m e in the 1980 ti m e frame.
8
Q.
I u n d e r s t a n d that. But we now know that
9
t h e c o p y of t h i s s t u d y g i v e n to ,the l a w f i r m c a m e _
1 0
from U.S. Gypsum, correct?
1 1
A.
That's what the correspondence would
1 2
a ppear to suggest.
1 3
Q.
Ms. Torrey, was this Mr. Snell's d e c i s i o n
1 4
or your d e c i s i o n ?
1 5
A.
Mr. Snell's decision, to the extern that,
1 6
a g ain, I h a v e c h a r a c t e r i s e d it as a j u d g m e n t and,.an
1 7
opinion.
1 8
Q.
It was Mr. S n e l l ' s j u d g m e n t and o p i n i o n ?
1 9
A . Yes, sir.
2 0
Q . You would agree with me that these
.
2 1
d o c u m e n t s re f l e e t on t h e i r f a c e t h a t s o m e b o d y in the
2 2
c o m p a n y h a d n o t i c e , s o m e b o d y in the oc r p o r a t e
23
s t r u c t u r e , h ad not ice of the t h ing s c o n t a i n e d i n _ t f e
2 4
documents?
r
Wi
nui
c z f^ c te .n c .'i a n d c d f i x o c i a t s - i .,O n .c .
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39
1
A.
I would agree with that statement today. -
A
2
I d o n ' t t h i n k I w o u l d have a g r e e d w i t h it in 1980.
3
Q.
Y o u w o u l d a g r e e w i t h me t h a t if one of my
4
c l i e n t s had d o c u m e n t s in t h e i r files, t h e y c o u l d not
5
l eg itimately protect them from dis cov er y simply by
6
giving them to me as their a t t o r n e y ?
7
MR. CALE : I'm going to object to that ques t i o n
8
and instruct her not to answer. I think that
-
9
c i e a r l v is c a l l i n g for he r j u d g m e n t as an a t t o r n e y
1 0
to e i t h e r a g r e e w i t h ycu or d i s a g r e e with you as an
1 1
a t t o r n e y as to w h a t you m i g h t or m i g h t not o p i n e to
1 2
a client.
1 3
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
1 4
Q.
F r o m the t i m e y ou m e t w i t h Mr. S n e l l in
1 5
e a rly 1980 until the time you ceased w orking on
1 6
a s b e s t o s cases on A u g u s t 20, '84, to your k n o w l e d g e ,
1 7
d i d 0 .S . G y p s u m C o m p a n y e v e r p r o d u c e any one of
1 8
t h e s e t h r e e d o c u m e n t s in any a s b e s t o s l a w s u i t ,
1 9
e i t h e r p e r s o n a l inj u r y or p r o p e r t y d a m a g e ?
20
A.
The re was a word m i s s i n g in your que s t io n .
2 1
I assume you mean produced to any plaintiff?
--
22
Q.
Yes.
23
A . T h a t ' s cor r e c t . I ' m n o t a w a r e t h a t a n v erf
24
t h o s e t h ree d o c u m e n t s w e r e e v e r o r o c u c e o a u r i c ^ -y*~ ^
addoiznC 's.-uj a n d c d fi.iO c L a z , j j n c . C k ica-qo, Ji[inoii C (312) 7^62-508y
1
time f r a m e .
2
MR. CALE: Off the record.
3
(WHEREUFON, discussion was had
4
off the record. )
5
(WHEREUPON, a recess was had.)
6
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
7
Q.
Ms. T o r r e y , I u n d e r s t a n d one of the
8
j u s t i f i c a t i o n s for not g i ving or p r o v i d i n g copies of
9
t h o s e d o c u m e n t s in d i s c o v e r y in ,1 9 8 0 w a s t h a t you,
1 0
t h a t is, the c o m p a n y w a n t e d to c o n d u c t in y o u r w o r d s
1 1
an e x t e n s i v e i n v e s t i g a t i o n to see w h a t if a n y
1 2
confirming documents might exist?
1 3
A.
That's correct.
1 4
Q.
Now, as I u n d e r s t a n d the p o s i t i o n of U - S .
1 5
G y p s u m C o m p a n y today, you b e l ieve that tne documents,
1 6
these later d o c u m e n t s I referred to, such as the
1 7
P a r r i s h letter and the let t e r to Mr. Ready, were
1 8
a c t u a l l y part or c o n t a i n e d in the b o x e s found by Ms.
1 9
W o o d r u f f in 1980, is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
2 0
A.
You have been provided with some memoranda
2 1
that Donna Woodruff wrote me, the reason sole
22
i n f e r e n c e f rom w h i c h is t h a t t h e s e
the three Keck
2 3
b o x e s were fo u n d by her in 1980. Does
a n s w e
24
veer Question?
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4 1
1
Q.
Yes. And, of c o u r s e , P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t
2
7 -- e x c u s e me, P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 6, a l e t t e r to
3
Mr. Ready s u m m a r i z i n g the J e r s e y City report, and
4
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 7, t h e l e t t e r f r o m Mr. P a r r i s h
5
f o r w a r d i n g the R e a d y letter on the J e r s e y Cicy
6
r e p o r t to the Re c k firm were found in t h o s e b oxes,
7
lat e r found in t h o s e b o x e s ?
8
A.
Yes, b ut I was not a w a r e of t h e m b e i n g in
9
those boxes until 1984.
_
1 0
Q.
I u n d e r s t a n d tha t . My q u e s t i o n is, in
1 1
your e x t e n s i v e s e a r c h or i n v e s t i g a t i o n , did you ever
1 2
go t h r o u g h the b o x e s w h i c h Ms. W o o d r u f f fou n d in
1 3
1980 ?
1 4
A.
No, because I don't know what boxes --at
1 5
that time, I did not know what boxes she had found
1 6
when we tried to go back through. I knew that she
1 7
had found one box, the s o - c a l l e d d e p a r t m e n t 198
1 8
silicosis box, which was t r a n s f e r r e d to the legal
1 9
d e p a r t m e n t at a b o u t the t i m e she d i s c o v e r e d it.
20
She d i s c o v e r e d th a t box at the same ti me
2 1
that I now know she disco ve red the other chree.
2 2
T h a t box has b e e n c o n t i n u o u s l y m a i n t a i n e d in tne
23
l e g a l d e p a r t m e n t s i n c e a p p r o x i m a t e l y J a m r* 1 9 8 Or
2 4
T h a o box b e a r s t h e n o t a t i o n b o x 1 of 2.
4 2
1
When we tried to go b ack and find box 2 of
2
2, w h i c h I a l w a y s a s s u m e d w a s t h e b o x o u t of w h i c h
3
t h e s e m a t e r i a l s h a d come., we c o u l d n ' t f i n d b o x 2 of
4
2 .
5
Q.
W e l l , l e t ' s c l a r i f y th ;t b e c a u s e I d ~ n 't
6
want the record to be confused.
7
One box which Ms. W o c d r u f f found which was
8
not a law firm box was taken to the legal d epartment?
9
A . Co r rect .
v.
.
1 0
Q.
And you don't know whether these three
1 1 docum e n t s we have been referring to were from that
1 2
box or the other thr e e b o x e s ? Y o u d o n ' t k n o w
1 3
w h e t h e r P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t s 5, 2 a n d 3 c a m e f r o m
1 4
t h a t box or some oth e r box or b o x e s ?
1 5
A.
D u r i n g the p e r i o d s o m e t i m e in the su m m e r
1 6
of 19 8 0 , w h i c h was after D o n n a W o o d r u f f had left,us,
1 7
through the peried 1984, I had a recollection that
1 8
D o n n a had f o u n d two b o x e s , h ad one of t h e m in the
1 9
d e p a r t me n t .
2 0
It b o r e a l a b e l t h a t s a i d box 1 o f 2 f r.om
2 1
w h ic h I c o u l d infer t h e r e was a s e c o n d be x . W e *
2 2
could find t h at sec o nd box. It was no t unt i l
2 3
that I k n e w o f 4-Yia a x i s g c 6 of the o h r0 0
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lied K e c k bo x e 3 . it w a s not: u n t i l r3 C 0 ^ j_ n --
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4 3
1
when the three Woodruff m e m o r an d a were located that
A
2
I know or became aware of the fact that tne three
3
b o xes found in 1984 were the same thr e e boxes
4
; o p a r e n t l y -- were the same b o x e s that Donna had
5
found in 1980.
6
Q.
I'm afraid we're getting ahead of
7
o u r s e l v e s . I'm g o i n g to a s k y o u a b o u t 1984 in
8
awhile. But I want to try to focus our attention.on
9
1960.
1 0
. In 1980, Ms. W o o d r u f f located among other
1 1
t h i n g s one box w h i c h was t r a n s f e r r e d to the legal
1 2
department?
1 3
A . That's correct.
1 4
Q. Oka y . A d d i t i o n a l l y , Ms. W o o d r u f f sent,.you
1 5
a m e m o r a n d u m in 1980 w h i c h r e f l e c t e d that she
1 6
located three boxes of documents, correct?
__
1 7
A. M a y I see w h i c h m e m o r a n d u m y o u ' r e
.
1 8
referring to? This m e m o r a n d u m suggests she found
1 9
t h r e e b o r e s in 1980.
20
MR. S P E I G H T S : I am g o i n g to ask that be m a r k e d
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2 1
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2 2
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
2 3
p l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i c i c N o . 3-,
2 4
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of " -29-55.)
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1
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
A
2
Q.
N o w my q u e s t i o n is, f i rst, in your
3
extensive search to see whether there were
4
confirming documents, for whatever reason, you did
5
not nor do you k n o w of a n y o n e who w e n t t h r o u g h the
6
t h r e e b o x e s r e f e r r e d to in P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 8
7
until 1984?
8
A.
That's correct.
-
9
Q.
In a d d i t i o n , in yo u r e x t e n s i v e s e a r c h for
1 0
several years, no one t h o r o u g h l y went through the
1 1 box which Ms. Woodruff brought t 0 the legal
1 2
department 7
1 3
A . Yes.
1 4
Q.
Yes, t h a t 's correct?
1 5
A.
Yes, that's c o r r e c t .
1 6
Q.
N o w , we are s t i l l in 1 9 8 0 . I t h i n k we
1 7
h a v e gone th rough M s . W o o d r u f f 1s d i s c o v e r y . I
1 8
b e l i e v e in 1980 also th a t the f i r s t l a w s u i t was
1 9
f i l e d a g a i n s t 13.S. G y p s u m b y b u i l d i n g o w n e r s
2 0
r e g a r d i n g a s b e s t o s - c o n t a i n i n g m a t e r i a l s in its
.
2 1 b u i l d i n g , is t h a t y o u r r e c o l l e c t i o n ?
2 2
A.
The Ci nn ami ns on School District case was
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f i l e d in 1980.
,,
2 4
Q.
Thao was a New Jersey school district? ,,
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1
A.Correct.
2
Q.
W h a t was th e p r o d u c t at i s s u e in t h e N e w
3
Jersey case?
4
A.
I h a v e not read t h a t c o m p l a i n t in m a n y
5
years, but I seem to recall that the c omplaint
6
itself referenced Audicote.
7
Q.
That was an acoustical plaster made by
8
U n i t e d S t a t e s G y p s u m C o m p a n y in p r e v i o u s y e a r s ? -
9
A . Co rrect .
.
1 0
Q.
W a s A u d i c o t e the m o s t n a m e d p r o d u c t in the
1 1
lawsuits against USG, the property damage lawsuits
1 2
against USG during the period you were involved?
1 3
A.
Oh, I can't state that because I never did
1 4
a c o u n t of the c o m p l a i n t s of h o w m a n y had the word
1 5
A u d i c o t e in them.
1 6
Q.
A u d i c o t e was an a c o u s t i c a l p l a s t e r sold, by
1 7
U.S. G y p s u m sold f r o m s o m e t i m e in the '50s into -
1 8
early 1970s?
1 9
A . Correct.
2 0
Q . A n d it was th e s u b j e c t o f o t h e r l a w s u i t s
2 1
besides the New Jersey lawsuit?
2 2
A . At some p o i n t in tim e , ye s .
2 3
Q.
Now, my u n d e r s t a n d i n g i s that in
2 4
c o n n e c t i o n w i t h that l a w s u i t in 1980, you wen t tc.
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4 6
1
the research d e p a r t m e n t and met with at least two -
A
2 g e n t l e m e n c o n c e r n i n g the p r o d u c t Audicote, is that
3 cor rect?
4
A.
That's correct.
5
Q.
And on that occasion, did you check out
e
the o r i g i n a l l a b o r a t o r y f i les m a i n t a i n e d at the
7
research d e p a r t m e n t on A u d i c o t e ?
8
A.
At my request, I was given what I
-
9
u n d e r s t o o d to be t h e w o r k i n g fi l^e s m a i n t a i n e d b y t h e
1 0
plasters l a b o r a t o r y relating to Audicote.
.
1 1
y.
How many files were there; what size was
1 2
t h e -- w h a t q u a n t i t y w e r e g i v e n to y o u ?
1 3
A.
