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March 3. 1971
Hr. H. E. Sunbury Asbestos Textile Institute 75 Center Street P. 0. Box 239 Pompton Lakes, New Jersey 07442 Dear Herb: I have reviewed the minutes of the Board of Governors meeting and the General Meeting. The minutes appear to be in order as you have them prepared. I am only sorry we cannot use all of the language Dr. Goodman used and probably some more he would like to have used in a report to top management people of member companies. We have had one response to our "letter to the President" attached is a copy. Yours very truly, H. K. PORTER COMPANY, INC.
L. E. Moody Works Manager LEM:ctg
205 MIDDLE STREET. BRIDGEPORT. CONN. 06603
Raybestos5Manhattan
CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
WILLIAM S SIMPSON PPtSIOCNT
February 25, 1971
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Mr. L. E. Moody, Works Manager H. K. Porter Company P.0. Box 10516 Charlotte, N. Carolina 28200
Dear Mr. Moody:
I read with interest your recent letter concerning the Asbestos Textile Institute of which you are now President. Please be assured of our continuing interest in the Institute, and I will make every effort to include the June meeting in my schedule.
Sincerely
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ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE
P. O. BOX 239 75 CENTER ST., POMPTON LAKES, N. J. 07442
U. S. A.
February 27# 1971
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Hr. L.E. Moody H.K. Porter Company,Inc. P0 Box 10516 Charlotte, N.C. 23201
Dear Larry:
Minutes - February ATI meeting
I enclose draft of the minutes for both the 3oard of Governors meeting and the General Meeting held on February 3 8*1- 4 respect ively.
Please let me have your comments as to any additions, corrections, or deletions that you think necessary.
By copy of this letter I ask that Haven Roosevelt send me his comments also.
In respect to the minutes for the General Meeting,Paragraph 11,
Page 3, reports Dr. Goodman's comments concerning his attendance
at Dr. Selikoff's seminar on Asbestosis held last June. I have
modified,or omitted, some of Dr. Goodman's statements as for
example
Dr. belikoff is not an honest man, and is no credit to
the medical professioni"
I trust that Dr. Goodman's remarks as recorded in the minutes,
when distributed to our members in U.3.A.,Canada, England, France, Mexico and Japan, will be considered acceptable by Legal Counsel both from point-of-view of the Institute and Dr. Goodman]--
With kind regards.
Yours, truly.
cc: H.C. Roosevelt
H.E. Sunbury becretary
' ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE
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Hinutes - BOARD OP GOVERNOR'S MEETING - February 3, 1971
The RED CARPET INN, CHARLOTTE, H.C.
In attendance:
L.E. Moody - II.it. Porter Company,Inc. (Chairman)
M.Q. Scowcroft - Raybestos-Hanhattan,Inc.
A. Kuzmuk - Garlock Inc.
E.A. 3chuman - Johns-Hanville Corp.
N.D. Brown - Johns-Manville Corp.
J.W, Chriatenbury - Amorican Asbestos Textile Corp.
E.A. Morris - Uniroycl,Inc.
S.J.Peele,Jr. - Uniroyal,Inc. (Guest)
H.C. Roosevelt - Cadwalader, U'ickorshan & Taft (Attorney)
H.E. Sunbury - Secretary
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Absents Goo. Griswold,Jr.of llicolet Indu3tries~(Came to Charlotte for the meeting but developed a temperature,stayed in bed.)
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I. Chairman Moody called the meeting to order at 4*00 ?.M.
2. The minutes of the last moeting were presented for reading. On
motion by E.A. Schunan, seconded by E.A. KorriB, it was voted to omit
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3. Mr. Moody reported that he hadareceived a letter of resignation
from Mr. E.A. Schuman dated January 4 1971 stating that he no
longer had responsibility for ikn Johns-Hanville1s asbestos tex
tile line, and consequently was resigning from the A.T.I. Board of
Governors. Mr. Morris moved that the resignation be accepted with
deep regret. Motion eeconded-by"Mr. Kuzmuk. So voted.
