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72 29th Motional Safety Congress about H. It vwy unfair, I think, to expect 5j000 oca m a plant to be very hippy stem wearing goggles all day fang and do a good jab if yon do no* render this nn'ta ibt I am taSkmtr about. which gives you more* trouble than anything ebr. CHAIRMAN CAMERON: MY- harm** answered your question yet; we are still hoping that we may get the answer. "Cafeteria** Service MR. WARZALA: f few that. Mr. Chatman. I think that ex agy uxCcfitgenl div- CHAIRMAN CAMERON; I tHnk maybe we have aiaubei answer here to lint same qootioQ while we are cm tv Mr. Sint?* son. of the Caterpillar Tractor Company, 1 think las a cafeteria wagon that goes around and fit* goggle*. Will yea tcO them about that. Mr. Simpson? H. S. SIMPSON; W* have the praUem of same 160 or I/O acres of paopernr. of which 70 acres are cowed with huihfings. These is a Va of walking involved. Wc pay people to work, and if they are in the tad: end t`i die shaft wr figured that we roafd *aw muny bv u/rng a posh cart, Eke one cussion of the goggle question, we onglii to make some distinction between goggle* that arc used m (dams where corrosive liquids are handled and plants that do not Isandle them. On the train cmning to Qucago I (word about an mtrrefting accident- An criice girl was sitting down doing her work, and another girt standing In bach of her was handing her a pictr of paper. In talong k, mhdcHow the sheet of paper Jil her jt It tame right across the baD of the ?. Tltc pH natnraQy Kinked her eye and con tinued working and did not report - to the medial dtpirtoHJtf that day. She reported the following day and by that time mice- of those ice cream carts w ith a loi of <fishrictiant*. etc. That can is to circulation in each dhrtsiun contmoaUy on cadi shift The operator of a cart goes right down an aisle and stop* and talk* to the machine operator, or whoever the person might be. One of ibo*e icnricr men will cover from 100 to ISO employees per shift. There are fire people doing that. It means chat I couturoally hare my Hands on the focal point of that many conversations with that nom* employees. There are a lot of duplications, lion had set m. and f tmdttnand that thr jnrt right now h m the Eye and Ear Hos pital. in \r York Chy. When you are handling corrosive mate* rials the pUtn eye gfaus kind of a guggle win not do. Neither win the cup goggle with veaxitatton. rial tv. with screens, baffles or :Hltrr thing*. Wt have used the nd-xaH. shake guggle*, bat three is a cumptaim against them. It is a small goggle that fits tightly over tbe eye. The frame is fitted with box it pvd one a very good opportunity to know what the feeling is on certain things. It gives you.a rather rapid retain on the water. When the goggle togs up and you cannot see. you just shake your head and the water in the goggle washes it off. There fitting*. is distortion of virion, headaches, and a lot On this fitting proporixioo and on prescrip tion glasses, ottr safety glasses do fit very definitely into the program, hot thor thenmetres are not the total answer. The jcogjttr manufacturer carmen make brains for your men. of 4her things. Now these rvblwr cup naggle* ewer the eyes completely, but they are not satisfactory. So in any discussion of goggles that anybody rmXtax ] chooM like to sec a distmetmo drawn. Let os talk ahmn goggle* for nOBXorrosiee materials and pecks for conosKt materials. Wednesday night five of our executives rtew hi here, and die top man of the group Had his safety glasses <i. He had gotten 1S5 miles away from the plant and lad not tboaglit of them yet--so they' most haw hurt hi* eyes wry much. In decentcring. ore hair aa overall geometric sign through the renter of the tens and quite often we can deemter two mffluwcters each tray. We Qa to go a little to the outside. but if at go too far. oa the second stuff whore we have artificial ifhnmnatioa we get baeft CghtinB Suggested Committee Study CHAIRMAN* CAMERON: Ld w al Mr*. McrriD a questiou. WooM it be pos* sibfe to set op a technical sobcommittce widths the National Society that could study litis problem dniing the year and report hack to the Congress next year, or if there is a report in the meantime. cuoM h be made