I recall that the paper was organized into
1 4
files for a size paper e i g h t - a n d - a - h a l f by eleven
1 5
and th a t the t o t a l v o l u m e of file f o l d e r s w o u l d be
1 6
a b o u t t h r e e q u a r t e r s of a file d r a w e r .
1 7
Q . W o u l d y o u a g r e e w i t h me t h a t if y o u
1 8
s t a c k e d t h e m cn top of e a c h o t h e r , t h e y w o u l d be
1 9
a b o u t t h r e e feet in h e i g h t ?
2 0
A.
That's correct.
.
2 1
Q. N o w , t h e s e w e r e h a r d c o p i e s , w e r e n 't t h e y ?
2 2
A. T h a t ' s c o r r e c t .
23
Q.
And m any of t hem were r e s e a r c h reports_ '
2 4
w h i c h were also on m i c r o f i l m ?
T
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4 7
1
A.
That's correct.
2
Q.
But the hard copies alto included
3 m e m o r a n d a and h a n d w r i t t e n notes which would not he
4
on m i c r o f i l m , is that c o r r e c t ?
5
A.
It is c o r r e c t that I reca l l that t h e r e
6
would be m e m o r a n d a and h a n d w r i t t e n notes on those
7
files, and it is c o r r e c t tha t t h o s e m a t e r i a l s w o u l d
8
not be on microfilm.
9
Q.
What did you do with the hard copies of
1 0
these files?
1 1
A . I brought them back to my off ice
1 2
Q . And that still was 10 1 South W a c
1 3
A . T h a t 's correc t .
1 4
Q And for some period o f time, you
1 5 m a i n t a i n e d t h e m in y o u r i n d i v i d u a l o f f i c e ?
1 6
A . That'1s c o r r e c t .
1 7
Q Now , let me mo v e to 1981. I believe
1 8
that's when you told me that your prircipal joe
1 9
beginning in 1981 was c o o r d i n a t i n g U.S. G y p s u m ' s
20
d e f e n s e to a s b e s t o s p r o p e r t y da m a g e cases?
2 1
A.
Y e s , b e g i n n i n g ir. t h e f all of 1981 after-
2 2
my return from maternity leave.
2 3
0.
And in than c a p a c i t y , you c o n t i n u e d to '
2 4 r e oo r t no Mr. S n e l l ?
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48
1
A.
That's correct, except for there was a
2
p e r i o d of t i m e in 1984 w h e n Mr. L e i s t e n was
3
a s s o c i a t e g e n e r a l c o u n s e l and at that time I
4
formally repotted to him.
5
Q.
T h e f o l l o w i n g y e a r in 1982, my
6
understanding was you located some internal
7
o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n s , is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
8
A . Ye s .
9
Q.
Can you tell us wh a t an i n t e r n a l o p e r a t i n g
1 0
bulletin is?
1 1
A.
Well, let's back up. I knew about
1 2
o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n s p r o b a b l y in 1977 or 1978. I did
1 3
not l e a r n of o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n s in 1982.
1 4
Q. W h a t are o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n s ?
1 5
A.
O p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n s are of n u m e r o u s t y p e s .
1 6
It's a generic term relating to bulletins which are
1 7
h i s t o r i c a l l y m a i n t a i n e d by the com p a n y relating to
1 8
such thi n g s as p r o d u c t i o n m e t h o d s , plant safety,
1 9
plant operations, product formulations, marketing
20
information. I'm forgetting a category.
.
2 1
Q.
In any e v e n t , t h e y are i n t e r n a l document's
22
within U.S. Gypsum Company?
2 3
A. T h a t ' s c o r r e c t .
_ '
2 4
Q . And I show yon a copy of a m e m o r a n d u m f t o m
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4 9
1
S.K. T o r r e y to T.S. Sne l l d a t e d M a r c h 24, '82 and
2
ask if you r e c o g n i z e th a t d o c u m e n t ?
3
A.
I have seen this document recently.
4
MR. S P E I G H T S : I wou l d ask that be m a r k e d as
5
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 9.
6
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
7
P la i n t i f f ' s D e p osition Exhibit No. 9
8
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
9
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
1 0
Q.
The d o c u m e n t c o n s i s t s of t h r e e pages.
1 1 Would you agree with me that that document reflects
1 2
t h a t in 1982, you r e v i e w e d , a m o n g ot h e r s , o p e r a t i n g
1 3
bulletins dated 1943, 1948 and 1954?
1 4
MR. CALE: Can we take a minute?
1 5
MR. SPEIGHTS: Sure.
'
1 6
(WHEREUPON, discu ss ion was had
1 7
off the record between the witness
1 8
and Mr. C a l e , out of the
1 9
h e a r i n g of o t h e r c o u n s e l and the
20
court reporter.)
2 1
MR. CALE: Okay.
2 2
3Y THE WITNESS:
23
A.
Can you read the question back, please?
2 4
(WHEREUPON
record w
r e aa
5 0
1
by the reporter as requested.)
2
BY THE WITNESS:
3
A.
Yes.
4
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
5
2 ^ s h o w y o u a t w o - p a g e o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n
6
d a t e d A u g u s t 24, 1943, No. 2-5 and a s k you if t h a t
7
is the '43 b u l l e t i n r e f e r r e d to in tha t m e m o r a n d u m ?
8
A . Yes .
9
MR. S P E I G H T S : I w o u l d a s k v t h a t be m a r k e d as
1 0
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 10, c o n s i s t i n g of two pa g e s ,
1 1
operating bulletin.
1 2
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
1 3
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No. 10,
1 4
f o r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7-- 29 -- 86 . )
1 5
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
1 6
Q.
In your m e m o r a n d u m to Mr. Snell I b e l i e v e
1 7
y o u q u o t e d f r o m t h e 1943 b u l l e t i n , is t h a n c o r r e c t ?
1 8
A . Yes.
1 9
Q.
Would you read that quote, please?
20
A.
As r e v e a l e d in th e m e m o r a n d u m , it state.s,
2 1
"It is r e c o m m e n d e d t h a t b e f o r e any a p p l i c a n t for *
22
e m p l o y m e n t is h i r e d , the h i s t o r y of his p r e v i o u s
2 3
e m p l o y m e n t be f u l l y d e v e l o p e d . If t h e r e is a
~
24
q u e s t i o n a b l e h i s t o r y of e x p o s u r e to a s b e s t o s or ,,
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1
s i l i c a dust or an i n d i c a t e d p a r t i a l lung disability.
A
2
su c h as t u b e r c u l o s i s , the a p p l i c a n t s h o u l d not be
3
employed until satisfactorily passing a medical
4
examination. Such a medical examination shall
5
i n c l u d e the t a k i n g of c h e s t x - r a y s and the i r
6
i n t e r p r e t a t i o n by Saranac L a b o r a t o r i e s as set forth
7
in b u l l e t i n 4-5."
8
That concludes the quote from the bulletin.
9
Q.
A n d t h e n I b e l i e v e -- .1 w o u l d r e q u e s t t h a t
1 O
y o u r e a d t h e l a s t p a r a g r a p h on p a g e 2.
1 1
A.
The last p a r a g r a p h on page 2 states,
1 2
"I b e l i e v e t h e s e d o c u m e n t s are s u f f i c i e n t to i m p u t e
1 3
to the c o r p o r a t i o n some k n o w l e d g e of the
1 4
r e l a t i o n s h i p between exposure to asbestos and
1 5
d e v e l o p m e n t of some d i s e a s e . A c c o r d i n g l y . I nelieve
1 6
we are g o i n g to h a v e to d i s c l o s e t h i s in f u t u r e
1 7
answers to i n t e r r o g a t o r i e s d ep e n d i n g o b v i o u s l y on
1 8
the p r e c i s e w o r d i n g of the i n t e r r o g a t o r y . "
1 9
Q.
I'm now going to show you a document also
2 O
e n t i t l e d , " E l i m i n a t i o n of D u s t y C o n d i t i o n s " dated.
2 1
O c t o b e r 4 , 19 37 and a s k y o u if y o u r e c o g n i z e t h a t ""
22
C 0cument?
2 3
A . Do I race gnize it?
-
2 4
Q . Yes . r.a v a v c u s a a n it b e f o r e ?
csO o i.tljC'L^ CLTul aJ-i.OCUltci. ,O n e . Cnicavo, LnoU (312) 72-B0S^
5
1
A.
I have no idea .
.
f
2
Q.
You are familiar with operating bulletins
3
t h a t d o e s r e f l e c t t h a t it is an o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n
4
of U.S. G y p s u m Company, d o e sn't it?
5
A. Yes, it is.
6
Q. Is t h a t a p r e d e c e s s o r b u l l e t i n to
7
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 10 w h i c h y o u j u s t rea d f r o m ?
8
A.
No, at least not bas e d on the b u l l e t i n
9
numbe r .
.
1 0
Q.
I believe that --
1 1
A.
And you said a predecessor? What's the
1 2
date on that one?
1 3
Q.
1937.
1 4
A.
Well, the two bulletins have the same
1 5
t i t l e . My r e a s o n for s a y i n g th a t one is not a
1 6
p r e d e c e s s o r of t h e o t h e r is b a s e d s o l e l y on the
1 7
bulletin number.
1 8
Q.
W e l l , I b e l i e v e y o u a l s o n o t e in y o u r
1 9
memorandum that the previous operating bulletin,
2 0
that is, the i m m e d i a t e l y p r e v i o u s one, had not been
2 1
located.
2 2
A.
No. No. We have not located 4-5. I
2 3
d o n ' t k n o w t h a t 4-5 is t h e p r e d e c e s s o r to t h i s o n e r
2 4
4-5 is r e f e r e n c e d in the q u o t e d p a r a g r a p - .
r
Q V o C fz, <ad^oi.s.n!j.xc a n d c T f a o c L a tz i, dJfzc. Cfuzaao, dJCUnott t (312) T2`BGS?
53
1
Q . Is that 4-5?
2
A.
No, t h a t ' s 4-5-i.
3
Q.
So t h a t ' s not the same as the 4-5 r e f e r r e d
4
to in this?
5
A.
I w o u l d h ave to go b a c k t h r o u g h all of
6
t h e m , but I am a s s u m i n g t h a t t h e r e is a 4-5 s e p a r a t e
7
from 4-5-1.
8
Q.
Now, I also believe -- we are up to 1982,
9
Ms. T o rrey. I also b e l i e v e in 1982 that other
1 0
l a w s u i t s were filed a g a i n s t U.S. G y p s u m C o m p a n y on
1 1
b e h a l f of b u i l d i n g o wners.
1 2
A. I r e c a l l one, p o s s i b l y t w o in 1982.
1 3
Q. A n d t h e n in 1 9 8 3 , s o m e o t h e r l a w s u i t s w e r e
1 4
filed on beha l f of b u i l d i n g own e r s ?
..
1 5
A.
Since -- continuously since 1982, there
1 6
have been suits filed.
__
1 7
Q.
And a m o n g t h o s e c a s e s f i l e d in 1982 and
1 8
the first half of 1983 w o u l d ha v e b e e n L e x i n g t o n ,
1 9
South Carolina, Greenville, South Carolina,
2 0
Huntsville, Alabama and Spartanburg, South Carolina?
2 1
A . I r e c a l l s p e c i f i c a l l y t h a t L e x i n g t o n w as-
22
s e r v e d cn U n i t e d S t a t e s G 'p s u m C o m p a n y the day aft e r
23
M a n v f i l e filed b a n k r u p t c y w h ich w o u l d put it, I 1 -
2 4 b e l i e v e , at A u g u s t 26, '82.
y
VoC^t,
Chicago,
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54
1
The other cases you mentioned were filed
r-
2
s o m e t i m e t h e r e a f t e r . W h e t h e r it was lat e '82 or
3
e a r l y '83, I would have to c h e c k the records.
4
Q.
In any event, as a result of these cases,
5
U.S. G y p s u m had to respond to various d i s c o v e r y
6
requests?
7
A . Yes.
8
Q.
And those discovery requests included both
9
requests for U.S. Gypsum documents and written
1 0
i n t e r r o g a t o r i e s or q u e s t i o n s to U.S. G y p s u m C o m o a n y
11 by the school districts?
1 2
A . Yes.
1 3
Q.
You c o o r d i n a t e d the responses to tnis
1 4
discovery?
-
1 5
A.
That's correct.
'
1 6
Q.
In r e s p o n s e to this d i s c o v e r y , did you,,
1 7
r e v e a l or p r o d u c e a n y of the t h r e e e x h i b i t s w h i c n
1 8
you r e v i e w e d in 1980 th a t Ms. W o o d r u f f p r e s e n t e d to
1 9
you, that is, eit h e r the l e t t e r from Mr. Brown to
2 0
Mr. O f f u t t cr the first p r o g r e s s report or Dr.
,
2 1
G a r d n e r ' s st uc y of the J e r s e y C ity p lan t ?
2 2
A.
I 'm h a v i n g t r o u e l i n g W i t h y o u r que s a ion
2 3
only because I believe you ask ed g id I ever c a use a o
2 4
be p r o d u c e d a n y of the se t h r e
m h e a n s w e r - ^ t h a n
czf^oicnDz.'Uj and
Cinicaa c , O t i l r i o i i # (312) 7>S2-0B7
,O n : .