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Mr. Moody stated that K.J. Cowan, Vice President and General
Marketing Manager of Johns-Hanville had written him under date
-of January 4# 1971 expressing their wish that J/M be represented
on the Board, of Governors of ATI by Mr. Norman D. Brown. On motion
by Mr. Kuzmuk, 'seconded by Mr. Morris, it was voted JuuuixiHsrutiyx
unanimously to elect hr. Brown to the Board of Governors.
4* Mr. Moody stated that he had a letter from Mr. J.L. Rainey, President of American Asbestos Textile Corporation, dated
January 7* 1971* tendering his resignation as a member of the A.T.I. Board of Governors duo to the Increasing pressure of his corporate responsibilities. Mr. Scowcroft movod that the resig
nation be accepted with deep regret. Motion seconded by Hr.Kuzmuk, and so voted.
In his letter Kr. Rainey nominated Mr. J.V. Christenbury to represent American Asbestos Textile Corporation on the Board of Governors. Mr. Scowcroft moved that the nomination of Kr. Christen bury be approved, motion seconded by Mr. Kuzmuk, and it was voted unanimously to elect Mr. Christenbury to the Board of Governors
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5* Treasurer Kuzmuk presented the Financial Report dated 1/11/71.*; Kr. Chriatenbury moved that it be accepted, Mr. Scowcroft seconded the motion, and so voted unanimously. A copy of the report la attached to these minutes.
Mr. Kuzmuk stated that the Secretary had advised him that the Reserve Fund, would be depletod by at least $14,200.00 to meet A.T.I.
expenses in the year 1971, in order to take care of the present level of expenses. $1900.00 of this deficit is due to the 20* special discount applicable to members 1971 dues. While there are ample reserve funds at the moment it is plain that the time Is approaching when expenditures must be brought in line with our yearly inconel
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6'. The Secretary stated that he had received a letter from MAIUFACTU7?AS MULTIPLES S.A., Caracas, Venezuela, dated December 3197C saying that they were the only manufacturers of asbestos textiles in Venezuela, and were interested in "subscribing to the Asbestos Textile Institute as a membership". As their'letterhead indicated they were a distributor for Johns-Manville the Secretary inquired thru the Fibre Seles Dept, of J/M if Manufactures Multiples S.A. actually did qualify as a manufacturer of asbestos textiles, and was assured they did. Information was sent Manufacturas Multiples S.A. on December 8,1970 relative to requirements for Associate Member ship in the Institute, with the promise that their interest in becoming a member of the Institute would be submitted to the board of Governors at this meeting. They did not reply to this letter.
Kr. Scovcroft expressed'doubt as to whether Manufacturas Multiples S.A. were interested in Associate Membership in ATI and moved that the natter be tabled until such time as the Secretary could clarify the extent of their interest. Kr. Kuzmuk seconded this motion and it was. so voted,__^->
7. Hr. Koody^reported that he had Kzitizz asked Mr. *'m.J.V. Smith,
Vice President t: General Sales Manager of Bell Asbestos Mines,Ltd., to accept appointment as Public Relations Director for the A.T.I. as voted by,the 3oard at their meeting on October 8, 1970, and that Kr. Smith had deolined the appointment saying that iXxx.sudx acceptance vouldjplace both he and his company in embarrassing position relative to their competition.
8. Locations and dates for ATI meetings in 1971 and 1972 were discussed:
June 9-10, 1971 - Cherry Hill Inn, Cherry l!ill,HJ (Approved)
October 6-6, 1971 - Savannah Inn Country Club,Savannah,Go. (Approved February 2-3, 1972 - The Kills-Hyatt House,Charleston,S.C, (Approved) Juno 7-6, 1972 - Marriott Key Bridge Hotel,Arlington,Va. (Wash.) (Ter.tat: October 1972 - Secretary is to chock with Fluid Sealing Assoc, as
to their datos for October meeting. The vjAMA meets on Oct. 3-6, 1972. Following week hus Columbus Day, Suggested for an ATI meeting in the 3rd week of Oct. were Country Club of 11.C., Pinohurst, or Hilton Head. Further discussion is necessary.
