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1 yes. Page 2935 2 Q Okay. Could you tell the jury something 3 about those studies? 4 A In 1980, General Motors research had three 5 publications come out. They were by Williams and 6 Muhlbier. And research sponsored a study from 7 Research Triangle Park by Chalk and Carter. 8 And now, those two studies were done using 9 more sophisticated technique than Dr. Jacko and I had 10 used on our earlier studies. 11 What they basically did was they built a 12 small environmental chamber around a brake dynamometer 13 so they did not have to use room air to supply the 14 brake. 15 And as I understand it, one of the concerns 16 of the EPA was to get some better understanding about 17 longer fiber emissions from the brake since in our 18 study we could not say what length of fiber came from 19 the brake lining because there were as long fibers in 20 ambient air as there were on the brake wear debris. 21 Q Now, are you familiar with the results of