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A nesting *f the neabere of the fad Lead Teohnloel Cmoxlttoc was h(U la tho imw of th LmI Ladoetrlei Aseoolatloa ea Juaiy It, lMd. Auat "i
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Engle richer Conpaay Ollddea Ccnpaay Betanad UU fredast*, Isas atlooal Lead Cenpnny
AL leraacr. Secretary K.L. Zlcgfeld, Assistant Secretary L.L. Carrlak, Director of Sad Lead Besearch
C.l. Teldrleh, Battalia Manorial Institute*
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The nesting eaa called ta ardor at IOiSO AL, with Dr. Carrlak Is the
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The Chatman acted far uqr correct leoc ta the alatrtes of the preview* aeeV> lad, held ea Deooaber T, lf-tS, and none were presented.
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Be then acted Mr. Teldrleh to report a the oelllac rccearck aft Battalia Meaortal Institute, severing tho period since the lact neatly.
Mr. Voidrich cald that retalte uclog the t-tO-tO D.C. atacral coated flat pocltloa elnctredo wore good h all the palate. With the ether electrodes, B-SO-IO cad B-#0-ll A .C. aad vertical position, the Iced ptgnented palate cave a little ere porosity la the veld aad required nero aaaipulctiea on the part of operator.
L.X.A. Bee. Ill aad 111 were a little Better than the ether palate, and alaest ae (ood ac U*SMf and M-MS. L.I.A. Bo* HI vac the cleeeet to those too.
Be cald that lead appear* t* sake the cleg acre field which 1c 1 disadvantage In vortical welding*
Mr. Teldrleh cald that the radiographs cf vertical fillet velds oar* act ctwl ha would call "awful* but sight Be questioned la lacpoetlens.
f Be explained that *0 the deep veld teats la which saaptcc war* taken to do* > _^lne yield strength, oil Loots tensile strength and elengetlen, the strength cf
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all dill appeared te be about the mm ro(rdleai if poroalty er atetiwr tlujr were painted oeo, or aftar eaeh m1I> The ductility, he said, It ellfhtly dff Ha eald that tha iary require* an aloofatlaa af ItfC la I la*
la preaenbed tha folloelnf ran It* an peel eon* palotad ante with a ta
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la mIi tha fallewlnf inaai ala aa the atm teatat
TT-M4 waa quite poreua oa tha Mrrt paaa with mm additional poroalty oa eonplctIon of tha weld.
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poroalty, hat laaa than TT-feH.
L.I.A. 111 had about tha aaaa poroalty aa U-C*tl on the flrat paaa and no poroalty on eubeaquant paired*
L.I.X. Ill ahared leae poreilty than Ul.l. HU
-MI had allcht aaattared poroalty la tha root hoed Wt wa# better than 6J.MC.si In thl reipeet. It one perfeet with roepeet to poroalty an tha aooond to at,
9 U.MC.I9 ahmad allcht aaatUrod poroalty on tha ft rat paaa and nona la
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Thta oaa alia trei af M AC.
Hr. Toldrlih reported aa fallora far tha teat* nad an wolda whlah were paint*
od with t to 4 nlla tt.laknaia af paint aftar ee* layer af tha weld, nekln( a total af I er 7 paint U(i In eaeh taati
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Ba nad* the fbllovlag oeaaonta ao theae beetai
Ike aontrol tempi* ihorel alight aoettered porNltjr aa til L.l*h* 11U
62-HC-2S and MM8 ikeitl ia4inU aeatterod pereeitjr, u< fairly keaejr poroelty. Thare au ao trouble la a*UU| flat with tke M9>10 aleetrodo.
Mo eusud up hi a opinion of .the general atery of theae tarta kgr anylag that thero appeared to be little dlfferonaa among tbe palate. Be attributed the avt la ductility to the ale at rode and sot to the paint. Oslaei there m too auah paint seed, the paint apparently had no affbet. Be acid that arhlle the lndiaatione of porealty teaotlnee look bad in theae tart*, the atreagth did not appear to bo offeetod.
