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T. Marmor
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1 increasilnjgly had to take into account first
2 asbestosiS, second, cancer andthirdly.
3 mesothelioma.
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4 My judgment Is that in theearly
5 1960s, '62, '63, '64;-tberetWasn'tanydoubt
6 that balancing was important ifyi>u weregoing"
7 to continue; The Only justification you could
8 have for going.forward is that youhave ways of
9 restricting prolonged exposure below ascertain:
10 level that would-not yield; given the science :
11 of the day, likely.'harms topeoplewho worked
12 for long: periods of time with asbestos;
13 Q. Is asbestos a miracle product, in -
14 yoUropinion,becau3e it'sversatile or'is'
15 asbestos a miracle product,'in yohr'Opinion;:
16 becauseit some howprotects life? -
17 A. No, the miracle I'm thinking
18 about is not protecting life; :It's the variety
19 of useful applications' of this for many; many
20 different purposes?and extraordinary desire to
21 use it by lots and lots of parties, whichis
22 typical of lotS of innovation, discoveries, new
23 discovered applications;
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24 Qt; -Y'our staterrienlthatit'-sa
25 miracle, your statement would be the same even
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1 Those are the three. Now, 2 there's a lot more detailed examples of it, but 3 those are the three areas. 4 Q. Give me the detail examples in 5 the toxicology reports which lead you to : 6 believe that there were candid statements of 7 the dangers of asbestos at the time. 8 A; Well, the toxicology reports 9 comment on and describes the well-known fact 10 that prolonged exposure to asbestos is 11 associated with asbestosis and cancer. They 12 raise the question about mesothelioma in 1964, 13 I believe, and some years later give more 14 attention to it. 15 There is an example where the 16 science and the conclusions were not settled in 17 the earlier period, but later on in thC decade, 18 they were candid about the possibility that 19 this was associated with asbestos as well, even ' 20 though there was a lot Of controversy about it. 21 but I read in> the literature. 22 Describing their product was one 23 that had great properties,Indeed celebrating 24 their product, at the same time saying the only 25 way it can be used properly without danger is
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1 if it wasn't fire retardant, it would still be
2 a miracle product?
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3 A. Mfraclepr6dnct'iti''the,sense0f
4 muItiple-riSes yesired by many pedple at the '
5 cost in the period thatT>wa$ talking about.
6 Q-;: Tell me what you know
7 specffically about Union Carbide's effbrts in -
8 this balancing act you'vedescribed>between the; -
9 use of asbestos and its harm's? Sts potential
10 harm. oiS; c-*
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11 ' Av WhatT 'know^abou'ttethat the
12 toxicology reports ate Candid Statements iff - '
13 some'of'the'risks of prolonged'exposure to '
14 asbestos;
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15 Two, that the sales reports shoW;
16 that Union Carbide is prepared tdhelp with
17 teSt'Ing and-SUggestions about and giving their
18 customers information about hoW it is that they
19 can control the amount of dust'that gets ^ '
20 that's breathed by workers and among their
21 customersj'ahd indeed on'their Own; and*
22 thirdly; theattention they paid' theUiselVes to
23 examining their Own workers and inaking sure
24 that the conditions in the mining were'Ones
25 that were by the standards of day Careful.
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1 that there is controls >of the amount of dust 2 that's inhaled, and that their own process. I 3 particularly'think about thepelleting,the 4 turning of it into pellets, as an example of . 5 what they used to describe their own 6 innovations to make it less likely that dust 7 was going to be the problem that it's been in 8 so many other kinds ofcontacts. 9 MS, ROSENBERG: Since Dri Marmor 10 testified about these documents before. 11 during the break, I had copies of them 12 made. Ifit will speed things along; I 13 can provide thdm to you. 14 They're all, as I said'before, on 15 the Union Carbide exhibit list. lean 16 tell you which ones they are, if that 17 will help you out. If you prefer, I can 18 hand them over to you now. 19 I also have copies of the 20 deposition transcripts that he mentioned 21 before. 22 MR. G1ANARIS: I understand that. 23 That's fine. I don't want to sit here ' 24 and read toxicology, reports now. I 25 would have read them previously if I '
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