5 5
1
is no, I did not c a u s e any of t h e s e t h r e e to be
2
produced.
3
If the q u e s t i o n is h a v e any of t h e s e t h r e e
4
ever been produced, I don't know the circumstances
5
of t h e i r being p r o d u c e d to you in S p a r t a n b u r g
6
b e c a u s e I b e l i e v e t h e y w e r e p r o d u c e d in r e s p o n s e to
7
d i s c o v e r y . And S p a r t a n b u r g would have been filed at
8
about the same time as your other cases.
-
9
Q.
Let me rephrase the question.
_
1 0
In r e s p o n s e s to d i s c o v e r y in 1983 in any
1 1
of the s e four cases, L e x i n g t o n , G r e e n v i l l e ,
1 2
H u n t s v i l l e or S p a r t a n b u r g , did you eith e r p r o d u c e or
1 3
refer to the three d o c u m e n t s which Ms. W o o d r u f f
1 4
p r e s e n t e d to you in 1980, t h a t is, the 3 r o w n to -
1 5
O f f u t t l e t t e r , t h e f i r s t p r o g r e s s r e p o r t or the N e w
1 6
Jersey study p e r f o r m e d by Dr. Gardner?
-
1 7
A.
If we refer s p e c i f i c a c i y to any of t h e s e
1 8
t h r e e d o c u m e n t s in any d i s c o v e r y fil e d in t h o s e
1 9
c a s e s in 1983, the a n s w e r is no.
2 0
Q.
Now, I g o not want to review the entire.
.1
2 1 d i s c o v e r y of t h o s e t h r e e c a s e s .
2 2
A . Thank you.
2 3
Q.
But I would ask you to read
24
i n t e r r o g a t o r y 77 and the a n s w e r in tn e er
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56
1
c a s e and r e q u e s t No. 10 and t h e r e s p o n s e in t h e
2
Greenville case.
3
A.
W e l l , y ou are s h o w i n g me s o m e t h i n g t h a t is
4
not --
5
Q.
I ca n s h o w you the a c t u a l d i s c o v e r y if y o u
6
would like.
7
A.
I'll read w h a t ' s h e r e and you h a v e t:
8
r e p r e s e n t that t h a t ' s what it is. I don't k n o w w h a t
9
it is, but I'll read it.
.
1 0
Q.
No, I'll just get it out then. Ms. Torr e y ,
1 1
I s h o w you the G.S. G y p s u m C o m p a n y ' s r e s p o n s e s to
1 2
p l a i n t i f f ' s f i r s t set of i n t e r r o g a t o r i e s in the
1 3
G r e e n v i l l e case, d a t e d or v e r i f i e d on June 28, 1983.
1 4
I a s k you to read i n t e r r o g a t o r y 77 -- it's not
1 5
n e c e s s a r y to read the subparts -- and U.S. Gypsum
1 6
C o m p a n y ' 1s r e s p o n s e to t h a t i n t e r r o g a t o r y .
,
1 7
A . Q u e s t i o n 77 w i t h o u t the s u b p a r t
-
1 8
s t a t e s , "Did you d i rec t to be p e r f o r m e d , s p o n s o r ,
1 9
f i n a n c e or r e c e i v e the r e s u l t s of any s t u d i e s or
20
tests p e f o r m e d by the S a r a n a c Lake L a b o r a t o r y or the
2 1 Trudeau F o undation relating to asbestos exposure anc
22
its e f f e c t on h u m a n 1 i fe . If so, i d e n t i f y . "
2 3
The r e s p o n s e i , "None of w h i c h t h i c
-
2 4 d e f e n d a n t is c u r r e n t l y a w a re ."
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addoi-znC 'c ta a n d c d 'f ito c ia tL i., dJnC) C k i z a a o , i t l n o i i . (3 T2: 762-80S7
57
1
Q.
In addition to that, I b elieve that
2 Greenville served requests to produce on U.S. Gypsum.
3 Do you recall that?
4
A.
I don't s p e c i f i c a l l y recall it. I'm sure
5 you did.
6
Q.
Do you recognize this order of judge
7 Wilkins?
8
A . Yes .
9
Q.
And I b e l i e v e J u d g e W e l k i n s on page 3 _
1 0
q u o t e s r e q u e s t No. 10 and t h e r e s p o n s e , a g r e e d ?
1 1
A. That's what it appears to be, yes.
1 2
Q. W o u l d y o u r e a d th e r e q u e s t to p r o d u c e 10
1 3
and U.S. Gypsum Company's response?
1 4
A.
It states, "Any and all other records,,
1 5 c o r r e s p o n d e n c e , m i n u t e s or other d o c u m e n t s of -his 16 defendant including all subsidiaries, divisions and 17 predecessor entities wherein the potential health
1 8 effects cf a s b e s t o s have been d i s c u s s e d . "
1 9
Response, "Documents responsive to this
20
request have recently been found and will be
.
2 1 forwarded to plain t i f f ' s attorney."
22
Q. Now, in response, my u n d e r s t a n d i n g is,
23
again, you did not produce the documents located ^ b y
2 4 Ms. W o o d r u f f in 1 9 8 0 beca u s e or one judgment: Mr. _
W iftfA
W oLft,
and cOfi-LOcixits.a, One..
C k u a Q o . fJC Lr.cu e (3i2,W2-ecs-'
1 8 "i
1
Snell made at that time?
2
A . Yes.
3
Q . Ad ditionally, you did not procure the 1943
4
o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n t h a t we ha v e now m a r k e c as
5
P l a i n t i f f 's E x h i b i t 10, is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
6
A.
I don't know.
7
Q.
Y o u do n o t k n o w w h e t h e r y o u p r o d u c e d t h e '4 BI
8
b u l l e t i n or not?
'
9
A.
In any d i s c o v e r y ?
1 0
Q.
No, in r e s p o n s e to t h a t r e q u e s t to p r o d u c e
1 1
in 1983.
1 2
A.
Oh, in '83. I d o n ' t b e l i e v e so.
1 3
Q.
A d d i t i o n a l l y , Ms. T o r r e v , in 1S83,
1 4
s o m e t i m e d u r i n g the m i d d l e of that year, t h e s e t a ree
1 5
d o c u m e n t s , E x h i b i t s 2, 3 a n d 5, f o u n d b y Ms.
1 6
W o o d r u f f in 1 5 8 9 , w e r e t r a n s f e r r e d f r o m U.S. G y p s . u m 's
1 7
h e a d q u a r t e r s , is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
'
1 8
A . Yes.
1 9
Q.
My u n d e r s t a n d i n g is f r o m 1980 w n e n t h e y
20
were d i s c o v e r e d until so m e t i m e around June or J u l y ,
2 1
1983, t h e y w e r e l o c a t e d or m a i n t a i n e d m the lega_
22
d e p a r t m e n t at U.S. G y p s u m ' s h e a d q u a r t e r s an 101
2 3
South Wacter, Chicago?
. "
2 4
A . Th;
c o y r a r*
O.icffz,
'
Chicaao,
and c ^ t t o c ia U t , One..
U C L r . o U (3 ` 7 B 2 - S C B 7
5 9
1
w h i c h they were given to me.
2
Q.
Sometime during that period, you directed
3
a n o t h e r a t t o r n e y in the U.S. G y p s u m C o m p a n y 1leg a l
4
d e p a r t m e n t to carry them to the Keck firm which had
5
represented you over the years -- represented U.S.
6
Gypsum over the years?
7
A . Yes.
8
Q.
Was any i n v e n t o r y m a d e of wh a t was
-
9
actually carried over there?
.
1 0
A . Wo.
1 1
Q.
Was any cover letter prepared which
1 2
a c c o m p a n i e d the d o c u m e n t s or w h i c h f o l l o w e d up on
1 3
the transfer?
1 4
A . No .
'
1 5
Q.
Was t h e r e any c h a i n of c u s t o d y d o c u m e n t
1 6
e x e c u t e d w h e n y o u t r a n s f e r r e d t h e s e to t h e K e c k f,i rm .
1 7
A.
None of w h i c h I am aware.
1 8
Q.
War there any receipt slip executed over
1 9
at the Keck firm signing for the doc u m e n t s ?
20
A.
I d o n ' t k n o w w h e t h e r one was or not.
2 1
h a v e not s e e n one. I d o n ' t k n o w if t h e y n a v e soraf
22
internal system that they may have maintained.
2 3
Q.
It's also my understandin
ose
24
60
1
t h r o u g h o u t the b a l a n c e of your t i m e as the
-
A
2
c o o r d i n a t o r of the p r o p e r t y d a m a g e l i t i g a t i o n , that
3
is, u n t i l A u g u s t of 1984, is t h a t c o r r e c t ?
4
A.
I don't personally knew what the Keck firm
5
did wi t h the d o c u m e n t s . I r e q u e s t e d that t h e y be
6
m a i n t a i n e d as they wou l d any of t h eir other
7
h i s t o r i c a l client files. I had no reason to ask for
8
the d o c u m e n t s or to r e q u e s t to see the d o c u m e n t s or
9
have to have anything to do withr the documents
1 0
during the remaining time I was involved the
1 1 asbestos litigation.
1 2
Q . You do recognize now, however, that the
1 3
a c t u a l c o p y of E x h i b i c 2, t h e l e t t e r f r o m V a n d i v e r
1 4
B r o w n to J . S . O f f u t t , and t h e l e t t e r f r o m -- a n d th
1 5
first pro g r e s s report a t t a c h e d tc that letter have
1 6
not been located?
.
1 7
A.
I have been told that the tissue copy I
1 8
r e c a l l s e n d i n g -- t h a t I r e c a l l I had w h i c h is the
1 9
one I sent back has not been located.
20
Q. A d d i t i o n a l l y in 19 8 3 , y o u d i s c o v e r e d th.at --
2 1
or b e g i n n i n g in 1983, y ou no l o n g e r c o u l d l o c a t e the
22
r e s e a r c h d o c u m e n t s or. A u d i c o t e t h a t we d i s c u s s e d
2 3
05.r3.i0r?
2 4
A . T h a t ' s c o r r e c t . T h a t h a p p e n e d in M a r c h , o f
W 'B IB k
Ui/} c, c:^oi.n[?E.zj and zdfiiocLaa, dJnc.
CL C CLO O f CJitinoLi (312) 7S2-BC37
6 1
1 1983.
t-
2
Q.
And as of thi s dat e in 1986, t h o s e f o l d e r s
3
approximately three feet high have not been located
4
to your knowledge?
5
A.
In the last year, year and a qu a r t e r , I
6
have been shown a number of f o l d e r s for my o p i n i o n
7
as to w h e t h e r any of t h e s e in f a c t w e r e any of the
8
documents that I had relating to the co-called
-
9
A u d i c o t e w o r k i n g fil e s in 19 80 .
1 0
One file c o n f o r m s to my r e c o l l e c t i o n of
1 1 what those files looked like, but I cannot
1 2
p o s i t i v e l y c o n f i r m that any of t h e s e w h i c h I have
1 3
been shown in fact were those that I had.
1 4
Q.
When were you shown this one that conforms?
1 5
A.
I r e c a l l b e i n g s h o w n it two w e e k s ago w h e n
1 6
it c o n f o r m e d to my r e c o l l e c t i o n . I may have b e e n
1 7
s h o w n tha t same one e a r l i e r in t h i s same t ime p e r i o d J
1 8
I just d e s c r i b e d . But as of a b o u t two w e e k s ago, it |
1 9
l o o k e d to me w h e n I s a w it t h a t it c o n f o r m e d to my
20
recollection.
.
2 1
Q . W h o s h o w e d it to you
2 2
A . My former secret ary.
2 3
Q.
W a s it one fi l e fo l d
2 4
A . Correct .
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,O n e .
6 2
1
Q.
Did she indicate that it w a s pulled f r o m a
A
2
group?
3
A. I'm not sure. It was in the legal
4 d e p a r t m e n t . It was on the sixth floor.
5
MR. SPEIGHTS: Mr. Cale, I paused hopi n g that
6
you would v o l u n t e e r to go get that file or whatever
7
files I have been seeking since 1983. I don't want
8
to have to return and repeat this process. Is that
9
available?
_
1 0
MR. CALE:
It isa v a i l a b l e .
Infact, it is in
1 1
-he document production system of the company, i.e.,
1 2
those documents that are regularly made available.
1 3
Why don't we -- I'm ]ust trying to think for a
14 minute. 1 5
Let's take a break and let me confer with
1 6
counsel and see where we go on that one.
1 7
(WHEREUPON,d i s c u s s i o n
was had
.
1 8
off the record.)
1 9
MR. SPEIGHTS: Let's go back on the record.
2 0 BY M R . S P E I G H T S :
2 1
Q Ms. T o r r e y , d u r i n g the b r e a k , c o u n s e l h a-s
2 :
P r OV id e d me one file f o l d e r , les s than an inch thick,
2 3
_n a a igrit a r e e n colo r m a r k e d A u c i c o t e .
