Document 7MvzGDYvJneMN1kKNJYrgzkmj
FILE NAME Insurance Industry INS
DATE 1936 June 12 DOC INS023
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Article from The Eastern Underwriter - Dust Disease Problem Gets Much Attention
uality June 1936
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COMMISSIONERS ANNUAL MEETING IN ST PAUL
Dust Disease Problem
Gets Much Attention
HUNT CARPENTER DISCUSS IT
Pa Official Views Humane Side of Prob-
1933 and how it produced a great in-
crease in claims filed with the industrial
accident commission and caused considerable confusion The effect of the de-
cision said Mr. Carpenter was that the statute of limitations for reporting in-
jury does not begin to run against a claim for this disease until the employe
Pink Urges Safety Fund's Extension
Speaking yesterday in St. Paul at a
held well attended meeting in conjunc-
tion with the commissioners annual con-
vention Superintendent of Insurance L.
for the past twenty years broken into
five year periods disclosed the interesting and surprising fact that more com-
panies failed in normal times than in the
lem Calif Commissioner Tells of knows or with reasonable diligence H. Pink of New York strongly urged period of collapse He said
Surcharge Rating Plan
should know that his disability is caused that the principle of insuring insurance Eighty companies were taken over by the
by his occupation
pointed be widely adopted He
out that
Department during the twenty twenty-
two in the first period twenty in the
legisla- June Owen B. This decision was considered to have this principle was embodied in
ond period sixteen in the third and twenty
commissioner from Pennsylvania
L. workmen's and Samuel Carpenter Jr. commis-
indefinitely extended the previous literal
interpretation of six months for an in-
tion a year ago creating
workmen's com
perisation security funds in New York
in the fourth The answer is undoubtedly that
only the small companies failed in ordmary
sioner from California today made val-
definite period in injuries of the injuri-
State and several other states
The
times These failures were due largely to faults of management During the crisis some of the
uable contributions to the convention in ous dust disease type Continuing he setup in New Yorkis for separate stock largest companies in the conditions went under
their speeches on insurance coverage of said
and mutual funds and Mr. Pink said due mainly to economic conditions
occupational dust diseases under work-
Insurance Co's Alarmed
suf- that the money in both is already
The net claims allowed to creditors in the
eighty liquidations during the four periods
the men's compensation laws A big subject The insurance carriers were greatly ficient to take care of the claims arising 554,356 to 72,508.161.88 largest being 61
it was well handled by both officials
alarmed by the effect of the Marsh de-
out of the failure of a sizeable company
the 554,356 in the 1930-34 period The average loss
from
claims for entire twenty years
unpaid cision Our statutes provide only for a Furthermore the principle of these se-
Silicosis Superintendent N. Y.
Bills
three year
of the Schedule curity funds he emphasized is far in
Pink took up each
maintenance P reserve and only specific case re- advance of the preference upon assets major line gave its depression position
Simultaneous with the dust discase
explained addresses by Commissioners Hunt
serves were maintained beyond the three year period
of carriers for compensation claimants which was previously relied on in New
and
how it would benefit by a
safety fund providing security against
and Carpenter at St. Paul Gov. Leh- It was difficult for the insurance car- York and four other states
failure of small companies He defend-
against man of New York State gave out riers to estimate what if any hidden Following up his suggestion to extend ed his proposal
the criticism that
the news that he had signed the liabilities would fall upon them The the security idca to cover lines it is a theory borderingon socialism
Schwartzwald and Crews bills which Marsh case covered a seven year period other than workmen's compensation Su- and declared that it was in keeping with
Leg 1 amended the compensation law and the weight of medical authority perintendent Pink said a study of liqui- the theory of spreading the risk upon
in relation to occupational diseases seemed to indicate that in individual dation proceedings in New York State which all insurance is based
and their control 2 authorized the cases as high as thirty years exposure
F
expenditure of moneys from the vo- to harmful dust might take place before
cational rehabilitation fund for the total disability would result But em- exposure to dust required to develop this be imposed upon employers who do not
a
purpose of making studies and of ployers generally showed little alarm disease to a point of disability He also maintain safe working places for em-
disseminating information -- --the The insurance carriers attack was in felt that the experience of other states ployes
control and prevention of diseases the first instance a legislative one Re- should be used as a guide in determining Thus a schedule rating system design-
fnew caused by the inhalation of harmful lief was sought in the 1935 legislative rates for California
ed to carry into effect these conclusions
dust and 3 the Crews bill which session by the introduction of several After weighing these and many other was approved by Commissioner Car-
henc appropriated 100,000 for the preven- remedial bills all designed to place limi- conclusions Mr. Carpenter finally de- penter effecting possible rate savings .
tion of silicosis
tations upon recovery under the act by cided that due to the necessity of special up to 50 of the surcharge rate ap-
we
Gov. Lehman said the prevention injured workmen suffering from the di- loss reserve
against the proved and affecting rate penalties up
requirements feature would be tremendously help- sease and to fix a definite statute of hazards of this disease which special to 30 of such surcharge rates
ful from the long run social view- limitations for reporting injury The requirements do not appear necessary Rates and rules for pneumonoconiosis
point
combined forces of Union Labor op- in respect to other hazards insured it were promulgated effective June , 1936
surcharge ordered posed these restrictions and the 1935 would be essential to attach
Commissioner Carpenter
the
Among the chief points made by Mr.
