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R. G. Potter - B2SB J. C. Weber - B2SK D. Wood - B2SD C. Paton - B2SK Attached is some material from the January 14 EPA Industry - PCB Meeting. WBP MGNS 058569 II I I I Statement by Richard L. Hauser, President Electrical Utilities Company, La Salle, Illinois at EPA Industrial Meeting on PCB Washington, D.C. January 14, 1976 Mr. Train, my name is Richard Hauser. I am President of the Electrical Utilities Company in La Salle, Illinois. My company manufactures capacitors used in air conditioners, television receivers, lamp ballasts, and many other types of equipment. As is the case with similar capacitors made by other manufacturers in the United States, they are almost all impregnated with Poly chlorinated Byphenyl, known as Monsanto Aroclor #1016. In common with other aroclors, this material is non-flammable in the usually accepted sense. In the.pursuit of the goal of phasing out PCB's in the United States, I believe it is imperative that we take into consideration not only the adverse environmental effects we are trying to minimize, but also the safety impact of these actions. One consideration which must be faced squarely is the matter of flammability. There are literally hundreds of millions of small industrial capacitors impregnated with non-flammable Polychlorinated Byphenyl (PCB) in service today. I am not concerned about their contribution to fire hazard in these existing installations. However an additional SO to 75 million of these capacitors are being placed in service each year. HONS 058570 . -2The materials the Electrical Utilities Company has tested may be more environ mentally acceptable than PCB's, and they have other chartereristies which make them reasonable candidates for use in Industrial capacity's, however they have flammability characteristics as dangerous as those of ordinary mineral oil. have 1 am aware that thore/as yet been no serious fire problems attributable to capacitors in Japan since they switched from PCB's, to other impregnants. I am aware that pressure Interrupting devices In some applications or electrical fuses can be used to reduce the possibility of case ruptures or fire when a capacitor fails. These safety devices, while reasonably reliable, are by no means completely effective. There also may not yet be many non-PCB capacitors In service in Japan. Failures are more likely to occur in application when the capacitors arc older. Unless some other component in equipment fails first, or capacitors are removed from service for other reasons, all small industrial capacitors will eventually fail In service. Because of the large number of capacitors being put into service. If they contain a flammable dielectric, it is my opinion that it will not be long before the first failure occurs resulting In a fire. The Electrical Utilities Company has already had a fire in our factory while experimenting with non-PCB'a. If our Industry agrees to phase out PC8f$, EPA should agree to help us coordinate the introduction of non-PCB's with those organizations and agencies that will be concerned with flammable capacitor dielectrics. Underwriter's Laboratory, the Consumer Froduct Safety Commission, and Insurance companies using the National Xlectrlc Code will he some of the organizations concerned. Also, my company hat no wish to jeopardize its own survival, as well as peoples' lives and property, by producing a product which la not as safe as capacitors are today* If we are forced to use flammable dielectrics, some type of government sponsored indemnification for potential damages could greatly aid users of non-PCB capacitors and reduce the risk to capaoltor manufacturers potenlal damages pose. 1 hope that in our mutual search for reasonalbe alternatives