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TESTIMONY REGARDING 16 CFR Parts 1304 and 1305
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RESPIRABLE FREE-FORH ASBESTOS Proposal to Ban Carta In Patching Coapounds and Artificial Etcberizing
Materials (Esters and Ash)
As Published in the FEDERAL REGISTER, Vol. 42, fSo> 14$ - Friday, July 29, 1977
Presented by Harrison B. Rhodes Union Carbide Corporation Metals Division Niagara falls. New York 14302 August 15, 1977
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\ My i*u* is Harrison 8, Rhodes and I am speaking on behalf of the
Union Carbide Corporation where 1 hold the position of Technology Manager in the Calldria" Asbestos Department. My education is In the field* of Chemical Engineering where I hold the degree of Dr. of Science free* Columbia University For the past four years ary assignment has been in the area of asbestos health and regulatory matters and has also included research on monitoring techniques. 1 am currently serving the Asbestos Information Associatton/Ncrth America as Chairman of the Standards and Technical Committee, Cochairman of the Ad Hoc Committee on Construction, and Chairman of the Subcommittee on Monitoring Procedures.
Union Carbide Corporation has been actively engaged, since 1962, in th* mining and milling of asbestos ore at facilities In central California. The asbestos fiber produced Is marketed throughout the United States and in many foreign countries. One of the principal applications in this country has been in tape-joint compounds. We do not ourselves manufacture such confounds, however, nor do we manufacture any other asbestos-containing finished products.
As the CobwIsstoners are well aware, there has been a tremendous flood of "pap*r" generated In relation to the asbestos regulatory matters under consideration here and we believe that several critical issues have been lost in the flood. We would like to take the opportunity today to focus on these Issues, discuss the regulatory principles involved, and suggest an approach which we believe Is consistent with the facts available. Some addi tional directly relevant exposure data will also be presented.
It should be emphasized that this discussion will deal directly with, and be presented, in terms of tape-joint compounds. Speckling compounds are
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similar in composition and use, but are applied in so much smaller amounts that the potential for significant exposure is virtually non-existent.
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Eot>eH2lng kits are outside of our field of expertise and win not be con
sidered. By way of background, gypsum wall board was developed around 1880-1900.
It did not come Into wide usage until World War 11 where the need for houses
and other buildings made this quicker, less complex construction method very
popular. Usage has grown substantially since that time and drywall construe-
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tlon Is now used in a majority of residual construction and in a wide variety
of eotraerclal and public buildings, wall board production has Increased from
two billion square feet in 1946 to a peak of 15 billion square feet In the
bow year of 1973 and 13 billion square feet in 1976. The joining of the wallboard went through an evolution that Included
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perforated metal tape, doth mesh, perforated paper and the presendpaper were
used to bridge the crack. Initially, ordinary plaster was used to embed and cover the tape, but In the mid 40`s specially formulated dry mixtures with
casein as the binder were introduced. These mixtures typically contained
10-155 asbestos. We have been told that the plaster of that time also contained
asbestos. Ready-mix, 1.e-> wet compounds were Introduced In the mid 50's and
were in broad general use by 1960. The asbestos content of muds In general
dropped during the ?0's to approximately the range of 2-75. Tape-joint compounds
containing asbestos have thus been in widespread use of 30-35 years. Over the
first 15 years of this period the main material used was provided dry and con
tained relative high (10-155) levels of asbestos.
The Commission's consultant, A. T. Kearney, Inc., has estimated that today's annual value of shipments of patching compounds Is 80 million dollars.
At an average price of $4.50 per 62.5 lb. can this 1$ equivalent to about
560,000 tons of product contained In 17.8 million cans. The formulations we
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have seen cost about 2Q-30f .511 In raw materia? costs to replace asbestos so that the added burden, just to cover raw materials costs Is about 4.5 million
dollars annually. This cost, plus any percentage markups used, would be added
to the cost of the structure and would cany the normal financing charges
over'the life of the indebtedness. It shoudl also be noted that at a 3X
loading the 560.000 tons of product would contain about 17,000 tons of asbestos
with a product value around 1.7 million dollars. We believe that the total
of 6.2 million dollars annually presents a reasonably reliable minimum esti
mate of the direct economic effects of the replacement of asbestos in tape-
joint compounds being forced by the Consumer Product Safety Courolssion and
other governmental agencies. The added effect of poorer performance has not
been considered.