*
'> A
~bis che file folder vo u were rererring
<TV o i j z ,
cd^ oicn z-icj a n d ir.to, i i i n o l t . O
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63
1
o t h a t c o n f o r m s at l e a s t in p a r t to w h a t y o u r e c a l l
2
s being the way the research documents were set up?
3
A . Yes.
4
Q.
Y o u d o n ' t k n o w w h e t h e r t h i s is one of i_he
5
;hree-foot stack or not?
6
A.
I c a n ' t c o n f i r m it p o s i t i v e l y .
7
Q.
And your r e c o l l e c t i o n , I b e l i e v e , is t h a t
e
;he file f o l d e r s t h a t you got in 1980 from the
-
9
r e s e a r c h d e p a r t m e n t w e r e b l u e inv,color?
_
1 0
A . T h a t 's co r rect .
1 1
Q.
And you don't know to this day anything
1 2
a b o u t e i t h e r the b a l a n c e of the t h r e e - f o o t s t a c k or
1 3
the t h r e e - f o o t s t a c k i t s e l f , if t h i s is not one of
1 4
the stack?
"
1 5
A . That's correct.
'
1 6
MR. C A L E : O b v i o u s l y , s u b j e c t tc all the thijics i
1 7
t h a t she has t e s t i f i e d tc on t h i s s u b j e c t in her -
1 8 p r i o r d e p o s i t i o n in this case.
1 9
MR. SPEIGHTS: I'm gcing to ask that coun s e l
20
p r o v i d e me a c o p y of e v e r y t h i n g in t h i s file f o l d e r
2 1
he c o p y of t he f il e f o l d e r i t s e l f .
2 2
MR. C A L S : It V*i 11 be d e n e
2 3
MR.
SPEIGH
rp
C
.
If possible , I would like t c _
2 4
one thing done tod ay to g iv e me s o m e t h i n g tc ,
QVofj-c.
anA c^rfiiociaizi, fjnc.
CZuomo, DiLnoit O (2'21 ^E2-8CS7
6 t
1
read on the airplane.
2
MR. CALE: We'll try.
3
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
4
q _ Ms. T o r r e y , I think we have talked up to
5
now the period 1979 up t h r o u g h 1983. I want to talk
6
to you a few m i n u t e s about 1984.
7
Y o u are a w a r e t h a t J u d g e W i l k i n s in the
8
Greenville case conducted a hearing on the
5
d e f e n d a n t ' s r e s p o n s e s to d i s c o v e r y from J a n u a r y 9,
r -
1 0
1 9 84 ?
1 1
A . Yes.
1 2
q . i believe your local counsel provided you
1 3
a c o p y of the ru l i n g m a d e by J u d g e W i l k i n s at that
1 4
hearing?
-
1 5
A.
I was provided a portion of the transcript
1 6
which contained that rule, yes.
__
1 7
q.
i show y o u thi s d o c u m e n t and a s k you if it
1 8
is a p o r t i o n of a t r a n s c r i p t y o u w e r e p r o v i d e d ?
1 9
A.
It a p p e a r s to be.
20
Q.
I n s o f a r as as J u d g e W i l k i n s ' s ruling
^
2 1
a D o l i e s to n o t i c e d o c u m e n t s , I w o u l d a s k y o u to r e*aa
2 2
that ruling which I have I believe bracketed for you
23
A.
The p o r t i o n you have b r a c k e t e d re ^ --
2 4
v!Vr3- , 11V1ini--i -IL
nav considered
things,
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65
1
p l a c e all the p a r t i e s on n o t i c e t h a t t h i s o r d e r is
2
being issued with the court's full understanding and
3
intent to apply rule 37(B)(2)(C) to any offending
4
p a r t y of t h i s o r d e r w h i c h w i l l i n c l u d e the court,
5
e n t e r i n g a d e f a u l t j u d g m e n t or d i s m i s s i n g the a c t i o n
6
against the offending party.
7 There must be a time w h ere these m a t t e r s
8
are laid to rest and you get on to new b u s i n e s s and
9
the b u s i n e s s of r e s o l v i n g this c o n t r o v e r s y .
.
1 O
All t h e d e f e n d a n t s s h a l l a n s w e r w i t h i n . ..30
1 1 d a y s . I m i g h t add the c o u r t is g o i n g to r e v i e w the
1 2
responding answers with its i n t e r p r e t a t i o n of good
1 3
faith, reasonable effort to comply and will not deal
1 4
nor allow j u s t i f i c a t i o n to be based on s e m a n t i c s .
1 5
All defendants shall answer this
'
1 6
i n t e r r o g a t o r y t h a t t h e c o u r t p r o p o u n d s w n _ c h is ..
1 7
p e r h a p s a c o m b i n a t i o n of n u m b e r s tr.at h a v e a l r e a a v
1 8
been p r o p o u n d e d . The date that the c o m p a n y cr its
1 9
o f f i c e r s or its a g e n t s or its e m p l o y e e s to the b e s t
20
of t h a t c o m p a n y ' s a n i l i t y m u s t s t a t e the date t h a t
2 1
t h e s e i n d i v i d u a l s r e c e i v e d i n f o r ~ a t i o n w r i t t e n or
22
oral, first bec a m e aware of, firs" became sasp.v..Ou.
2 3
or the r ^ .u
a s b e s t o s iTiay be
2 4
and ail s i m i l a r i n f r m a t e on s - r*a. :hat
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r - aac o::^ou (312-'2SCS7
66
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0
1 1 1 2
1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0
2 1
2 2 2 3 2 4
This includes information acquired
nd i v i d u a l l y by the company, its o f f i c e r s , agents,
n.ployees and information that was generally known
n the i n d u s t r y . It also i n c l u d e s any facts, any
lata, any reports, any opinions which tend to
upport the b e l i e f t h a t a s b e s t o s is a h a r m f u l
product to health." MR. SPE I G H T S : I'm going to ask that be m a r k e d
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 11.
^
.
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No. 11
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
Q.
Now, in r e s p o n s e to t h a t c o u r t ord e r , did
vou coordinate the U.S. Gypsum Company response?
A . Y e s , I c o o r d i n a t e d it
--
Q.
Did y ou and, I t h i n k , M r . S m i t h in f a c t
p r e p a r e the fi r s t d r a f t of it?
A . Yes.
Q.
Did you consult with Mr . Snell c o n c e r n i n g
the response?
A . Yes, brief ly .
Q.
I sho w you t h i s doc um e nt and ask you if -
hat is the r e s p o n s e w h i c n U .S . G y p s u m C o m p a n y filed,
WM
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and cOJ-ttociaUt, One.
(J.nicG.Qc, it m o L
(312) /t2`8w37
6 7
1 again in response to Judge Wilkins's ruling which
A
2
you have just read into the record?
3
A.
Yes, it a p p e a r s to be.
4
MR. S P E I G H T S : I ask t h a t be m a r k e d as
5
p l a i n t i f f ' s Exhibit 12.
6 (WHEREUPON, said document was marked
plaintiff's Deposiiion Exhibit No. 12
7
8
for identification, as of 7 -- 29 -- 86 .)
9
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
.
1 0
Q.
Would you read the first two paragraphs^ of
1 1
:hat response?
1 2
A.
"United States Gypsum Company (hereinafter
1 3
c a l l e d 'U S G ' ) r e s p o n d s to the 'notice' i n t e r r o g a t o r y
1 4
p r o p o u n d e d b y tire H o n o r a b l e w i l l 1 a m W. W i l k i n s on.
1 5 January 9, 1 9 8 4 as f o l l o w s :
1 6
A thorough review of USG files and
1 7
r e c o r d s w h i c h c o u l d be i d e n t i f i e d as p o s s i b i l i t y .
1 8
containing inf o rmation encompassed by this
1 9
interrogatory reveals that on or about September 3
20
19 4 8 , is t he e a r l i e s t d o c u m e n t e d d a t e u p o n w h i c h U SG
2 1
or any of its o f f i c e r s , e m p l o y e e s or a g e n t s in an -
z z
individual or corporate capacity first became
1
z z
suspicious cr
2 4
a n d c^rJ-i-tocLats-i, d J n c. '312: 7S2-S0S7
68
1
Q.
Now, Ms. Torrey, would you agree with me
2
that you did not reveal the letter from Mr. Brown to
3
Mr. O f f u t t of 1937 or the first p r o g r e s s re p o r t or
4
the J e r s e y C i t y s t u d y p r e p a r e d by Dr. G a r d n e r in
5
1936 in r e s p o n s e to the c o u r t ' s i n t e r r o g a t o r y ?
6
A.
T h ose d o c u m e n t s were not p r o d u c e d or
7
i d e n t i f i e d in r e s p o n s e to the c o u r t ' s i n t e r r o g a t o r y ,
8
correct.
9
Q.
Did you s p e c i f i c a l l y discuss with Mr.
1 0 Snell whether he should revisit the issue of w h e ther
1 1 these docum e n t s should be revealed in light of Judge
12 Wilkins' ruling?
1 3
A.
I gave Mr. Snell a copy of <_he draf l
14 response which had been prepared along with copies
1 5 of the docum e n t s we were p r o p o s i n g to identiL\ cr.d
1 6 produce and raised with him the que s t i o n of the K.eck
17 documents.
1 8
Q. And was Mr. Snell's p o s i t i o n i_he same,
1 9 that is, that those d o c u m e n t s should not be re\ea l e d ?
2 0
A. His p o s i t i o n was the same, t h a u the proper
2 1 response on behalf of the c o m pany would include *
2 2 d o c u m e n t s which were United States Gyp s u m Compar.;.
23
documents, and that in his opinion, again, these_ -
2 4 were not United States G y p s u m C o m p a n y a o c u.ue r.-s . r
WM
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6 9
1
Q. And, again, that was his j u d g m e n t ?
/
2
A . Correct.
3
Q.
Did you p r o v i d e or refer to the 1943
4
o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n in r e s p o n s e -.o Judge W i l k i n s '
5
notice interrogatory?
6
A.
It does not appear on the list, no.
7
Q. A d d i t i o n a l l y on the second page, you refer
8 to the Saranac study or the m e m o r a n d u m of agr e e m e n t .
9
Would you read that part of the p a r a g r a p h
1 0
tome?
1 1
A.
" A d d i t i o n a l l y , USG is a w a r e of a
1 2
' m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t ' d a t e d N o v e m b e r 20, 1936
1 3
p r o d u c e d in oth e r l i t i g a t i o n w h i c h s u g g e s t s t h a u USG
1 4
may have c o n t r i b u t e d to a study c o n d u c t e d by Dr. -
1 5
Le Roy G a r d n e r at S a r a n a c Lake L a b o r a t o r y c o m m e n c i n g
1 6
in 1936. H o w e v e r , a s i n d i c a t e d on t h e l i s t i n g , U,S
1 7
c o u l d not c o n f i r m whe t h e r or to w h a t e x t e n t it m a y
1 8
ha v e part ic ipate d in the s t u d y or r e c e i v e d the
19 findings."
2 0
Q. Now, I b elieve s hortly after that you
2 1 stated earlier you att e n d e d the trial of -he
2 2 L e x i n g t o n case in South C a r o l i n a ?
2 3
A. Yes.
2 4
Q. And curing that trial, Le x i n g t o n ' s
w
T
<"V('o [fz,
and C"2h.ic.aQO, 0*~tinoLi
(312} ^S2-8a '
,O n e .
7 0
1
ittorneys attempted to introduce the memorandum of
2 agreement and the certain reports of Dr. Gardner.
3
>o y o u r e c a l l t h a t ?
4
A.
i recall that you attempted to introduce
5
in t he '36 a g r e e m e n t . W h i c h of the o t h e r d o c u m e n t s
6
/ou a t t e m p t e d to i n t r oduce, I do not recall.
7
q . would you agree with me that U.S. Gypsum s
8 local counsel while you were present resisted any,,
9 connection between U . S . Gypsum and Saranac during
10 that trial?
1 1
A . No
1 2
Q.
You would not agree with that?
1 3 A. No, I w o u l d not. If you would li k e to
1 4
show me a t r a n s c r i p t of the trial p r o c e e d i n g s anc
1 5
r e f r e s h my m e m o r y , I would be h a p p y to r e v i e w it,
1 6
but that's not my r e c o l l e c t i o n of the d i s c u s s i o n a
1 7 the trial.
1 5
q . W e l l , I don't have ranscript with me,
1 9 but I'll certainly discuss that with Morgan, Lewis &
20 Bockius counsel who were also counsel ai_ ^he
^
2 1 Lexington trial.
^
22
In addition to Judge Wilkins' notice
2 3 interrogatory, I believe Greenville followed up with
2 4 a special interrogatory inquiring as to wr. ere t n e
n Vo [ f t,
R o t i n i - a n d c d f L i O c i a t c i .,{ j n z . (OHi-caao, fjiiincii- (312; /C^-h-C/
7 1
1 documents that were produced had been found?
-
t
2
A. Yes.
3
Q. Is that a copy of chat special
4 interrogatory and U.S. Gypsum company's response?
5
A. Before we get to this, I feel co n s t r a i n e d
6 to point out since you're trying to create a clear 7 record, the q u e stion you raised to me about the
8 Lexington trial was did we dispute any connection
*"
t
9 with Saranac. I am d isputing your c h a r a c t e r i z a t i o n
10 of what the controversy was.
