Document 71qLN1RqXJ3ypG23EKmdz43mR
VINYL INSTITUTE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
New Orleans Airport Hilton 901 Airline Highway Kenner, Louisiana 70062
Tuesday December 3, 1991 8:00a - 2:20p
Attendees:
Frank Borrelli, Georgia Gulf Corporation Lawrence Brecker, Witco Corp./Argus Division Lee Fishbein, Borden Chemicals & Plastics Donald Goodman, OxyChem Roy T. Gottesman, The Vinyl Institute H. J. "Bud" Hall, Vista Chemical Richard S. Magee, NJ Institute of Technology Louis M. Maresca, BFGoodrich Ron McCreedy, Dow Chemical, USA Debbie Neale, BFGoodrich Company A1 Reventas, Shintech, Inc. Robert S. Strength, Product Safety Management,
Consultant
to Vista
I. Opening of Meetinq/Approval of Minutes of September 12, 1991 Meeting
Executive Director Roy Gottesman, opened the meeting at
8:00 a.m. and advised the group that because of changes
at BFGoodrich, Dr. Charles Bush was no longer associated
with the company and a new chairman will be needed for
the Technical Committee. He advised that he plans to
discuss this with the Executive Committee of the
Institute at their meeting on December 11. He indicated
that, with the approval of Vinyl Institute Chairman John
Russ, he would chair this meeting and possibly the next
meeting of the Technical Committee until a new chairman
is named.
There next followed a round of self
introductions.
The minutes of the September 12, 1991 meeting were approved as received on motion of Bud Hall, seconded by Larry Brecker.
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II. III.
2 Objectives of Meeting
Roy Gottesman indicated that the objectives of this meeting were:
1. To review all existing projects including status, problems and funding.
2. To discuss new items for consideration as possible projects by the Committee.
3. To review the current budget status.
4. To consider items for next year's Technical Committee budget.
5. To agree upon a meeting date and place for the next Committee meeting.
Project Reviews
A. Fire Sciences
1. Combustion and Toxicology
An ASTM Task Force (E5.21) is scheduled to
resolve the negative ballot on the NIBS
protocol at a meeting in San Diego on December
9. Roy Gottesman distributed a reprint of an
article from the Journal of Fire Sciences.
September/October, 1991, entitled "A Critical
Evaluation of the Proposed NIBS Toxicity Test"
by Drs. Clarke and Hirschler. The critique
was developed under VI sponsorship about two
years ago.
Mr. Hall indicated that he
believes the prognosis of resolving the
negative ballot is poor.
In behalf of the Vinyl Institute, Marcelo Hirschler voted negatively on ASTM-5.21 which is a modification of the NIST Test developed by Dr. Steve Packham. In voting negatively. Dr. Hirschler pointed out that this was due to a lack of a correction factor on carbon monoxide and the fact that no method for data evaluation was provided in the protocol. With these corrections, Bud Hall indicates that the Packham Test will likely be approved in the ASTM process.
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Bud Hall reviewed the activity of a New York
City Toxicity Advisory Council which appears
to be favoring the adoption of the New York
State (modified Alarie) protocol. However, he
voiced concern over a proposal that has been
introduced by the Carpet and Rug Institute
which uses the concept of an area rather than
a concentration, i.e., LA^ vs. LC?0. This
proposal was developed in consultation with
Rosalind Anderson and Dr. Alarie appeared at
the last meeting of this committee in behalf
of the Carpet and Rug Institute. While no
decision has yet been made by New York City,
SPI is considering offering a recommendation
of its own for the testing protocol to be
adopted by New York City.
Dr. Frederick
Clarke is the SPI representative on this
Council.
2. Corrosion
The negative ballots that have been received on the NIBS test (E5.21.70) advocated by "Hank" Roux and the Cone Calorimeter test (D9.21.4) proposed by DuPont will be discussed at the ASTM meeting on December 9 in San Diego. Both of these tests are expected to pass. Bud Hall indicated his preference for the D9.21.4 test which he believes will become a standard test within two-three months. Further he voiced his opinion that the entire corrosion issue is one that is being driven by the plastics industry. He noted that he does not see a lot of demand from either customers or the public for such testing.
