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GARY AUSTIN Page 42 \Page 44 1 Q Can you spell that for me? 1 stuck, if there is such a term, to the head and block 2 A C-O-R-A-M-I-C. We began to use engineered feeing 2 surfaces. 3 materials with different designations that were 3 BYMR. VALLAS: 1 4 similar in appearance and nature to the asbestos 4 Q Do you know when the first year is feat Dana Victor 5 containing facings. 5 started using anti-stick coating on its high heat 6 Q I'm sorry, I dropped part of your answer, similar in 7 what? 6 application gaskets? 7 MR. CELBA: Object to form. 8 A Similar in general appearance to the asbestos 8 THE WITNESS: We used a number of different 9 containing gaskets. 9 coatings over the years from the time I started with 10 Q Let me visit with you-- Any others you can think of 11 besides those two categories? 10 fee company. 11 BY MR. VALLAS: 12 A In the 1980s we would have begun to see some graphite 12 Q Okay. Were any of those used in--Were any of those 13 material as well, I believe. 13 used for exhaust manifold head gaskets or intake 14 Q Okay. Let's talk about each one of those categories 14 gaskets that were- Strike the question. Were-1 15 if we can. First of all, the coramic style material, 15 guess in what application? Were those anti-stick 16 if you can explain to me what that is and what it has 16 coatings, were they used on every gasket product you 17 to do with gaskets in high heat applications. 17 all put out or during certain years or only some 18 MR. CELBA: Object to form. 18 during certain years, or how did you all-- 19 THE WITNESS: When we discussed composition 19 A They were used on many different applications over 20 style gaskets, those were gasket materials or feeing 20 the years. | 21 materials that were mounted to some sort of a steel . 21 Q Were there exhaust manifold asbestos containing 1 22 core. Could have been a perforated steel core or 22 gaskets manufactured without the anti-stick coating 23 what we called an upset steel core wife an adhesive 23 between 1977 and 1987? 24 used to bond the facing to fee core. The facing 25 materials, as we moved away from asbestos, fee 24 A Once again, we'd have to look at individual 25 applications. I can't tell you feat every 1 Page 43 Page 45 1 asbestos content was removed and was replaced by 2 other materials. 3 BY MR. VALLAS: 4 Q All right. Would the facing materials for high heat 5 applications, would they be soft or hard, or what 6 were fee facing materials likfe? 7 MR. CELBA: Object to form. 8 THE WITNESS: They were basically a soft 9 paper like facing that was combined with a steel 10 core. 11 BY MR. VALLAS: 12 Q Okay. Would that be something that after use in a 13 high heat application setting might need to be, in 14 other words, scraped off or wire brushed off? In 15 other words, when you were to take that gasket off. 16 might there be some of it sticking to the face or 17 whatever it had been applied to, and you'd have to 18 kind of take it and clean it off, or would those come 19 off intact? 20 MR. CELBA: Object to form. Go ahead. 21 THE WITNESS: Most gaskets have an 22 anti-stick coating of one sort or another that's 23 placed on them. Here again, we get back to the 24 individual application as to whether it might be 25 removed fairly easily or whether it would be more 1 application and every part number would have used a 2 coating. j 3 Q So there were some without it, you just wouldn't be 4 able to say yes or no without particular part 5 numbers; is that right? 6 MR. CELBA: I'm going to object to fee 7 form. Go ahead. 8 BYMR. VALLAS: 9 Q Or if you can tell me. 10 A Without knowing the individual part numbers, I cannot 11 be assured that it did or did not have an anti-stick 12 coating. 13 Q How was fee decision made to put an anti-stick 14 coating on this gasket over here and not on this 15 gasket over here? 16 A That would have been an application engineering 17 decision. 18 Q From your years in working wife Dana Victor are there 19 at least general guidelines feat you can point me 20 to? Like could I mention a particular application 21 for any type of gasket in a high heat setting, and 22 you can tell me, yes, it would have or no, it 23 wouldn't have had some type of anti-stick coating on 24 it, or it would have this year or wouldn't have this j 25 year, or are we absolutely at a place where we would j Henjum Goucher Reporting Services 1-888-656-DEPO 12 (Pages 42 to 45)