Document DME3EdVY2LZYj897bdpL6GJ0M
FILE NAME: Raybestos-Manhattan (RBM)
DATE: 0000
DOC#: RBM125
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Barry Castleman Notes, Typed - Stratford Correspondence
STRATFORD CORRESPONDENCE
76A-C
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Washington State memo, June 1943, insulation contractor protest
ing the regulation of health hazard - Brown rebukes writer and
suggests he is ignorant. [Didn't I request asbestos magazine
correspondence.] [Where is Simpson's letter of June 22, 1943
to DeForest of Washington. Brown refers to receiving Simpson's
letter with enclosures.]
128
Newspaper Article - letter by President of Southern Asbestos
rebutting prior newspaper article - statements denfegrating to
blacks are contained therein.
January 30, 1935, letter Raybestos-Manhattan to
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regarding Mellon Institute!to 144 A and By, no current interest
but suggests getting industry interested in enacting proper
legislation.
144 A & B
(See 142) Page 2. "the necessity of some form of united action
by the afflicted industries".
Page 2. "only two forms of dust are known to produce
disabling fibrosis - silica and asbestos.
Page 2. Refers to Lanza statement about spurious
claims against industry.
Describes common problems:
1. Ambulance chasing attorneys and unscrupulous
doctors.
2. Need for occupational disease workmen's compensa
tion legislation to
(i) Eliminate juries
(ii) Eliminate shysters and quacks
(iii) Permit reviews of awards to reduce them.
3. Forum for discussion of dust suppression.
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4.
Establish dust count and x-ray standards-
Brown named to steering committee, but didn't want to be
officially a member since asbestos industry wanted to dis
associate from silica industry in eyes of public and employees.
154
Minutes of November 28, 1933 meeting between Lanza, Brown,
Simpson and Se|tgle.
Lanza discusses desire to complete his study begun three
years earlier. "Unbiased reports of this character (such as
Lanza's) would be helpful to us, if favorable, in the event
we should ever be involved in litigation."
10 3A
December 8, 1936 touting Air Hygiene Foundation:
"It is certainly a cross section of the very finest American industries... interested in... the protection of industries from unknownclaims of workers"
10 3B
Letter December 4, 1936 - Brown to Asbestos Magazine regarding
Air Hygiene Foundation:
(a) Refers to Bulletin No. 1 of Legal Committee
and its compilation of occupational disease
compensation decisions nationwide (p.2).
(b) "Although the Air Hygiene Foundation is approaching
<P. various problems...from an urrb a o od vvaiewpoint
it is nevertheless the ai-aatru fre., o f nindustry A
U is the one institution puon which 'axs: )*
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can rely completely for a sympathetic apprecia-
/( tion of their viewpoint.
97
Letter May 19, 1938, Gardner to Sumner Simpson (SS) regarding
Dr. Lynch. Critigue of Lynch's criticism of Gardners early
theories. Suggests Lynch's cases may have been silicotics instead
of or in addition to asbestotics.
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93, 94, 95, 96
All refer to .fiascogam Article
94
Letter March 23, 1939 - Asbestos Magazine to Sumner Simpson
re: Gardner's ,'
work: f
"of course, we understand that all this info on asbestos is to be kept confidential and that nothing should be published about asbestos in Asbestos Magazine at present".
(See handwritten note referring to American Journal of Public
Health, March, 1939, Vol. 29).
93
Brown thanking Sumner Simpson for Dreesen article (4-5-39).
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Sumner^to Asbestos Magazine re: Dreessen article sent to him
(3-22-39):
"I think when we get through with our Saranac investigation, we will show that this paper is considerably distorted although he does say at last that where the air can be kept down to five million microns [wrong] there is no danger, and I can tell you confidentially, but am not willing to make it public, that the air can be kept below five million microns with proper controls, but I am not willing to start a controversy with my competitors".
