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MINUTES
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING NATIONAL PAINT, VARNISH AND LACQUER ASSOCIATION,
Association Headquarters, Washington, D. C. April 16, 1937
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A regular nesting of the Executive Cc-.ni ttae of the Natl r.B.1 "Ei t, Varnish lacquer Association, Tnc. convened st 10: 30 A. ?. Friday, April 1 -.h, 1937, Association Haadqur.rtt-rs, Washington, D. C ., with Chairman "rank L So-! Vv.r/.v
F*- siding. The following v;c-re in attendance:
?. ?!. Carter C. Drtney
0. J. S. de 3run S. C. Dunning
D. W. Figgis
E. D. Griffin L. Hsvey
D. A. Rohr
deLnncoy Kountze S. R. Mat-lack H. A. I.iclum
H. W, Rice C. J. Roh F. L. Sulzberger Ernest T. Trigg W. *. Zintl
Guests
J. E. Ingram
William J. Pitt
H-.irold E. Telus ter
Association Staff
P.euel W. Elton
H. A. Gardner
M. Q. Macdonald
Absent
E. J. Cornish
Wells Martin
(represented by F. M. Carter) R. A. Plumb
J. B. Lord
C. N* Seldlltz j. Heath Tood
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by the Chairnan with a word of welcome to the guests. The Secretary presented letters of regret froa Messrs. J. B. Lord, Tells Martin, and J. Heath Wood, and read the following communication from Dr. R. A. Plumb regarding the labor situation in the Detroit areas
"It appears froa the evidence of today that I nust unfortunately experience the great disappointment in not being able to attend meeting of the Ex ecutive Committee in Washington on Friday of this week. I looked forward to this meeting for some time as I felt our experiences with labor here in Detroit might be interesting information to the members of the'Committee.
"Our plant is located almost midway between the Chrysler Highland Park Plant and the Dodge Hnmtramck Plant. Since the start of the Chrysler sit-down our workmen have been exceedingly restless. Notwithstanding the fact that we made substantial .advances in wages the first of March. In fact the basis of wages which we paid to our employees during the month of March '.mounted to on average of $144 per workman.
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"'hie situation of our company, cs well as Boydell's, Beriy Brothers and
practically all other paint Manufacturers in Detroit, is made diffi cult by
the fr-ct that the Rinshed Mason Company recognized the union some w o :ks
ego, and establish d wages on a basis of a minimum of 75# per hour,
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an average-of around 82# to 83# per hour. The Ditrler Color Con;-an;v i _
though not recognizing the union, adopted the c-r.rze wage schedule ts ?i:.;h.:-d if on.
"About tc-n cays ago Eoydell ore ers effected a lockout, end in th precise to enable the nun to c o brek to work, they settled cn e hourly wngs of 7C#.
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"The majority of our workmen in o>ir Feint, Varnish and Lncqucr Depart-.;cts are members of the union, and we have recognized the -union to the- extent of their membership. Substantially the same situation exists with Berry Brothers, although up to this afternoon they have signed no hc-cognition agreement with the union.
"7>'e received our demands, which run cs high as 96# cn hour, from the socalled bargaining or negotiating committee of the union last week. ?<e had our first meeting with them yesterday afternoon and it was a very unsatjs factory conference.
"Demands were presented to Berry Brothers on Monday of this week, and I believe they have their first nee-ting with the bargaining ccmnitteo sche duled for Saturday of this week.
"V.'e have a further meeting with the bargaining committee and representa tives of the union headquarters tomorrow afternoon, Thursday, and on account of the wide difference in our viewpoints will doubtless be compelled to meet again on Friday, and possibly again on Saturday. At least the situation with me is unfortiuiately so acute and pressing at the present moment that it is just humanly impossible for me to leave Detroit.
"I am greatly disappointed in not only missing the Executive Committee, but had contemplated spending at least a solid day with Mr. Emerson. Just as soon as our situation con be settled, either for the better or worse, I plan to come to Washington, which I hope will be some time next week, as I have several subjects I s j u quite anxious to review with ?4r. Emerson.
"I sincerely hope with your understanding cf the unavoidable condition im pelling me to remain in Detroit, that I nay have your indulgence in excusing me from the meeting on Friday of thi3 week."
(Signed) R. A. Plumb
MIHUTES OF LAST MEETING
The Secretary stated there was no unfinished business left over from the
last meeting not cored for in the agendum of the present meeting. The chairman
stated that inasmuch as a copy of the minutes of the last meeting had been
mailed to each member of the committee the minutes would be approved without
reading if there were no objections. There being no objections, the mlnute3
of the meeting of the Executive Committee of January 27, 1937 were approved
without reading.
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* REPORT OF BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AND OF TREASURER
Mr. C. J. Rah, Chairrain of the Budget and Finance Co-rr.5.tt i, reported that the Committee held a meeting at breakfast this date (April 16, .937) at v.hi:h tine the financial statement of the Association was carefully v: ; .-.c-d.
As Treasurer, Mr. Roh presented a state-men t of income and xper.se for the period from October 1, 1936 to "arch 31, 1937 a:r.d a balance she- "t s^^'vin0" c.: r" liabilities end surplus as of March 31, 1937. (Copy attached), by Mr. Matlack, seconded by Mr. Carter, that the report of the aooreved. Motion carried.
