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FILE NAME: Asbestos Mining (ASMI)
DATE: 1975 Mar 20
DOC#: ASMI038
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Newspaper Article - Asbestos Clinic Let Sick Men Work
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TiiHTFOFJ) MINES -- Hectors is i:o
o p c r a l e d n c!1^:-e fer the n^beelos
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ctid ret n!v.ass inform v.orkers suffer-
irg frc:n arbrstosis of the full extent
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In acumen. the. often p . r m in r d
ee employees to ecn'.T.JC work;;:?
t!1 M*cas dangerous to their lie.dll'
i Jiht t i n n r e f e r 1:g 'a-in to the \\orKmen s Compensation Hoard
Th? d im e records v . : e sobicct 'o
:rmn-. d m ln on bin. i;ntd iy,'2. tbe m?p<. for w, Or Paul C a iticr. the same man emploie:! n the ton-
;m lOj'j until 1. it ''IUT I'J the d u n e
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Montreal Star he had permitted 'ick workers to remain in the mtr.es and mills sears after he had ob served symptoms of asbestosis "liecause the men didn't want to be r e p o r t e d ill and be transferred to lower pay mg jot
Cartier said ho did this because he thought " it was in the best interest of the workers" and was not, as union
leaders haie claimed, told to do it by his employeis in older to sa ie them compensation settlements. *-
The companies also deny any col lusion. V/. \V. Oughtrcd. rreda^m r,f Asbestos Coip., largest <; i\-> fn ir Thetford Mines asbestos companies, says he knew " little or nothing of how the clinic operated.''
" V/c just set up the clinic because
the government asked us to. but we stayed at arm 's distance fiom it and never interfered with its operation. We just 'aid the bills.''
Had the sick men cecn sent to the compensation board and awarded dis ability payments, the c o m p a n i c s would have been r e q u i r e d to pay lump sum premiums to the govern ment of between Jj.CCO and 75,OCO
for each worker, depending on r and degree of disability.
At present, 215 T h e t f o r d Mir workers are receiving comoensM' for asbestos-related diseases. Accc. mg to figures supplied by the Coni: er.ition of National Trade Union r. The Quebec Federation of Labor, ! two labor organizations to which lc:
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lh c central figure tn (lie cu rren t controversy surrounding h e a lf
har.ards faced by asbestos w orkers in Thctford Mines is a G7-ycar-ol
doctor whose policy was " to do as m uch good for the w orkers as po
sible without harming them ."
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, r'aul Cm tier, who operated on this principle when directe. cf ti:c comprnos' clinic which <hcchcd
v.eikcis for powblc nal o-teviclotcd
h;r;; ailments. admits !;e did not insist i,mt a.iected wcikcrs leave tarir jobs
and seek v.oi Lilian's cw;; penan lien benefits.
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Dr. Cartier, who ran the ( !:n`.e from 1CJ0 until lx 1 year, n y i he Tried to (to ni\ h"-! !o t I a-" -n "
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EOW SWEET TT IS! Tireo-ycsw Jd Chsr.tal Morcoit of SL Chrysosteme had ber first .taste of maple E5'rcP yesterday and. oh boy. what a reaction. The sap is flowing fast in the rural areas around Montreal and staff photographer Ron
Yuli lock a trip yesterday to capture the flavor on film A is coming to the aid of the maple syrup fanner -- buckets areVein out and
plastic hoses are coming in. The pictures and story on P a g c C - i* d
Brooklyn woman refuses kind offers.
miei dignity ummmrred by'Sms
By TEEVOS R0X7E Jennifer Fern] has lost her life sav ings cl ?1,750 but she hasn't lest her. uiet dignity. The _75-ycar-cld Brooklyn. N'.Y., Woman came to Montreal Sunday to visit her sister whose husband had
recently died. She planned to give her sister th money to help pay funeral expenses.
But she lost the money .when she left it in a taxi she h2d taken from' the bus station on Bcrri street to her sister's apartment et 4S5Q Plamondon Ave. off Cote es Neiges.
She has oGered a 5500 reward for the return of her purse which, along with the money, contained her citi z e n s h i p papers and keys to her Brooklyn apartment. So far she has heard nothing.
She said that she still worries about having lost the money and though she realizes she shouldn't, she just can't help it.
In response to an article in The Mo.'v te a i. Stab, she has been con tacted By several individuals and or ganizations who volunteered both fi
nancial aid and sympathetic advice. \
However, though she and her sister,
Rose Lemcovitch, are ill, she has
declined all offers of financial assist
ance.
`'People offered me money, good
people in Montreal, but 1 refused it.
I've never wanted anything from any
body, 1 just wanted to support my
self," she said.
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" I 've been a widow for 40 years
but 1 never wanted anybody to do a
favor for me when I could work and
pay my way. I live alone in a one-
room apartment in New York and whatever I've* got is good enough."