...
1 1 you certainly -- plaintiff's attorneys for
1 2 Lex i n g t o n certainly attempted to introduce the 1 3 m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t and other d o c u m e n t s in at
1 4 trial. But I think you need to refer to what the. 1 5 argument was as to the basis of United States G y p s u m
1 6 Company's objection and its argument.
..
1 7
q . Would you agree with me that during that
1 8 trial and indeed prior to that trial, U.S. Gypsum 19 did not acknowledge any past relationship with
20
S a r a n a c in the ' 3 0 s or the =0s?
.
2 1 A. Net witr. r e s p e c t to asbestos, and the
2 2 q u e s t i o n s that were posed were always related iO
2 3
a s b e s t o s . T h e q u e s t i o n y o u 're r a i s i n g is any
2 4 r e l a t i o n s h i p v;11 n S an a c w na t so ev
Hi offz,
ezffoi.znisz.iq a n J c f f j- a c c ia tz i, fin e .
aac, La'riLi^o
rj*2' 7S2-8CS7
72
1
ls b e st o s .
A
2
Q.
Okay. L e t 's get the que s t i o n straight.
3
W o u l d y o u a g r e e w i t h rr.e t h a t d u r i n g t h e
4
:rial of the L e x i n g t o n case, L e x i n g t o n ' s a t t o r n e y s
5
attempted to introduce a connection between U.S.
6
d y p s u m and S a r a n a c in r e g a r d to a s b e s t o s s t u d i e s ?
7
A.
The plaintiff's attorneys for L exington
8
attempted to introduce into evidence the m e m o r a n d u m
9
of a g r e e m e n t , and I seem to r e c a l l c e r t a i n o t her _
1 0
documents relating to the Sumner Simpson papers and
1 1
perhaps the entire Sumner Simpson file.
1 2
Q.
Which dealt with asbestos?
1 3
A.
Relating to asbestos.
1 4
Q.
And would you also agree with me that U.S.
1 5
G y p s u m ' s a t t o r n e y s at the trial of the L e x i n g t o n
1 6
c a s e w i t h y o u in a t t e n d a n c e did not acknov;ledge any
1 7
past relationship between U.S. Gypsum and Saranac m
1 8
regards to a s b estos?
1 9
A.
The legal objection raised that I reca_l
20
was one of a u t h e n t i c a t i o n of the d o c u m e n t s you were
2 1
attempting to introduce into evidence.
22
Q.
For whan other reason weald you agree tnao
2 3
U.S. Gypsum did not acknowledge any past
2 4
relationship between Sara na
U . S . G'
,, "
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< a R o i z n (jzzzj a n d
C.nica a o , ddCi-ncit 0
a T T i z o c i a t z i ,O r-
'312, 7S2-5
73
1
as a s b e s t o s ?
2
A.
That q u estion I can't respond to wit h o u t
3
referring to the transcript. I recall that the
4
b a s i s cf the o b j e c t i o n was one of a u t h e n t i c a t i o n of
5
t h e d e c urne nt s a n d it w a s l i m i t e d to t h a t i s s u e .
6
Q.
Now, let me re v i e w , b e c a u s e we k ind of get
7
o f f b a s e . On J a n u a r y 9, J u d g e W i l k i n s i s s u e d his
8
i n t e r r o g a t o r y w h i c h USG r e s p o n d e d to in e a r l y
*
9
F e b r u a r y . L e x i n g t o n , I b e l i e v e was t r i e d in e a r l y
1 O
A p r i l , is t h a t y o u r r e c o l l e c t i o n ?
1 1
A . Yes.
1 2
Q.
On April 23, .S. G y p s u m responded to the
1 3
s p e c i a l i n t e r r o g a t o r y w h i c n G r e e n v i l l e served on
1 4
U.S. G y p s u m a s k i n g a b o u t the s o u r c e of the d o c u m e n t s
1 5
it had p r o d u c e d , c o r r e c t ?
1 6
A . Ye s .
1 7
MR. SPEIGHTS: I'm going to ask that this
1 8
interrogatory, special interrogatory and U.S. Gypsum's
1 9
r e s p o n s e be m a r k e d c o l l e c t i v e l y as P l a i n t i f f ' s
20
E x h i b i t 13.
2 1
2 2
2 3
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked < P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x n i b i t No. i-, for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . ) '
2 4
3Y MR. SP E I G H T S :
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a n d c d -ftio c la tzi., {Jn c.
CZicaao, Otiir.cU e (312)7e2-SCS7
7 4
1 Q. D i d y o u c o o r d i n a t e t h i s r e s p o n s e , t h a ^ is,
2
to the special interrogatory?
3
A.
No, I d i d n ' t . I was a w a r e of it and I
4
r e v i e w e d it, but -- in the b r o a d sen s e , I
5
c o o r d i n a t e d it, b u t I d i d n ' t p r e p a r e i l..
6
Q.
Would you agree with me that this document
7
r e f l e c t s t h a t USG did not c o n d u c t a r e v i e w in d e t a i l
8
of the box found by Donna W o o d r u f f and b r o u g h t tc
9
the legal department until after.^Judge Wilkins'
_
1 0
o r d e r of J a n u a r y 9, 1 9 8 4 ?
-
1 1
A.
v t h i n k the only way I can respond to that
1 2
is by r e a d i n g th a t p o r t i o n of the r e s p o n s e .
The
1 3
order entered by this court was far oroader than
1 4
discovery previo usl y responded to by this defendant.
1 5
B e c a u s e of its b r e a d t h , t h i s d e f e n d a n t was r e q u i r e d
1 6
to s e e k to d e t e r m i n e t h e e x i s t e n c e of f i l e s n o t ..
1 7
p r e v i o u s l y known to exist and to searcn through many
1 8
files net p r e v i o u s l y reviewed. This e x plains the
1 9
p r o d u c t i o n of d o c u m e n t s h e r e i n w h i c n this d e f e n d a n t
20
believes not fall within plaintiff's previous
2 1
discovery requests.
2 2
The e x i s t e n c e cf a box c o n t a i n i n g one
23
f o l l o w i n g d o c u m e n t s 'was d e t e r m i n e d b y (a) D o n n a _ -
2 4
W o o d r u f f , U S G p a r a l e g a l or (b ; a p p r a >:i m a t e _ g
*
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and czr~li.i~czLa.tzi., Lfin
{2r.ic.azic, S^Lh-ncii % (312}76i-BOBr
75
1
J a n u a r y / F e b r u a r y , 1980. T h i s b o x (C) w a s c l e a r l y .
2
m a r k e d as p e r t a i n i n g s o l e l y to s i l i c o s i s in the USG
3
c o r p o r a t e f i l e s s t o r a g e f a c i l i t y l o c a t e d at 101
4
South Kacker Drive.
5
The file within which the documents were
6
l o c a t e d w a s (D) a b o x of i n s u r a n c e d e p a r t m e n t p a p e r s ,
7
specifically entitled' Miscellaneous Workman's
8
Compensation Data -- Silicosis Cases. ' The
9
c u s t o d i a n of t h e d o c u m e n t s at t h^e t i m e t h e y w e r e ^
1 0
l o c a t e d w a s (e) D o r o t h y L i t t l e j o h n , f i l e s .
1 1
Because this box was clearly labeled
1 2
' s i l i c o s i s ' t h e y w e r e n e v e r r e v e a l e d in d e t a i l for
i 3
in f o r m a t i o n relating to asbestos until this
1 4
d e f e n d a n t u n d e r t o o k a more e x t e n s i v e review of
1 5
d o c u m e n t s in o r d e r to c o m p l y as f u l l y as p o s s i b l e
1 6
with Judge Wilkins' order and therefore included..
1 7
t n i s b o x in its s e a r c h . 1,
'
1 8
Q.
And that s e a r c h of the box was made
1 9
s o m e t i m e in e a r l y 1984?
20
A . Ye s .
.
2 1
Q.
And t h a t b o o k s c o n t a i n e c some of Mr.
2 2
Kipp's papers?
23
A . T h e r e are p a o e r s in t h e r e w h i c h I r e c a l l r
24
a n d I w o u l d h a v e to r e f e r to t h e li
n g
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tz/^oi.zn(!re.rg a n d a d f i t o z L a t z i , j j n c . h.Uato, iCir.oU O (3 1 2 ) 782-3057
7 6
1
e i t h e r sent to or a u t h o r e d by Mr. Kip p . I w o u l d not
2 c h a r a c t e r i z e them as Mr. Kipp's papers.
3
Q. Would you read that parag r a p h for me?
4
A.
" Shortly before his d eath in 1980, C.P.
5 Kipp then manager insurance stated that USG was not
6 a member of the A s b e s t o s Cement Produ c e r s
7 A s s o c i a t i o n although he had attended a few m e e t i n g s
8 for his personal information only.
'
9
A s e a r c h w a s m a d e for t h e s e d o c u m e n t s in
1 0
February, 1984 by S.K. Torrey specifically for the
1 1
p u r p o s e of r e s p o n d i n g to the n o t i c e i n t e r r o g a t o r i e s
12 heretofore propounded."
1 3
Q.
Now, 1 want to refer b ack to -
1 4
A. E x c u s e me, but the q u e s t i o n you p o s e d ^o
1 5
me was were the Kipp papers -- the Kipp rile m
1 6
that bo x .
"
1 7
q.
I understand that was the previous
-
1 8
question .
1 9
A . All right.
20
Q.
And you r e s p o n d e d to it and the n I a s k e d
2 1 you t 0 read a n o t h e r s e c t i o n of this order w h ich
2 2
ref e r s to K i p p p a p e r s as well.
2 3
A . All right, fine.
-
2 4
r\
Now, r war. ^ ^v ra -- a . b a c k to Ex hi b it S ,,
\W/A
nthy,
ze.n.z.'Uj and c A .iociatzi.,
Cniccao, i u n c U e !312.'7C2-8CS7
7 7
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 0 2 1 2 2 23 2 4
^ i c h is t h e M a r c h 24 , 1 98 2 m e m o f r o m y o u to Mr.,
nell and ask you to read that paragraph.
A.
" F i n a l l y , as I s h o w e d y o u , t h e r e is
o r r e s p o n d e n c e in some old f i les m a i n t a i n e d by the
n s u r a n c e d e p a r t m e n t tha t Mr. K i p p in 1953 e m b a r k e d
pon a project to gather a r t icles c o n cerning
sbestosis ."
Q.
In a d d i t i o n to t h a t s p e c i a l i n t e r r o g a t o r y ,
believe Judge Wilkins issued another order after
.he L e x i n g t o n t r i a l in A p r i l of 19 8 4 . Do y o u r e c a l l
.ha t ? A. Q.
Yes. A n d t h a t is w h a t is s o m e t i m e s b e e n
e f e r r e d to as an e n c o m p a s s m e n t order?
A . Yes.
Q.
Is tha t a copy of t h a t o r d e r ?
.
A . Ye s . MR. SPEIGHTS:
' I w o u l d ask t h a t be m a r k e d as
E x h i b i t 14.
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t N c . * 14 , for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as or 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
Q
Let me s;
I can c h a r a c t e r ! 70 n iq
and.
CL.Uc.zc, O liinoU e (312)?'52-S0S7
, One.
1
o r d e r w i t h o u t r e a d i n g it and if y o u f e e l c o m p e l l e d
2
to read it, t h a t ' s fine.
3
Would you agree with me that Judge Wilkins
4
required -- strike that. Would you read paragraph 2
5
of that order, please?
6
A.
"The d e f e n d a n t s h a l l on cr b e f o r e M ay 14,
7
1984 file their final responses to the p l a i n t i f f ' s
8
request to produce docu m e n t s together with a
9
s t a t e m e n t v e r i f i e d b y t h e p a r t i e^s s p e c i f i c a l l y
_
1 0
s e t t i n g f o r t h the e n c o m p a s s m e n t of the s e a r c h , the
1 1
p e r s o n or p e r s o n s w h o p a r t i c i p a t e d in the s e a r c h and
1 2
the i d e n t i f i c a t i o n of all d o c u m e n t s for w h i c h they
1 3
claim privilege."
1 4
Q.
In r e s p o n s e to that, did you p e r s o n a l l y
1 5
file an a f f i d a v i t in c o m p l i a n c e w i t h
o- strike
1 6
that .
-
1 7
In res p o n s e to J u d g e Wilkins' order in-or
1 8
a r o u n d A p r i l 25, 1984 m a r k e d as p x h i b i ^ 14, die y o u
1 9
re and file an a f f i d a v i t ?
2 0
A . Yes.
2 1
Q
Is t h a t a c e p y cf t h e a f f i d a v i t ?
2 2
A .
In part.
2 3
MR . SPEIGHTS: Let's co off the record
2 4
(W HEREUPON', d i s c u s s i o n w a s h a d
OrVoffi,
and cd^iicciaU i, {Jnc.
d n i z a a c , J j d m o i t (312( 782-8j 8 y
79
1
off the record.)
2
3Y MR. S P E I G H T S :
3
Q.
