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FILE NAME Quebec Asbestos Mining Association QAMA DATE 1968 Mar 29 DOC QAMA111 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Minutes of the Special Meeting of the QAMA cf . say FR ee ae - Dwr ae meee . rd I TOsN weeney . . Be we tts eee . 90 : 90 90 0 we By | OM el of A. . A. Marily Merritt tt of : Apr 5/89 5/89 Reporter RYLANDSHOL RYLANDSHOL er RYLANDSHOL Sint ' ae . SPECTAL MEETING MEETING "el b- ae aa oe ae tad to Vet a e ana 2h t, @ NY. an 4 Toe CRANO BAHAMA HOTEL AND COUNTRY CLUB C.B. FRIDAY MARCH 29 1968 ra Or. Wright attended the Wright Wright meeting as Chairman the the attended Institute of Environmental . Committes Occupational and Environmental INSTITUTE INSTITUTE OCCUPATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTHEAHLTH Rivasee mont ae ng :efc | fi soep.gas ce odie rn bed ce Tsae se ks a TEN po orumaty ro: aa Sa 2H a = Ss activities of First progress progress za- mine workers workers ree submitted submitted by thet that the work This report indicates indicates schedule with result shead budget budget shead Of budget, result shat As regards regards the Antigua Conference Q.A.M.A. Q.A.M.A. Q.A.M.A. people attendance Total expenditures expenditures to date ? 65,000.00 65,000.00 against of 85,000.00 The charges the proceedings proceedings the printing printing of Confarance Confarance still to procesdings of the come, Confarence are still ta Johns Manville copies which Human Human Coolas of which company , have bean distributed distributed and Have been OLstributad tg avary ; EXHIBIT 4251.0 4251.0 LSLO ets tlen. wih . , 4 C ~ - Sw + percqen, PO nar sien : aaa ya che ay seme! oo ma te > ash. jotta net . naan a eh Stee es . ee Nemec8 eg seh tg OF her a) . i ard " if /; hit The Chairman then asked Counsel to report on his activities es- pecially on his efforts concerning bills 14816 and 5-2854 which are before the House and Senate Public Welfare of the United States Committee on Labour and The meeting was informed that Dr. Selikoff appeared before this committee and used rather strong language concerning the health of workers in the asbestos industry statements misinterpretation if which may well be misleading and not exaggeration inviting Counsel was happy to point out that he had Dr. Selikoff on several occasions and felt been that visiting with the latter had however a genuine desire to get to the core of the problem and in that connection to work more closely with us Dr. Selikoff has quite a front to cope with He of attacks from industry As a feels he sometimes result of his work is the center with insulation workers 18,000 18,000 he is in demand in . | many circles and such circles demand more action on his part J.M. research people mest regu- larly with Dr. Selikoff's team Following a phone call from Dr. Selikoff Counsel accompanied his when the latter Dr. Selikoff appeared before the House Committee on Labour on 8111 14816 tabled by secretary Wirtz This visit to Washington was supposed to be an impromptu Selikoff had however a well prepared statement affair but Dr. Several questions were asked and some damaging comments resulted In view of this Counsel that something should be had found the situation done in Washington He O'Hara Chairman of the Committae and explained to be pressing and had contacted Mr. his position with h vA :#2 2s ] AEs , ~ x te a 4 Y 4 time - the asbestos indcustr Ys the suggesting that industry asbestos industry suggesting suggesting industry a wealth weali th of information which should considered the Committes Committes Te therefore agreed that permitting was therefore that agreed that permitting 5 Counsel would heard heard written submission eee Counsel's presenta- Committee distributed nevertheless made will be Congress at the next taxt taxt meeting e .Ta turn, -the Chairman of the Scientific Tt In turn ( meeting Scientific Committes ~ * was invited ts reported Or, Wr Wright reported the Dr. Wright held its progress of the Scientific Scientific the which progress meeting meeting February At this of McDonald's discussed discussed It progress project was reviewed highly considered that that work commandabla and deserves deserves support accomplished accomplished is out Tt should be this study study provide pointed living living the early information information the asbestos asbestos environment people living in the England, X Ray reading sessions sessions held asbestosis classification classification asbestosis international international recording recording international international work international committee doctors doctors conducted define by agrse attempted attempted define interpretation interpretation of of of group radiological appearance is employees employes A to be held London London England meeting meeting ty ba held just iq Landon, Just C s^' -. fA . Seen creer - Le: Pirin erp isnt cneritererma denen ee ey ohnew cee 1 Ne matNa eigh eee, ae vor nw i8%, ta 62 Dal before the Dresden Confisence In April A report on the metho- dology will then be released this is an accomplishment