A test protocol for corrosion testing (see
Appendix A) was discussed. This would involve
a comparison of various PVC wire and cable
compounds and competitive materials in a
modified NIBS Cone Calorimeter and Cone
Corrosiviter test program.
The estimated
total costs are approximately $52,000 with the
testing to be carried out at BFGoodrich
Company. There were a number of guestions
regarding the costs including the requested
fee of $10,000 by Safety Engineering
Laboratories (Dr. M. Hirschler) for program
management, consultation, data assessment, and
report preparation.
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There was discussion on the probable outcome of this testing. There will be obtained data, currently not available, which will compare the performance of PVC versus other materials such as polyolefins and fluoropolymers. It was agreed that such information would be used to promote the best PVC wire and cable materials based on the data obtained but not for competitive materials "bashing".
Following discussion, the Committee agreed unanimously to carrying out this program at a cost not to exceed $50,000. If this cost is in excess of $50,000, Bud Hall will inform the Technical Committee. In agreeing upon this approach, the following assignments were made:
a. Dr. Maresca will confirm the BFGoodrich costs.
b. Mr. Hall will confirm the cost to be paid to Safety Engineering Laboratories including the basis for the $10,000 management fee, negotiating if it appears realistic for a lower fee.
c. Dr. Magee will review the experimental
program, critique this and make any
suggestions with
regard
to
the
experimental design.
Attention next shifted to a letter received from Carl Tripp of the Polyolefins Fire Performance Council dated October 15. In this letter, the Vinyl Institute was invited to join the latest round of testing to be carried out by the Polyolefins Fire Performance Council using the proposed D.9 protocol. After discussion, it was agreed that it is in the Vinyl Institute's best interest to join this effort and to have two samples evaluated in this program.
The following actions were agreed to:
a. Roy Gottesman will advise Carl Tripp that
The Vinyl Institute will jpin in this latest round and will submit two advanced performance vinyl materials.
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b. Lou Iteresca will identify the best Flexel material to be included in this program and will advise Roy Gottesman of same.
c. Bud Hall will identify the best Plene)$ material to be included in this program and will also advise Roy Gottesman.
In advising Carl Tripp of this decision, Roy will inquire as to the quantity of material needed and where it is to be shipped and will advise Lou Haresca and Bud Hall so that they can transmit samples.
3. Factory Mutual
Bud Hall indicated that he had contacted Archie Tewarson who had agreed to submit a protocol and the reason for Factory Mutual's wanting to carry out this evaluation in their calorimeter. As this has not been received, no samples have been submitted and no further action is planned unless Mr. Tewarson provides the protocol.
4. IEC - '89
Drafts of four corrosion tests (NIBS, ASTM D9.21, CNET, and DIN) and four toxicity tests (NIBS, NIST, DIN and a modified DIN test with no animals) are being prepared and will be submitted at a May, 1992 meeting of IEC '89 to be held in Ottawa. These drafts are expected to be completed by the end of this calendar year.
5. HC1 Decay Modeling
This work still remains to be completed at Goodrich and it was requested the Dr. Maresca look into this situation.
Assignment
Lou Maresca will determine the estimated completion date and likely . costs for completion of the work on the modeling of HCl Decay.
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Bud Hall indicated that he has some indication
of a possible problem with this program. SPI
was initially involved and over a three-year
period contributed almost $1,000,000.
It
appears that the program may be floundering at
the present time and Lou Maresca will
investigate this.
Assignment
Dr. Maresca is to check with Marcelo Hirschler and others intimately involved with this program at BFGoodrich to determine the status of the NFPA Fire Risk Assessment program.
7. NFPA/NEC
This code panel hearing in December will finalize the NEC proposals with a final vote scheduled for May, 1992. It is expected that some optional designations, vis. LS LHR will be accepted.
8. BOCA - Vinyl Siding Issue
Bud Hall indicated that due to the excellent work of Rich Gottwald of SPI, PVC siding has been reinstated in the BOCA code and a significant victory has been achieved.