"I have a small government pen sion and I'll make do, or I'll make it do. Maybe it's just that I'm so selfish that I don't want any help." ,,
Though she is unwilling to accept help she is always willing to give it, especially to her widowed sister.
" When you get o l d e r you need each other and have to help each other. Right now both of us arc ill, we're two broken up pcopie, hut what little we have is good enough. "
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1 k>cen tral fig u re in the cu rren t controversy su rro u n d in g hen
faced by asbestos workers in T hetford M ines is a 67-year-c
doctor whose policy was " to do as much good fo r the w orkers as p
sible without harm ing them ."
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Paul C artier, who operated on this principle when direcl
of the companies' clinic which checked workers for possible asbestos-related lung' ailments, admits he did not insist that affected workers leave their jobs and seek workman's compensation benefits.
Dr. Cartier, who ran the clinic
from 1940. until last year, says he
"tried to do my best: to be human."
" When a worker came to me and
I saw from his x-rays that he had
slight abnormalities in his lungs, I
told him, in an effort to be as hu
manitarian as possible: `Look, you've
got the slight beginnings of a lung
problem. Now. are you happy at your
job? Do you want to stay there? Or do
you wish to apply for compensation
a n d . be transferred elsewhere, in the
plant? If you stay where you are it
won't affect your condition that much
and if you become incapacitated you
can always apply for compensation
then.' " Even if they had left their work
Dr. Paul Cartier
c o m p l e t e l y and gone on to drive
cabs, for instance- it might not have
arrested the progressive effects.of as-
bestosis.
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"So I figured it was in their best interests to stay at their jobs. Be sides, they didn't want to be reported ill and transferred to a lower-paying
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job where they might have earned as much as 550 less a week. '
"And if I had reported them ill and brought about their transfer to
after strike
lower-paying jobs, the unions would have lodged grievances and the work ers would have been reinstated to
settlement
their former jobs anyway."
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Cartier says it is "still debatable"
whether asbestosis would have sub
sided in a patient who was removed
from an asbestos-polluted environ
ment the minute the disease was di
agnosed.
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"From what modem m e d i c i n e
The mail was moving normc! around the country today but an |enc mous backlog of export grain remains .o be tackled following a tentath settlement of the wage dispute fly brought on more than a month of r volving strikes.
knows about the disease, there ap pears to be a slight progression even after contact with asbestos fibres has ceased."
While first reaction to last night settlement was mixed among unic members, a survey across the count:
,indlcaj ^ . tte t generally men
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r> '- ta ! Morcc't rf St. O-rynesDnse had ccJ, eh bev, .-.bat a reaction. The r-p
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Yuli took a trip yesterday to capture the Haver m fPm. Ac v, - '.I, re~/ teeb'-ria^y is coming to the aid of the maple syrup farmer -- bucket ere cerig rrd
plastic hoses are coming in. The pictures end :.''-ry on Pago C-l.
v.cikcrs fcr pc.riblc a.sl.cstes-relnted lue;; a.ilmcri.s, admits lie did net insist that affected vtg beri. leave their jobs and seek scoi aiian' r> compensation
benefits.
Dr. Cartier, v. bo ran the (.linfe frein 1010 unti! Irci ynir, nayrj he
"trin i to do niy beat; to he human " `'Y.'hen a v.orkcr carni' to ni" ar.d
I ssr.v frem his x-rays t' at h.c Itati chglit abr.o:--r ' r ' ; in i h.ngs, I tolti bini, in an <rieri to he co hu-
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Jennifer Ferril Las last h-r 'ife sav
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quiet dignity.
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The 75-ycar-old Brooklyn, N .V ,
yrcman came to Montreal Sunday to
visit her sister whose husband had
recently died. She planned to give her
sister th money to help pay funeral
expenses-
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But she lost the money .when she
left it in a taxi she h.2d taken from the bus station on Bern street to her
sister's apartment et 4S5QPlamondon
Ave. off Cote & Neiges.
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POLICE W.QLTRY: T h e Quebec Pelic" Commission inquiry into the c o n d u c t cf MUC Deputy Police Director Andre Guay will be re opened by April 15. Page A-3.
LAEOIt PROTEST: Speaker JeanNod Lavoie says he will investigate charges that union leaders were de nied access to the national assem bly during a demonstration. Page A-5.
FRAUD CHARGED: Sis, U.S. oil companies have been ir.uictcd by a
She has offered a 5500 reward for the return of her purse which, along with the money, contained her citiz c ii s h l p papers and ke>s to her Brooklyn apartment. So far she has
heard nothing She said that she still worries about
having lost the money and though she realizes she shouldn't, she just can t
help it. In response to an article in Th e
Montreal St a r , she has been con tacted By several individuals and or ganizations who volunteered both fi
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By TERENCE MOORE Star Staff Reporter
QUEBEC -- The provincial gov ernment yesterday proposed a onethird increase in the drop rate and mileage charges of Montreal taxis.
