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FILE NAME Newspaper & Magazine Articles NMA DATE 1970 Apr 13 DOC NMA137 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Radio Call Transcript - Asbestos Story RADIO TV REPORTS INC STRE T G97-510 41 EAST WIND STREET NEW YORK NY NY 10017. ! FOR JOHNS MANVILLE CORP PROGRAM Brad Crandall Show DATE April 13 1970 > 9:00 STATION WRBC CITY New York ASBESTOS STORY CALLER Last time it was my first call and we spoke of fiberglass and asbestos and I turned on the television and radio today and beard reports that asbestos lungs not that I am - causes cancer of . BRAD CRANDALL I remember that we spoke of I don't remember asbestos being --- fiberglass CALEDO Yeah I said remember you can dissolve mW just CRANDALL CRANDALL the ss ame ame Not that whether whether it really matters The whether you and I talked about it problem is or not real CALIER I know what it is I've been in cisted with it I said this was the rst it I'm agge- I'm concerned step as fet ez It's been roing on for many many years and today it came around this over the air that they would have to put curtains stuff or you'll have to cover it -- CRANDALL area. This is why they're spraying it in a conpested CALLER Well on all construction jobs we use decided that -. that I've CRANDALL Well if you're out in the boon docks you wouldn't be breathing it it wouldn't be somewhere mask your workers cause there wouldn't be a problem You could anybody else around to breCaAtLhLeERit So long as you're in that building you're going rere CRANDALL No no wait a minute CALLER eo < Because you have IN OFFICES PEW VO * DETROIT DETROIT * LOS ANGELES WARE TON 'C SAN FRAN * C NEWIENGLS AND ENC GLANO D CHICAGO -2- CRANDALL Wait wait Everything which is sprayed is sprayed in liquid concen- tration The water evaporates and as the water evaporates many of these products become hard like cement -- CALLER Asbestos doesn't become bard -- CRARDAL: Well that's not what the report today said - CALLER Well this is -- it CHANDALL while it was What the report today said being sprayed not forever was that if you afterward etc. breathe CALLER Now they pad it up with a little piece of wood The thing gets juzzy and they just sort of ped it But when construction men work on that and they hang from the ceiling -see that goes on before anything is bung up I've CRANDALL lost you I don't even know what you are talking about side CALLER Yeah well they spray of the deck they call it the asbestos onto the under CRANDALL Uh bub For what CALLER Por insulation between floors CRANDALL Okey CALLER And any type of wiring that's to be hung under that and that we call the nung ceiling below that and that does remain stuffed up there the stuff rises forever So no matter what you do what you hit ; a t CRANDALL Well now wait minute wait between two -- It's between 8 wood floor other Salad * words nied . aa 10 ane P That's right That's Per As it's - -- a: ~ be a minute It's Dr solid floor in a CRANDALL And a suspended ceiling right CALLER Right CRANDALL And it was sprayed in there in liquid form and then it hardens tight CALLER It's sprayed might as well say it is an just like adhesive a fuzz and you know it's just -- you drill -3- are trikine what we is exactly? to drift -3- it's not rains Well, af then CRANDALL Well an adhesive about CRANDALL CRANDALL going around around then it's aoesnit It : it does. CALLER the It doesn't You Nuows Between CE CRANDALL floors floors the pile4t'cesiljiunset.- 8 masvonne Rizht Ane then have the you eli ceiling CALLER then lay Rizht And it's have the pile ceiling You they they just it's in there abridre abridre it's it's a mason know abridge But But work that's piping done utilities utilities hung and sprinkling the ceiling well that that all words you've ao you zo up words go up there, Do you there you CRANDALI and breathe that stuff I 88> it's through -- ? that's CALLER CALLER Right right any continuously men woo work wear gbere. don't the CRANDAL Well now protective mask on it of protective CALLER oe ae Cal we emphysems T RSTF aleimes eben have have that eneht,ere here claimed ut it that emphysema emphysema was ccaauusseedd that that thatthey cancer cancer it end too somebody imagine uh I'm I'm glad like say tt hathey finally -t- hey somebody stepped their say that building orainary joe is their CRANDALL the ordinary : far as help groovy the ordinary ordinary the doesn't concerned the man on somebody's Uh it doesn't * there's CALLER least there's At somebody somebody somebody That's what's passed passed way any dust laying remains remains aust. building building s00 And movementmovement air carries that how any movement between between petween Well movement the CRANDALL movement movement ? be the ceiling layers