to be sure Dr. McDonald will also report on his spidiomological survey at the Dresden Maeting His study of Primery Mali- already gnant Tumours of the pleura or Peritonium is in progress Wright explained that it is sometimes cheaper to have certain research projects carried out by competent people in other coun- tries because of certain specific conditions and facilities In this regard the Association is supporting projects of Dr. Vigliani and Dr. Pernis the Committee also proposes to recom- . mend support of a study on a group of shipyard workers Halifax Nova Scotia and a study of Dr. Dumont of the University of Montreal . In the U.S.A. there is a committes of industrial hygianists whose main function is determine standards controlling noxious agents This service determines maximum allowable concentrations The Committee has potent legal standing in theory but not in practice It was emphasized that adequate information is not always available to this Committee for instanca standards for the asbestos industry are not date As a result of the evidence as to crecidalite being # cause of mesothelioma strong pressure has been exerted specially in Crest Britain Dr. Reach replace crocidolite in the manufacture of products wherever possible Crocidalita however should not be singled out The three types of asbestos are in the same boat The situation in the case in South Africa and Creat of crocidolite comes from the experiance Britain In the U.S.A. Dr. Selikoff has reported high incidence using in their trade both of mesothelioma among insulation workers amosite and chrysotils This could mean ... ern e ee 2 that the exclusion of amosite and chrysotile might be asked at soma futura date cannot ignore that with proper circums- tances the same fibrogenesis and malignancy apply to amosite and chrysotila These findi han vegbes en reported by Dr. John Knox in Taxtila Plants in Great Britain Dr. McDonald's study will show the actual situation in the asbestos operations in Quebec In view these findings what are the possible options a No fibre could used . b Customers may decide to use something else c Alter the fibre to a point where it is still saleable but , not injurious | Like in the beryllium industry to contain the material this is possible but highly improbable due to the large utilisation a of fibre To learn the maximum allowable concentration which the working man and the public In Great Britain is safe for this has been sat at 2 particles fibres per cubic centinater The Scientific Committee plans to make an analysis of the last option in a systematic way The Committee has undertaken a survey of areas where research should be done in the field of asbestos and health and the estimates of funds needed in each 8728. There are 4 major areas 1 Studies dealing with the maximum allowable dust concentration ~ in the environment of man 2 Studies dealing with the determinents and mechanisms in the biological action of asbestos fibres in order to interrupt the process 6 ney The lack of study methods possessing sufficient reliability to convince concerned has been a major deterrent to which can- sidetabbluet still Inadequate attention currently is being directed paucity of adequately trained persons willing to devote their energies the problem is a second major deterrent Equally at fault the lack of opportunity for study and insuf- ficiant funds for that purpose characteristic of past years There expect is no reason to that these problems will disappear and adequate information be obtained spontaneously without directed effort The industries involved the workers with their organiza- tions and the government regulating agencies either directly directly or in- opportunities directly might be expected to provide and the funds this purpose Past the experience with for study government agencies gives little reason to hope that they will mount a sus- tained effort and it is doubtful that the workers and their orga- nizations can do sp a broad enough scele This places the burden of developing the necessary information and puttinpgutting into operation the required safeguards directly in the hands of the industries Involved The time appetaor has ve come for a concerted approach - and a vigorous pursuit of the problem - Following President Dr. Wright's presentation it was pointed out by that discussions with people who defended the the tobacco industry he had been told that it had been be carried away by the medical profession McDonald's study Our Association knows of found advisable not to Why not speed up Dr. mesothelioma and this study should tell us of the degree of incidence the President added To prevent snowballing been foreseen that the of research expenditures it cost could be split up three had originally ways a ... \ pemge*e5es-n-s--e nsoS : ee ee <a oe \ er 3Studies dealingwith the reducing of the concentration and wae numbers of inhaled asbestos fibres ee Wer naw le with the sae Studies development 4 dealing with the , and evaluation of methods useud sed inthe preceding considerations The engineering problems