The proposal, however, is subject to h e a r i n g s and a ruling by the Quebec Transport Commission. It rec ommends that the Montreal drop rate be increased to 80 cents from 60 and the milease rate to 80 cents a mile
nancial aid and sympathetic advice. \
However, though she and her sister,
Hose Lemcovitch, are ill, she has
declined all offers of financial assist
ance. " People offered me money, good
people in Montreal, but I refused it.
I've never wanted anything from any
body, I just wanted to support my
self," she said.
" I've been a widow for 40 years
but I never wanted anybody to do a
favor for me when I could work and
pay my way. I live alone in a one-
H earings to he held .
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Berthiaume explained that rates were already set at the maximum to many regions and that general inflation jus
tifies higher ceilings.
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The provincial cabinet by the reg ulation sets the range of permissible taxi rates for different areas of the " province in order " to protect the pub-
ream apartment in New York and whatever I've' got is good enough."
"I have a small government pen sion and I'll make c!o, cr I'll make it do. Maybe it's just that I'm so selfish that I don't want any help." ,
Though she is unwilling to accept help she is always willing to give it, especially to her widowed sister.
" When you get o l d e r you need each other and have to help each other. Right now both of us are ill, we're two broken up people, but what little we have is good enough."
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lic interest," said Berthiaume. The transport commission c o u l d
not be given complete latitude in set ting taxi rates because its basic task is simply to issue-permits.
The draft regulation will be a sub
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sides, they didn't want to be reported
ill and transferred to a lower-paying
job where they might have earned as
much as 550 less a week. `
" Ar.d if I had reported them ill
and brought about their transfer to
lower-paying jobs, the unions would
have lodged grievances and the work
ers would have been reinstated to
their former jobs anyway."
Cartier says it is " still debatable"
whether asbestosis would have sub
sided in a patieht who was removed
from an asbestos-polluted environ
ment the minute the disease was di
agnosed.
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"From what modem m e d i c i n e
knows about the disease, there ap
pears to be a slight progression even
after contact with asbestos fibres has
ceased." He admits there were "a few un
fortunate incidents" involving workers
who died a few months after receiv
ing a clean bill of health from his
clinic.
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" But most of these deaths seemed
to be the result of heart problems,
wh.eh m ay' or may not have been
connected to lung ailments."
Cartier says, however, that when a
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The mail was moving norma!
around the country today but an cnc
mous backlog of export grain remain',
to be tackled following a tentat!1,
settlement of the wage dispute th-
brought on more than a month of r
volving strikes.
While first reaction to last night
settlement was mixed among unto
members, a survey across the count;
today indicated that generally men
bers of the Public Service Alliance c.
Canada (PSAC) were back on the Job.
However in Thunder Bay the V
grain weighmen and samplers vote
unanimously to reject the tentatto
contract settlement and will confirm
their strike at the Thunder Bay_ te;
minals.
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The post office also faced ancih-
--though' lesser--problem in a unto
" ban the postal code day" called fc
today.' But a departmental epokesznr
said this was not expected to mob'
much trouble.
Ths tentative settlement of t '
strikes, arrived at through medlatkr
would provide the 12,609 PSAC met,
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THURSDAY, M ARCH 20, 7275
7Q7 Hi year; No. 67
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THETFODD MINES - Doctor, ho
o p e r a t e d a clime fer the asbestos
rang-nics ' ::: have
tied `0 ,
ct;d net raw avs inform v, orkers suffer
ing frcin a:bestows of the full extent
of their iii- ~s
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In addition. the;, often permitted theeo cmplcvccs to continue work;;::;
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m areas dangerous to their lieatt.h lather ti tan refernng t nun to the
Workmen 's Compensation Hoard
The ci mic records vu''e ?.;b]oct 'o
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the nipp-t .for us Dr i'aul Cartier.
the same man cmploved Tv the com
pomes ft cm 19 to until last
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head the) r clinic
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Cartier said ho did this because he thought " it was in the best interest of the workers" and was not, as union
leaders have claimed, told to do it by his emploveis in older to save them compensation settlements. "
The companies also deny any col lusion. T,V. '.V. Oughtrcd, proMA^rit <7
.Asbestos C o ip , largest 0
fr u ,.
Thetford Mines asbestos companies, says he knew "little or nothing of how the clinic operated.''
"V/e just set up the clinic because
the government asked us to. but we staved at arm 's distance fioin it and never interfered with its operation. We just paid the bills."
for each worker, depending on r and degree of disability.
At present, 215 T h e t f o r d Mi' workers are receiving con1pcnsa,'
Had the sick men oecn r.cnt to the for asbestos-related diseases. Accc.
compensation board and awarded dis mg to figures supplied by the Coni'
ability payments, the c o m p a n i c s erallon of National Trade Union r.
would have been r e q u i r e d to pay The Quebec Federation of Labor, !
lump sum premiums to the goverh- two labor organizations to which lev
ment of between 3,COO and 575,000
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cf the companies' clinic winch <herked v.cikcrs far pos-ible a:;ho.i'j'v?e];ited lu rg rilmcrds, admits he did net in'.iet .jut .inectcd woikfrs leave their jobs and seek v.oi lim ans cnmpcnration benefits,.