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REPORT OF SCIENTIFIC 6ECTI0N
Dr. Gardner reported that since the first of the year the folio' ng Scienti'"i Section Circulars have been issued:
Circular No. 524 Perilla Planting Experiments of 1936 525 Fhysical Specifications for ftall Paints 526 Mildew Prevention (Fifth Report) 527 Painting Galvanized Iron
523 Painting Brick
529 Abstract of Discussion of Federation Papers 530 Iodine Vrluos of linseed Oil 531 Review of Patents on Synthetic Drying Oils 532 Traffic Paints
Abstract Reviews Nos. 47 and 43
He reported on the work which the Association has done with the Lumber Products-Botter Paint Campaign in revising literature which is being distributed by various lumber associations throughout the United States. He reported on the various meetings he had attended and the results which have now been accomplished in getting this literature on a frir basis that will be acceptable to manufacturers of prepared paints.
President Trigg stated that for approximately two years Association repre sentatives have been discussing with the lumber interests the apparent conflict between white lead and mixed paint as developed by the Better Paint Campaign; he stated that the subject had taken much time and much discussion but that he believed the matter was in good shape now. Mr. Trigg stated that the Lead Institute under the guidance of Mr. Carter had taken a splendid attitude on this entire subject and that Mr. Wormser had taken a constructive view of the subject and had worked with representatives of the paint industry. He stated that Mr. Critchfield, Director of the "Better Paint Campaign", had changed his type of presentation so that now it was devoted entirely to the subject of "better paint". President Trigg stated that Mr. Wormser had asked Dr. Gardner to review a new traveling exhibit to be sent out by the "Better Paint Cam paign" and to make such suggestions for changes as he deemed advisable; he re ported that^Dr. Gardner's suggestions for changes had all been accepted.
Dr. Gardner then reported upon the situation which has developed with the Forest Products Laboratory at Madison, Wisconsin in connection with recomnoaJations which have been proposed by Dr. Brorme for a system of type identification and grading for house paints. Copies of Dr. Browne's report "A System of Type Identification and Grading for House Paint3" were distributed.^.A meeting to discuss this matter with Dr. Brovme has been arranged by President Trigg for
April ^6-27 it Madison, ;.nd will be attended by h. number of prominent paint technologists. Dr. Gardner expressed the belief that Dr. Browne's method of grading is faulty end would do great damage to our industry if -adopted.
In reply to_a question by Mr. Sulnbergc-r os to the otjejti-.-n to the use of
the label suggested by Dr. Erov.no, Dr. Gardner stated that cur irv'x~t:y h: s
always opposed grading of paint -nd that the use of this label would indicate
to the public that all paints cenying the libel would be the s-:ne v^v-raas ir.
rctu-l practice there would be little similarity in the products. Mr. Snlz-
borg.r expressed the opinion that the proposed label night be ;n e'focMivc-
offset to ware 'actionable gracing plans. President T"igg statei t* at Dr.
Browne v.rs of trie cuiniar. that there
/Co many ihrr.ulae in uss in the a.
industry -and that approximately 25 formulae should cover the need.; of the irv'ua i *
Mr. F.ice ashed if this label was supposed to be in the interest of the cor suners ar.d Dr. Gardner replied in the affirmative. Mr. r.ice stated that it seemed to him that the label would bo more confusing to the consumer. He ex pressed the belief that Dr. Browne's paper is ".ore interesting than important and was probably not of enough importance to the industry to oppose the phn.
President Trigg stated that Dr. Browne's paper was just a beginning for b;a "incompatibility idea" and expressed the belief that this "idea" would get no.-bore. He stated tha.t the theory of "incompatibility" is that in order to get set factory' service from paint it is necessary to use the some kind of coating, for each rc-naint job and he stated that the idea of the meeting of paint technicians in Madison is to thoroughly discuss this question.
Dr. Kohr expressed the belief that Dr. Browne's promise that thc-rs are so m:-.ny paint failures that something must be done about it, is wrong.
President Trigg -asked members of the Committee to take home with them the copy of Dr. Browne's paper, study it and send to Dr. Gardnc-r or to himself -ny suggestions which they might care to make. He expressed -agreement with Dr. Kohr in the belief that Dr. Browne is being nisleed as to the seriousness of the situation; he stated that Dr. Browne has lived in an atmosphere of paint failures because he has been inviting reports of paint failures for the past two or two and a helf years end he has stated that 3.n no one instance does he believe failure due to the quality of the paint used.
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Mr. Sulzberger expressed the opinion that Dr. Browne's paper is worthless unless his "compatibility theory" is correct. He suggested a thorough study of the subject jointly by Dr. Browne and hi3 associates and the paint technicians who will be in attendance at the meeting in Madison and then if there is accept ance that the theory is correct the paint industry will find it necessary to do something about it.
Mr. Rice reported that 25 years ago he had purchased an old house on which
the paint had scaled about as badly as any he had ever seen; he stated that the
coats of paint which were nil of the hard type were screpcd end that a soft
type paint v;as used for the repaint job and that there has been no trouble with
the paint job since that tine.
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Dr. Gardner then reported upon his proposed circular on labelling rules; he stated that when this was originally presented at the Hovt-mher meeting, it was suggested that it be held up for further work, with the idea of developing
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a glo^ary of ell terms used in formula labelling. This having been accomplished the circular is now submitted again (copy attached) to the members of the Execu tive Committee for their further consider-:-,t icn. He expressed the belief that definitions of this character, v:ith proper terminology, will, if used, ovoid
much misrepresentation end may in th.e long run t cec-mplish other desireble :ur;:3 o
In answer to r question by Dr. Eohr as to v.-h ether or not this circular right be considered a further step towards standardization, Mr. Sulzberger expressed the opinion that that is a possibility. Mr. Havoy expressed the opinion that it probably would be considered no rare so than what has already been done. Dr. !'ohr expressed the opinion that_it might be better for the industry to appro*, a national lab oiling law._ Mr. H-nvey stated that he did not believe vx t would cover the situation.