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9* As agreed at the last Board meeting, tho Chairman of each of
our working committees was invited to discuss current activities
and forward plans for his committee/ Highlights of their remarks
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'Fiber Testing Committee, B.E. Childers,Chairman,
Mr, Childers outlined the work they were doing on the Magnetic
Rating specification and test method, in cooperation with the
Technical Committee. Referred to his previous request that more
representatives of spinners be assigned to fchjs his committee.
Suggested that the Fiber Testing Committee night well be comDined
with the Technical Committee provided the "miners" had no objection
Hote: Following the meeting Messers Stiefken and of Lake Asbestos,
and Walter K. Smith of Bell Asbestos Mines, both expressed strong
opposition
to
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idea
of
combining
the
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committees
Air Hygiene & Mfg, Committee, H.M. Willingh&m^'Chaiman
Mr, Willingham reported on progress of .'instruction booklet for
the Membrane Filter Method for Determination of Airborne Asbestos Fiber, Said that all members had approved tho final draft except American Asbestos Textile Corp, who were late receiving their copy. Credited tho Task Group consisting of Ralph Hinrimarch of J/>* Joe Wronski of R/M, and Dewey Childers of il.K.Porter Co., with doing a fine Job in preparing-.tlae copy for the booklet. Recommended
that the booklet be approved for. printing. VI / *, # t
There was general agreomont by members of the Board tliat the Secretary should proceed to obtain an estimate for the printing of one thousand copies, and report back to the Board as to total cost, and ask approval to place tho printing order. Also,
the Secretary ie "to prepare^a- suitable foreword for the booklet. //
Mr. Moody said that his company would continue to use both the Greenburg-Snith Impinger Method and the Membrane Filt-er Method in making "dust counts". Mr. Willingham stated that his company would not discontinue use of tho G-S Impinger in his opinion.
Mr. Moody suggested that tho Air Hygiene & Kfg. Committee should investigate the new "Jet type" of du3t collector("Reverse Pulse Dust Collector" ) for the benefit of all nonbers. Says that
several types of filter material can bo used in this type of collector, and feels that it has on important potential in the asbestos textile industry.
Technical Committee, John W. Hawkins, Acting Chairman.
Mr. Hawkins, substituting for Chairman Dixit, !Std they were
trying to complete tho final draft on ASTM D-1118, Test for Magnetic Rating of Asbestos. Propose to give it a new number. Revision of Dut ASTM D-1573, Heat Aging of Asbestos Textiles, will be next on the agenda of the Technical Committee. Mentioned the recommendation oado to linvy Clothing Unit, Hatick,HBss., on Hil-C-B22U9B that the term "organic fibor" be subatituted for
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Mr. Moody asked If we should try to develop ASTM specifications for certain treated fabrics. Kr. Hawkins doubted that it would be practicable Iszifixxii or desirable to do so. Mr. II.D. brown
said he would question the advisability also.
Asbestos Advisory Committee, Mr. V..A. Morris,Chairman.
Mr. Morris reportod that the proposed folder (or envelop otuffer)
entitled
" Roconnonded Health Safety
Practices for Handling and Fabricating Asbestos Textile Products"
xzx had been approved by member companies, and a preliminary
survey indicatod that the printing order could be dtKXXfcsx about
25000. He recommended that the Board coprove the final draft, and
the issuance of a printing order, as soon as they were in receipt
of said draft.
Mr. Morris said that on January 12, 1971 ho, M^Q. Scowcroft and
J.W. Christenbury met with the Navy Department 'representatives at
The Naval Ship ikigineering Center, Hyattsvillo, Maryland to discuss
the present attitude of the Navy to continued use of asbestos cloth.