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from 1210 until ln: l year, 'av-i he
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,K,.',ers S.r.ie Cart> (.Mnadian -,s;th-
ist
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job security deterred most men from seeking compensation.
ing compensation dc/jp^ffeing given clean bills of healtiu/^C artier but he
lished a system of inspection (Rr
lation 197 of
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Laurent Cote, vice-president of the believed this washappening "because which required Vs<fnment insj
three ..r-estus coma..rues m the CNTU-affiliatcd 'union at A s b e s t 0 s of changing standards at the compen tor "to examine company clinic m
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e-re,) Asbestos Core., Bell Asbestos Corp., said: "Asbestos workers ha\e sation board "
cal records and issue annual min
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absolutely no guarantee of work if
" It's more like a welfare^system certificates to those Avith h e a 1 1
Until last year when he rehn- they're removed ' from the mills or now than like workmen's c o lo n isa lungs."
q : shod his y b as director and be- mines for asbestosis.
tion. Older miners put in claims be
However, because they appoii
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"There just aren't available jobs fore they retire and get it automati Cartier to that job for Eastern Qur
c'snsc Th-e o~!y ether doctor workmg cutside the mine or mill -- so the cally . . . everybody gets 10 per cent. (q region including Gaspe, Qur
5 him was Dr. Jacques Dussault, guy who's sick has to choose between But I've never met-anybody who said | City-and Thetford Mines), C a r t i
O A t-ta l of tmcr.ty-eighl deaths v, ho joined the staff 17 years ago.
his health and the ability To support he had asbestosis."
was in effect e x a m i n i n g Rise
v..re itt.-.b -tc d to asbeatreis or as^ : . ~t y-re in tcd ciseuecs : .are 1223 by
. Dussault agrees with Cartier's \er::cr. of how the dune operated, but
his family. Tnat's no choice. "A guy of 55. trained in one occu
T h e t f 0 r d Mines CNTU council president Oliva Lemay said this is
work. When he examined w o r k e r s
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~c-f imer t ~!d '.0 a; ply rays he was not in agreement with it. pation is scared stiff of losing his not the case. He said 101 of the 251 was a c o m p a n y doctor; then
r iLr/.P. tv, a years esc";;I, th-i.vnga natned dsentdo htiemll ttohecowmoprkeenr jaob.litstole evseicnk, if hseomseoomneetitmellesshidmoehsen''st bjioeoaprdle ihnis tuhneionlassthasveveernefeyreraerds'thoatvhee wthoeuirld te"sctharnegseultshatass" aangdoveexrnan
have the guts to admit it and take
representative, deciding which w,
0 deaths from Meg car.ccr . hr.own .release ;n frequency w;;J, cxao-
sation, but Cartier was the boss and I stood by his decision.
the chance. If these doctors really
been refused compensation.
ers would receive their miner's cc
rc `.0 aCueafes. .ure net ir.eluded
wanted to help the w o r k e r s , why _ Paul Filteau, secretary-general of the icates and which would be dc:
n:ng asbeetss-relnicd deaths )
^ "I d;d what I could. If I felt a didn't they at least tell the union or Quebec Asbestos Mining Association them and subsequently recommcn
A araca sacbesman said v,orders man was sick, I told him and sug the companies that there were sick to which all four employers belong for compensation.
Carey Canadian Mine, 15 iTLles gested he aco his family doctor.''
people going back to work?"
while stating that the association was 1 C a r t i e r continued to hold ti
tram 'T ;.:l:c rd Mines, had io:-; confi-
"Perhaps I wasn't severe enough
Dussault claims that on several in no way responsible for the clinic, * conflicting posts until 1972 at w!
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rrA in enplaning Use seriousness of the occasions he discussed the problem of said some c o m p a n y officials were time, according to Dr. Bertrand I
1- ? ^ --CITI to go for checkups :r.wf:- d i s e a s e . Ept most of them didn't whether or not ,to remove sick men long aware of Cartier's practice of lemare, a long-time workmen's e
qu';*;ily. do:gate a rjoternment reg u'a-
,,ant to go to compensation - they knew there weren't very many jobs
from the job with company represent atives, whom he refused to name, but
"k e e p i n g certain information on pensation commissioner, he was
workers' health to himself." '
r placed by Philippe Duval, becaus,
t:c3 requ-n ng annual vnsits. Last ;car LCucy Can;idian workers stepped at-
cutrtde the mine ar.d there hvas no "nothing ever came of it."
s " if you tell a 55-year-old man he's was not really proper that a comji
tendre" the cirrose altogether, and went
guarantee the c o m p a n y could find them another job if they were re
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really ^sjpk, you may do him more - h a r m psychologically than good
man s h o u l d work for the govt
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instead to fise l'ho Herd Min,<ers-hospital - moved from thdrprcscr.tcr.es.