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In the assessment of the risk that needs to be related to this cost
burden, it is important to have a reliable estimate of the level of consumer
exposure. All of the available information on exposure has been assembled and
is discussed in detail in an Appendix to this presentation which will be sub
mitted prior to the August 29, 1977, discussion. Only the key results will be
suroarized here.
The data presented are contained in five reports: 1. The tests conducted by ftohl et al^ at one location In'New York, NY.
This is the data cited by the petitioners. 2, A survey of a variety of sanding conditions made by Rhodes and
Ingalls^ and cited extensively by the Asbestos Information
Association/North America in their response to the petition.
1. Rohl et al. Science. Volume 189, August 15, 1975, p. 552.-' 2. 6.D.C.I. Drywal?, .January/February 1976.
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3. Data from State and Federal OSHA cos^litncs inspections cowpiled by Equitable Environmental Health Incorporated as part Of a study f asbestos exposure In the construction' Industry.
4. A report submitted to tbe CP5C by Union Carbide Corporation on July 14, 1977, covering consumer exposure during a typical speckling and a moderate size drywatl Installation operation.
5. A study by Union Carbide which has just been finished on another consumer Installation of a large room including the celling.
The results of this survey are summarized In the two figures you are now receiving. Figure 1 shows along the vertical axis, the airborne asbestos concentration In fibers per cubic centimeter longer than 5 micrometers* that occurred In the.breathing zone of the operator during the sanding operation. Usually a miBfcer of samples were collected at each location, the dark bar shows the range of concentrations found with the arithmetic average of all samples Indicated by the arrow. The "P" and "H* along the bottom show whether the sanding was by hand or by pole and the numbers show how many sansples made up the average.
The data on the left are those of Rohl et al that were cited in support of the petion. These were obtained in one test in New York City and appear to consist of a mnnber of very short, i.e., 1 to 1.5 minute samplesShort samples typically fluctuate widely so It 1$ probably most appropriate to look at the mean values of 10 fibers/cc for pole sanding and five fibers/cc for hand sanding. It should be noted that consumers basically sand by hand.
The next group of data ware obtained by Union Carbide in conjunction With the Gypsum Drywall Contractors International. These samples were collected at a variety of cwwercial sites selected as representative by GDCJ and operating under everyday job conditions. The range here is from 0.2 to about 3 fibers/cc.
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When the wide differences between these data and those of Rohl became apparent* six of the filters were checked blind*' by two other laboratories. The agreement was good. Details were included In toe AIA/NA presentation to the Conwission and are also shown in the Appendix.
The last group of comnerefal data was assembled by Equitable Environ mental Health, Incorporated, and consists of two short tests conducted by EEH and results from OSHA compliance inspections at four job sites. The EEH tests were very short and very little asbestos was generated. The OSHA data cover the range of about 0.2 to 3 and look very ouch like the Union Carbide results.
The most Important data for the present consideration are the two consumer tests shown on the right of the figure. One result is for the case of extensive spackllng and the removal and replacement of three 4* x 8* drywall panels and was reported in detail to the Commission on July 14, 1977. Five lbs. of dry-nix compound were used- Since that time five of the filters have been checked by a second laboratory and the average differed by less than 202. As might be expected, the range here for tbs much smaller scale job was quite low at 0.3 - 0.5 fib#rs/cc >5p.
The second test was run on a larger scale with 19 panels of drywall Installed in a 24* x 12* recreation room to cover three walls and the celling. Approximately 80 lbs of ready-mix compound containing 1.751 asbestos on a wet basis and 2.62 on a dry basis was used. Two people hand sanded twice here and the breathing zone concentrations ranged from 0,3 to 0-5 fibers/ec >5y.
The other two operations of interest, wet-out of dry materials and cleanup after sanding, are shown in Figure 2. Here, In order to get the Rohl et al data on toe graph it was necessary to run the scale from zero to sixty
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The wet-out of dry materials-is^shewn-on1the left-hand part of
the figure* Commercial material Is usually packaged In a 25 lb* bag and one or several such bags were dumped Into Water'In th# operations shown. The Rohi
data gave a mean of 47 flbers/cc whereas OSHA Inspections at five locations
had a range of 2.7 to 5.4 fibers/cc SiriBd a mean of about 4 flbers/cc. The
only consumer mix of S lbs. gave 0.3 flbers/cc >5y.