President Trigg suggested that this natter be referred back to the Seizr.tx * i
Section Committee for further study rad reference to the next meeting of this
ocremittee. This suggestion was approved.
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Dr. Gardner then reported upon miscellaneous oils. He indicated that at tve present time there are over three and a half million acres of land planted with soybeans. He indicated that the production of tung oil new being pressed in America from the 1936 crop of rood might be in the neighborhood of two million pounds. Ho suggested that m-.ny of the plantings had been seriously injured by frost this year, but nevertheless seme of the more prominent pluiters are substantially increasing their acreage. He referred to the results obtained in the experimental plantings of perillc in 1936, and outlined the campaign for additional planting tests during 1937. He then pointed out the work he has done in connection with chis, a quantity of very fine seed having been received from Mexico. This seed had a germination of 9S<, and was distributed to more than 100 different planters throughout America, and the results that may be
obtained during the summer will be watched with great interest. He suggested that it was his belief that chia would probably prove of over, greater value than perilla, because the seed is probably easier to harvesx and the oil is of even higher iodine number. He suggested that it might be to the benefit of this Association if we were to establish a bureau that would work exclusively upon the introduction of new oil seeds in America, and constantly stimulate the production of such crops in order to make our industry more independent of foreign sources for drying oils. He suggested this bureau might work under the Scientific Section and have a personnel of trained agriculturists who could travel throughout the country, stimulating thi3 work. Graduates of agricultural colleges, who have had four or five years training in the field, might be employed for this purpose. Oils such as soybean, tung, perilla, chip, linseed and others should be given the consideration of such a bureau.
President Trigg stated that wo have a new convert to oil plantings in Past President Herbert Hoover whose son Alan will make seme Perilla plantings of con siderable si2e this year.
Dr. Gardner then pointed out the work he had done in Georgia in assisting to prevent the passage of the Georgia paint bill.
He also- stated that he had purchased some land in shir.gtcn, consisting of
about 18,000 square feet. The lend is in a desirable location overlooking the
river. Ho suggestc-d that he had made the purchr.se as a personal investment,
with the thought in mind that if it was found necessary to move the prz-z-.-nt head
quarters he would make this land available to the Association at the price he
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Mr. Sulzberger sr-id that Dr. Gardner's action in this nattc-r was typical of his rare unselfish spirit and that it vs wort\iy of such co
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President Trigg stated there was nothing new in the situation i moving of national headquarters insofar as he knew. He stated that mo of the President now seems to be one of reduction in activity in the. bu gram and that probably that is the attitude government should trhe; wren cu:-: r.ers is low -- increase government activity; when business is good - .-ecre-. oe g:vorrmont activity.
Pr. Gardner reported up n recent meetings of the American Chemic.'l Sad and of committees of the Arne icon Society for Testing Materials, in 'which he rn active cert.'
AMENDMENT TO NEW YORK ASSOCIATION 5Y-LAWS
The Secretory reported that the New York Paint, Vcrnish and Lacquer Associa tion had presented for approval a recommendation that their Constitution rr.d By laws be amended by the elimination, in Section 1, Article VI of the Constitution and in Section 1, Article VI of the By-laws, of the provision which requires that n.-ndmonts to the Constitution or By-laws "shall only be made with the ap proval of the Executive Committee of the National Paint, Varnish ind Lacquer Association, Inc." Mr. Dunning explained the situation which brought about this proposed amendment to the New York Association regulations a .id suggested that the proposed amendment be not approved. It was moved by Mr. Sice, seconded by Mr. Figgis, that the proposed emandaent to the New York Paint, Varnish and Lacquer Association Constitution and By-laws, eliminating the requirement that amendments to the Constitution and By-laws be approved by the Executive C.m mittce >f the National Association, be disapproved. Motion carried.
CONFt?.FliCE A'lTH PAINTSP3 ON RFSISTRATION LEGISLATION
President Trigg referred to the painter's licensing bills which have been
presented in numerous states, explained the set-up of the Board provided by the
proposed laws to have control ever painting activities and stated that the
Association has vigorously opposed this type of legislation. He reported that
thanks to the good work of the Legislative Committee under the direction of
Mr. Herbert W. Pice as Chairman and to the very effective work of Mr. william
J. Pitt as Vice Chairman of the Committee every measure of this type so far
presented had been defeated with the exception of the bill in the state if
Vi'isccnsin where amendments to the bill had removed most of its objectionable
features.
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President Trigg stated that more measures of this type had been presented thi
year than in any previous year, that the painters' attitude has become beligcrent,
that the Illinois painters' group had advised the manufacturers that they "had
better ley off or else" end that at the annual meeting of the International
Society of Master Painters and Decorators held in Son Antonio, Texas, in February
a resolution had boon passed directing that a letter be addressed to the Na
tional Paint, Varnish and Lacquer Association, requesting this organization to
cease its activities in opposing master painters' license bills and that this
Association do not oppose any legislation proposed by representatives of the
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master painters organization.