Oughtrcd said he was u n a w a r e physically. It's a difficult decision .. .
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" They said that they would like to go to compensation if I could give
that workers were net seeking com pensation for fear cf losing their jobs.
and company o f f i c i a l s felt they shouldn't interfere.
ployed, there was nothing incorm Bellemare maintained. "The govt
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them another jcb where there was no asbestos dust. I explained that all I
"I'm not sure," he said, "but I
" C a r t i e r told the' workers they ment needed a good pneumologist ;
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could do was classify them as sick, hut I couldn't give them another job.
believe we have a clause in the con tract that guarantees them a job in the event they have to leave their job
were all right, let them go back to their jobs and, if he thought the case serious, recommended that they visit
he (Cartier) had an international n
tation." Despite his replacement, Cartier <
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because of dust conditions."
their family doctor.
tinued to act as a consultant in rest
c : n ...... Mien m 1273 I n c l u d c d h
W rt Q }3nic vras set T1? by The Herd
" So most of them never went --
Union spokesmen deny this, saying
"But the companies n e v e r told X-rays for the government until !
' "> f iTcs rt the time th 'dcsnt ' [; m a: .'as*.c3 compari.ics mere than they were frightened they'd lose their' it is one of the clauses they are now him to do ttiis -- it was his decision. year. He was replaced as head cl
1 '1 torri T .r.s called n were the r.o parrs p[i) h r C -n r ? t0 a !?M! jobs and have no way of making a sfriv'rt to obtain
i n * n r f o * o- A
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Ccctirscd rem Psg A-t
W S t a p l o y t f tSr VA\ bx? br.r ( r o m dr.'caoe or parte*.-: iccur-.'
shicis use ur-iarmed servicemen :o
fctororpi broaioxsts. Tbe .Ss <ur Of SOCJTty 50TN
ire, toe srmy secur.re s * r i re, tbe ravy srcur.iy group fcsve up to
ICD,COD employe a; mccutnrmg.
p rrrrf to* world.
through
btadpbssrs sad anlyrm g f o r e i g n
ntLtory raiotrslS c- T te UJk nubtory rtorirr t o toe
CIA may hare been involved n three
silrged salvage cperaUres^ repcrtcc
lc it rugril 1. toi N x r a l x c - ^ ' -
5 Crer.prey. Tbe> were O Tho rroevt.-y, w-.to Rrr.uh nr!?
c f e l e c t r o m e gear from a So-.el
pre-re that crashed m toe North he a
three rears Ego ' The recovery of elertretor Lsterv
irg roices from a Scvset vessel ton.
<tf-V m toe Sea of Japan t o years
ig a O Tfcs recover cf a m rirre weazen
J r a a Soviet plane that crashed n
the Jen of Japan five years ago.
2 c r u is e
b o o s ts C u n a r d
LCS ANGELES (Rector) -- A 5rr-virK y succeref-J trerld cruise by Ihe ~Ctmurd finer seen Eliaabelh II f c a i V t o the cncc-riltog British line r-refitabia far toe first tone ia many s rre C a n a r d managing-director
> Jpkn Ifitchdl shid yesterday. '-M itchell Cow from Britain to Lcs /ingcles to be present at the liner's ijmt virit to the United States west Coast as it ended its O ct'7 world cruise. Passengers paid up. to JICO,COOfor the ship'3 mast expensive suite cn the tear of 10 ccuatr.es. An average suite peat fer ?2),Ka a coupto, Mitchell said.
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lostinowi (rom l'agr -v i
x''- - t s -m ' ' .v.ur.e..;. '..V r.g.V. .< lx art *toch enraies,
r e '<vt "V. to :-s
C'/r/ur.c'.'.ci
a-.to the rumngs,. has '.0 work c-vertm e
srd thus could lead to a fstol enlarge
ment ci toe ventricle
it.t .'. ,s sc rare to she* a effv-". rcl.v.-vr.s-S.? hetJeen the '.*0 l'-r.g clsca red heart ai'.ore 1 that Mor.treal's two top pathologists refuse systematically to perform autopsies ect this ' >ye cl ceato. because they krxre they can : pro .c the relatiaxh'? m the evert cf accurtcase."
VCtoc Cartuer (reel;- ad:r..t? he ac quiesced to wnartkrs' varies to remain
Taxi fares
Ccstunned from Page .A-1
ct cf esasuitatuan with t o organilatoms during March and April and toe cabinet will enact changes in late April or early May.
Rival ta n l e a g u e s have sought ceruficaucn to speak for the industry in the west and central sectors of Montreal . and in Locgueuil while a single league speaks fer the industry in' the west sector c! Montreal. Berthicurme said transportdepretoient of ficials would consult with all compet
ing groups. The alternative would be to wait
until one league is certified for each sector and then deal only with that league. Berthiaume said it might take still' longer before the newly-certified leagues were sufficiently organized to fully represent their members
The draft revision suggests a new
O feS tt o
a: their jobs in spite of the hazards.^
!> vehemently dtn.es any collusion
. ;
h-'.-clf .tr.l i.'.i' '.".r.ir.g com-
pmUit-.s when paid r.ss salary and fur
to>e upkeep of toe chruc.
