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f.k'iisaato C. HOW 'VMt I I JCiUOHi Pfitori - General Offices April IS, 1969 n,A;-T:i.cizEn salls call report * * i ><t MCt TO FILL Vu-rV' H. V.1. Farrar - JFQ P. K. Haler - Cincinnati W. J1'. Via,,'chofi K. Wheeler - tWKKK K. C. V.'ilue - A,iron J. D. Wright - JWR10 J. R. Daroy - JFQ VISIT TO: JJ/'/J'i.:: FOR NOR: FOR MONSANTO: NOR Dayton, Ohio Kerch <-'i ipoy R. Lauvr - Manager Thaeutr - HAD " Fitv.pu trick - Purchasing P. K. Kaier l. c. wildiC. Patou DL'J'A .1LS: Pete lieler in setting up thin .visit had indicated v.c wanted to discuss (i) recent publicity on Aroclors etc poJluto.ili and (il) research efforts to find an Aroclor replace. .'.cut. The- meeting ergan by referring to previous publicity on Aroclors being indentAi'icd in birds (Jansen A Y.'ieirr-.a r'.e' s worker of two- three years ago). At that time, a Dr. Tnc,.;aa (riot a Fed.' cal doctor) of K0|;. hah, centaetrd P. Vlveicr. I.fiuer did not Know '.Tint r.ad been said sctv.cc n tnooc two but it hod evidently allayed NCR's fears. VJe presented a copy of the Si-0 Chronicle article and gave Monsanto's position on the article. KCR said 'it seemed provocative find some jumping to conclusions were apparent. They agreed that nothin" would be gained by Monsanto'o enter ing Into a pu.jllc: controversy with the reporter on so;,it. of his statements. IVOR were1 very grateful that v;c: wrought this to their attention. They want to re: Kept informed of future: developments. Lauer said tnnt NCR would tahe no action unless a second article appeared specifically HONS 080267 -2- naming their paper as a source of pollution. Such an article could play into the hands of 3-ft'0 Action paper. V.'e then got down to a discussion of the technical needs of the dye solvent. There arc two needs: (l) Aroelor 12*12 replacement in existing products. (11) Solvents for specialty requirements. NCR are always anxious to find replacements for Aroelor 12*12 to get a lower cost, second source of supply and lower odor. In the U. S., NCR are now locked Into a resin system for both the dye-encapsulated coating and the receiving paper coating. I11 the U. S., they have switched from Attapulgus clay. The resins now used arc PVMMA (GAP') - KI-iA from PP&R is an alternative - and a phenolic resin. In Japan, NCR will use an adsorbent clay. In the U. K., Wiggins Teape are still "leary" of a resin arid they will probably stay on clay as they can get the Japanese material cheaper than NCR can in the U. S. As dye:. NCR is getting locked in on CVJ, due to the shortage of p-phenyl phenol. Laucr was receptive to the idea of supplying screening tests and a sample of CVI. for Monsanto pre-screen can didates to replace Aroelor 1212. The two main screening tests are: . 1. Solubility in CVI. Must be over 1-1/2,1 Prefer over 3r> HUNS 080268 -3- o,i CVL in Aroclor 1242 is soluble for several weeks. The solubility must be "stable" for months or even years. NCR in their tests prepare a super-saturated solution and leave it standins. In seven weeks, it levels off at trie critical solubility level. 2. Tne solvent effects the speed of reaction arid inten sity of color produced v;Jth the resin on the receiving paper. This is a fast test and NCR would test this the mot ives.. One additional drawback of Aroclor 1242 witli resin systems is that it contributes to print trade. This was not the case when Att&pulgus clay was used. Of rtplacements for Aroclor tested, the following were nearest: a. Mono Isopropyl biphenyl The (fravfoaokB were: ~ price, non-availability and the solubility was not quite good enough although it doesn't contribute to print fade like Aroclor 12-12. b . jib- .'l 0 The: print is too dull with HD-40 and mono isopropyl biphenyl is setter than HR-40 in this regard. c . fan11e1zcr_lYly This, is labelled "interesting" and five gallons were ordered for further tests. TCP is being evaluated in a specially grade of paper. We brought up Santiclzer ly2. Although vie are aware this has been killed,_NCR's world-wide usage of Aroclor 1242 in i960 was 6.3 M pounds. If Sonticizcr li'2 docs the Job, I am sure vie would reconsider manufacture. V.'e raised the point of the poor copies obtained with NCR paper compared to trie good copies now obtainable with ultra-tnin, no smudge carbon papers. Laucr agreed on tills but it seems that one answer lies in coating lighter papers. HONS 080269 V.'c jjflvc NCR a list representative of all our plasticizers. NCK arc willing to test about twenty-five representative candidates. NCR's Japanese plant v.'il.l start up in April. Tnackcr will leave for Japan April 13. i!c state d that Knncgafuchi's price was very low. (M.-iK report it i s around l-l.b coat;/ pound . ) A t tcntion Pibl TTe Jo not want any mention made of our contract of.in/, extended to cover Japan at tills stage. KCiv and 1 dis cussed this after the call. Lauer did not seem too happy that we nad not told the"; of a source in Japan prior to i-ii/i'.'s plant coming on stream. The Japanese plant will start up on U. S. export mate riel. Mitsui had brought Kanegafuchi to NCR's, attention. Mitsu bishi and Mitsui are licensees of NCR in Japan. NCR have not finally decided on their plant location in h.h.C. V.'c quoted for Oelseen in Germany. The alternative sites arc in Holland and Bclgiuai. Quotes were requested. A_ction 1. (PiG-O Follow up on obtain.it.;; sample of CVL and scrocniii; tests from NCR per J.cucr'o suggestion. 2. (Product Group) ' Inform MI-iK of Thacker's Japanese trip - done. 3. (Product Group) Submit quotations on Aroclor 12A2 for Holland/ Belgium. A . (P1H ) Submit sample of Santicizer 1;;2. b . (PiM) Can you clarify position with PP&-R on resins used. Is PViiMA/KiA used in dye-coating and a phenolic jri receiving pacer. Do we supply any i;;iA and phenolic. C ` ' --- Cummin;; Pat or HONS 080270 o- Senile3acr 173'! : Santlc if.or lYlj : Sanl.lc j >:cv a 7lC : Tj/?.b lo/*> Ti/lb/lO Aroclor 123A/'llv<-'io Mo Good Aroelor l?At/i;;'-Ao 3 nit re at.'h Aroclor 3 r ji'/jib-Au/lKP No Good Can wc snake alkyl diphenyls? HONS 060271