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President Trigg steted that on his recent trip to the iTest Co-'.st he ret
Mr. Afman, President of the master painters* organization, end discussed the
entire situation with him. Mr. Afman stated that he was not in coord -tth
many of the bills_cs proposed end suggested that a small group repreeanting
.muff cturrrs' association meet with n s rx 11 group representing the
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association for the - purpose of endeavoring to reach ?. cvmpronise. Mr. Trigg
reported thrt subsequently Mr. Afronn, President of the pointers' r.ss .-oi':i,
Mr. Mars/oll of Boston, Past President of the pointers' association, Mr.
Muinhcid of Bridgeport, Mr. OTcrneJl of Frovidonoe, rnd Mr. G -j-oroc- 3n;--:-t
Business Director of the pr inters' :rg: nirotion, net in
York ith Mr. r
Mart Tv. Rice, Chairman of the legislative C-y.rittc-c- of our .-r.-yri 2* tl.r, "r.
Pitt, Vice-Chairman of the CvmmLttc-e, Mr. Crr-rlcs J. P.oh, Tr-..-eur-cr of .V.?
Aesocintion, Mr. J. E. Ingres of Pittsburgh, Mr. M. Q. Macdonald, 0:rural
Counsel of the Association, and hi.nself.
President Trigg reported that the group was in session all day-and thet while the represent-*?lives of our A.ssDelation felt that nothing reach eon.Vi be ac complished, the group be cone impressed with the thought that in vic.v of changes t; king place in legislation throughout the country possibly sene change night bo desirr-hle in the manufacturers' position regarding painters' lie-one ing cer surasj he stated that the group felt toward the end of the conference thr-t if cone reasonable iuniform registration measure could be agreed upon that it night bn best for all parties concerned.
President Trigg reported that "his year an i rendrjont has beta present a-d t the 'Vise ms in bill which will r.ut teeth back into the nee sure end tisst the p? inters have the backing of union 2r`oor in the state. In Illinois'a really vicious bill has boon prerentod -m.nu organized labor interests ere cooperc ting '--.ith the painters in an effort to have the rsc-r cure r-nacted into law -and it is ''ifficult to determine at this tine what the out:-mo night be. Mr. Trigg stated that the situation offers the possibility thrt bills nay be passed in sons states in spitcof the excellent work bring done by Mr. Pitt end our Legislative Connit tec and that rather thr.n take a chance with radical measures like the proposed Illinois bill the group representing our Assuci- tion believed that sane alteration of ompirns might be advisable. He stated thrt, with the explanation to the painters that the group representing the nmufa-cturers' association had no power to speak for this industry he suggested giving favorable consideration to n measure embracing the following basic thoughts.
(a) Provide for compulsory registration of contracting painters for a nominal fee.
(b) Onit any provision for an Examining Eor.rd.
(c) Make painters license available to any applicant.
(d) Omit any provision for the permanent rovoc-ticn -.>f my license.
(e) Include the ordinary f?ir trade provisions enforced through power to suspend licenses but r.ot revoke them, with snripc.isicn subject to court review (power to hc-cr and suspend being lodged in s -me ;f., rc* priete state agency rr.thc-r than in n painters' board).
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(f) Exempt from its previsions industrial "nd Instituti'ruO. .r inttn nee painting and minting by hvse owners.
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(g) Omit from unfair trads practice provisions reference to the use of "inferior materials", but prohibit substitution of materials without the consent of the owner or his rgont.
These provisions were ell unanimously reproved of by the represent.: t lv-.-s of ' be pointers' organization present at the meeting as representing their ids"-, of uni form, standard licensing legislation.
President Trigg stated that he asked the painters' rears sontatives 'vhv t pa-'.vr
their Association night hove to-get uniform re-gulnti:ns substituted f.r other
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bills presented by state councils. The painters replied that they h: d r.
rutharity but believed they would have sufficient influence to get favorable
-action. They agreed not to discuss the conference in New York until this Execu
tive Committee had hnd an opportunity to consider the proposal. Mr. Trigg re
ported that the committee representing our Association were ur.- nine us in fceliavio?
that this method of handling the question of painters' licensing hills ould be
for the best interests of ell parties concerned, He suggested that if the
Executive Committee approved the program the entire natter should be referred h
to a committee to meet with representatives of the painters' organization to
work out details.
Mr. Rice stated that Mr. Pitt had borne the burden of the Legislative Com mittee work for several years very successfully but that the battle was getting increasingly difficult. He expressed the opinion that manufacturers are not opposed to painters' regulatory me-.sures unless they restrict the use of paint but that in the opinion of the Legislative Committee measures presented to date by pointers' interests would restrict the use of the products of our industiy.
Mr. Rice stated that he had received first hand information on the method of operation in connection with printers' licensing bills when the paintc-rs pre sented their measure in Rhode Island. Ho stated that the painters cnlL.-d upon the dealers -and asked them to back the measure. Mr. Pitt organized another group of interests not directly connected with the paint industry to oprosc the measure. The measure got into committee in the House and ?;?.s lost.
Mr. Rice stated that Mr. O'Donnell of Providence said that the pointers were as much opposed to any restriction to the use of paint as the mrnufecturers rre and claim that their interest in the natter was to build up some protection against cheap paint and gyp printers. Mr. Rice stated that if painters are suc cessful in getting one of their drastic bills adopted in some state it may spread rapidly throughout other states and that the manufacturers should have sene constructive plan of their own to present. Mr. Rice stated thet when he learned about the resolution passed at the annuel meeting of the me star painters in Texas he felt that informal meeting such as the one held by the two sub committees would be of no v*lue, but that he was pleasantly surprised to find that the painters' attitude on that occasion was really constructive -ni that they were willing to accept the proposal cs presented by the committee representing cor Association. He expressed the belief that there is nothing whatsoever in the pro posal which would restrict in any way the use of paint products.