Says he and Johns-Manville will share dust control secrets ansri competitors "when the time is right." Says he knows the plants studied Dreessen:
"And as nearly as I can find out they have no dust control at all that amounts to anything."
96 Letter March 21, 1939 from Asbestos to Sumner Simpson attaching
J^reessen article.
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Letter November 3, 1941 from Brown to (SS) re:
proposed book
review of book "Pneumoconiosis" by Lanza - says Johns-Manville
nor Raybestos-Manhattan would object, but refers to sensitivity
of rest of industry to public discussion of asbestos and
specifically says that:
"I have in mind the ostrich like attitude
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has been evidenced from time to time by some members of the industry. 75 Program 8th meeting Industrial Hygiene Foundation (November 1943) includes presentation by Drinker of "Control of Health Hazards in Shipbuilding, including Welders". 121 - 122 Letters from (SS) to Dr. McConnell and back re: Assistance of Metro in lawsuits in Charleston. 122 Passionate plea for assistance'refers to fact that they carried compensation and Health Insurance with Metropolitan, but under the policy asbestos was not covered in damage suits [i.e. No Occupational Disease - workmen's compensation statutes enacted in South Carolina until 1948] Refers to fact that no insurance company had data on asbestos and that Johns-Manville and Raybestos-Manhattan cooperated and now Metropolitan has monopoly on the data. Characterizes law suits as unfair and a favorable result would be of benefit to Metropolitan and also have "considerable bear ing on the dust racket". Infers that Metropolitan will profit from data. 124A and B and 125 All refer to Asbestos desire to write about asbestos. 124B Letter Asbestos to Sumner Simpson. We have written you many times re: publishing on asbestos "always you have requested that for certain obvious reasons, we publish nothing, and naturally, your wishes have been respected." Possibly a discussion of it (asbestosl^along the right lines would serve to combat some of the rather undesirable publicity given to it in current newspapers." 125 Letter (SS) to Brown re: Asbestos request to publish:
I think the less said about asbestos the better
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off we are..."
Asbestos has "been very decent about not reprinting the English Articles."
12 4A
Letter October 3, 1935 - Brown to Sumner Simpson re: Asbestos
request to publish:
"I quite agree with you that our interests
are best served by having asbestos receive
the minimum of publicity...I think we should
warn the publishers (if they decide to publish)
to use American data (generated by Lanza)ythe
subject rather than English."
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145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150
All refer to efforts to affect Lanza Report.
150
December 10, 1934 - Brown to Lanza. Examined galley proof
- sent December 7th - tells Dr. he is sending to Hobart for
his comments and that he will talk to Raybestos-Manhattan.
COMMENTS OF BROWN
\<?/> (1) Conclusion "1" - should include igsx&a tnat asbestos
is milder than silicosis;
[See Lanza conclusion #1]
(2) Omission of sentence about observations of community
doctors.
[See Lanza p. 8 where sentence is included]
(3) Grammatical clarification
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(4) Preliminary in third conclusion is superfluour
[Preliminary does not appear in Laza third conclusion]
(5) Can't find Brown's citation to earlier preliminary draft.
149
December 15, 1934 - letter to Hobart to Brown - Reports he has
compared galleys with preliminary report of three years earlier.
(1) Suggests elimination of comparison of silicosis with
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asbestos because of pendency of workmen's compensation
legislation in New Jersey where Johns-Manvilie was
lobbying against recog. of asbestos as an occupational
disease.
Eloquently explains state of art defense being used
by Johns-Manville in common law suits by employees.
[Lanza ignored this advice and included this phrase at
pg. 2]
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( 2 ) &mrmju3 suggestion re: placing footnote regarding
measuring technique in text.
[Lanza retained in footnote (p. 3)]
(3) Complains that p lan^ E is
"unnecessarily dusty" Says he knows E isn't Johns-
Manville Plant, but wonders "whether the proprietor
of Plant E has had an opportunity to review the
comment." Concludes that comment indirectly concerns
Johns-Manville and requests that it be deleted.