The Navy has acknowledged that high asbestos dust'concentrations
do constitute a hazardous environment. Accordingly they stipulate
that when asbestos fabrics are used 'certain precautionary measures
must be taken. Apparently the use of either fiber glass fabrics or
asbestos fabrics is left to the discretion hy of the shipyard, and
whether asbestos textiles will bo phased out at some future time
is a matter of conjecture, hr. Moody -suggested that some thought
be given to a aeries of advertisements,sponsored jointly by all
members, for the purpose of combating adverse developments, or
harmful publicity, on asbestos textiles. (No action was taken on
this suggestion)
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Environmental Health Committee, hr. C.L. Sheckler, Chairman.
v ' Kr. Sheckler said..that he .had spent a good deal of time analyzing eff
of the new'Federal "Occupational Safety A Health Act of 1970" on the operations of his company. The new law becomes effective on April 28,- 1971- Said that Common Law product suits are - proliferating in the Thermal Insulation Industry. Thinks that our industry must give serious consideration to labeling asbestos products,i.ej- a warning label. Date of label could indicate whether a manufacturer has been negligent,in case of a law suit.
Kr. Sheckler read excerpts of the new Safety and Health Act, and outlined the penalties for xtttwItt violations. Mentioned that the new TLV for asbestos dust is 2 KPPCF, and 5 fibers per ML, 5 microns plus, on a time weighted average with a ceiling of 10 fibers per ML, 5 microns or greater in length.
10. Chairman Moody reported with deep regret the sudden pascing of Ralph Smith on January 21, 1971, that a donation had been sent in lieu of flowers to the Frsnke Home, Charts ton,3.C., and that a
letter of aympathjrywould be sent to iirs. Smith on behalf of tho Institute members.
11. There being no further business the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted.
(Draft) ASBS3T0S TEXTILE INSTITUTE
Minute8 - GENERAL MEETING - February 1|., 1971 The RED CARPET INN, Charlotte, N.C.
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In attendance:
AMZRICAN AS5EST0S TEXTILE CORP.
J.W. Ciiristenbury ~~~
Win. Haaskant
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H.H. Valter
GARLOCK INC.
A* Kuzmuk W.F. Brainerd
JOHNS-KANVILLE CORPORATION
N.D. BROWN E.A. SCnUMAK X.A. Roberts C.L. Sheckler
ASBESTOS CORPORATION LIMITS: G.F.A. Brink P.E. Leclerc
BELL ASBESTOS MINES LIMITED Wm.J.W. Smith Walter H. Smith
it LAKE ASBESTOS OF QUEBEC,LTD. C.E. Stiefken
ii ^TURNER-BROS.ASBESTOS CO,,Ltc
W.M. Deokman H.J. Corson
L.E. Moody
D.E. Childers
J.W. Echerd
E.C. Bratt
J.D. HcCluer (Ret'd)
Hicolet INDUSTRIES,INC.
Geo. Griswold,Jr.
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E.W. Russell
TJNI ROYAL, INC.
/E.A. noma
R.C. Hunt
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H.H. Willingham Dr.J.H. Wolfsie
S.J. Peele,Jr.
T.H. Newby
L.P. Dieringer (Guest)
rayb:SSTOS-MANHATTAN,INC, M.. Scowcroft J.W. Hawkins Dr. J. L. Goodman J.W. Frampton (Guest)
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CADWALADSR , WICKERSHAH !c TAFI H.C. Roosevelt (Legal Counse
ASBESTOS TEXTILE INSTITUTE H.E.Sunbury (Secretary)
X. President iloody-called the meeting to order at liliS P.H.
2. Those present were asked to stand and identify themselves and to give their company affiliation.
3. President Moody asked that a moment of prayer be observed in memory of Ralph 5. Smith who passed away on January 21,1971 at his home in North Charleston,S.C. Kr. Smith had attended A.T.I. meetings for about twenty years, and served as Chairman of our Air Hygiene fit Mfg. Committee during I960 and 1961.
The minutes of the last meeting were presented for reading. On motion by Mr.E.A. Schuman,seconded by Mr. K.A. Roberts, it was voted to omit the reading of same.
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5. Treasurer Kuznuk presented the Financlil Report. Dr. J.1I. Wolfsl moved that it be accepted, notion seconded by Mr. P.E. Leclerc, and so voted unanimously. A copy of the report is attached to these minutes.