, STATUS OF STATE BILLS
Mr. Pitt presented'the following report on the status of bill3 presented in the various states during 1937:
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Ic va - r-c-t 3; ..4 1. re. Ho use &i
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R. I. - Hester Fainter Bill - iinn C>onmmiitttic-o0 ;y ?.. II.. -- Seca ffffc. id 'rectors
o- rigin Counittee.
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:T- >:os & "lsrsifiad 3ttrir:.r-45 sati-m of Products
'To;i.iuire Labeling - Texrs - Card; "i*c. - Freotred Pts. In Committee;
:irs y.-rk
nd Scr.r.tn - Toxic ?eraovtr3 - Pond."
Hr. Pitt *tsbad th.-t he 3 *r.ly c*r.;`-:rr.f*d r'c out the- Licensing bill in 111 v- -
md the L-*b-.v.ing bill in V.'Loc r.oir.; h.c- on id the ?ornul a Labeling bill in'-Vic-
C-;isin dealt only vith "prepared .>ni:vt" end thet the industry in Wisconsin did
not seem to hove a desire to oppose the bill. Hr. Sulzberger stated that in his
..pinion "prepared paint" would be interpreted to include all paint products vnd
that the -ensure w: uli bo in >.c*t c gmz-ial labeling lav: er.d thst ?r such it
vr.j c metier of notion''! inoar amoc. Pros?dent Trigg stated that there had
beer, no eh'.ire in the Assc.
.n's attitude t.-v-ard this tyre of n s'- sure end
thrt oitheut different in.?truetirns from this committee the Association v-'uld
c-.n+inne to fight the presage _.f the bill.
Hr. Inga- rm S'it' ted th-- 4w he felt there v;es little he could add to v."rif t hod
rcr. dy been ur id. Ho io tha t he h-r d oci-c r.dvfood t::U't the -lueshim of print'
] 1.; : n ging oil Is L\tmd b IK'ht rut the ::`.st i.-ittc r deb"i i t!\.s i r nual :.;ee ting
the I ntornrti ;iv 1 S;-cis
M. st>. r Painters nd Pec*rr. tors end he felt that
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in a tmd ;f re- Ivi *S{1 on c rio*3 3e ated .rcjudics *>f ye vrs standing of -'i-p-'-s iiicn to ail iicens i.ng .03 3:Jr ac iz ml ght be well for mar.ufc .cturer s to try to develo]
fr..rn the position mat licensing legi.slr.li n might be -.if some benefit, some
suggesti ns to bring their ideas an the subject really up to date. Hr.
Ingram stated thr.t he was well impressed by the character of the members of
the painters' representatives end by the fret that these representstives
recognized that a gr o< t number of members of the International Society were of
a different caliber thru themselves; he expressed the belief that they had come
frankly to get a meeting of minds bctvuen painters and manufacturers and he fc-lt
th.it the meeting had been well worthwhile even if it did nothing else than
to bring these two groups closer together. Hr. Ingram st-ted th-at he believed
the interest of the manufacturers really lies in support of seme measure pro
viding a code of foir competition'for master printers rather than in opposition
to nil printer rogistrrtio.n censures; he strted that he believed this cam-
c. it tec should foster end support legislation such as proposed by President
Trigg.
Hr. P.oh-steted that the cute.me of the meeting wr.3 one of ccmpranise on both sides; he stated that the painters clnimcd that Vary did not really >nt the radiccl previsions -f some of the bills.
In answer to r. cumtim by Hr. Sulzberger, Hr. Pitt explained that the i reposition to hrvc r. model bill now under considernti n would not affect the work of the so-called "handy-man".
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It v.is moved by Mr. Kouoitze, seconded by Mr. 'ice, that subject to the Sub committee v.-hich net with representatives of the painters' organisation being strongly of the opinion that the recommendations now made should be adopted and subject further to such uniform painters licensing bill being drafted in such a way that it will not reduce the sale of paint, that said Sub-Committes is h.-r<_-by authorised to work cut the details of such a licensing bill in cooperation with the representatives of the painters' organization. Motion carried.
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Mr. Melum stated that the bill as presented in Illinois is the most inclusive and piohibitive bill introduced in any state, that it includes industrial - an te-re nee and all '-ho paint for wage or compensation and that it provides that a journeyman painter could not secure a lirouse without three y`.a.rs of su _ -or.vtccship; he pointed out that since there is no t pprenticeship r.t the present time and frequently no master painters available this measure would materially de crease the number of master painters. Mr. Sulzberger stated that he believed the bill was so severe it could not be passed. Mr. Pitt stated that the Illinois bill is different from bills presented in other states and that it would ser iously penalize property owners.
' UNFAIR COMPETITION HUR?AU
Mr. "c-bstsr, Chairman of the Unfair Competition Committee, stated that the committee held a meeting in New York recently and discussed thoroughly pi', us for making the work of the Unfair Competition Bureau more effective; he slated that the committee felt it would be advisable- to engage a. mar. to devote his at ire time to the work of the Unfair Competition Bureau under the direction of Mr. .Macdonald and he said that plans were under w--y to engage such a parr:>n.
President Trigg pointed out that the b idgot provides for a reward to be paid to any one furnishing information If'ding to an order by the Federal Tra.de Com mission or to e conviction under anti-bribery legislation. He stated that ho hoped arrangements would be completed in the very near future for the eng.-.gcment of :n individual who would devote his entire time to the- purposes of the Unfair Comoetition Bureau.