"! can. swear that I was never given any directives by the compa-
rues and that I acted solely cn the b-Svii of rr.v e x t e n s i v e training in s a x of toe world's leading medical
centres " Union claims that Cartier was re
luctant to refer workers to the Work men's Compensation Board because
the companies didn't want to pav 1u in p sum compensation premiums
are `Totally false." he says. "I worked on the principle that if
toe worker showed a slight trace of
r men no s\
t asbestoses I warned him about it and
,, t him decide if he wanted to re-
m.im ..t las job
' My policy was to try and do a.-,
much good for hun as was possible
without causing him any harm.
"I was acting on behalf of the
worker who was worried about losing
income. I w'asn't doing it for pecuni
ary rewards from the companies. I've
never been one to go in for that sort
of thing 1 worked myself through
medical school by keeping a job at
the post office from 6 pan. to 3 a.m.
every day .
"But do matter what Isay , people
are still going to think that I had
sold out to the companies. I just tried
to do my best.''
'
- Cartier says that throughout his
career at the clinic he was under the
t.iuny on JOB I
found nothing to complain about, so who was I to add my two cents
worth.
"1 guess 1 was too timid; I should have spoken out. My friends have always told me that I'm too timid.''
C a r t i e r remains sceptical, how- \ ever, about toe validity of the recent M o u n t Sinai study which found a very high incidence of. lung disease among veteran Thetford Mines work
ers. He says that during contract nego
tiations which led to the violent and bitter asbestos strike of 1W9, the unions sought to dramatize their demands by trying to establish a link between abestos mining aid tuberculosis. The asbes tos workersdhd are on strike for the first time.since 19-59 and safety clauses are among their chief demands.
may
impression that if the condition of workers was being made worse by their continued exposure to asbestos f i b r e s this fact would have been
"Today, the same tiling is true , and iri order to make their point that
mining asbestos leads to asbestosis, they commissioned Dr. Irving Selikoff
system for displaying the d r i v e r 's brought to his a t t e n t i o n by toe of tie Mount Sinai College of Medi
p e r m i t replacing the illegible and Quebec Asbestos Mining Association. >cine in New York to study toe situa
nearlv invisible p l a s t i c cards that
``The association was forever fi-' tion here.
now hang behind the driver's bead, nancing costly research projects, and
"Now, it is common knowledge in
with a bolder beside the taxi meter displaying the owner's taxi permit,
impressive medical teams visited my clinic from leading hospitals in De-
our field that Selikoff finds 100 per cent more abnormalities in lung x-
the driver's permit and the rates.
This would take effect next January
unless the consultation next month
indicates the taxi business is pre
pared to make the changes immedi
ately.
.
A more anybitious extension of taxi
regulations will be launched in toe
summer or fall with the publication
of draft rules governing toe taxi driv
er's relationship with fleet o w n e r s
and with taxi s e r v i c e associations.
Non-owning drivers rent their cars
from the owners and depend on the
s e r v i c e associations for insurance,
despatching service and credit sys
t r o i t, New York, Philadelphia and
Pittsburg. "I would have made recommenda
tions for improving working condi tions but I was hampered by these big-name teams which spent up to two months at a time here.
"They spent an enormous amount of money and 1 figured that if there was anything wrong with our opera tion they would have made recom mendations to the comparcfes.
" Wh e r i they came I reproached them on the fact that they didn't seem to follow up their tests with recommendations for improving work
rays than anyone else.
"When you read x-rays -- and I used to read 10,000 a year in my day -- you can over-read, under-read or arrive at a happy medium.
" Selikoff over-reads and toe unions knew that and that's why they went after him."
- Cartier says that by over-reading, any doctor can look at x-ra>s of the lungs of persons over age 50 in any liile of work and discover "all sorts of abnormalities."
tems.
ing conditions.
"They could have made a great
1 contribution with all their up-to-date
expertise. They were in a better posi
tion than our little clinic which was
i s o l a t e d from medical centres. I tV.rmrvM f'lKnv n*nnM T<minT-n^nfl KT1-
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Q U E B E C -- Tougher inspcand stiffer fines will be introd early this year to control condb hazardous to Quebec asbestos mu Mines and Natural Resources M ter Gilles Masse announced ye: day.
But the minister told the nat; assembly toe existing air pol' standards would remain in force.
Masse said the number of i
inspectors would be increased :
from 17 and spot checks wool
made without advising the union
company in advance.
He said the practice In the
had been to give 25 hours notice
visit by an inspector so that to/
ions could arrange to have a rr
sentative available.