Hunt was that since dust diseases create
a social and economic problem the burden of which must be borne by somebody somewhere it is not only unfair from a humanitarian viewpoint to unload this
burden on the affected individual or to
pass it on to the community as a whole but it is economically highly destructive
public Silica Dust Exposure
Legislature adjourned without any of the proposed bills having been adopted
The insurance carriers then in July
1935 appealed to Commissioner Carpen-
ter for increased rates The specific
proposal contemplated a surcharge rate upon fifty classifications of employ
ment involving injurious dust hazards
When the proposed changes were published and hearings held whatever
previous apathy on the part of employ-
rates subject to the necessary special reserve requirements rather than to ap-
ply an increase to the basic manual
rates
Mr. Carpenter further felt that the rating system he approved in order to
give full support to the physical pro-
tection of workmen should provide sub-
stantial credits in the rate of the indi-
vidual risks for the establishment of
safety measures and equipment by the
state rating bureau to revise the basic
manual rates applicable to classifications
upon which a surcharge was approved as
soon as Schedule Z data covering policy
year 1934 was received Loss reserves against the disease are to be maintained
separately upon the surcharge premiums
for a period of seven additional years
beyond the statutory three period Commissioner Carpenter also ordered the companies to calculate the amount
Of the 1,200,000 workers estimated to
be exposed continually to serious dust
hazards Mr. Hunt said by far the larg-
st group so exposed are those in occu-
ers may have existed immediately dis-
appeared Employers and union labor groups in the affected industries united
in vigorously opposing any rate increase
employer and that such rate system should also provide for rate penalties to
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of premiums earned upon California policies under classifications on which a surcharge was allowed for each policy years from
radial 211 prevention of used by the auhalation of . and 5 the Crows
appeprated appeprated 100,000 for the
tion of silicosis
C. Luhman said the prevent
feature would be tremendously
1 from the long run social view-
pont
mong the chief pants made by Mr
ient was that
dust diseases create
socal and couonne problem problem the bu et of which must be borne by somebody
is omewhere it not only unfair from a
matarian viewpoint to unload this
surden on the affected individual or to
pass it on to the community as a whole
ut it is economically highly destructive
Silica Dust Exposure
Of the 1,200,000 workers estimated to
se exposedexposed continuallcyontinually to serious cust nazards Mr. Hunt said by far the larg est group so exposed are those in occh-
He pations where silica dust prevails
referred to the havoc wrought by silica
defined the three dust in the lungs
stages in the progress of the disease
and told about exposare to the disease
in the authracite mines of Pennsylvaux Pennsylvaux
As to what has been done by legisla tures to meet this problem Mr Hunt
sand me states have laws
establishing general coverage on occupational di-
Massa- Scases California Connecticut
chusetts New York North Dakota Wisconsin Wyoming Illinois and Khode
pines Philp Island adopted such laws in March 1930
The District of Columbia the and Hawain also have general
coverage provisions do the two Fed-
compensation Federal eral Acts the United States civil service
compensation
act and the
long-
shoremen's and barbor worker's act
He referred to the amended New York
law miting total compensation in sili-
cosis cases to 3,000 and noted that
and West Virginia have acts
Kentucky provisions with elective provisions
He was critical
of the latter state's extremely hunted
coverage In closing he eniphasized
preventive the need for
programs to be
adopted as a subject for
legislation by
legislatrioencord the several states so thatthe
of
reduction of
and mortality
about sickness many about in so many
bought
can be duplicated
other dice-
California's Pneumonoconiosis Problem
Commissioner Comisoner
Carpenter's treatuxat
dast disease subject was a effect of the Cand
Court's
decision in the case of ludustrial Accident Commas
338 decided January
acts
sapped
recovery recovery under Pois Rote
sulleting
noured noured workmen sulleting sease and to is a denate
price don the act bay than the da Statute of
The fations for eating Dynas conlaned arees of Union Lab
posed these restrictions
carrers then
.