to PCB's you will take these suggestions into account. * MOMS 058571 A8EH0A Introductory Remarks Hr. Train General Overview Hr. Schweitzer Director Office of Toxic Substances Alternative Approaches to Replacing PCBs . . Moderated by . Or. breidenbach Assistant Administrator for Via ter and Hazardous Materials Comments by Representatives of Industrial Associations Comments by Representatives of Companies Current EPA Field Activities Affecting Manufacturers Mr. Legr-o Assistant Administrator for Enforcement Closing Remarks Mr. Train Meeting will adjourn promptly at 4:30 PM MOMS 058512 Name W. S. Kingsolver y C. P. Dibble G. Wallis V. A. Thaliner B. L. Gunn V R. J. Siverd B. R. Adler B. H. Falk ,. J. C. Hydrick 0. Butner J. F. Young y L. S. Vaber V E. M. Freegard C. Kahusken A. T. Forziatl J. R. Hutzler Tyler Nourse Wayne A. Peterson Richard Rollins Larry Arsenault B. A. Kerris S. R. Orem D. M. Sauter Roger E, Wills, Jr. N. Ray Clark James P. Rutt -V William E. Barkovllz R. L. Hquser C. H. Tuttle Maurice R. Eastin Russell E. Train F. J. Fitzgerald W. B. Papageorge Oliver Olivier / R. E, Uptegraff, Jr. S. R. Kertz Richard A. Rhoden John Buckley Joseph Highland Andrew Breidenbach Charles Gregg Fred W1ndeer>P W. E. McLean & Glenn E. Schweitzer Walter W. Kovallck, Jr. Stanley Legro Robert L. Durfee ATTENDEES Company Phone McGraw Edison Co. Mallory Capacitor Co. Mallory Capacitor Co. 412-873-2124 317-656-5353 617-272-4100 Helena Corp., Pollution Control 205-663-8641 . Walther, Inc. H. K. Porter Co., Inc. 804-845-0921 Nat'l. Electrical Manufacturers 212-489-4182 Association Natural Resources Defense Council 202-737-5000 National Electrical Manufacturers 212-682-1500 Association Sangamo Electric Co. 803-878-6311 Sangamo Electric Co. 803-878-6311 General Electric Co. 203-373-2406 General Electric Co. 203-373-2038 Advance Transformer Co. 312-267-8100 Capital Broadcast News 202-785-2889 EPA-Science Advisory Board 703-557-7720 Aerovox Inc. 617-994-9661 Electronic Industries Association 202-659-2200 Cornell DubiTier Electronic Corp. 201-589-7500 Jard Company, Inc. 802-442-3173 Jard Company, Inc. 802-442-3173 Westlnghouse Electric 412-255-3616 Industrial Gas Cleaning Institute 203-323-3143 Westlnghouse Electric 812-332-4421 Westinghouse Electric 412-255-5815 Universal Manufacturing Corp. 203-336-0161 Research Cottrell 201-885-7000 American Standard 313-931-4000 Electrlcl Utilities Co. 815-223-1732 Aerovox Industries 617-994-9661 EPA 202-755-0413 EPA (Administrator) Monsanto Chemical Company 314-694-1000 Monsanto Chemical Company 314-694-1000 Standard Transformer Company 216-392-1563 . R. E. Uptegraff Manufacturing Co. 412-887-7700 NFPA . 202-466-2145 NIOSH 301-443-3680 EPA-ORD 202-755-2611 Environmental Defense Fund 202-833-1484 EPA-OWHM 202-755-2800 EPA-OWHM 202-755-0320 Sprague Electric Company 413-664-4411 Sprague Electric Company 413-664-4411 EPA-OTS 202-755-8040 EPA-OSWMP 202-755-9187 EPA-Enforcement 202-755-2500 Versar, Inc. 202-354-3350 HONS 058573 Name Gary Comstock Gary Robinson Tom Kopp 1. E. Wallen Mervln First f B. A. Schneider Warren Easley John F. Welch J. Young Harry Eikenberry H. Appleton ft Herman E. Gabel. Jr. A. Field Frank Sebastian t Jim Enyert R. C. Arndt J. B. Cox Vernon Hartwell J. W. Spensley M. P. Strlcr W. B. Henderson/* ATTENDEES Company EPA-OTS EPA-Publ1c Affairs EPA-OTS . EPA-OTS R. F. lnteronics, Inc. EPA-OPP Monsanto Chemical Company General Electric Co. Fed. Commerce Commission Hevi-Duty Electric McGraw Edison Co. Niagara Transformer Corp. Concern, Inc. Envlrotech Corp. Dept, of Commerce EPA Dept, of Commerce Dept, of Commerce House Merchant Marine Com. EPA-Enforcement Environtech Corp. Phone 202-426-9000 202-755-0344 202-755-4 B80 202-755-6956 516-231-6400 202-344-2221 202-452-8863 413-494-4661 