Mr. Sulzberger expressed the belief that many people think that the . .-sociation's eheck on unfair competition is dormant and the committee proposes to start rction promptly; he called attention tc the fact that hrr-dquarters of the association is charged with keeping the work of the Unfair Competition Bureau before the members of the industry.
Mr. Roh referred to the f*.ct that formerly when Mr. Macdonald visited various cities he celled on manufacturers tc check or. situations affecting unfair v:mrctition and to invite reports as to suspicions of violations; he expressed the belief that this type of follow-up is very i dvr nteger-us, that it heads off unfair competition, that it is often of as much value to the industry as direct li *s cn violations, end that this kind of contr.ct should bo continued.
Mr. Sulzberger stated that this has rcclly been merely in the nature ..f a
report of progrf ss to the members of this committee for the purpose of < -.'vising
the committee that the Unfair Competition CuV'-itt- c is rcclly goijjg to gc Into
action.
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REPORT ON ?P'K)SKD OIL LaGIST.ATICN
Mr. Macdonald presented the following report cn pr-posed legislation pc-.*.-ing
in Congress:
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"There has been no change in the status of pending oil legislnti-.-n.
"The Knutson Bill (H.F..1955) is before the House fcrcr.ittec- .n 'fays r.d Msans. It proposes c. processing tax of 6 per pound on P trill-:., Heaps:c-d, Rxposesd, Sesame, Pp.3e , P**lis Kernel, Kapokseed Oils, end i-portod Co-itsr.sec d rnd Sunflower 0i3s.
"It else proposes c.n excise tax of if par pound an imported Soybean Oil, in addition tc the tariff of
"The cr.-or-ssing too: of 6<* :-n peri 11s end the ether oils listed f .-r c
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processing tax v:c-ild be in addition to the hyd excise b-x inpcscd 1- et
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"No o-.tter.pt he3 been node so far to push this bill to c. hearing and There fore nothing has been done tc oppose it actively. It seemed prudent not to make- it r-n issue- `*rd develop or. active interest on the pert of aa: rs of the c'scni ttoe not yet interested. On the other hand, in coop- rot-ion with the Linolcua Induetiy and the Bureau of ?,,-.w J'ete-rif Is for A frican Vopc-t: clo Oils rnd Hats Industrie**, material rcr briefs end oth.u- n: of opposition. h: s be--:-, gatherer, .and con bo prc-p'.red on short r.^aicc.
"In : dditicn tc the h'v-t'er. till there have been : nu-ibc-r of reps tc + ** ef<\ of th: t the- fl- r -j.rv..-j ng interests v.ir.h to pat fl* xre od irport tiens on .a quota basis. These p 'cpo.sols h'vc- nee Ve-t O'ken the for.T of bills. Th--.ro is e ,<rsui^ililb.ee at+..-...pt v-ill be ,n-dc- to avoid the r.c-.-c ssity of in-.rodi airp bi 11 -'-.id iv vlng r hearing, by offering an r-nend.-arnt to the sugar quota logiplr.tVcn, me this legislation is th-.-refora being ched vc i*y carefully.
"Because >'i the fact that a restriction or the importation of flaxseed by means of s quote ..rule ber-.r heavily on Argentina tad probably destroy any chance of argotinting a tr-'do cg'-emtnt with th-t country, a r.oi r.nue on domestic production read access'ry d eports, r.n-.i the effect of higher prices of oil were filed with the State r-epF-rt7ie.it by our industry and by the Linoleum 3i~nu.fr.ctur,,-rs whose- interests arc similar.
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"When the excise t*ix of 6i was imposed Inst year on peri11a end ofrser riiy-
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ing oils, a tax of 2d per pound, was pieced on the various seeds regard- *^i_'
less of their oil content, inis result:; in higher cost of those oils
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when the seeds are crushed here than v:hc.n the oil itself is imported.
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"Although it appears unlikely thrt Congress will take up the se excise- t: ::es this session, r.-pri sentntions Fro being made to the Com it toe pointing out the effect of thufc wnqeual rater., and particularly their effect or. domestic le.ber.
"Sc-.iator Pucscll of Georgia end Congressman Colrer of Mississippi have- both proposed the establishment of an experiment station for the d.,vclc.x;x-nt of v'-rioties of tang trees of dependable ;roouc.t::viby.
"It is believed tkr-t the cost of this project maid be or** 11 : s ik-ro is n
small experiment station of the Depoi tme-nt of /.gib culture flamuy
located in the Pe-rl F-ivc-r district of i.ii:--sissippi, and some 30,COO
ceres of tung trees in Mississippi and Louisiana, available for cbs^iva-
tion.
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"Senator Eilbo of Mississippi hrs introduced c bill which provides, c;.jng
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othfifT things, for the development of new uses for tung nuts end tung hulls. This is less likely to rc-ec-ivc consideration then the F.ucsell-Colmer proposal.
:"'r. Fulmer of South Caroline has introduced H. R. 5313 authorising the dir ector 'f the Census to collect end publish monthly statistics ecnceming the quantities of soybeans, flaxseed, sescme, hempsend, and other oil seeds received ::t the oil mills, the quantities shipped, held at the mills, etc. This has be en referred to the C'mmittcc on the Census. No rctic.n h-- s b-*n
V.'m; ti.:.e fr - ^ i. he subji *'f i.'vi.ng oil s, :>ero i a.-n- j^ng v bill (H. R.