6. President Moody referred to "The History of the Asbestos Textile
Industry in the United States" by J.A. Bettes,Jr., now appearing ;'in~lnstarinentra" in tho'ASBESTOS Magazine," and said that the Secretn
had been instructed to write Hr. Bettes a letter of commendation on behalf of the Institute and Its members. Hr. Bettes, an active member of the Institute for approximately twenty-four years, served
as president of ATI in 1957 and 1958* Upon retirement from iiaybesto
Manhattan several years ago Mr. 3ottes bogan to collect the infor
mation for his "History of the Asbestos Textile Industry in the USA and it has required countless hours and voluminous correspondence
to prepare the "History" for publication. The Institute appreciates the fine contribution that Hr. Bettes has made'to the asbestos textile industry, and congratulates him on doing an exceptionally fine job! Also, we think that the ASBESTOSJ-Tagazine Is to be
commended for making the "History" available to'its readersl Mr. Bettes address is:- John A. Bettes,Jr.,3100 South Ocean 31vd.,#
Xzx Delray 5cach,Fla. 33Wl- and we'are sure that he would welcome
comments from readers of the "History". ; *
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7* President Moody announced the eloction of Mr. l.'.D. Brown to
the Board of Governors, replacing Hr.' .A. Schuman as Johns-Manville
representative; and the election to the Board of Mr. J.W. Christenbv
replacing Mr. J.L. Rainey", as I the representative for American Asbestc Textile Corporation. Mr. Schuman resigned because he no longer ha3
responsibility for asbestos textiles. Mr. Rainey's resignation was necessary due to increased corporate responsibilities since ta** he was elected President of his company in June of 1970.
c v \ y/ o. The Legal Counsel Report-was given by Attorney H.C. Roosevelt, of Cadwalader, Xiclcersham k Taft", New York,K.Y. A resume' of his
1 nremarks is attached to these minutes. 1
-"9. The Fibre, Producer's Report was given by Mr. Wm.J.W. Smith, Director, Vice President & General Sales Manager of BELL ASBESTOS MINES*LTD. Mr.,.Smith began his remarks by saying that it was the opinion of the producers that the fibre situation should be exposed
as frequently as A.T.I. meets, and proceeded to discuss the situatio relative to various grades.
Group 7 fibers in the shorter classifications are fairly ample, but
the longer Group 7's are in tighter supply.
Group 6 fibers (Used in Brake Linings,etc.) very specific shortage.
Group 5 fibers - Premuim classifications are "tight".
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Group I; fibers (Used in asbestos-cement products)fairly well in bala:
Group 3 fibers - (Used in textiles) A year ago a shortage existed,
but now the high magnetic iron fibers as produced in Quebec mines
are in good supply. By contrast the low magnetic iron Group 3 fibers
as produced by Cassiar on the West Coast of Canada, continue to be
critically short. The unusually severe winter has crippled productio:
of Cassiar - situation may improve somewhat by June, but supply
will still be short.
In regard to Rhodesian fiber the embargo has been most effective
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asbestos textile manufacturers In the U.S.A. because there Is no alternative low Iron fiber except Casslar. The U.3. Government has a sizeable stockpile of low iron fiber but apparently is not willing to release any of it,
10, Committee reports were given by the respective chairmen:-
Air Hygiene fc Kfg. Committee - H.M. Willingham, Chm. Technical Committee - J.i*. Hawkins (Acting chairman)
Asbestos Advisory Committee - E.A. Morris, Chm. Fiber Testing Committee - D.E. Childers
Their reports are attached to these minutes,
11, Dr. J.L. Goodman, Worth Charleston,S.C., associated with
Raybestos-.\anhattan,Inc., speaking as a member of The A.T.I, Environmental Health Committee, reported that he had attended a seminar on Asbestosis, arranged by Dr.Irving J. Selikoff, that was held at the Mt. Sinai School oXL'TIedicine, Hew York City, on June 15-16, 1970. Dr. Goodman said he was quite surprised to note a goodly number of representatives of Labor in attendance.