of don't ceiling . whole whole don't CALLER They havea return air They use thee ceiling return return don't system & air as return system ALL : they don't just just ALL : You the duct & then They don't two ? CALLER ALL: between duct for have CALLER They only only. use duct for supply soo bave & CRANDALL I see. CRAKDALL: Ww Whe CALLER But the return goes through the -- what we call a perforated perforated accustic ceiling or unless they just it rets around the lighting or the grid you know the minimal space -- CRANDALL comes back out Does it again pass though a filter system before it CALLER Sure It's a fiberglass filter system air CRANDALL Well won't it trap most of that stuff out of the CALLER Well it does but then is the same thing bave fiberglass in Sec those filters your own home you are know fiberglass fiberglass You may ! CRANDALL Yeah I krow Well it's an identical system So the point is fiberclass is not lucretia borzia fiberglass is an ipert substance that sometimes is food sometimes is bad depending on whether it's controlled so if you've got a controlled usage tbai's that's one thing another thing if you've got an uncontrolled usage CALLS No 1 1lke it benina a wall insulation the wall is sealed forever and WUDIO wall it does its stuis job CRANDALL 206 Wiel sven in Slbe. - wl el ols Pessing through it How much co you lose in the 1. or let's say small particles you COLLED Well the blow an air hose at filter it it in under sir never stops pressure just lika GRANDALL Yean I know CALLER It never stops COD CRANDALL 157 te Yeah hes - I know that : " oe foes ene Oo CALLER So you can take it from . ~ re A wm nee a ad te . . mee CRANDALL You know that doesn't . , an wy there Sool le at . tell me whether extent to which there are small particles breaking off air pressure e * .F -- and the from that ray CALLER of light You take a brand new one and you hold it into and just tap it against the side of your band the CRANDALL Ub buh ; CALLER That's just about the best way I know to put it CRANDALL And you start getting the loose particles huh - <tr ae.i: -5- CALLER Well you know how up in sunlight find out for Well that's infinitesimal particles will all you have to d And then show yourself Not with an old you can one one but with a brand new CRANDALL Let me ask with forced air heat you a question circulation use fiberglass fiberglass filters syster as you know An awful lot of people through their re- CALLER That is correct CRANDALL material Would you surest surest they find some other filter CALIER There is there's aluminum grid other filtering material There's plastic CRANDALL : glass Yeah but what's the plastic if it isn't fiber- CALLER Plastic doesn't have foam polyestber I ggueussess CRANDALL Seme darn thing though ightz see If it's in fiber form you're sing to wind up bres te avitow CATTER Well nylon isn't sit p GRANDAL GRANDAL No well that's tiut CALLER Understand There is a CRANDALL No neither is - enburn difference CALLER So Dvor a time that nylon or dissolve in the system CRANDALL Yesh or even edges anyhow you know like if it doesn't polyurethane -. any of of them will . it doesn't have sharp Well CALLER what I'm you to thepoinotf a cough utnaldkeirnsgtaanbdout is it doesn't irritate CRANDALL eset cme Yeab e707 CALLER all day That's the part ~ eet We inhale a lot of things everyday CRANDALL That's for sure CALLER But we're not other hand anything that coughing you know know , a piece of fiberglass in is aggravates aggravates cause your bands and it will constantly On the like you say handle sting -- 06- CRANDALL Yeah it will cut you up there's no question CALLER Well that's the difference You can handle nylon fibers they have them in cotton they have peper type it's the ---- -- ------an automobile filter it's a fan of a paper type Well there are many typos Some of them have a washable filter It's ub oh I think it's about 4 inches thick it's made out of spongy nylon and you can wash it out the same as the aluminum one They have an aluminum grid it's ob something like steel wool but it's aluminum you take it in your bathroom and you wash it down with a spray bose CRANDALL Would that be any better CALLER Well as far as I'm concerned it's A- CRANDALL Well it seems to me like inbaling little chunks of fiberglass or inhaling little chunks of aluminum is <= CALLER I don't think there are any chunks in aluminum because it doesn't come that small pm : ANDALL Well wan Raid like steel wool That's -- CALLER Well that's sort of - but you know it's much Jorstee, - I know ROMA of them they have adhesive on but I don't think they use them for houses that's more Commerciai Take CRANDALL care Okay sir thank you Nice talking to you . ee eee soe ee 4 . 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