B. Solvent Cement Issue fSCAOMD)
Don Goodman serves as vice-chairman of an ad hoc
group established on the solvent cement issue as
related to proposed regulations by the South Coast
Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD).
He
indicated that the deadlines for compliance with
new regulations which would require reduction of
volatile organics from 850 grams/ltr. to 250
grams/ltr. by the end of 1992 appear to be real.
He noted that matching funding to the initial grant
of $25,000 by the Vinyl Institute has spurred
contributions from PPFA, individual manufacturers
of solvents and some solvent cement manufacturers.
However, contributions have not been forthcoming
from either pipe manufacturers or fabricators.
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As a result of recent meetings with SCAQMD in
California, it appears that a participatory and cooperative effort to arrive at a realistic test
protocol and standard is not likely to happen and that, in fact, an adversarial relationship is more likely to be the outcome.
Don Goodman described the FMC static test and
indicated that a functional test has not yet been
developed.
The techniques used by FMC in the
development of these tests are seriously flawed in
Don's opinion.
He noted that approximately 10-20% of the solvent
contained in the cement is lost upon application
and that approximately 50% of the solvent is lost
within two days. A significant change at SCAQMD
has been their agreement that solvent is retained
in the joint and this can amount to 30-60% of the
solvent cement.
Don further noted that cement
suppliers are showing diligence in attempting to
reduce the solvent levels in their products.
In the coming year, he indicated the technical program will involve studies around the material balance to determine where solvent emissions to the atmosphere occur. Included here would be attempts to design a container/applicator which would minimize air emissions. He also indicated that consultations would continue with SCAQMD on an applied test. Work to define alternative joining systems would also be involved.
In other areas, he proposed continuing to network within the industry, to coach SCAQMD on applications and to begin a communications/lobbying campaign.
With regard to next year, Don Goodman proposed that a continuation of the Vinyl Institute funding of $25,000 be included in the next fiscal year (FY'92'93 budget).
Don further noticed that reproductive toxicity looms as a big issue with components of solvent cements and that he would be attending a meeting at NSF on December 4 on this issue.
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The following assignment was agreed to:
Don Goodman will request that Dick Church of PPFA issue a financial statement on funds received vs. expenses incurred.
Because of its relationship to the solvent cement issue, Roy Gottesman briefly discussed the current status of the California EIR involving contacts with the Housing and Community Development Department as well as SRI to develop a defensible environmental impact report.
C. Incineration - Swedish/Norwecrian Studies
Dr. Magee provided an historical view on the work carried out relative to incineration of municipal solid waste containing PVC. Despite the Pittsfield Study, across Europe there continues to be a wide spread perception that the presence of PVC in municipal solid waste is responsible for increased emissions of dioxins and furans. The studies being carried out the University of Umea in Sweden and at the Norwegian Center for Industrial Research (SI) confirm the definition of the role that vinyl plays in emissions of dioxins/furans and consequently to gain a greater acceptance for incineration of PVC in the European community. A steering committee consisting of incineration experts (including Prof. Alfons Beukens from Belgium, Prof. H. Vogg in Germany, Prof. Christofer Rappe from Sweden and Dr. Magee) has been established to guide this program.
Dick Magee reported that the third steering committee meeting was held in Gotenborg, Sweden on November 4 and 5 and was attended by Roy Gottesman and he at which time both the Swedish and Norwegian projects were reviewed.
The Swedish project has been delayed by six months due to problems encountered in cooling the exit gases from the pilot incinerator. A new revised cooling train including the potential for cooling by water via a concentric tube heat exchanger has now been fabricated and is undergoing testing. Agreement was reached to start stage one of this experimental program using the existing supply of feed pellets to verify incinerator operation, stability, memory effects and reproducibility. This should be completed by the end of 1991. A discussion of the pellet feedstock for stage two
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led to a decision to use pellets that will be newly prepared in which gelatin (in place of bone meal which can contribute to ash), iron sulfate hydrate (to replace iron), copper sulfate (to replace copper chloride) at a reduced level and water to desirably a 20-30% level will be used.