Th# sweeping and cleanup data are given in the right-hand side of
the figure. The Rohl data are again very high whereas QSHA shows a range of
about 0.5 to 2.
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Interestingly enough* the consider results, although still quite low*
showed the highest levels during cleanup." The small job was swept up with a
pan and brush with a level of 0.`3 flbers/cc and a level of 0.5 fibers/cc occurred
for a short period while the clothes were being shaken prior to washing. For the larger scale test the range was 0.6 to 1.3 during sweeping and
during vacuum cleaning. It Is very important to understand that all of the concentrations
shown occurred during the active pursuit of the particular operation, l.e.*
sanding, wet-out, or cleanup. These operations generally take place for a
moderate portion of the day with concentrations at much lower values for the
rest of the 8 hour period. Eight-hour time-weighted average exposures for
the commercial sanding operations studied by Rhodes and Ingalls shown in
Figure 1 ranged from 0.1 to 0.9 flbers/cc >5y- Fpr the smaller scale consumer
Installation the highest values obtained were 0-3 fibers/cc for the first day,
which was mainly from rip Out of the old wallboard, 0.02 fibers/cc for the
second and 0.01 flbers/cc for the third. In the full room Installation the
results for each combined sanding and cleanup operation were:
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Ftrst day Operator A Operator B -
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In both tests, sauries collected before and after the Installation give the same values so no lingering asbestos exposure had been generated.
One of your staff members, Dr. Stephen Bayard, has developed a model^
to estimate the risk of respiratory cancer from low level exposure to asbestos from taping compounds. This model Is patterned on that described in paper by Enterline and Henderson^ except that Dr. Bayard has made an assumption that
the effect of dose is cumulative. This builds a geometric Increase in risk Into
the model. We question whether there is any basis for this assumption, but do
not feel that this is an appropriate place to debate the Issue. It Is of more
Interest to use this model, which is heavily loaded to predict high risk with
the highest exposure just described for consumer use-
Following Dr. Bayard's directions in page 3, Part C, of the reference
cited for the highest time-weighted average of 0.3 fibers/cc for two days found
for the consumer applications we obtain an annual exposure rate of 0.003 fibers/cc
per day, a latent period to turner of 683 years, D.DOX deaths of asbestos induced
cancer, and a relative risk of
. This is probably on the high side due
to assumptions used in building the model but since an exposure of 0.003 fibers/cc
is Indistinguishable from background. It Is not unreasonable. We question whether
this Is the "un*1re2asonable risk- referred to in the statute.
1. Memorandum to Dan Clay dated June 3, 1977. 2. Presented at Pinehurst, HC, March 12, 1976.
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Let us now relate this risk to the proposed ban of conswner patching
iounds containing respirable, free-forw asbestos under Sections 8 and 9 of
Consumer Product Safety Act. To quote Section 8:
Sec. 8. Whenever the Cowmlsslon finds that-- (1) a consumer product Is being, or will be, distributed in
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comerce and such consumer product presents an unreasonable risk
of In. jury*, and (2) no feasible consumer product safety standard under this
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Act would adequately protect the public from the unreasonable
risk of Injury associated with such product*
the Commission may propose and, in accordance with section 9,
promulgate a rule declaring such product a banned hazardous
product.* (Emphasis added.)
And from Section 9, Paragraph 2 (c):
(2) The Cocnisslon shall not promulgate a consumer product
safety rule unless it finds (and includes such finding in the
rule}--
(A) that the rule (including its effective date) is
reasonably necessary to eliminate or reduce an unreasonable
risk of injury associated with such product;
(8), that the promulgation of the rule is in the public
interest; and (C) In the case of a rule declaring the product a banned
hazardous product, that no feasible consumer product safety
standard under this Act would acequately protect the public
fro* the unreasonable risk of Injury associated with such
product.* (Emphasis added.) .
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#ot^ particularly thfr repeated use of the words "unreasonable risk* and the requirement to eliminate or reduce unreasonable risk, not to make this Hsk to zero. The Act makes it quite clear that the intent is not the total elimination of all risk but of "unreasonable risk" and It delegates to the Commission the complex antf soul-searching problem of deciding what is "reasonable*.