5362 - Fill) c ---S i utherifs.- the Fecrotarj* of '> r to cell, Men, .r jive to
centre ot:'.*s ?:jid -rivr to firms sr`.e'cs uf sucolics to be :::rnufoctured for -' r. - V * m- - 'its -.ny be ` f c .msi^tr-1 bio r so;strnce to th ose v;ho wish to bid such Covemr. .-r.t -nxrr- cts."
Fre'icVnt Trigg ref# ired tc r. r.-port prep: rc-d bp :.ir. "ccdrn-ld os r. ekfire in the Sto.t ' D.q-c rtoont t-c : ::y : tt-.mpt tc place flax on a quota l-csis. Gt.e c-. up attached "Memcrr-nduir. For St: to Do ;t rtment St gar ding 2-l.:.s-**d ;.nd Lins red oil Sub mitted by N: xi r.cl ?. ! nt, ?*m* ?* t nd L-cqncr Asscci'-ti-on."
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Mr. flov-.y reques'*< 1 hr. * cd.r-la'o -pini-'n on the cud orrt of the Federal
o : -v.-isai '-iiT n
1, . ,'g cast the Pi;- Ingham Iron Fiq-e Ass ci'ci-*n. Mr.
Me cur. avid st-t-M that the- a o me .a r ion o' the o. mol; int ctf-.rr-.d tc sc. med tc
lop- the-
r.lnt i'n.o-r th . i.st :*.-Fr trstn Act -n the oho ry th'-t ns., n -.its
hod used bo.oic point sys^vn f bioti-`h uti or.. Tc stated t'vst it prebr'-ly . old
becone time before the cc.mpl'- Int is re- c t 'C -..rd tc.;ti-:--v is token cud it is
ciff icult to see 'vh-1 the'-it: me- ri-Jrt b-oj he- v.q ro-ssrd the belief that b* sic '
point Ivgislrti'-n -ill ttnvt v.rp .v:do interest.
Mr. Figgis enpresred the belief that seme definite legislation on the sub.n-et / of "'music .. oir.b syctc-m o di str'ib'0-t.l n" wi1! be -nacted Vmfcme vc-i'v long.
Mr. Havey Muted th;.t M'.m.iuins of this t.pe really vim at delivered prices end have a tendency tc lir.i t m nux'rctururs to distribution in that : rer which they c?n best service.
In answer to r quicstion Mr. Macdonald st-ted that ehere v;es nothing new e t the / pr-.oent time on the prr:oposed P; tn-n Mils :n "reciprocity*' end ''distribution by * .T-nufacturors in competition with thMr cusMraers".
IhT-JSTRll.L DIVISION
In answer to a question bp Ohoi.vm Sulzberger Mr. dtBrun, nenbe-r cf the Industrial Division Advisory 3^rrd, staled that be believed industrial m muf'cturi.ra in the industry wtre well ..Im.srJ with the type 'f ciiviti-.s being c-mric-d on by the national f.s'oci. tier..
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ctsReferring back to the v-nt?
v.hlch have been developed in the lrmb.-r int*r-
c-sts and the print intc-res+s, Tr^cidi-nt Trigg stated tint conditions surrounding
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the "Better PMnt Campaign" h-: q .mu* be : mv;] epod tc tr.a point vhere l:e c.-mri 3 .red 0(\
it .might be der.irubls to hove the licti -nal Paint, Varnish end Lacquer Association \ JC* '
join with other interests In si ensuring the ermprign, rr.d suggested ?p-r rj v c I,
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subject to the officers being catisfi. d with
developments. On notion
duly seconded the officers <'f the >: scociuti-'m verc r-vtborized.
subse^uewt^.
SEMI-ANNUAL REPORT OF FACTORY EMPLOYEES
/ President Trigg referred to a "Zone Summery of Semi-Annual Report on Factory Employees" presenting minimum mage figui'es only, a copy of which was placed in the hands of each member of the committee, and stated that in this consolidated report only minimum wage figures were used so that the tendency would be to lift
.-dr.ir.uns rather then to pull down msjcimums; he expressed the opinion that while every factory should have a miniroom wage for every job, maximum wages should
relate themsc-lvcs to the skill and real vr-lue of the workman effected. He ex
plained the make-up of this c. nsoiidr.tc'd report end expressed the hope thst c-ch m.mbor of the cyo.Zm-:mititttece would send in thhe- information requested in the cuestier.-
Lrc- ui "Si-.i-A.nr.uei Rse.pport c.n 77rrct *-ry -ocluyeas" if they hoc not alr^.-: iy c..r.m to s r. r.~o + i,r. 1y :-'r . IV un g. President Trigg advised tb'f ' ' Siblr; to use cigh tec r.v
in+ed out thst in s t lens rate raid zo a wa? 2!' 1'*' on who vc s in fact j pensior
m to 0 u as tin by Mr . Hair
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could bo confined to local interests and ht expressed the belief that in future
r..port3 it might be rdvi.31.hl3 to cart the consolidated report. Mr. Kounu-e ex
pressed the belief that the report 'rs good in tocrrl situations but should net
be used for nctior.nl distribution. ~r. 1 hr expressed the belief what the report
had served its purpose r.d at; A ?n ho did ..et son a need for its repetitionr.. .Mr
Sulzberger stated that- it tep.>:red oc be tbs opinion of the majority of the com- /
mittc-e that "son-*, reports -.n facto .y employees" be continued but that the
nut i on* 1 d 1 s tr.ibut i .n .2 e^r.su 1 x.dried rc-i ort be discontinued.