Ba pointed out that the Bevy tarta era na In a flat peal tloo only with the epoelacna plooed In boiling water after each veld cad tho veldlaf done while hot. Be arid thet tho levy roqulroaonta eoll for yield etrvngth of 62,000 lb. per a*. In. , oltlnate tone lie etrength of 66,000 lb. per a*. In., an elongation of tijl, and an elongation, beat treetod, af 27%.
It vaa deaided thr.t rertiedl we Ida ahould ba na on palate TT-NM, R*MI, 6I-1C-I*. cad L.I.A. 600. Ill and lit.
It we alee fait that terta under Bevy eooditlone ahould be run on theeo aaae palnta, palm lag the veld only onoo, and that a teat ahould alao bo rm under Xovy oondltlooa on paint L.I.A. 111, repeating the palatine *fter oath paaa.
Hr. Teldriah reported that a aunber of the vert leal fillet volda on tho dry ptpeeata had boon eoaplvtod. The vehlele ueed aa a binder far the pi peonta van ono part of 62*UC-tl vehicle In 10 perta af aolvor.t. The aaount of pigneat vaa varied depending upon the Individual prapertlea of pl^eent ueed, and all nlxturen were aede to approa Inctely t>w aaata eoneieteaey. Thla vaa darn to produae a fona thlekneea of ptg.nt aa nearly ea could ba aallnatod. With all pipeanla, tha
penetration vaa good. Tha valda vara rated aa to pome tty, epe ratine aharao*
torlatlaa and eitemel appearance and roaultad la tha fbllevtng rating la vblah tha 1overt ft ran repreeeate tho loaat peroaityi
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Hr. Vollrleh report*! on rertlotl **14* a* v*plp**at*4 r*hl*l* fllM 1.0 t* M *ili thlek. Ik* poroclty m (light Is *11 terta. Th* operating d*itt*r> l*tl* and appear**** **r* *11 *atl*fhte(7. Th* vahlel** t**t4 w*r* the** **4 la p*lot* 77- Ml, M-BC-ll, 1.1.1. Ill *n4 (2.M1. El* eoealutloe m that th* **hl*lu her* no *lt*t ta th* **14*.
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It m concluded that lead in m to o w n porosity bat the offset of this m strength has sot definitely baas determined. Sowar# r, porosity sight affset aeoaptanea if tha Inspector la looking for porosity*
It *** dasld4 la further sort to nako transverse weld tensile tacts oa tha c mo palate on whloh tha regal.* r taoslla taste ware being node, L.1*A* palat So* 111 te ba applied after cash pace, aa vail ac In ana applloatloa only*
Tha Cocaslttaa decided to wait for a fall report so tha oomplotad work aotll later In order to ear* hr. Yoldrlah tine* It expressed r. dec Ire to hare a ttaaaarltrd report nov covering the work on whloh Mr* To Id rl ah had reported orally at tha seating
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The Coaalttaa dealdad to here its next seating la lav York os hbniaiy 14 and 1C, 19td, at whloh tine hr. Teldrleh would have a* auah of tha additional work eos plated aa possible*
The Seoratory vac requested to provide fr. Toldrlah with eopios of the part of tho mlnote* of tha meeting of Deeeofcar 7, 1944 dealing with tha dissuasion of hla work at the Cattails Manorial Institute*
Mr* Toldrlah than left tha Boating*
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Mr* Zlogfeld than reported that (tremble replies ea tho Cosaalttao' roeoasM Action os tho labeling ef rod lead paint, drafted at the previous seating, had bees resolved front
Zegle neher Coapasy ft-snood Lead Products, las* F-tloenl Lead Coapesy Miarwln-hllllaa* Cerngmoy
Tho Conmittoo deeldod that the wording should be sent ea te tho Ittimml
feint Tsrnlsh and Languor UiMUtloe If end vhem approval la rooelvod froa ths Ollddea Coapony.