There was agreement on the ultimate test plan for stage two experiments using the newly prepared feed pellets which will not get started until February, 1992. Six runs in triplicate are to be carried out involving normal waste with approximately 1% chlorine down to low levels of chlorine (about 0.1.). The pellets are to be analyzed to assure that homogeneity and desired metal levels have been reached.
Dr. Magee indicated that he believes the Swedish study is moving in the right direction. The Umea team will issue monthly reports hereafter.
The following assignment was made:
1. Dick Magee will check with the Swedish workers to assure that monthly reports are issued.
2. Roy Gottesman will discuss the receipt of monthly reports with Dr. Werner Freiesleben in telephone contact on December 9.
With regard to the Norwegian project, the small combustor has been redesigned and rebuilt with a four-jet tangential inlet of preheated air at the bottom and an extended feed inlet tube, which appears to improve combustion. Nevertheless, the off-gas analysis shows spikes of carbon monoxide indicating the necessity for better control of the feed, possibly with a continuous feeding mechanism.
In the Norwegian work, radioactive PVC with Cl36 was
made by isotopic exchange from PVC in solution and
approximately a 50% chlorine substitution was
achieved.
Dick Magee voiced his view that the
Norwegian study will not be of any great value.
While it will focus on the distribution of
radioactive chlorine, both organic and inorganic,
to alleged dioxins/furan precursors, it is not
directly linked with the Swedish study. However, it
may be useful in analyzing and interpreting Swedish
precursor gas measurements.
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The next review meeting is scheduled to be held in
Umea in early April, 1992 and Dick Magee and Roy
Gottesman will plan to attend.
Dick Magee
projected completion of both studies by the end of
1992.
The group agreed to include an additional $10,000 in the budget for support of this study during FY'92 --7 93.
Dick Magee indicated that he had received the first version of a literature review on methods to control or recycle hydrogen chloride carried out by a graduate student at NJIT. He noted that this study needs more work including an evaluation of methods that are applicable.
The following assignment was made:
Dick Magee to develop a proposal for HCl recovery including costs and timing.
A memorandum from Gabe Lefebvre to Fred Krause relating to some work on the development of a dioxin suppression inhibitor by Diochem, a company in Waterloo, Ontario, was discussed. Apparently this inhibitor for dioxin formation during incineration is being tested in Europe.
The following assignment was made:
Dick Magee is to contact Dr. Frank Karasek at the
University of Waterloo to gain further information
regarding this development.
(It could be of
interest for incorporation in the Swedish
incineration studies.)
D. Life Cycle Analysis - Chem Systems Draft Report
Roy Gottesman discussed his meetings in Europe with
Dr. Vince Matthews of the Plastics Waste Management
Institute and Dr. Ian Boustead concerning the Chem
Systems draft report.
Dr. Matthews expressed
concern that the Chem Systems energy analysis which
was based on 1980 work by Kinder and Nikles of BASF
is flawed and has been discredited. Further, Dr.
Boustead indicated that the data for glass plants
was out of date, the literature review was "very
thin", the information is dated and the report, if
issued unchanged, could reduce Chem Systems
credibility.
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For these reasons, Roy Gottesman indicated that he had asked Ron Cascone of Chem Systems, Inc. to hold any further work on the report.
In the interim, the report is to undergo review in Europe by Dr. Boustead, Dr. Gustaf Sundstrom in Sweden, and Dr. Paul Fink at EMPA in Switzerland, all recognized experts in the LCA field.
Further, Roy Gottesman indicated that he had been in contact with Dr. Boustead providing him with a copy of Ron Cascone's paper at an IRI conference in Washington in September as well as the diskette supplied by Chem Systems on their LCA program.
Further, he has asked Dr. Matthews to be sure that the three European consultants provide specific details in their critique so that we can have Chem Systems evaluate what it would take to have their report put into a final form that considers the inputs and concerns of the European experts.
As a result of this, the final publication of the Chem Systems report will be delayed until the input is received from the European peer reviewers.
E. Medical/Health Effects
In a memo to Chuck Bush dated November 5, Bob Hinderer indicated that completion is nearing on the efforts to develop three additional manuscripts for the publication of the toxicity studies on primates and rodents to both HCl and PVC. Bob Hinderer indicated that he is hopeful that all papers will be ready for publication by the end of 1991.