Dr. Selikoff' s staff members presented the program, which turned out to bo a diatribe against industry. At opening of the meeting it was announced that spraying of steel framework in new buildings (with asbestos fibre) had been discontinued in Hew York State. Dr. Goodman was critical of Dr. Selikoff's presentation and accusations against industry. When questions were directed to various speakers Dr.Selikoff invariably spoke up to answer the question - sometimes quite rudely. .
The second day of the Seminar was devoted to mesothelioma, which Dr. Goodman stated wa3 a very controveriial and debatable form of cancor (as to cause). He does not agree with many of Dr. Selikoff's statements and/or conclusions on this subject.
Dr. Goodman-feels that.Dr. Selikoff is a "dangerous" man and the asbestos industry is -going to have to learn how to combat his tactics,'/We cannot and should not take Dr. Selikoff lightly as he has facilities for :getting"factsi,',but gets away with half-truths, and the only, way he con be backed down is being faced with true facts.
When asked if something could be done thru the American Medical Association(to..control Dr. Selikoff) ur. Goodman expressed doubt. Said there was'a~'grievance committee of the AKA but it was very difficult to get this committee to act. Thought that perhaps pressure on the Mt. Sinai School of Medicine might be effective.
In regard to mesothelioma Hr. um.J.'.t. Smith asked if Dr. Soliko differentiated between Crocidolite and Chrysotile fibre. Dr. Goodman said that Tr. Selikoff inferred that Chrysotile was suspect as well as Crocidolite.
Following Dr. Goodman's comments Mr. C.L. Sheckler, Chairman of A.T.I.'s hnvironmontal Health Committee, said that Dr. Selikoff was going to be around indefinitely and we might as woll resign ourselves to that fact, even though Selikoff might be prone 1 to deal with "half-truths".
Mr. Sheckler commented on the excellent promotional type 2igli film entitled "WHY ASBESTOS" shown to the members the previous evening, saying that there is now an Asbestos Information Association
of Worth America. Members of this now association are some of the leading manufacturers of asbestos products in the U.S.A., but no further information was given out by Mr. Sheckler.
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Mr. Sheckler then discussed the new Federal "Occupational Safety A
Health Act of 1970" (PL91-596) that becones effective on April 25,197
saying that Industry and its customers can well face new exposure
to penalties after the law becomes effective. Outlined some of the
penalties, an^ discussed standards under the new law. For example,
the present standard for noise is 90 dnife decibels maximum, and he
doubts that any textile plant can show such a low noise level!
Under the new law government inspectors will have free access
to plants and records. An employee or employee group nay request
government to make inspection at any time. The employer is required
to post conditions that exceed standards. All penalties are to be
final unless contested within 15 days.
In regard to medical and health research Mr. Shockler said
that a "National Institute of Safety & Health" hax4:tarxxlx'Mgxx
has been (or will be) set up within the framework of the Health,
Education and Welfare Department. X Dr. Cralley's group will be
part of it.
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Concluding his remarks Mr. Sheckler saidi that warning labels
on products were now voluntary but probably will become mandatory
at some future date. Thinks that our Industryl'must give serious
consideration to the use of warning labels on asbestos products.
Mentioned that Common Lav/ product suits are proliferating in the
Thermal Insulation Industry. Date."that label use began could
indicate whether a manufacturer had b6en negligent in case of a
law suit.
12. Locations for meetings in 1971 were announced:
June 9-10, 1971 - Cherry Hill Inn, Cherry Rill, U.J.
October 6-5, 1971 -/Savannah Inn & Country Club, Savannah,Ga.
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The June meeting schedule will call for arrival Wednesday afternoon
or evening, committee meetings Thursday morning, and General Meeting
from 2:00 to it:00 P.K. Thursday afternoon. This shortened program
will enable most..attendees-to be back at their respective offices
on Friday mjoj rning.
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The October-meeting is our ANNUAL MEETING to which company officials and members', wives arfe ;specially Invited. The meeting schedule in October will'suggest-arrival on Wednesday afternoon or evening,the committee meetings-will be on Thursday, and General Meeting on Friday morning'.------ '
13. There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 3:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted.
H.m. Sunbury Secretary