Is that a c o p y of the a f f i d a v i t you f i l e d
4
in r e s p o n s e to J u d g e W i l k i n s ' o r d e r ?
5
A . Yes.
6
MR. S P E I G H T S : I ask tha t be m a r k e d as
7
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 15.
8
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
9
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s^i t i o n E x h i b i t No ,^ 15,
1 0
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of ,'-29-86.)
1 1 BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
1 2
Q.
I w o u l d a s k y o u to r e a d p a r a g r a p h 9.
1 3
A.
"At p r e s e n t , no o t h e r d o c u m e n t s h a v e beer,
1 4
loca t e d responsive to p l a i n t i f f ' s request to pr o d u c e
1 5
d a t e d J a n u a r y 13, 1983 as q u a l i r i e d by o u t s t a n d i n g
1 6
o b j e c t i o n s and e x c l u d i n g p r i v i l e g e d d o c u m e n t s , if.
1 7
any, and as a l r e a d y d i s c l o s e d in U n i t e d S t a t e s -
1 8
G y p s u m C o m p a n y ' s s u p p l e m e n t a l r e s p o n s e s or
1 9
p reviously produced to p l ai n tif f' s counsel witrout
20
f o r m a l s u p p l e m e n t a t i o n e t h e r t h a n the a t t a c h e d wh.icn
2 1 was 1 o c a t e d r e c e n t l y . 1!
2 2
Q.
Now,
at rha i_
X L.
ime
had
you,
by that
I me a r.
2 3 you, u .s G y p s u m , pro due e d 0 it h er P l a i n t i f f ' s
'
2 4 Exhi bit 2 , the 3 ro wn ~ o 0 i rutt letter, P l a i ntiff
W/A&
<w/*,
d^om nije.'U j a n d c d J - lto c L n tz t, Cf-.uaao, i u r . o i i .'312.' 7'52-::^
80
1
E x h i b i t 3, t h e f i r s t p r o g r e s s r e p o r t , or P l a i n t i f f s
2
E x h i b i t 5, t h e J e r s e y C i t y s t u d y of Dr. G a r d n e r ?
3
A.
No .
4
Q.
At t h a t t i m e , did y ou l i s t or at any t i m e
5
b e f o r e had you l i s t e d any of t h ose three d o c u m e n t s
6
as being p r i v i l e g e d ?
7
A . No .
8
Q.
At t h a t t i m e , had you p r o v i d e d a c o p y of
9
t h e 1943 o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n w h i c^h we h a v e p r e v i o u s l y
1 0
marked?
1 1
A . No .
1 2
Q.
W h a t is t h e d a t e of t h a t a f f i d a v i t , p l e a s e ,
1 3
Miss Tor rey?
1 4
A.
May 25th, 1984.
'
1 5
q . i believe within several weeks, that the
1 6
boxes which vou now believe Ms. Woodruff originally
1 7
l o c a t e d in 1980 we r e l o c a t e d by an a t t o r n e y w o r k i n g
1 8
under you at the time?
1 9
A.
G a r y Smit h , an a t t o r n e y in the d e p a r t m e n t ,
20
found in the w a r e h o u s e s o m e w h e r e in the p e r i o d June
rt o
2 1
15th
June 20th, '84 t h r e e b o x e s w h i c h we now A
22
*2 ]_0 V a b a s e d u o o n the r e c e n t l y - f o u n d Don n a W o o d r u f
2 3 m e m o zo h a v e seen f o u n d by her in 1980.
_ J r
24
I
Q.
Anc in t h o s e t h r e e b o x e s , among o u n e r ,,
UW
i ^\\ 'oif-s., <z^oi.&nlrz.%} and zdfiiccLaizi, dJnc.
C n ic a a o , L im e it (3 1 2J 7S2-S0S7
8 1
1
things, were l o c a t e d p l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t s 6 and 7,
A
2
that is, the s u m m a r y of the J e r s e y City report and
3
the letter forwarding the summary and the report to
4
the law firm?
5
A.
I have been told that.
6
q.
I'm going to show you another document
7
dated S e p t e m b e r 16, 1936 and ask w h e t h e r that was
8
also l o c a t e d in the' t h r e e b o x e s ?
9
A.
I don't know from personal knowledge. I
1 0
b e l i e v e t h a t t h a t ' s w h e r e is it c a m e from. I h a v e
1 1 been told that, but I don't know.
1 2
Q.
Let me give you a series of five documents
1 3
and a s k if it is y o u r u n d e r s t a n d i n g t h a t t h o s e f i v e
1 4
documents were --
-
1 5
A.
I think I have to first point out that-
1 6
when the boxes were discovered, once Gary had
_
1 7
pointed out to me the e x i s t e n c e of the J e r s e y City
1 8
s t u d y and I c o n f i r m e d that it was the J e r s e y City
1 9
study, I did not tnorougnly review the contents of
20
the box.
2 1
I p r e t t y m u c h s t o p p e d at that point. se
2 2
al! v c c n ' t have p e r s o n a l k n o w l e d g e or t:ieir
2 3 c o n t e n t s . I nave b e e n told t r.a t t h e r e was some
2 4
o r ^ e s o n d e n c e in tr.ese o o x e -0 - - - -i- c to some sort
WM
oLtz.t c^ozzn&s.'ia and c^df-ttacLatzi. , One.
Cki-.aao, DiLr.oii. 6 '2'2] 7^2-zZ"
82
1 >f a l a w s u i t t h a t d i d n ' t d i r e c t l y i n v o l v e t h e . A.
2
:ompany.
3
I a s s u m e t h a t t h e s e are thos- and it c a m e
4
jut of the boxes, but I don't know that p erson a l l y .
5
MR. SPEIGHTS: I'm going to have them m a r k e d
6
and if we can not w o r k out a s t i p u l a t i o n l a t e r , j 11
7
indepen dentl y deal with the situation. But since I
8
have shown them to you, I want to mark them for the
9
record and I ask they be m a r k e d . a s follows:
_
1 0
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 16 is a l e t t e r f r o m
1 1
3.C. S c h a r w a t h to H.R . B a r r e t t . I t ' s n o t e d a^ L.he
1 2
top, "Copy, United States Gyps u m Company" dated
1 3
S e p t e m b e r 16, 1937.
1 4
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
1 5
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i o i u No. 16,
1 6
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 -29 -8 6 .,.)
1 7
MR. S P E I G H T S : E x h i b i t 17, a letter from
-
1 8
A s s i s t a n t To P r e s i d e n t to J.A. S c h a r w a t h on U.S.
1 9
G y p s u m C o m p a n y l e t t e r h e a d d a t e d S e p t e m b e r 29, 1937.
2 0
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
2 1
Plaintiff's Deposition Exhibit N o . *17,
2 2
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as or 7 - 2 9 - 8 o . >
2 3
m r . S P E I G H T S : E x h i b i t 18, a l e t t e r r r c m J . S . '
2 4
Offutt, Assistant to Pre s i d e n t , to Scott, M ackers &
a v o ifc ,
cJ ^ o te.n C 'S .'Uj Ch.uzcc,
a n d c --f n o c i a U i ,O n e .
e ?3i2) 7c2-?r?7
8 3
1 Falk which we have been referring to as the Keck law 2 firm, on U.S. Gyp s u m Company letterhead dated
3 September 29, 1937.
4
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
5 Plaintiff's Deposition Exhibit No. 18,
6
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . ,
7
MR. S P E I G H T S : E x h i b i t 19 is a l e t t e r f r o m J o h n
8
J. C u n e o C u n e o of J e r s e y City, to t h e K e c k l a w f i r m
9 dated October 8 , 1937 .
v,
.
1 0
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
1 1
P l a i n t i f f 's D e p o s i t i o n Exhibit No. 19 f
1 2
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as of 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
1 3
MR. S P E G I H T S : E x h i b i t 20 is a l e t t e r f r o m an
1 4
u n i d e n t i f i e d s o u r c e u n l e s s o t h e r w i s e iden.-j._ied in
1 5
m h e b o d y to J o h n J. C u n e o d a t e d O c t o b e r 2 8 , 1 9 3 7'.
1 6
(WHEREUPON, said document was marked
1 7
P l a i n t i f f ' s D e p o s i t i o n E x h i b i t No.- 20
1 8
for i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , as or 7 - 2 9 - 8 6 . )
1 9
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
2 0
Q. Would you agree with me from reacinc l.he se
2 1 documents that they report an allegation than
2 2 someone who was a b o o k k e e p e r at the Jersey City
23
olar.t sustained ash :-s*:osis?
2 4
I a id n ' ea
_ " W oil.
^ IV o ij'Z ,
c z f f o z z n i z 'i j
cm d . c.A j i . z o c . i o . t z i , J n c . ( 31 2.'
84
1
it be e a s i e r if I j u s t read t h i s p a r a g r a p h ?
2
Q.
Yes, just do tha
3
A.
"For my dad, ask if you w o u l d care to h e l p
4
him w i t h a rev i e w of the G y p s u m C o m p a n y ' s e x p e r i e n c e
5
w ith s i l i c o s i s or a s b e s t o s i s . R e c a l l that you had
6
told me about several cases that the company had and
7
he now has a suit against him by a former assi s t a n t
8
b o o k k e e p e r of the old N a t i o n a l A s b e s t o s C o m p a n y
9
whose desk at least more than 2 0 0 feet away from any
1 0
o t h e r m a c h i n e r y as well as b e i n g s e g r e g a t e d in the
1 1
office from the factory."
1 2
MR. SPEIGHTS: Let me take a break just a
1 3
m i n u t e . I b e l i e v e t h a t ' s going to be all.
1 4
(WHEREUPON, a recess was had.)
1 5
BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
1 6
C.
M i s s T o r r e y , I u n d e r s t a n d t h a t on Aug us;
1 7
20, 1984, you ceas e d any i n v o l v e m e n t with the
1 8
d e f e n s e of a s b e s t o s i s , e i t h e r p e r s o n a l i n j u r y or
1 9
property damage?
2 0
A . Yes.
2 1
Q.
And p r i o r to t h a t d a t e , you did no
22
2 3
Wilkins?
2 4
here was no s u p p l m e n t a
85
1 m o d i f i c a t i o n of the a f f i d a v i t , that s c o r r e c t .
2
Q.
And tc your k n o w l e d g e , there was no
3
s u p p l e m e n t a t i o n or m o d i f i c a t i o n to the r e s p o n s e s to
4
discovery, Judge Wilkins' discovery between the time
5
y o u f i l e d t h o s e in the s p r i n g of '84 until August 2 ( ,
6
1 9 84 ?
7
A.
T h ere was none filed, no.
8
MR. SPEIGHTS: Thank you. Tnat's all I have.
9
MR. CALE: I have a few questions.
.
1 0
EXAMINATION
1 1
BY MR. CALE:
1 2
q . Ms. T o r r e y , I w o u l d as k yo u a g a i n to look
1 3
at the series of d o c u m e n t s that c o u n s e l has marked
1 4
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 16 t h r o u g h P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h ib it
1 5
20 and d i r e c t y o u r a t t e n t i o n to the d o c u m e n
1 6
P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 20 w h i c h I b e l i e v e is t h e
. -
1 7
r e s p o n s e of s o m e o n e to Mr. J o h n J . Cuneo, t h e
-
1 8
a t t o r n e y for Mr. S c h a r w s u h r e p l y i n g to his letter of
1 9
O c t o b e r 8tn w h i c h was m a r k e d as P l a i n t i f f ' s Exh ib it
2 0 1 9 , and I would ask you if you would read into th.e
2 1 record jus t the fir st sentence of t h e beg inning *
2 2 p a rag raDh on page 2 of that le tier?
23
A . 11W ^ \~l2,V6 not had occ a s i c r. t c de fend an y
2 4 case broucn
soestcsi
r ' e ci one .*o
WMi
Q V o lfz, r
ILL, a n d z d f i i o c L a t z i ,jJ n c
86
1
r e c o g n i z e d dise a s e s resulting from the b r e a c h i n g of
2
dangerous dust, the other being silicosis.
3
Q . Thank you.
4
MR. S P E I G H T S : C o u l d I ask the d a t e of t h a t ?
5
BY MR. CALE:
6
Q.
Also on this e x hibit, are there i n i t i a l s
7
of the author of that letter and the typist?
8
A.
Ye s .
'
9
Q.
And what are those initials?
.
1 0
A. C M P a n d t h e t y p i s t ' s i n i t i a l s a r e IC. ..
1 1
Q. A n d is the l e t t e r to w h i c h t h a t is a
1 2
r e s p o n s e P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 19 a d d r e s s e d to C h a r l e s
1 3
M. P r i c e w h o s e i n i t i a l s are C M P ?
1 4
A . Yes .
v
1 5
MR. SPEIGHTS: W o u l d you mind her stating the
1 6
date of that letter b e f o r e you move to ano t h e r
1 7
subject?
'
1 8
BY M R . CALE :
1 9
Q.
C o u l d y o u t e l l us t h e d a t e or t n a t l e t t e r ,
20
please, Exhibit 20?
2 1
A.
O c t o b e r 28, 1937.