The conraents of your own staff on the strength of the evidence used to support the ban is well summarized by three short quotations from the record:
"The petitioners believe that high quantities of asbestos fibers remain in the air after these products ere sanded and the fibers substantially increase the risk of mesothelioma and lung cancer." ^
"The petitioners have addressed problems which arise fro being exposed to asbestos fibers occupationally and environ mentally. However, they have not cited any concrete evidence of the hazard which is' tied directly to the products for which they seek a ban. It merely cited the fact that these products do contain asbestos fibers and they have cited the fact that asbestos fibers in other situations have been linked to lung disease. We question whether the evidence presented in the petition Is sufficient to show that these substances may cause Substantial personal Injury or substantial Illness during or as a proximate result of-any custonary or reasonably foreseeable handling or use." (Emphasis added.1 2
(1) CFRi Vol. 42, Ko. 146- Friday, July 29, 1977
p. 38790.
(2) tetter of July 11, 1976, from Charles M- Jacobson, BCM1 to Francine Shacter, TAD, OSCA.
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*The Instances of single or short-term exposure to asbestos cited In the petition can be taken as evidence of a possible (but not necessarily probable) cause-effect relationship. How ever, by themselves, they would not stand up to statistical scrutiny In predicting a correlation between brief exposure to
k asbestos and the later development of cancer caused by such exposure." ^ (Emphasis added.)
Substantial evidence has been presented here that the commercial use data upon which the petitioner's based their allegations Is substantially higher than that of all other investigators (Including 0$HA compliance inspec tions). It has also been shown that consumer exposures are low, of short duration, and when averaged over a year or mare are not distinguishable from aafclent background. He know of no evidence that Such casual, low exposure represents any hazard so that the question becomes one of a banning action based on the existence of a possible, but not proven risk, which if It exists at all differs only slightly from zero.
You are probably aware, that this question of the regulation of carcinogens is a major Issue today before virtually all of the governmental regulatory agencies. The FDA saccharin ban has received wide publicity and OSHA is deeply involved with a proposal for a generic regulation approach to carcinogens .and hearings on benzene are now in progress. All of this activity does not help to find answers to our Immediate problem, but we are at least In good company.
The problem we face originates In the so-called "one-hit* theory of carclnogenisis. In simplest outline, this theory holds that:3
(3) Briefing Package, February 2, 1977, presented to the Commission by Fracfne Shacter.
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1. A single molecule of a carcinogen Is capable of causing cancer
fn a particularly susceptible person,
2. If enough people are exposed* the susceptible person (or small
number of such persons) will contract cancer. 3. It follows, therefore, that there is no absolutely safe or zero
risk level for a carcinogen and such a material should, depend
ing on the statutory authority of agency involved, be banned*
severely restricted, replaced, controlled to the limits of
detection, etc.
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It Is useful to examine this theory in the light of where there Is
general agreement and where responsible opinions diverge. Ke believe that
virtually all medical authorities would agree:
1. That there Is a wide range of dosages for a carcinogen where a
dose-response relationship exists. The larger the dose, the
greater percentage of these exposed contract cancer and vice
versa.
2. In exposed populations, even at substantial exposure levels,
large proportions of those exposed do not contract cancer.
3. As the dosage goes down the average time to the appearance of
a tumor increases. This principle was illustrated by the extrapolation formula of Enterline and the Bayard modification
discussed previously.
The medical disagreement occurs over what happens as the dosage is decreased to very low levels. There Is one school of thought* and this is embraced by most of the regulatory agencies, that no completely safe level exists. There are other responsible authorities who contend that a dosage level is
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reached where the body's defense mechanisms can effectively combat the altered cells and a cancerous growth does not occur. Supporters of this position cite the low level presence of certain metals and hormones that are essential to the human body in trace amounts but at higher levels are carcinogens.
Unfortunately* there is no way to demonstrate the correctness of either view since there Is a background level of cancer In both man and experimental animal. As the dosage and the corresponding nuaher of cancers decreases one point of view Is that the occasional cancer from the specific agent still occurs but cannot be distinguished from the background noise while the other Is that the added cases do not occur. These views can be partially
* resolved with the model of Enterline discussed previously, i.e, a very low exposure may cause a cancer but the time to tumerls 150 years for exas^leVlth an expected life span of 70 years this, for all practical purposes is a safe threshold exposure, at least until life expectancy approaches 150 years. Since there is no provable scientific answer to this risk question, we are really left with a socio-politeal rather than a scientific decision to consider.
