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T.Marnior Page 201. <1 1 it is you want me to read thesalcs 2 reports in the depositipp and 3 crofss-examine.wjth-him and.this is his ,/ -n 4 . work-. ;i;; . . , ; u. 5 MSROSENBERG:- Allilsaidis 6 you've asked him a-very specific > 7 question, and, he'd.like to answer it, ; 8 You shoujd give him the time.to do.it. 9 MR. GIANARIS: He!s got all the 10 time he needs. He'll .tell liiewhen we. 11 run out of time. 12 A. Here is the contrast. .Gontm.ent on 13 the story;.,This is an article called."Asbestos 14 Exposure in Neopias.tatb.which'is JAMA 1964, the . 15 famoUs.articlesj "Comment on the study,that 16 he's done. Carcinoma of the lung;..theTtstilts, 17 with regard to.cafcinomOiof,the liingkthat is 18 to exposure, are clear. 19 "Industrial.exposure.. Industrial 20 exposure asbestos by ,installation Workershas 21 studied here results in a marked:,iucredse in: ,: 22 the instance of cancer ofthe lung. 23 Approximately sis to-seven timestheexpected 24 b.urdena<A(ll,together 4/>>or. 1,7.6fpercenfof 255., 25 men1with more than thoseyea.rs have lapsed.- .; Page 203 1 question asked specifically is there a 2 distinction between fiber types causing 3 mesothelioma and nothing I.heard in the 4 doctor's answer addresses that 5 particular question. So.I move to 6 strike as being not responsive. 7 A. I thought there were two 8 questions. One was the difference in fiber 9 type and the second was uncertainty. 10 MR. GIANARIS: Ijoininyour 11 objection. 1 agree that I asked two 12 questions where I give you an 13 alternative because you told me that 1 14 was misstating, 1 believe. Anyway, my 15 question was about uncertainty between 16 fiber types. 17 Q. Where.did it say in that document. 18 that the chrysotile might not cause 19 mesothelioma? 20 A. It doesn't. It just says it's 21 uncertain as to wbat causes mesothelioma. That 22 is the uncertainty. There is clarity, with 23 respect to one lung cancer and there is less 24 clarity with respect to mesothelioma. What I'm 25 saying is I'm not an.expert in.the causation of Page 202 1 since the. onset.of exposure,died of cancer of 2 thelung or pleura." v. .-;,,-,. 3 , That'spnesidee Then he turns , 4 in the latt.er part to another diffusedJ:p|eura; , 5 orperitonealmalignancyincomparison.He 6 says "Mesothelioma. -Determining the incidence 7 of diffused pieural.mesothelionrois complicated 8 by tbelns.ecurityofsystoiogical y.erjfipation, .. 9 while somespathologistSjwillso, categorize),< 10 high proportion-eMiffnsediplonrnl.tunrorssini,; 11 the, experience of,o.thers,iUs<a, vcryra*e,, ;> 12 tumoran(pnlaybeniimJcked by,*!*,aplastic 13 periphexalcarcinoma.... i v^j', . k.it.-..'.:.; 14 To the present time,,there has .,, ; ; 15 been no.information concerningthe incidence of 16 diffused plural mesothelioma.in asbestosis 17 since the published cases; are. without reference 18 to a total population.'.Nevertheless^ the ; 19 growing number of reports of-individual cases 20 suggests that these tumors are perhaps becoming 21 relatively frequent complications ofasbestbs 22 exposure. I'm contrasting perhaps with clear. 23 MR. KAY; I'm going to.objqct.and 24 move to .strike the doctor'Sfgnswer as , 25 not being responsive,; l;believe the ! Page 204 1 mesothelioma.- I'm not speaking to that. 2 Q. I'm not asking you to 3 interpret 4 A. If I had a lot of time, I would 5 find the distinction between chrysotile and 6 crocidolite.,-But I,didn't think I needed to 7 make that distinction here. I thought.it w;as 8 clear to everybody that that's an area of- ... 9 distinction. 10 Q. Thus far; you've, pointed at two 11 entries out of your 21.4: that you say perhaps 12 point out that, there was a difference 13 between -- that there was an uncertainty 14 regarding the fiber, types that caused 15 mesothelioma. O.kay. -Let me finish my 16 question, please. We've read you reviewed two . 17 of those articles, UCCM 5.1 and UCGM 104. After 18 reviewing them, would you agree with me that 19 there is not a statement in either of them that 20 indicates that in any way that chrysotile might 21 not cause mesothelioma? 22 A., I would put it differently but 23 close to that. I was answering the question as 24 well as uncertainty and causation and you're 25 asking the question of whether there is a POHLMAN REPORTING COMPANY (314)421 -0099 51 (Pages 201 to 204)