2 2
Q . To your k n o w l e d g e , by the way, W a S John J .
2 3 Cun e o of 9 2 1 B e r g e n A v e n u e , Jer sey City, N e w J e r s e -.-
24
an att o rrley w o r k i n g for U r.ir e a S o a r e s Gy c s u m Cor.pjr. y ?
\W?/a
n vo C fi,
cJ^oi.tzn.ljcxc] cu tA (z A j-iio c ia -tz t,{ J n z . CF-.Uaac, jJttir.cU C (312) 7E2-S0S7
7
1
A . I'm not aware that he was.
2
Q.
I now show you Plaintiff's Exhibit 5 which
3
we have r e f e r r e d to as the J e r s e y Ci t y s t u d y and I
4
believe plaintiff's counsel had you read into tie
5
r e c o r d a p a r a g r a p h a p p e a r i n g on page 4 w h i c h reads
6
as follows: "The a u t h o r s of the report c o n c l u d e
7
t h a t it is not p o s s i b l e f r o m t h e i r f i n d i n g s to
8
e s t a b l i s h the m a x i m u m safe c o n c e n t r a t i o n of a s b e s t o s
9
d u s t in the air."
.
1 O
F o l l o w i n g t h a t p a r a g r a p h , t h e r e is a n o t h e r
1 1
p a r a g r a p h in the report on page 5 and I would ask
1 2
t h a t you read the f i r s t full p a r a g r a p h on page 5 of
1 3
that report.
1 4
A.
" W h i l e a s b e s t o s i s may be a m i l d e r type of
1 5
:i b r o s i s t h a n is s i l i c o s i s , it d o e s n o t a p p e a r f r o m
1 6
the studies mentioned above that a standard for a
1 7
s a f e c o n c e n t r a t i o n of a s b e s t o s d u s t w o u l d pe rm it -a
1 8
g re aoer concentration than the value already given
1 9
for free s i l i c a du s t . It is q u i t e p o s s i b l e t h a t t h e
2 O
safe limit m i g h t be e ven lower for a s b e s t o s than for
2 1
; i
For p r e s e n t , it w o u l d s e e m b
.o a t e m e
2 3
tc k e e n the c o n c e n t r a t i ; n cf a s b e s t o s
le s s on e*r.
2 4
c h a n 5 m i l l i o n o a r t i c l e s ner c u b i c c ot or a i
^ IV c L je.,
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88
1
counted by light field examination."
2
Q.
Counsel also had asked about the Lexington
3
t r i a l and p o s i t i o n of the c o m p a n y at that t r i a l with
4
respect to its r e l a t i o n s h i p with Saranac Lake
5
Laboratory?
6
A . Yes.
7
Q. At t he t i m e of the L e x i n g t o n t r i a l , ha d a
8
copy of the 1949 final report of the a s b e s t o s
9
s t u d i e s done at S a r a n a c L a k e been. i d e n t i t i e d and _
1 0
provi d e d to p l a i n t i f f ' s counsel?
1 1
A . Yes.
1 2
Q.
And in w h a t case was t h a t final r e p o r t
1 3
provided?
1 4
A.
Greenville.
'
1 5
Q. A n d t h a t w a s p r i o r to the t r i a l of the
16 Lexington case?
1 7
A.
Ye s .
'
1 8
Q.
in c o n n e c t i o n w i t h t h e q u e s t i o n s abouv. i.he
1 9
fin d i n g of c e r t a i n of the d o c u m e n t s that have been
20
i d e n t i f i e d h e r e by D o n n a W o o d r u f f in 1980, w ere you
2 1
at tha t tim e in the p r o c e s s of r e s p o n d i n g to any
2 2
d i s c o v e r y r e q u e s t s in p r o p e r t y d a m a g e l i t i g a t i o n ?
2 3
A.
No.
. "
2 4
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1
r e q u i r e d to be p r o d u c e d p u r s u a n t to any d i s c o v e r y
2
re q u e s t s in p r o p e r t y dama g e l i t i g a t i o n ?
3
A . No .
4
Q.
R e f e r r i n g now to P l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t 9
5
w h i c h is y o u r m e m o r a n d u m to Mr. S n e l l d i s c u s s i n g
6
c e r t a i n o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n s of the c o m p a n y , I w o u l d
7
d i r e c t your a t t e n t i o n to the s e c o n d page of that
8
m e m o r a n d u m and ask you to read into the record the
9
second full paragraph?
v,
.
1 O
A.
"T h e s e c o n d b u l l e t i n w h i c h has s u r f a c e d is
1 1
a n o t h e r o p e r a t i n g b u l l e t i n w h i c h is l a b e l e d
1 2
h a z a r d o u s c h e m i c a l u s e d in p a i n t m a n u f a c t u r e . 1^ is
1 3
Nc . 602 and was p r o m u l g a t e d on 8-11-48. The
1 4
historical file copy carries the notation 'expired'
15 by the section which refers to asbestos."
1 6
Q.
Are you famil ia r with that bulle tin?
.
1 7
A . Yes, I am.
1 8
Q.
Can you t ell u s in e s s e n c e what it s t a t e s ?
1 9
A . W i t h r e s p e c t t 0 a s b e s t o s , it on t h e
2 O le f th and c o l u m n s f a t e s the t e r m a sbe s tos and in the
2 1 n e X _ c o l u m n , p u r p crts to di s c u s s the dise ase
2 2
re sul ring and I b el leve con r a i n s lang urge to the
23
a f f DC t of p r o l o n g ed e x p o s ur e to t r e a t h ina a s b e s r o s -
2 4 a u c.*- can cau s e a d i s a b l i n g long rondi rien Kn o w n a ~
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a n d C ^ iivcL a tzi, jjn c .
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90
1
asbe stos is .
2
Q.
Was that document provided v oluntarily by
3
the c o m p a n y in res p o n s e to a d i s c o v e r y request
4
s e r v e d in a s b e s t o s p r o p e r t y d a m a g e l i t i g a t i o n ?
5
A . Yes.
6
Q.
And can you tell us a p p r o x i m a t e l y when
7
that d o c u m e n t was fir s t p r o d u c e d to any p l a i n t i f f in
8
the property damage asbestos litigation?
9
A.
June, 1983.
,
..
1 O
Q.
And do you k n o w in w h i c h case and to w h i c h
1 1
plaintiff's counsel that document was produced?
1 2
A.
I b e l i e v e it was G r e e n v i l l e L e x i n g t o n , bur
1 3
we could check the records.
1 4
W h o w o u l d c o u n s e l h a v e b e e n in t h a t case
1 5
for the plaintiff?
1 6
A.
Mr. Speight
1 7
Q.
And was that prior to udge Wilkins
1 8
entering his notice interrogatory?
1 9
A
Yes
20
Q.
And by approximately how many montos?
2 1
A
Six, seven.
2 2
Q
C o u n s e l r e f e r r e d to the c o c u m e n
2 3 appeared in the A s b e s t o s L 't i c a t i c n Reoor
2 4
believe represents
n
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9 1
1
late '70s, the 1936 m e m o r a n d u m a g r e e m e n t and three
2
p r o g r e s s reports were included and reported on. Do
3
you recall the questions regarding that subject?
4
A . Yes.
5
Q.
Do you recall the d a tes of those p r o g r e s s
6
r e p o r t s that were r e p o r t e d in the A s b e s t o s
7
L i t i g a t i o n Reporter at the time the 1936 m e m o r a n d u m
8
agreement was published?
-
9
A.
I believe they were all 1937.
1 0
Q.
To your knowledge, was the 1943 m onograph
1 1 t h a t c o u n s e l has r e f e r r e d to r e p o r t e d in the
1 2
A s b e s t o s L i t i g a t i o n R e p o r t e r as one of t h ose
1 3
progress reports?
1 4
A.
As one of the p r o g r e s s r e p o r t s , no.
1 5
Q. To y o u r k n o w l e d g e , h a s a c o p y of t h e 1943
1 6
m o n o g r a p h ever been l o c a t e d in any U n i t e d S t a t e s
1 7
Gyosum company file?
1 8
A.
I nave never seen the 1943 monograph. I
1 9
h a v e n e v e r b e e n tol d t h a t it was f o u n d in any U n i t e d
2 0
States Gypsum Company file. I certainly never found
2 1
2 2
Q . R e fe r r ing to the 1936 agre emeno, does that
2 3 a g r e e m e n t i n d i c a t e ho w the 3.0 rGtrTiSn'u. came into bei n-g ?
2 4
A . Weil , ^ h b 50 coni p a r a g r a p h states, an
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9 2
1
r e a d i n g , "The g e n e r a l n a t u r e of t h e s e e x p e r i m e n t s
2
and the cost t h e r e o f were e x p l a i n e d at a m e e t i n g of
3
c e r t a i n b r a k e l i n i n g m a n u f a c t u r e r s h e l d in N e w Y o r k
4
C i t y on N o v e m b e r 19, 1936."
5
Q.
Has United States G y p s u m Company to your
6
knowledge ever manufactured brake linings?
7
A . No .
8
Q.
And does the memorandum agreement indicate
9
the period of time that the e x p e r i m e n t s are to be ^
1 0
u n d e r w r i t t e n by the s i g n a t o r i e s to that agreem e n t ?
1 1
A.
The next p a r a g r a p h states "for a p eriod of
1 2
three years."
1 3
Q.
And the d a t e of the a g r e e m e n t is w h a t ?
1 4
A.
N o v e m b e r 20, 19 3 6 .
-
1 5
Q.
And three years from that date would be
1 6
w h a t ?
-
1 7
A . N o v e m b e r 2 0, 1 9 3 9 .
1 8
MR . CALE: Could we excuse ourselve s ? I only
1 9
have one m o r e q u e s t i o n . I jus t w a n t to m a k e sure
20
that we agr e e to get into it.
2 1
i-, S P E I G H Y S : Y 0 u w a n t to t a l k to h e r ?
J"
2 2
MR . CALE: I just w a n t to h e r --
2 3
MR . S P E I G H T S : I' m a b o u t as l i b e r a l . a s a n y b c c
2 4
I k n O W f d j : j. j u s *! oc r. >-- ~ h i o k i n ' s o r c rc.V 0 V*3 --
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9 3 1
1
tfith the witness while you have got her under
2
examination. I can't physically stop you.
3
MR. CALE: Oh, I know. Okay. Let's just go
4 off the record for a minute.
5
MR. SPEIGHTS: Sure.
6
(WHEREUPON, discussion was had
7
off the record. )
6
BY MR. CALE:
"
S
Q.
Ms. Torrey, counsel has e s t ablished that
1 0
at the time the answers were filed to Judge Wilkins'
1 1
notice interrogatory, the 1934 operating bulletin
1 2
with respect to dusty conditions was not identified
1 3
in the list of d o c u m e n t s p r o v i d e d .
1 4
A . Ye s .
-
1 5
Q. Can you tell us why that was not included
1 6 as best you can recall?
1 7
A. I d i d n ' t r e a l i z e at t h e t i m e I w a s
-
1 8
preparing the responses that that bulletin existed.
1 9 I had a paralegal assisting me and I asked that she
20 secure all the b u l l e t i n s on the x-ray program, ana I
2 1 s p e c i f i c a l l y recall asking her to ma.-ce sure tr.at we
22 had them all and to verity that we hac them ail anc
2 3 she informed me that we had them all and we proauc e-c
24
cnem .
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9 4
1
Looking at the '43 b u l l e t i n now, I see it
A
2
bears a different bulletin number and I can
3
u n d e r s t a n d w h y it m a y not have b e e n g i v e n to her
4
when she asked for all of the x-ray bulletins.
5
T h e r e was no i n t e n t on o u r p a r t n o t tc p r o d u c e it.
6
I s i m p l y had f o r g o t t e n about the memo. If I had
7
known, I would have produced them irrespective of
8
the d ate .
-
9
Q.
Am 1 c o r r e c t that as of the date of the
1 0
a n s w e r s to the notice i n t e r r o g a t o r y , u n i t e d St a t e s
1 1
Gyosum had already some seven months before provided
1 2
a d o c u m e n t showing notice certain hazards of
1 3
a s b e s t o s as e a r l y as I 9 4 9?
14 ' Yes, and the '54 m e m o r a n d u m also refer re d
1 5
to in that m e m o r a n d u m was p r o d u c e d in r e s p o n s e as to
1 6
the notice interrogatory.
_
1 7
Q.
Turning to 1983 when I believe you
.
1 8
t e s t i f i e d t h a t at l e a s t the d o c u m e n t s - a r m e d as
1 9
p l a i n t i f f ' s E x h i b i t s 3 -- e x c u s e me -- 2, 3 and 5
20
w h i c h are the l e t t e r from Mr. B r o w n to Mr. O f f u t t ,
2 1
-he first procress report and the Jersey City s -uoy ,
2 2
that they were r e t u r n e d to the Kec k firm, co you
2 3
r e c a l l tr. at?
'
2 4
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, Jnc.
9 5
1
Q. And could you tell us why they were
2 ref e r r e d to the Ke c k firm?
3
A. I was requested by Mr. Snell to have them
4 returned because they were Keck documents. They
5 were not documents of United States Gypsum Company
6
and he felt they belonged with the law firm.