Bob Hinderer has the continuing assignment to develop a compendium of significant publications relating to fire gas toxicity in the burning of PVC.
The following assignment was made:
Roy Gottesman took the assignment to contact Bob Hinderer to determine when this compendium can be expected to be completed.
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IV. update on VIGOR (Recycling) Activities
Roy Gottesman updated the group on the recent activities of The Vinyl Institute Group on Recycling (VIGOR) which is aimed at assuring the commercial recycling of vinyl plastics as part of the overall industry program.
He reviewed activities in the area of collection including the Nashville program at Steiner-Liff involving the establishment of a pilot program at three drop-off centers, the collection of vinyl siding in Rhode Island, the continuing efforts by member companies including Borden in Baton Rouge. The vinyl siding program with Shuman in the Northeast is to be reestablished.
He further discussed the various separation sortation
projects including the program at NRT relating to the
necessity for work in the reverse sort mode, and the
cost, i.e., pricing of the NRT units.
He further
discussed a proposal developed in a program with the
Council for Solid Waste Solutions to handle the third
bale. A task group has developed an excellent business
plan. The industry group has also agreed to proceed in
forming a consortium for an "auto sort demonstration
facility". This program is to be reviewed at a December
5 meeting and will be presented to the Vinyl Institute
Board at its meeting on December 12.
A proposal has also been developed to sponsor the
installation of an automatic sorting device in Florida in
order to overcome opposition to continued use of vinyl
packaging by Senator Kirkpatrick. A meeting date to
present this proposal to the Senator is to take place on
December 5 with Bill Carroll participating.
The
selection of a site for this program would be made by
Senator Kirkpatrick via a response to a request for
proposal (RFP) which has been prepared by the Vinyl
Institute.
Proposals are being obtained both from
MSS/ASOMA and NRT to determine which of these devices
would be included in the facility.
Also reviewed were the programs at DevTech/Carpco and the froth flotation technology to finally clean up PET from any PVC contamination.
Reclamation and clean up has been established in individual company efforts including conventional grind/wash/dry systems. Melt filtration is being worked on by individual companies with a commercial facility
capable of handling all industry production expected to be available by year end.
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Finally, Roy Gottesman noted that he has given a number of talks on the recycling of vinyl in order to publicize these activities. At this stage, it appears that while
vinyl recycling is a technical success, the amounts obtainable from MSW are extremely low and the economics appear prohibitive to support a large-scale commercial vinyl recycling effort.
V. New Business
A. Sensory Irritation Studies
Roy Gottesman advised the group of continued
contact with Anderson Laboratories, Inc. relating
to their development of a method for estimating
sensory irritancy of airborne chemicals.
He
indicated some questions of the validity of the
testing procedure but, inasmuch as this now appears
to be going through the ASTM process, he
recommended the formation of a subcommittee from
the Technical Committee to participate in the ASTM
process for establishing a standard procedure for
evaluating the off-gassing of materials in the
built environment, including vinyl products. He
expressed his concerns that unless we participate
in such a program, we could end up with a test
procedure that is prejudicial to vinyl materials.
The following assignments were made:
1. Roy Gottesman will provide Lee Fishbein with all of the background materials on this subject that he has.
2. Lee Fishbein is to explore participation in this process by the Columbus Coated Fabrics Division of Borden.
B. Epidemiologic Study on Workers Exposed to VCM
Roy Gottesman advised that a report of this study which appeared the September American Journal of Industrial Medicine was based on workers exposed to vinyl chloride prior to January, 1973. Review of this by Drs. Hinderer and Drumwright indicated that this is an old study under the sponsorship of the Chemical Manufacturers Association and was reported
by Dr. Otto Wong without CMA approval.
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C. ATSDR Revised Priority List
On October 17, the Agency for Toxic Substances and
Disease Registry published a revised list of
hazardous substances found at hazardous waste
sites.
This list includes vinyl chloride.
A
review of the document indicates that it has been
significantly changed over the original draft
version of this document. The report identifies
additional data that is needed for some 38
hazardous substances.