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Tho Chalraaa thorn road a latter vrlttaa by tho laarotary t* tho Artual Chetdeal Coapany regardlag thalr ndvartislng, and tha reply Pros thr.t eompnay vhish was sot eonsldored eetlsfeetory. This eorrespoadeaee te attaehed ee Exhibit *A**
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The Chalraaa patsted out that no reply had bees reaelved Pros Andrew I room Coapony to a letter pretesting misstatea*ote la their advertising*
It see felt that a letter should be wrlttea te tho 14iter ef "loutfereater* ferehaslng Agent* answarlnt the ertlele by the Chief Chemist ef Andrew (rows Co* sad that e oamplelot should bo sad* to tho federal Trad* Commission oa tho Andrew lrw Coapnay ndveitletag, ee ewtherited by the tseostlvs Cealtt** ef the Asaealstiaa
A request that the lead Industrie* Assoelettea advertise la the 'Official Digest* (published by fedsretlsa *f feint A Temlsh fevduotlea Club#)we* read aa4
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the CeoaUttee w w h iiM that the Aaeoelatlea ebeuld tk ton* edrertlelnc pro* Tidal it did not duplloete la the mj w publication, the advert lain* effort of Mtbtn, and that icai of the Aeaoeiattea'o apace ha drrcW. to rad load*
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At All point, Wr. Ooeti exhibited a Mjp of Bulletin 01 of tha t> ! Bepartaoat of Labor, antltlad *Htal Work Ijrjurlaa la Bhlpyarda - 1H) aad lHi,* obtainable froai tha Oaramaast Printing Offlee for lty, Ba eaphaalaed that thla report of shipyard lajurlaa aada aa aaatlon of tha oaoarraaoa of load poleoalac*
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Tha Paa ratary aakod IT tha Coaalttaa had a eb>etlon to oacaylad a lUaiant Director to hand both tha lad Land aad Whlta Load "oeoaroh progreao.
Tha Coaadttoo axpraaaad m objection.
Thraa application* for tha poaltloa vara considered to hare tha boat paMl* bllltloa, thaaa balag fnai
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It nr aojtaatad that thaaa thraa appllaanta nl(ht ba aakad to boro a aaal with tha Ceanlttoe at tha tlao of Ita next aeetlnc, ana bete( aakod for broakfaat, aaothcr for loach aad aaotaer for dlnnar, la order that tha Coaalttaa aad tha appilaant ni(ht aaat.
Tha Secretary *aa ta arre&co thla far Nbruary IB, Ibid.
dr. Ooets oo( jested tha Baaratary aakaevladfa all applloetleno far tha poaltloa.
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Tha Coaalttaa than proceeded to a oceelderetleo af tha rarlood paper aa aariae prlaora aad aada KM aorreetiena. It * tha aeaaaaaua af aplaloa that tha aaattea entitled, "Coaolueloea* should bo oenplctely roarlttoa*
The Coaxlttee dooidad that tha paper ahould la addlttoa to it# title aarry tha
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X * Ttry lit*r*it*d to tan your'not* of January 7, aantlaalng on* of our r*o*st adrrtl**a*nt eoDO*rnln< iln* ohroant* prla*r* u4 your ruuarka t>*t you hm rod l**d point* inlUVli, uhloh la year opinion *ro *op*rlor to tlae ehroaot** for aorltla* uoo *to. X wa* alto lct*r**tod la hoarlnc what you hod to **y ooooamlas load ohpoaot* flpMU.
for your Inforoot loo w* or* not la th* rlfwtt bulla**, *onfining our r*l*tlfcn*hlp thr*ln to *upplyln( th* pijoint poopl* with h*avy Ibrcolai chooloal** lonnr, * you kaou l*od ohroaat* ho* b**a o 11 known oad r*ll*bl pipMnt for aony jniri h*r*o* tin* ohroawt* ho* b*M o or* or 1*** r*o*at d*r*lopewct ond ecn**qu*ntly 1***
C*ccroily ksora to lndurtry. It 1* for thl* r*o*oe that * oho*o to
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