7
Q. And I think you also testified that there
8 v;a s no inventory pr e p a r e d of those documents when
9 they were returned to the Keck firm nor any
10 transmittal letter nor any receipt of which you are
1 1 aware, is that correct?
1 2
A . Tha t 's correct.
1 3
c . And c an you tell us why no docu m e n t s of
14 that type were prepared?
,,
1 5
A. B ecause these were law firm d o c u m e n t s .
1 6 being returned to the law firm as their documents, I
1 7 saw no need to retain an inventory of what of theirs
1 8 I had had p r e v i o u s l y in my p o ssession. No
1 9 transmittal letter was prep-ared b e c a u s e we
i
i
2 0 frecuently dealt with the firm on a telepnone basis
2 1 and that was cone in this instance. They knew :o *
22
expect it.
2 3
I did not ask that a receipt be prepared ,,
2 4 since the d o c u m e n t s were being nano carries. r r.e y
dnica.Qo, O - h n c i i . (2 72) 722-805?
ijr.c.
96
1
k n e w they were coming. T h e r e was no reason to
2
s u g g e s t t h e y w e r e n ' t g o i n g to m a k e it t h e r e and
3
because they were their documents, I didn't need a
4
receipt for them.
5
Q.
During the period that you were
6
r e s p o n s i b l e for or c o o r d i n a t i n g the r e s p o n s e s to
7
d i s c o v e r y r e g u e s t s in the p r o p e r t y d a m a g e a s b e s t o s
8
l i t i g a t i o n , were all of the a n s w e r s filed by U n i t e d
9
S t a t e s G y p s u m C o m p a n y f i l e d in g o od f a i t h and in _
1 0
c o n f o r m i t y w ith the legal j u d g m e n t of the c o u n s e l
1 1
a n s w e r i n g t h e m as t h e y i n t e r p r e t e d the r e q u e s t b e i n g
12 made?
1 3
A . Yes.
1 4
Q.
And finally, with r e s p e c t to your
1 5
a f f i d a v i t in res p o n s e to the c o u r t ' s e n c c m p a s s m e n t
1 6
i n t e r r o g a t o r y is t h a t a t r u t h f u l a f f i d a v i t ?
,,
1 7
A . Yes.
1 8
MR. CALE: I have no f u r t h e r q u e s t i o n s .
1 9
EXAMINATION (Resumed.)
2 0
E Y MR. SPEIGHTS:
2 1
0 . M s . To r re y , in r,e r rog atory 77 in the
*
2 2
eenville cas a and in the Le x ington case
2 3
a t e d "Did y o ci re ct to be oe rformed, spo n sc r
2 4
nance or re crb*V^ he res ult s of any stuii c Q *** y
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1 t e s t s p e r f o r m e d by the S a r a n a c L a k e L a b o r a t o r y or
2
the Trudeau Foundation relating to asbestos exposure
3
and its e f f e c t on h u m a n life, and the answer was "None
4
of w h i c h t h i s d e f e n d a n t is c u r r e n t l y a w a r e . "
5
My u n d e r s t a n d i n g is one r e a s o n y o u did not
6
reveal the Brown to Offutt letter and the first
7
pro g r e s s report was based upon Mr. Snell's judgment
8
t h a t t h e y did not h a v e to be p r o d u c e d . Is t h a t
9
cor rect?
1 0
A.
As I h a v e s t a t e d i4u- / y e s .
i 1
Q.
In a d d i t i o n to t h a 4- r U n i t ed S t a t e s G y p s um
1 2
the p o s i t i o n th a t th e y did not have to reveal
1 3
such d o c u m e n t s b e c a u s e t h e y r e f e r r e d to animal
1 4
s t u dies and the i n t e r r o g a t o r y referred to asbestos
1 5
e x p o s u r e and its effect on human life.
1 6
A . That was a p o s i t i o n t a k e n at t he time fha
1 7
answer was d r a f t e d . That was one of the p o s i t i o n s ,
1 8
yes.
1 9
Q . Is t h a t one of the p o s i t i o n s U n i t e d S t a t e s
20
G y p s u m to o k in good f a i t h ?
2 1
A . Yes .
A
2 2
Q . You would a g ree with me , Ms . Terr e y , rhat
2 3
S a r a n a c was not t e s t ing a n i m a l s t c see *" n Ci ut +- ~ *- c ->
2 4
on a n i m a l s , t h a t is, we w e r e n ' "C u.r y i n g ~ Q S w* w *"*^
U t 'oCf*,
and Cfii-O cia tzi, One.
dfiicciao, D l t i n o i i 9 (312: 7c2-Sj B 7
9 8
1
rat p o p u l a t i o n of the w o r l d , w ere we?
2
A.
1 don't know, Mr. Speights. I have stated
3
w h a t the p o s i t i o n of the c o m p a n y was in 1983. In
4
the i n t e r v e n i n g years, it has b e e n m a d e c l e a r tha .
5
q u o t e u n q u o t e s e m a n t i c d i f f e r e n c e s w o u l d no longer
6
be tolerated.
7
I b e l i e v e t h a t q u e s t i o n and t h a t a n s w e r in
8
part falls into what has now been termed s e m a n t i c
9
d i f f e r e n c e s . T h e r e is n o t h i n g nu? re I c a n s t a t e on
1 0
the subject.
-
1 1
Q.
You would agree with me that we were
1 2
t e s t i n g rats to d e t e r m i n e u l t i m a t e l y the e f f e c t s of
1 3
a s b e s t o s on h u m a n s ?
1 4
A.
I believe I previously testified that I
1 5
k n e w it was a ra t s t u d y or g u i n e a pigs or some '
1 6
a n i m a l and t h a 4U- at l e a s t in p a r t , one of the r e a s o n s
1 7
for t h e s t u d y Wc s to d e t e r m i n e if t h e e f f e c t w a s - o n e
1 8
of a c h e m i c a l p r o p e r t y or a p h y s i c a l p r o p e r t y .
1 9
Q.
B e c a u s e of our c o n c e r n as to wha t it m i g h t
20
do to human beings?
-
2 1
A.
T h a t w o u l d ha v e to be the next step.
~
22
Q .
Ms. Tor re y , I t h i n k v o u have t e s t i f i e d
2 3
u p o n 0 X a !u 1 u a - i o n by M r . 2 a 1 e t h a t you p r o v i d e d the
2 4
19 4 8 b u l l e t i n as ear iy as 13 8 3 ?
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9 9
1
A . Yes.
2
Q.
And U.S. G y p s u m in fact took the p o s i t i o n
3
with Judge Wilkins that 1948 was the earliest date
4
d o c u m e n t e d d a t e u pon w h i c h USG had not'.ce of the
5
h e a l t h e f f e c t s of a s b e s t o s ?
6
A.
Based upon the information I had available
7
to me and which I recalled at the time, that was the
8
ear l i e s t date we could verify from company sources
9
as I have d e f i n e d c o m p a n y s o urces.
_
1 0
Q.
But the 1943 document discusses asbestos?
1 1
A . Y e s , it d o e s .
1 2
Q.
The 1943 document also discusses Saranac,
1 3
do e s n ' t it?
1 4
A. I b e l i e v e it d o e s .
1 5
Q. A n d t h e 19 4 8 d o c u m e n t nor t h e 1954
1 6
document discuss Saranac, do they?
,
1 7
A.
Wel l , the '43 d o c u m e n t t a l k s a b o u t s e n d i n g
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p r e e m o l o y m e n t p h y s i c a l i n f o r m a t i o n to S a r a n a c for
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e v a l u a t i o n . T h a t ' s a d i f f e r e n t aspect, of S a r a n a c
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t h a n the '36 a g r e e m e n t on a n i m a l s t u d i e s .
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Q.
The 1943 d o c u m e n t at least d ocuments thit
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U.S . G y p s u m -was u s i n g S a r a n a c to r e v i e w its x - r a y s ?
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A . May I see it?
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The '43 b u l l e t i n c o n t a i n s the s t a t e m e n t ,
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" S u c h a m e d i c a l e x a m i n a t i o n , " w h i c h is r e f e r r i n g to
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preemployment physicals, "shall include the taking
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of chest x-rays and i n t e r p r e t a t i o n by Saranac
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L a b o r a t o r i e s as set f o r t h in b u l l e t i n 4-5," w hich,
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b u l l e t i n I believe I testified we could not then
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find. F r a n k l y , I d o n ' t k n o w if it's e v e r b e e n found.
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BY MR. SPEIGHTS:
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And one of the reasons that you had sent
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or u.S. G y p s u m C o m p a n y would send x - r a y s to Saranac
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was to see if the p e r s o n had a p a s t e x p o s u r e to
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asoestos, correct?
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A . Ihat' s a question?
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Q Yes. 'Wasn't that one of the reasons? '
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MR . CALE : I don't think that' s a full question.
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Q . Wasn't he reason at least one of the
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g x - r a y s to S a r a n a c -- strike t*at.
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Wasn't one of the c ir cumstances w m c n
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x - r a y s w o u l d be s e n d to S a r a n a c , a s i t u a t i o n w h e r e .c
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oe r so n wa s hired c r o o t a n r i a l l v would o e n ir e a w i
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MR. CALE: Object to that question. It's a
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Q. Doesn't that b u l l e t i n require that persons
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A. Let me read the bulletin. I have no
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independent knowledge of the contents of the
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1 7 there is a q u e s t i o n a b l e h i s t o r y of exposu.e _o _
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1 9 d i s a b i l i t i e s such as T B , the applicant should not be
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employed until satisfactorily passing a mecical _
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examination. Sucn a m e c i c a l e x a m i n a t i o n snail
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b u l l e t i n do not refer to Saranac?
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It's an en t i r e l y d i f f e r e n t bulletin.
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Q.
I understand that. But the bulletins you
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did s u p p l y in 1983 and e a r l y 1984 did not refer to
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Saranac for whatever reason?
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I ' l l t a k e y o u r w o r d for it t h a t t h e y d o n 't
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r e f e r to S a r a n a c . I d o n 't r e c a l l t h a t t h e y do.
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Q.
I b elieve you stated up on q u e s t i o n i n g by
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Mr. C a l e a n d e a r l i e r u n d e r m y q u e s t i o n s t h a t the,,
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issue at the L e x i n g t o n trial c o n c e r n i n g the
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m e m o r a n d u m of a g r e e m e n t was one of a u t h e n t i c a t i o n ?
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A.
I 'm s o r r y . W o u l d y o u j u s t r e s t a t e w h a t
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youjustsaid?
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MR. SPEIGHTS:
R e a d it b a c k , p l e a s e .
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(VJHEREUPON, the record was read
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by the r e p o r t e r as r e q u e s t e d . )
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A . Yes.
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BY M R . S P E I G H T S ;
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Q.
Did you reveal during the Lexington trial
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t h a t Mr. Sn e l l had i n t e r v i e w e d M r . S h a v e r as to
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w h e t h e r or not the t was M r . S h a v e r 's s i g n a t u r e ?
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MR. SPEIGHTS: Thank you. That's all I have.
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Let me ask one thing just as a postsc r i p t . I really
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d o n ' t want it as par t of the d e p o s i t i o n . Is this
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one file now that's been furnished on the research
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the same g e n e r a l f o r m a t as the stack of files?
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THE W I T N E S S : In g e n e r a l , yes.
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STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, COUNTY OF KERSHAW
IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
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W.R. GRACE AND CO., ef al . ,
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I hereby certify that I have read the '
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f o r e g o i n g t r a n s c r i p t of my d e p o s i t i o n given at the
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t i m e and p l a c e a f o r e s a i d , c o n s i s t i n g of P a g e s 1 to
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103 inclusive, and I do again subscribe and m a *e
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o a t h t h a t the same is a t r u e , c o r r e c t and c o m p l e t e
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t r a n s c r i p t of my d e p o s i t i o n so giver, as a f o r e s a i d ,
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and i n c l u d e s c h a n g e s , if any, so m a d e by me.
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SUZANNE KAY TORREY
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before me this
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I, S U S A N M. M A R T I N O , a N o t a r y P u b l i c
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w i t h i n and for the C o u n t y of Cook, State of
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I l l i n o i s , and a C e r t i f i e d S h o r t h a n d R e p o r t e r of said
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state, do h ereby certify:
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Th a t p r e v i o u s to the c o m m e n c e m e n t of the
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e x a m i n a t i o n of the witness, the w i t ness was duly -
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sworn to t e s t i f y the whole tru t h c o n c e r n i n g the
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matters herein;
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That the foregoing deposition transcript
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was reported st en og r ap h ic a ll y by me, was thereafter
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reduced to t y p e w r i t i n g under my personal c i r e c t i o n
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and c o n s t i t u t e s a true record of the t e s t i m o n y g i v e n
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and the proceedings had;
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That the said deposition was taken before
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me at the time and place sp e c i f i e d ;
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That the reading and signing by the
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w i t n e s s of the d e p o s i t i o n t r a n s c r i p t was a g r e e d u p c n
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as s t a t e d h e r e i n ;
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T h a t I am net a r e l a t i v e or e m p l o y e e o r i
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