Masse said the present syste:
fines, providing for a $25-o-day
alty for a company v i o l a t i n ?
rules, were "very minimal, re
lous."
The minister said he was u;
to say yet how stiff the new
would 'be.
' The p r e s e n t on-the-job poll
limit of five asbestos fibres per i
c e n t i m e t r e of air will reni;.
force. Masse said.
The level is accepted by U.S
thorities, he said. A reduction t<
fibres per cubic centimetre, m
manded by toe Canadian unio.
"not technically p o s s i b l e , " M
said.
CLCc-jcrs pa_r ip -o ;. :,v.u or 'tie n ip 's mod; erpcnnive Elite cn the tour cl 13 cocaines, An average Elite
-peat far 25,00 a couple, Mitchell said. >
.r i
iCui longer before the nev.ly-certified leagues were sufficiently organized to fully represent their members.
The draft revision suggests a new
a he weather
from the owners and depend od the s e r v i c e associations for insurance, . despatching service and credit sys tems.
MUM M
* trin, rrin go ewSyfy . . and maybe it will. We can expect pie cloud rod rmcijiitalicn to leave cur region overnight, leav e r; us vrifh fair ccaaiticm temorrew and the prespects for a ocd wccbcai. Shies mill be partly clcudy tomorrow, the cloud fever decreasing through lie day. Temperatures will be a bit cooler, however; and to can expect some pretty strong gusts Ji-vrind. Low tmdgbtmill be 25 (~3 Celsius). High tomorrow, jriH K? around 23 (2 Cdriu3).
i Leag-farre catlook for the weekend i3 mainly sunny with erasenable temperatures.
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go
The temperatures
Overnight low temperatures and yesterday's high. Brack eted figures are Celsius equivalents.
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In the U.S.
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Min. Max. Minneapolis 32(3) (8) Chicago
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them cn the fact that they didn't
seem to ' follow up their tests with
recommendations for improving work
ing conditions.
"They could have mode a great
contribution with al! their up-to-date
expertise. They were in a better posi
tion than our little clinic which was
i s o 1a t e-d from medical centres. I
thought 'they would recommend im
provements to the industry but they
never seemed to do it.
"I was open to recommendations.
But it was embarrassing for a little
iTench-Canadian doctor in the boon-
docks lik5 me to come along after all
those big shots and tell the industry
to make improvements.
"The companies would surely have
told me to mind my own business,
that the leading world experts had
Continued from Page A-l
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mie oi ugh; ami discover "ail s,.its of abnormalities.''
"not technically p o s s i b l e , ' said.
'Clinic revamped;
my new chief
By JOSH FREED Star Staff Reporter
THETFORD MINES - The asbes tos companies' clinic here has been revamped, says Dr. Michel Lesage, the man responsible for the clinic since April, 1974.
Lesage, filling the newly created pest of company "medical advisor," is a doctor, ^lawyer and radiologist whose most recent position was ad visor to the ministry of social affairs.
Lesage has hired a new physician, Richard Lambert to replace I>r. Paul Cartier, former head and now con sultant at the clinic. Cartier will re tire in June.
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prevention as well. He says the ford Mines companies have spei million on ventilation alone i: last five years, but adds " it i enough-' in light of the Mount results.
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:re:us -'- . p-ev-v q wurur.g vondi-
uons bul 1 was hampered by these
big name teams which spent up to
.1
.1 tune : re
'
pp\ :u ,,a p.-cmuas amount
monev and 1 figured that if th ere.
as anyid.rluinng "wr.uv.n. g^ with our opera-
liar, they would have made re-coin-'
mendations to '.he companies. " W h e n they came 1 reproached
them on the fact that they didn't
seem to follow up their tests with
recommendations for improving work- -
ing conditions
"They could have made a great
contribution with all their up-to-date
' \\h-n yuu rend a u ) i -- -md I used to read 10.000 a year in my day
you can over read, under-read or arrive at a happy medium.
' kdikoff ovt-r reads and the unions v that and that's v.l.v they went
aftei him " (Trtu-r says that by over reading,
any doctor can look at x-ravs of the lungs of persons oj$r age 50 in any line of work and discover " all sorts of abnormalities."
The minister said he was unable to say yet how stiff the new fines
would t>e. The p r e s e n t on-the-job pollution
limit of five asbestos fibres per cubic i 0 n t 1m e t r e of air will remain in
force. Masse said The level is accepted by U.S. au
thorities he said. A reduction to two fibres per cubic centimetre, as de manded by the Canadian union, is "not technically p o s s i b 1e," Masse
said.
f 6Clinic revamped/ '
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expertise. They were in a better posi tion than our little clinic which was i s o l a t e d from medical centres. 1 thought rtbey would recommend im
- says new chief
0 urn go Lwa%y
provements to the industry but they never seemed to do it.