Biff yrpic VOPLD'S 7ATP.
Mr. Ingram report0 that the Rurenu ir. charge rf the New York World's Fair Exhibit:; is inviting industry groups to enter industry exhibits as r. vh . In.; he stated that if the ;o in? '.ncu.otry planned to ent<..-r 0 paint exhibit in the "uv: Y.r
rid's Fair it o'uld hive n defirite bearing on the -.xt.-.nt to which individual -( nufacturers would c.'-.n.- to exhibit. Hr. Sul.zb ergor reported that the ::rtter hrs not been previ jurly presented to the Executive Committee for consideration in connection with the Hew Y ,rk World's Fair, but thst it was last con sidered in connection with the Chicago World's Fair and was turned down .n ac count of the c:-st involved# Following nn informal discussion of the subject it was the sense of the committee that the matter be left in the hands jf the
President.
RATIFICATION OF \KaAhOS-iENTS -- 1937 COHVBITIOM
Mr. Sulzberger reported that in accordance with instructions given by the Executive Ccaoittee a subcommittee consisting of Messrs. Rice, Trigg and Sulz berger had considered all invitations in connection with the site of the* 1937 convention and had finelly selected the city of Cincinnati. He stated trr.t the 0. r-mittoa did not feel that the/ wore establishing any precedent in selecting Cincinnati and that thoy fell that it would he inadvisable to have the c n\a.ntiun "knocked Dr u% gcrgvrpniciily". fie stated th.ut the crnmlttee Pelt lint the routine *f holding ..-nvcntivns in Chicago, Washington, :.nd possibly hew Y.rk should be me intoinc-d with only cn occasional cxc-.pti-.n.
It was m ved by Mr. Havcy, s-.c><nied by Hr. Meliva, that the action -f the -m.m-ittee in selecting the city of Cincinnati : s the site for the 1937 convention and in designating the Nothcrlend Plazc H tel as .convention headquarter? b* opproved. H-.-tiun carried.
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The Secretary presented the following list of firras from whom for .r.cr.ijcrship lnd been received:
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BENJAMIN MOSS PAINT COMPANY 1131 Ninth Street, ?7. T- shingto.a, D. C.
Paul Stein
ANY .a -ii
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MASON CAN COMPANY Dexter R-^rd Post Providence-,* ?.. I. Mr. m. Q ropertz
STAR BROS-! lit* UFACTUPINC* CO., Inc. A *-OS 30th ?L- ce Ten? 13lend City, H. Y. Mr. P. K. Thr-.'-cki-.rton
It 7.7 s :-vt:d by I!: referred t; he elected
>-tl- ok, seconded by Mr. Figgis, that tlie four firr.s '.c oh. rchi 0 in th.. clr-ssific&.ti :n ns indicated, M lion
The Secrete ry presented the frllc.:<3r.g li*?! firns, the cmeclla ti m :f
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by the Membership Committee:
An-'r:.'.. "i---vn C r..v.*ny C'-.t . hfcqutr C-.npr.ny J vhn P. Cc-chrnn Cnrcp-'ny (B) Detroit- Pex Products Co. Fed err 1 Composition t Print Co. Foi-bes Vrrnish Coaptiiy The Hole 4 H-'lnes Company Lincoln C'ls nine Co., Inc.* (E) E. U. Ljfjrn Glr.ss & Point Co. Th aos C. aloe Company August Mill.-r S--n G. J. Nikolas & Company P^i'ker, Frsstor. 4 Co., Inc. Quaker Paint Products Co. H. S. Foocall * Co. Rod Circle Paint Px-cducts Red :l nd Compositions Reliable Faint Ccupany Fisinp Gun Cclor "orks (B) Smith 4 Dunn, Inc. Ff-:dk. A. Streoer.-Router, Ir.c. Superior 1'aint " lecquer ft">rV,3 Tamms Silica Co. Technical Color - Chewier 1 dorks Vcstorn States Lcc~uer C.np: ny
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Los Angeles, Calif. Alhambra, Cr.lif. Cleveland, Ohio
Detroit, Mich. New York, N. Y. Cleveland, Ohio Cleveland, Ohio Brooklyn, N. Y. Billings, Mont. Woonsocket, R. I.
Baltimore, Md. Chicago, 111. Norwich, Conn. Philadelphia, Pc. San Francisco, Calif. Brooklyn, N. Y. Maw York, S. Y. Louisville, K/. Philadclohir, Pa. Ns .mark, N. J. Chicago, III.
T.os Angeles, Crlif. Chic:go, 111. Chic*-.go, 111. L'cyv;ond, Calif.
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it '.vas moved by inr. Kelim, seconded by Dr. Ko>!ir, that the ccncella'i in OI the atabarshins referred tc bs epnrovod. Motion carried.
The Secretory reported th?.t the Budget end Finance Cc-r.nittse at its coat ing this aorning* authorized the writc-aff of the accounts charged s-tiinst the follov.ing concerns:
C:z L: eque-r Ccr.p^ny Hurhnr P^int Products Co. rising F-ui Color -Voo'ks Smith v ourn, Inn. Technical Color i* Cher.iocl orks uostern States L-ccuer Co.
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By gv.-r.vrcl consent the selection of tine nd place for the 'Hxt no of the- Executive Committee .v-s c l i- r.to th Ch--ijr~:.n of th Ctr.a! vtcthe Frcsidr :it.
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