to fot
-
to Commissiona Commissiona
rates The specuie
contemplated proposal
contemplated a surcharge
rate
upon fifty six classifications of employ
cant involving injurious dust bazrds
When the proposed changes changes were pub-
ished and
public employe apathy
previousmay have
whatever hearings held employe
on the part
existed amnediately
apeardapearedappeared
and umon Employers
m acted industries
111
vigorous Nearly
1,500 bearnigs and granted
1,50 opposing any attended the
held
extension of tune
long
briefs
proposed arguments given against the
Old
Found Inadequate
Ratesthe Commissions Comisions Carpenter's
a
was
decision available data upon wheeli
upon rate estimates could be made
convinced him that the old
rules were madequate insofar
they applied to classifications myoly
ing dust disease hazards
furtheri
decided that the three year reserve pe-
rod was too short that any ranng plan contemplated to appraise adequacy dust
hazards Should be based upon
of the average period of
Defer Action on Plan
ilical action on Firespective FirespectiveFirespctive
appears likely at
piecus
of the commissioners The proposed
plan came before the compensationcompensation Cotier nien on June S and the
Consens was
they were sat
A enough informed on She
S.
amo amo act at this me S.
|4 plan has been refured to a sub
refured buttee which will report back to
Amongthost | meeting meeting
opposed
Superintendent
who
miligent action would come are Study and Cogmanssione
who said that each Mate
official should decide for himself on
tins maatte
ai) tage 1 b
ciber > Me coal
aly of pectal spand the
peate., 100
Up 100 100 a tig
rate
chat euste ed:
proved and afccture life penalties up
spectal
Recessary Recessary
unsured it
subject to the
re~ESTORYBES Tesive re~ESTORYBES increase 10
Fe the than to ap-
the basse and
further felt
apuwed
appuwed
hul give support
fection of workeen
physical
provide
starud credits in the rate rate of the undi-
vidual risks for the establishment establishment of
safety measures and equajment
equajment by the
employer and that such rate system system
should should
also
provide
provide
for
rate
penalties
penalties to
W. Hobbs ReportsReports
Canned from Pare 44
enced a more frequent occurrence of rare reductives and also by the
carance of underwone underwone
gains or
tidaltions duced losses in the tidalations of under-
writing results by calendar year for the
purpose of compounas conimgency load-
to 30 of sus surcharge rates
Kates
al
rides
it
paisumoconiosis
paisumoconiosis
paisumocnios work andate andte Comision
effective June , 1930
Carpenter ordered the
bureau bureau
the basic
upon
ditta soon as
2
covelingpolicy
year 1934
icerived icerived Lass reserves
was
the disease
are
to
be
mamand
against
separately upon the surcharge premums foi a end of seven additional years
statutory beyond the Commissioner
three period
Carpenter also ordered
the conquantes conquantes to calculate the amount
of cats carned upon Califorma
ces under classifications on which a
surcharge was allowed for each of the
pobey years from and including 1927 and
dule, and repor the losses incurred and
paid on account of claims arising from
pcutionoconiosis pcutionoconiosis
pcutionoconiosis
pcutionconiosi Inspection The
Canfora
Bu-
Canfora Rating rean was ordered to preparean endorse-
policies ment
compensation compensation compensation
which
unit compensation would unit them so as to entirely
cled any clam or cost for the hazards of phemmunoconiosis phem unoconiosis so that companies could isse policies excluding the di-
seatured Tan 11 seatured rating operations of
the Council which were an strict con-
sease at the basic rates and without the surcharge surcharge
formity with the pier aproved approved at the
commissioners St Petersburg Conven- Conven-
uan Adunstanton of rates has rates began
in South Carolina and Plonda latest
The to adept a compensation compensation law
states tread kuislative
to bang
having been diseases within the compensation
noted such legislation
charted in the recent sessions
ve and Rhode Island
Hobbs devoted Part 1
1.
Council discussed Part VI contams
a statement of progress in the introduc- introduc-
Don of the unit statistical plan Part
contens a brief description of a plan for retrospective rating adopted by
the rates committee of the National Comel Part VIII contions a statement as to operations under the voluntary plan for dealing with unacceptable risks
repoxi to the subject of ocupational discases and pointed out The
tional Coune Coune has with respect to oc-
cupational disease devised tls rating plan
the
of available experience and
has also been
modify the
Part EX contains a statement asto man-
changes nal
Part X contains a state-
Bicht as to changes in membership
Membership Membership now stands at ninety
a gam of four since the last report said
Mr
Mr Hobbs
accupaten
It discussing the standard voluntary
dalies applical to Rsion of the schedule rat-
plan for coveting risks unable to obtain
coverage coverage
which is 20W aa effect in
other classifications present- present- cleven states Mr Hobbs declared that
that ematuros ematuros and bum this The problem is not a large one and that
has not
packed
waterally towards wateral y
cabzauou cabzauou Report of
operations in the line of
basiell audit and classification jaspec-
tions look
Part IV of the de gens
whde m
the statistical
plan on
114 114 I June 01 Cases HC DISured DISured
does not want coverage when he finds
he has to pay for et.cut show ed forty two risks assigned to date the largest amber m 902 State of
201216 Were subsequently with-
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11 into effect by the drawi