"I was open to recommendations. But it was embarrassing for a little Frtnch-Conadan doctor in the -boon
docks like me to come along after all
By JOSH FREED Star Stall Reporter
THETFORD MINES -- The asbes tos companies' clinic here has been revamped, says Dr. Michel Lesage,
prevention as well. He says the Thetford Mines companies have spent S20 million on ventilation alone in the last five years, but adds "it is not enough" in light of the Mount Sinai
results.
Irosybe it roll. 'Re can expepf., ive car regko overnight,- leav-
f rrow and the prospects far a jjfy doady tomorrow. the cloud
. Temperatures will be a tit iOC some pretty 'string gads l-Jl Celsius), nigh tCtoUTOW,
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British Ccistoiia: Showers '- i l Alberto: Saury to the
,, ctcwCurrim in the south.
,. Garries, except runny in the ,|y Trith ccccstoosl light mow. ^oody in the south. Moritimes: |thcriy winds. Newfoundland:
a. Temperature at 10 am. ^perature yesterday, 47(3); lame date last year. 41(5);* 3 03 at sea level at 10 a.m. fr).55 at 11 pm.; humidity at
The temperatures ,
Overnight low temperatures and yesterday's high- Brack
u.s. eted figures are Celsius equivalents.
At home
In the
Mia. Max. Minneapolis \
Montreal (Dorval)
Quebec Ottawa Vancouver Victoria Calgary ' Regina VTmnipeg Thunder Bay Toronto Fredericton Saint John Halifax
37(3) 45(3) 37(3) 41(5) 37(3) 33(4)
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26 42 38 55 31 55 36 49 46 54
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Pollution over Montreal Island
for 24 hr. period up to 8 a.m. today
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those big shots and tell the bdustry to make improvements.
"The companies would surely have told me to mind my own business, that the leading world experts had
Agreement
Continued from Page A-i
plete stop to Canada's export g ra b
movement, dosed some airports peri-'
odically and upset mail sendee, par
ticularly at Toronto's postal Terminal
A that handles half the letters mailed
in Canada.
Toronto postal officials reported to
day that Terminal A was ticktog nor
mally, with all first and second d ass
mail cleared though with a backlog of
parcels and other material running
between three and 10 days behbd de
livery schedule.
'
Despite a general PSAC return to
work, there were still spots where
members were picketing the job, and
there was some grumbling from union
members here and there about the
the man responsible for the clinic
since April, 1974.
Lesage, filling Hie newly created post of company "medical advisor," is a doctor, lawyer and radiologist whose most recent position was ad visor to the ministry of social affairs.
Lesage has hired a new physician, Richard Lambert to replace Dr. Paul Cartier, former head and now con sultant at the clinic. Cartier will re
tire in June. " I thmk it was a good clinic when
it was set up," Lesage said, "butm recent years it had fallen somewhat behind the times." / The companies should have taken j steps to update the clinic'3 operation 1 [ earlier, he said, but added that un- * \ iohs'"and government also could have / . taken - more initiative in improving / conditions.
Lesage said that as cf Jan. 1 the clinic was completely revamped, with the addition of modem equipment, and a policy of c 0 m p 1e t e medical check-ups. Previously, workers h a d been c h e c ked only for asbestos-re
lated diseases. . " Anyone with lung scarring or as-
lytatod Sts?
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plete stop to Canada's export grain movement, dosed some airports peri- ` odically and upset mail service, par ticularly at Toronto's postal Terminal A that handles half the letters mailed in Canada.
Toronto postal officials reported to day that Terminal A was ticidng nor mally, with all first end second dass mail cleared though with a backlog of ` parcels and other material running between three and 10 days behind de livery schedule.
Despite a general PSAC return to work, there were still spots where members were picketing the job, and there was some grumbling from union members here and there about the terms of the settlement.
Weighmen and handlers continued to picket the Canadian Grain Commis sion's building in Winnipeg. ,
Strongest dissatisfaction with the wage settlement was expressed in the Atlantic provinces, where1Larry Wal lace, president of a PSAC local at the Canadian Forces base in Gagelown, N.B., said he and other union officials are meeting today to consider voting non-confidence in the union's*bargain ing team.
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" I thick it was a good clinic when it was set up," Lesage said, ``but in recent years it had fallen somewhat
behind the times." i The companies should have taken \ ( steps to update the clinic'3 operation earlier, he said, but added that un- I \ ions" and government also could have / taken - more initiative in improving / conditions.
Lcsage said that as. cf Jan. 1 the clinic was completely revamped, with the addition of modem equipment, and a policy of c o m p l e t e medical chcck-ups. Previously, workers h a d been c h e c ked only for asbestos-re lated diseases.
"Anyone with lung scarring or as bestos-related diseases will be sent for an immediate examination at the W o r k m a n 's Compensation Board clinic in Montreal, so that no one will s u d d e n l y surface with disabilities higher than 10 per cent," Lambert said.
"But I'm -sure it will take time to re-establish the cl i n i c 's credibility. Many workers appear to have lost confidence in it."
Lesage intends to press for im
provements in the area of disease
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