area No.3 should 7 itself The danger however is that the job ple having already other assignments be handled by will be given industry to peo- The second area would be partly supported by scientists The cost of an intelligent program could amount to some 500,000.00 - year for an unknown number of years The first area may last ten to fifteen years Presently there are studies being conducted by Dr. McDonald Dr. Vigliani and Dr. Pernis In order to cover manufacturing operations in Quebec the budget should be set at 110,000.00 instead of 80,000.00 over the next two years There is very little information to talk of in the manufacturing -* asbestos products It seems that the industry will have to go theed and conduct studies on textile asbestos tile roofing etc. product manufacturing To this end one needs a population with 20 to 25 years of exposure and some competent scientists nearby In the New Orleans area the cost of such a study would run at 100,000.00 to 110,000.00 for two years and a little less for the next year At Manville New Jersey the cost would be 125,000.00 per year The cost of studies in the first area would s therefore amount of 800,000.00 per year ' eA ET TRT TSS CO OF ... 7 ow a ee ome ee The survey of d^/sired information compiled by the Institute of Occupational and Environmental Health proposes a systematic program for studying problem in such a way as to provide the necessary data for the purposes set forth above is obvitho atuts he areas are related and that there is some overlapping and reduplication There is nothing that has not been expressed before but it seems that a useful purpose- might be served if the areas for study are recorded so that memories can be constantly refreshed and none of the important Factors overlooked Just how this material will be used is not entirely clear at the moment It can act as a scaffolding upon which enlisted research can be structured It may minimizing overlap and reduplication It is hoped assist in that it may assist those who are designing pertinent studies to include the necessary components It may also help to indicate the areas of . study which development would be the most productive in terms of a speedy of safeguards It should give an understanding of the size of the problem and hanca avoid the staging of inadequate attacks The outline proposed may assist in developing an orderly approach and reduce the chance that efforts by popular interests It is apparent too will from be dissipeted such an outling that the several major avenues can be worked upon simultaneously and each component will benefit by integration of effort One.may wonder why there has been a delay in the development of safe practices for using esbestos since its potential for fibrogenesis has been known for fifty years and the suspicion that it might play a rola in neoplasia dates back to 1935. A paucity of knowledge has been and continues to be the major major deterrent for the development of reliable and adequate safeguards This in turn can be traced to several factors to which attention must be directed If tIfh the e goal of safe utilization of the fiber is to be achieved .. . + mote nee TES TEER TAs ALS ree ie e eAee! et toe sie ot ce 8 8 wee MOAR! ee eee soe me 250,000.to Manufacturers 250,000 Government a definite program to obtain support need It was agreed that we is the best and the A.M. government of manufacturers and field Dr. Wright to submit lead the industry in this group to recommendation can of framework to all companies so that a obtaining support copy their advisers This will also help be made by of manufacturers 1,500,000.00 that there was a lack of communication e discussions indicated as to the escalation about the problem especially with Directors Executive Committee of the Possibly the of costs Institute edvised could be enlarged so that all were made also as Suggestions Directors could be better to the sharing of expen- ditures by mining and manufacturing companies explained that several of the Executive Committee The Chairman had been submitted recently a certain number research projects the Scientific Committee but of which had been recommanded by To do so would require not ratified by the Executive Committee budget of the Ins- over an above current an amount of 50,000.00 increase it was proposed by the Chairman to titute Accordingly to 300,000.00 fo present budget of Institute from 249,642.00 to study end 2c- the Executive Committee .1968 This will allow cept some of the projects submitted Adopted e 1. ite TL 1 ry = 8. oO en ed 10 Dresden Meeting - Due to recent regulations of the U.S. Covernment the industry will finance the trio to Crasden of Drs Mancuso Enterline Naylor McDonald Smith and Clark Cooper for a total cost of 4,280.00 These six doctors are presenting papers at the Conference ADJOURNMENT . ADJOURNMENT Their being no further business the meeting was terminated = oe . . a .. Paul Filteau General Manager & ap Secretary or om e erm t*vite +a4 e we me . e. i an eearaees wag aee ah eA eee areas aN a, <2 ele aioe oss = arns AP AES Ttnn ks