The fundamental question, then, is whether a total absence of risk approach to regulation Is appropriate or more particularly will be acceptable to society, tn ogr lives we undergo a succession of risks, some knowingly and some unknowingly. The American people have always Indicated a willingness to take risks as evidenced by such things as the widespread use of the automobile, smoking, alcohol, improper diet, and even the home as It Is today. We believe that the zero risk concept, when it begins to impact on jobs and the way of Ufa of a substantial number of people will not be acceptable and will have to be modified to balance risks against benefits in a realistic fashion. This Sort of balance rather than regulation by cliche, "Its a carcinogen so ban it", should be applied here. The benefits from the continued use of asbestos in
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tap*-joint compounds is substantial and the risk 1$ either zero or so small
It cannot bo distinguished from zero.
This finishes the risk-benefit discussion and I would like to con-
dude this presentation by pointing out certain practical aspects of enforce*
wot in the Federal Register. These questions were discussed at great length,
and generally were not solved, at the recent meeting In Gaithersburg* KD,
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conducted by the National Bureau of Standards. Since several members of your
staff were present at this meeting, they will only be Indicated briefly.
Since the promulgation of the OSHA asbestos regulations in 1372
there has been a continuing debate on what Is asbestos and what is an asbestos
fiber. Asbestos, when narrowly defined, in a way that will satisfy the most
precise mineralogists is ubiquitous in the atmosphere-although generally It
occurs at very low, but not zero, concentrations. When the definition Is
broadened to include all anphibole chips which are longer than 5 microns and
have a length to diameter ratio greater than 3, you approach a condition aptly
described by Dr, Hslcom Ross of the U.S. Geological Survey at the MBS meeting
just mentioned, of "shutting down the face of the earth". Particles of this
type are everywhere and would contaminate any product containing minerals.
The EPA faced this problem in 1973 in writing emission Standards for
the spraying of asbestos-containing products and decided to treat it by setting
a IX by weight maximum limit. Their reasoning was as follows:
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"The Intent of the 1-percent limit Is to ban the use
of materials which contain significant quantities of asbestos*
but to allow the use of materials which would: (1) Contain
trace amounts of asbestos which occur In numerous natural
Substances, and {2) Include very small quantities of asbestos (less than 1 percent) added to enhance the material's effectiveness.^*
T7"tFfe. Volume 38* No. 56 - Friday. April 6, "1977* p.i8821.
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In ordar for any action by the Comaisslon to be workable and enforceable ft Is absolutely essential that you provide a definition of asbestos" which states exactly what mineral species and what fora of these species are included and specify what particle dimensions constitute an asbestos "fiber". The present definition in the proposal could be applied to the rock that covers much of the surface of the earth. In addition, an analytical procedure and the levels of "Impurities* that are acceptable, as measured by this procedure, must be specified. Without the practical defini tions the ban is virtually universal and completely unworkable.
To conclude this discussion, I would like to summarize the Union Carbide position and expand on the approach presented in my letter of July 14, * 1977, which we believe is a reasonable alternative to the ban proposed by the Commission.
1. The products under consideration have been in widespread use for about 35 years and there is no evidence that apy consumer has ever been harmed by them, Ht> unreasonable risk* to the consumer has been demonstrated by the petitioners or by the staff.
2. Consumer exposure data have been presented which show that the exposures are both low and brief and when averaged over a year are not distinguishable from the general background. The risk from such exposure, if indeed any risk does exist, is extremely small and is based on the extrapolation of an unproven and unproveable theory,
3. We question whether it is appropriate and whether the Act gives the Commission the authority to ban a product on the basis of a hypothetical of theoretical risk on the basis of an absolute 2ero risk requirement.
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4. We do not agree that a reasonable product safety standard cannot be promulgated to protect the public Adequately from any unreasonable risk and recommend the following approach; a. Limit the amount of asbestos that can be used in speckling and taping compounds to two percent by weight in the dry formulation. This Is sufficient to gain the benefits of the use of asbestos and serves to Halt the potential for exposure. It differs from the H of total formulation suggested previously in that it more closely defines the content In the final product to be sanded, ft is also at a level where analysis is more reasonable. b. Require a warning label including proper work procedures on all compounds under the jurisdiction of the commission whether packaged for direct consumer or coamerclal use In consumer contact. This turns to good advantage the widespread public awareness of the possible potential hazards of asbestos to encourage that the product be treated according to directions and not abused. It also gives the vser a choice.
Thank you very much for this opportunity to speak to the Commission. I will be glad to answer any questions you may have or to provide any additional Information we have available.
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