[Lanza considerably toned down this reference to Plant
El"aside from Plant E, it would appear that the dust
hazard was not excessive except in the preparation
rooms of Plants B and C"]
(4) Grammatical suggestion
(5) Conclusions:
(1) Same suggestion that Brown had relative to
inclusion of language suggestive that asbestos/^
is milder than silicosis.
Argues the importance of distinguishing asbestos
an silicosis because of probability of effort
by New Jersey legislation to bring asbestos under
workmen's compensation "and if it is the policy
of Johns-Manville to oppose any bill that attempted
to include asbestos as compensable, it would be
very helpful to have an official report to show
that there is a substantial difference between
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a s b e s t o s ^ # silicosis and by the same token, it
would be troublesome if an official report
should appear from which the conclusion might be
drawn that there is very little, if any, difference
between the two diseases.
[Lanza, of course, complied. In 1935, the first cancer
cases appeared in the literature. In the early 1930's
the British were reporting an epidemic of asbestosis
in the factories as were several United States Authors.
One wonders why the 19 31
referred to
extensively by Hobart and Brown was not published.
The answer, of course, lies in the industry's desire
to deny the disease as long as possible.I
(2) Says industry should cease resisting cardiac enlarge
ment as a sequala of asbestosis.
(3) Preliminary is superfluous
(4) O.K. [Certainly is from industry view as it
suggests limited disability from the disease.
Retired and disabled workers were not examined of
course.]
(5) Objects to language as possibly giving rise to
inference that asbestosis does add to the mortality
of T.B. cases. S u M e s t s elimination of last three
words, for sake or "scientific accuracy" to wit
"other than T.B."
[Lanza dutifully complied rephrasing sentence to "non-
T.B. pulmonary infections."]
(6) Objects to phrase in this conclusion which
apparently compared asbestos dust to granite dust
as Hobart feared that the conclusions might suggest
a "possibility that a pneumoconiosic may arise
more readily from asbestos than granite dust."
Therefore, Hobart suggests elimination of this part
of the conclusion.
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[Lanza complied. The conclusion #6 as printed left
off all reference to comparison with granite dust.]
(7) No comment on suggestion offered.
(6) Recommendations:
Suggests that recommendation 4 be softened by inclusion
of "possible" before "studies."
suggestion was ijnpmnM'rUt
Doesn't think his
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[Lanza didn't either; language was unchanged.]
148
December 18, 1934 - Brown to Judd (Raybestos-Manhattan). Brown
forwards Galleys, his and Hobarts comments to Judd:
"I was just talking to Dr. Lanza and I am inclined to believe he will accede to most of our requests by making appropriate provisions in the article."
147
December 21, 1934 - Brown to Lanza - Returns Galleys to Dr.Lanza,
with Hobarts comments:
"I trust you will give" Hobart (Ex. 149) and his (Ex. 150) "your most serious consideration."
Says they are not suggesting that any scientific facts or
inevitable conclusions be altered.
"All we ask is that all of the favorable aspects of the survey be included and that none of the unfavorable be unintentionally pictured in darker tones than the comments justify. I feel confident we can depend upon you and Dr. McConnell to give us this 'break'..."
146
December 24, 1934 - Brown to Judd (Raybestos-Manhattan).
Apologizes for requesting return of galley prior to Raybestos-
Manhattan review, but this was necessitated because of publication
date pressure and failure to promptly remit would have resulted
in papers publication "as it stood." Touts efforts of he and
Hobart in suggesting changes:
"that will be beneficial from the Industry viewpoint. The interest of J^our company in the Report is identical to that of JohnsManville" and our accomplishments respecting the report will be for the "benefit of both."
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145 Judd to Brown - January 2, 1935 - Acknowledging receipt of Exhibit 146.
"Both Mr. Simpson and myself feel quite safe in leaving the approval of the report in your h a n d s ." Congratulaes Hobart especially on his suggestions.