The following assignment was made:
Frank Borrelli will see that the Health, Safety and Environment Committee determines whether a response by the Vinyl Institute will be made and how this is to be carried out.
Partnership for Plastics Progress
Roy Gottesman organization, activities.
provided a brief update its funding mechanism
on this new and planned
Budget Review
A. Current Year
Roy Gottesman reported that Technical Committee
activities billed through October 31, 1991 totalled
$51,830.
Considering
known
anticipated
expenditures to the end of the current fiscal year,
it appears that expenditures in the area of
$179,000 would be within the total approved budget
for the Committee of $187,500 for FY /91-/92.
B. Development of FY /92-/93 Budget
The group discussed and agreed upon the following listing of projects and expenditures to be included in a preliminary budget for FY '92-'93.
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Item
Dollars
Fire/Combustion Studies including
$ 50,000
Consultants & Monitoring
Incineration Studies including support
20,000
of European Work
Incineration Related Work
25,000
Evaluation of Incineration Costs
and Retrofitting
HC1 Scrubbing
Revision of LCA Report
20,000
Ad Hoc Solvent Cement Project
25,000
Sensory Irritation Studies (Identifying 10,000
an Academic mission to follow these
studies)
Medical/Health Compendium -- Editorship 15,000
and Publication
Contingency (Nonspecified Projects)
10.000
TOTAL
$175,000
Roy Gottesman indicated that he would send this budget to all committee members in early January with a request that they advise him if they have any other additional items to be considered for inclusion in the budget.
Review of Assignments
Frank Borrelli
See that the Health, Safety and Environment Committee determines whether a response by the Vinyl Institute will be made to the ATSDR listing of vinyl chloride and how this is to be carried out.
Lee Fishbein
Explore participation in the ASTM process to establish a standard procedure for evaluating the off-gassing of materials in the built environment, including vinyl products, with the Columbus Coated Fabrics Division of Borden.
Don Goodman
Request that Dick Church of PPFA issue a financial statement on funds received vs. expenses incurred by the Ad Hoc Committee on solvent cements.
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1. Provide Lee Fishbein with all of the background
materials on the sensory irritation studies that he has.
2. Advise Carl Tripp that The Vinyl Institute will join in the latest round of testing to be carried out by the Polyolefins Fire Performance Council and will submit two advanced performance vinyl materials.
3. Discuss the receipt of monthly reports regarding the Swedish Incineration project with Dr. Werner Freiesleben in telephone contact on December 9.
4. Contact Bob Hinderer to determine when the compendium of significant publications relating to fire gas toxicity in the burning of PVC can be expected to be completed.
Bud Hall
1. Confirm the cost to be paid to Safety Engineering Laboratories including the basis for the $10,000 management fee, negotiating if it appears realistic for a lower fee.
2. Identify the best Plenes^ material to be included in the testing program carried out by the Polyolefins Fire Performance Council and will also advise Roy Gottesman.
Dick Magee
1. Review the experimental corrosion testing program, critique this and make any suggestions with regard to the experimental design.
2. Check with the Swedish workers to assure that monthly reports are issued.
3. Develop a proposal for HC1 recovery including costs and timing.
4. Contact Dr. Frank Karasek at the University of Waterloo to gain further information regarding the development of a "dioxin" inhibitor. It could be of interest for incorporation in the Swedish incineration studies.
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Lou Maresca
1. Confirm the BFGoodrich costs on the corrosion testing program.
2. Identify the best Flexel material to be included in testing carried out by the Polyolefins Fire Performance Council and will advise Roy Gottesman of same.
3. Determine the estimated completion date for the HC1 Decay Modeling and likely costs for completion of the work.
4. Check with Marcelo Hirschler and others intimately involvad with the NFPRF program at BFGoodrich to determine the status of the NFPA Fire Risk Assessment program.
Meeting Date and Place
The next meeting of the Technical Committee will take place on Thursday, March 12, 1992 at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark. The group will meet for dinner the prior evening. Further details will be provided when arrangements are completed.
Ad-iournmant
The meeting was adjourned at 2:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted.
Roy /T. Gottesman
RTG/bg Enc.
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