202-224-9351 919-734-8900 614-459-1200 716-896-6500 202-966-0006 415-854-200 202-967-2724 202-755-0423 202-967-3255 202-967-2652 202-225-7307 703-557-7420 717-272-2001 MOWS 058574 PCB HISTORY IN THE U.S. HONS 058575 Transformers Public Buildings Trains/Subways Industrial Applications PCBs IN THE ECONOMY MBlion of Pounds Sold Currently Annual to in Additions Annual Date Use (1974) Losses 337 300 3.5% 1% Individual Units In Use 135,000 30% 50% 20% Comments 200-3,000 Ib/unit 500-1,500 Ib/unit 1,000-12^000 Ib/unit Large Capacitors t>2 lb) Electrical Utilities Industrial Applications 290 180 6% 2% 5M 90% 10% Small Capacitors 430 270 Lights, TV. Air Conditioners Motors. Other Industrial Uses 3% 3% 790M 70% 30% .07-1 Ib/unit .1-1 Ib/unit Paper Products, Miscellaneous (Sealants, Paints, Inks) 63 40 Investment Casting Wax Hydraulics/Lubricants Mining Other 3 .7-2 87 5% ( MONS 058SJ6 OBJECTIVES L0S\30~XER^/il ELIMINATE PCBs FROM ECONOMY ELIMINATE PRODUCTION AND IMPORT OF PC3s AND PCB-CONTAINING PRODUCTS I yz INTERDICT AS MANY ENVIRONMENTAL DISCHARGES OF PCBs AS POSSIBLE HONS 058577 WITHOUT UNNECESSARILY DENYING PUBLIC OF ESSENTIAL PRODUCTS AND SERVICES AT REASONABLE COST DISRUPTING EXISTING BUSINESS PATTERNS JEOPARDIZING OUR INTERNATIONAL COMPETITIVE POSITION MONS 0505 78 STRATEGY \N IMMEDIATE FUTURE Utilize Federal Authorities Under FWPCA Permit Program Toxic Effluent Standards Pretreatment Standards Water Quality Criteria Spill Regulations Encourage Use of State and Local Authorities Effluent Standards Solid Waste Disposal Regulations Encourage Voluntary Steps by Manufacturers, Transporters, Users, and Disposers Reduce Losses from Federal Facilities Accelerate Assessment Activities Seek Toxic Substances Control Legislation MOMS 05*579 ILLUSTRATIVE PCB ROUTES TO AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT (Transformers and Capacitors) DIRECTTO WATER [NEAR MANUFACTURING SITES Process Er Coolant Effluent (2) Storm Runoff (2) INDIRECT VIA SOIL Landfil Seepage 13) INDIRECT VIA AIR Emissions and Vaporization (2) [TRANSPORT AND STORAGE Water Spills (1) Land Spats (3) Equipment Leaks (2) Emissions and Vaporization (1) AT OPERATIONAL SITES [ DISPOSAL [ Liquid Overflow (1) Venting (1) Landfil Seepege (4) Product Abandonment (4) Emissions and Vaporization (3) (4) > 10.000 Ibs/yr. (3) > 10.000 Ibs/yr. (2) 1X00 -10.000 Ibs/yr. (1) < 1X00 Ibs/yr. HONS 058580 PCB DISCHARGE ROUTES (Small Capacitor Plant) vacuum pump----------------------------------------EVAPORATION (GEN.)-------------------------------VENTILATION FROM IMPREGNATING TANK RINSE WATER FROM COMPONENT WASHING-----NON-CONTACT COOLING WATER------------------------ SANITARY WATER----------------------------------------------INFILTRATION (1)------------------------------------------------ J RINSE WATER FROM ________ CAPACITOR WASHING OPERATION SPENT DETERGENT WASH-------------------------REJECT CAPACITORS 12)-----------------------------WATERLESS HAND CLEANING MATERIALS, FLOOR DRY RAGS, ETC.------------------------------ DRIP PAN COLLECTION-----------------------------RINSE WATER FROM THE DRY-WELL (3)------- NOTES: (II MCLUDES MISCELLANEOUS SPILL IN TRANSFER OR STORAGE (21 QUANTITY OF REJECTS IS O) NO WATER HAS SEEN PUMPED ft SENT TO INCINERATION TO THIS DATE M AIR WATER MUNICIPAL SEWER M DRY WELL (MUNICIPAL) LANDFILL INCINERATION CONTRACTOR hons osasai POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES TO PCBs TRANSFORMERS Mineral Oil in Vault or Relocation Site ^ Air or Gas Cooled ^ Environmental!/ Acceptable Replacement Fluids ^ LARGE CAPACITORS Mineral Oil at Selected Sites ^ . Use of DC Motors ^ Environmental!/ Acceptable Replacement Fluids ^ SMALL CAPACITORS Elimination of Need for Filler (e.g. plastic film)'/ Environmental!/ Acceptable Replacement Fluids^ MONS 058582