available to the National Safety Coun cil? Bye JVoiociio* 73 MRS. MERRILL: I think, if wc can have the cooperation of oar Industrial Ad* visoty Oumnittrc and of tbe Safety Direc tor*. Uat it woold be passible through the National Society to cany a dealing of that information and to assemble material CHAIRMAN CAMERON: How doe* that sound to yoa folks in tbe audience? MR- BOYLE: I was in the Wfcfis Morrell plant at Elmira to get the result of an eye survey. This was prior to the time they made physical rxitnhartiocs of employees. A Dumber of acridaas bad occurud and they found that two employees were totally blind in one eye and did not know H. I will ask the lady if she has ever had that ex perience. MRS. MERRILL: ! think for that par ticular question, the leader of the discussion ttugbs want to ask someone else for an an swer. CHAIRMAN CAMERON: Ye*. I bare quite a few questions fast on physical exaxnmatxxts and how mad* stress should be laid on the eye*. Let's ay to settle das equipment problem If we cm. la there any body to the audience who has made a home made goggle or something rise that answers this caustic and corrosive problem? Mitring Experience AT AMRAM (Hamfin & Co* New York Gty): Wc have boro discussing eye protec tion for various industries, and I dare say the iuduiio m whkfa ihqy hare more acddents than m>vhur rise h the immng tndastry* According to Dr. Davidson, 3 per cart tore defective virion, a bigg percent age than m apy other industry'. I should Eke to go on record as saying that I do out quite agree with the enum^ut riot this is perhaps due to inferior mtelBgtoce. In my vok, which takes me to a few aims -I m not a mine inspector but nevertheless it is one of my dttics and ( am refeniiqt to southeastern Missouri, to Utah, and Nevada I find that tbe noser is just a mtriligoit as any industrial worker. Wc have the gieaten difficulty, especially out in the vnstcre nmti to get the proper type of protection. 1 might perhaps ittoatrate that by a later I hare just received from a mine superimendeui who t* oat hx California. He says: "Referring to our convermriao in reganl to malang our men wear gugalu. *t wish to speed this matter all passible. We just bad another very htla experience; one of ottr men had a little dust n bis eye and tbe local doctor treated it for about ten dayi" I might my that e are eighty sales away from any doctor, or at least from any eye specialist. The tatu continues: "As he did pot improve, we son bun to a specialist and he reports that the man will bare permanett impaired virion; probably due to improper ticaunqil A* we told you, 60 per cent of our aciidcuts are eye trouble earned by dost and if we can find rqnyb* that can be worn nadcigiound without f<Yi;r"f we want to start using them at once/* Wed, 1 thought of a friend of tame, a superintendent of a mine, trim had had a great deal of trouble getting the men to wear tbe right type of goggles, but be finally thought that be had solved the problem; so I wrote to him so that I could inform oar mutual friend in Cafiionxia what he had done. This is riot he says: "At ox tunc we thought we had solved the problem with a certain type of ghs goggle, hot H unutd out that doe to eertam air amcm* and conditions these goggles only worked satisfactorily to one place. With the same men wearing the same goggles and bring transferred to another part of rite mine, the glass fogged up immediately and h was impossible to use them successfully. "These glass guggle* are modi more sat isfactory where there is a perceptible mowetxKxji of air, as tt seems to take cart of the fogging. "We stiU use m most eases a very erode wire goggle, which yon are perfectly famil iar with and we all consider very crude.'* DR. M. DAVIDSON: Mr. Chairman, may I say that I did not mean to reflect on tbe fliteUquiee of miner*. I used that word beeaose Mr. Murray, who reported tut fmdcnsA explained the eye incidence among miner* on that basis and 1 was just quoting him. A. H. TRESTRAIL (Pkkaods. Mather & Co* Caspan. Mich.): I have been in mining ahum twenty-^szae year*. When wv first started ova we had the goggle question. Wc StxU have it somewhat. At first we tried to get men in certain oreupauon* to wear goggle*, and stile we saved some eyes that