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FILE NAME: Asbestos Information Association (AIA)
DATE: 1979 Mar30
DOC#: AIA032
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Memo to AIA/NA Legal Research Committee Report from Asbestos Associated Disease at US Shipyards Conference
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March 30, 1979
^EMOftAflDOM TO FROM: RE'
Asbestos information Association/^. Legal Research Committee
Carey Z* Gross
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C&dwalader, Wickersham & Talt
Asbestos-Associated Disease* V^th Particular Reference to U.S. Shipyards, a Conference at the Mount Sinai Medical wetter
Rgvember.21-29 } 1 M JL.------- TM~-
. . on November 27, 28 and 29, 1978 1 attended a conference given at the Poet-Graduate School of Medicine of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in Mew York. The conference waa a post-graduate course and was part-of the 1973-1979 program of the Uni verity's Occupational Safety and Health Education Center, supported by the National
Institute'for Occupational Safety and Health.
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Approximately 300 People attended the conference,
roughly broken dow* as fi'on'lnlorwisK.* *}*# ealoeucCtiQorn-s,* ,,v &ti0?nSiV5> t
w<f 2(!* *onr. * i o n m m *. <**'" *'" * * "S U I M V . . < * * * * 0 * 0 M r . Ut.r.Wo*
. i d .* 0 c o n f i n e * of bv oarttoiiint it the mierenie and do not necessertlsr
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. Much of ths presentation was medically oriented,
with a lot Qt attention to historical data and epidemiological
studies. Dr, Irving J, Selikoff and Dr. Kaye H. Kilo urn
directed the conference. A raajorxty of the speakers seemed to
turaet the^r presentations to the needs and situations of
plaaotiifs in aba3bos~'related disease litigation,
Tde first day of the conference involved vary little
''new" information, I sensed that many metalers of the audience
were new to this area and a thorough historical presentation
was being made for their benefit- Events and studies with
which we are all familiar wore presented and emphasized.
$he conference began with an introduction by Dr, Selikoff,
quoting the August 8, 197$ statement of HEW; approximately a-u million workers have been exposed to asbestos...1,5 to 2.5
million are now being exposed.,,effect of exposure won't appear for 15 to 30 years."
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Without being exhaustive , same of tf.s r.&aas and dates
that ware pretented in that first day of the conference were;
C D 190? - Or. H. Montague Murray reported first recorded death of asbestosis in Great Britian; {2 $ 1930 - first case report
-study on asbestos! in C.S.JL, exposure was IniSouth Africa;
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1955 - Wright pioneered analysis of pulmonary function patterns; and (5 ) X95? ~ 0 !Donnell and Viarb called attention to lung
cancer (in 13 out of 2? cates in hospital rr&ar factory, lung
cancers were in the lower lobe).
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Further's many general statements about asbestos-related diseases re made, Exaaplcs are; CL'} changes in normalcy of x-rays are largely seen after long latency period - approximately 20 years; (2 ) one out of every five Insulation workers in this country dies of lung cannery (3) historically * cancer has been seen much more in the lower lobes of the lungs and linings instead of the non-peritoneum and higher in the lung where those carcinomas normally occur; and (t 5 asbestos-re 1ate1 cancers are often beyond the skill of a surgeon's knife (autopsy photos supporting this proposition were,presented),, Dr. Salikoff stated that recent data shows & statistically significant increase in the appearance of carcinomas in the larynx, pharynx, and kidney in'asbestos workers. The clinical latency period for these cancers appears to be roughly 15 to to plus years.
hr, Selikoff feels' that the real' problem with exposure to asbestos is cancer not sstjestosisA significant factor In this area is the end product uge, Dr, Sellkoff seems to feel that workers in companies manufacturing asbestos-containing end products have more health problems than those in the production arid mining'segment of the industry. .
Dr.. Selikoff asserted that, in 1 3 5 $ doctors began -to see mesothelioma cases in workers exposed tef only amesita.
This was suprising, since eprllet' medical opinion .held that mesothelioma was caused by crysot lie exposure . References were; Waner~X97^British Journal of Medicine, and Molly few-house. Re further asserted that brief exposure to asbestos', if excessive, nay be as hazardous as long term exposure to lower concentrations. Emphasis was placed on reports that an
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increased incidence of cancer was found in workers whc had been
exposed to asbestos for only one day &v the Patterson plant
(such workers wore purpox'te&iy exposed to very high dust levels
and had conditions),
Another aspect of- asbestos-related diseases .was
discussed by Dr. Selikaff. In the profession it- is now called
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'^bystanders" disease,, fhis does not refer to those working
directly with asbestos-containing materials. Bather, bystanders
are individuals who contract an asbestos-related disease with
out primary occupational exposure to asbestos-containing materials.
U'hose are generally, but not necessarily;, family members of the
asbestos worker,
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Pr, Sslikoff summarised lessons concerning asbestos-
related diseases learned during the last 15 years:
1. Doae-disaase response relationships
2. Pre-eminence of cancer is replacing ssbestosls;
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3 . Pleural xeaotkelicma presenting with scant
exposures; .
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>4. Importance of end-product use; and
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glass fibers can cause th same mesothelioma as is seen in
humans exposed to asbestos, However, it is. riot yb known if the
results will appear in humane exposed to glass fibers.
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1 Dr, Nicholson assented that, in the shipbuilding industry, those associated with thermal insulation have the greatest chance of contracting asbestos-related diseases- The"speaker emphasised importance of the total working environment, rather than just the particular trade. The prevalence of fibers and dust throughout the shipyard lst according to Dr, Nicholson, evidenced in abnormalities among all shipyard workers. Guards without previous yard jobs and draftsmen without any experience in the yards have teen diagnosed as having some of the. asbestosrelated diseases. It is estimated that approximately 4-1/2 million different individuals were employed in shipyards during World War 21*
Dr, Seilkoff dlsoussed the fact that researchers have seen in utero transfer*of asbestos exposure in animals but not in humans. He also asserted that children of workers who ip. contract asbestos-related diseases show symptoms; 20-30 years after birtn. The atsumptier, is teat tney Inhaled fibers in their home, probably carried by their father's clothing or hair or tody, not from in utero exposure. Dr. Selikoff noted that exposure cannot re-ally be stopped once a single 'exposure has occurred because the inhaled, fibers continue to expose the lungs end the lung lining.
The speakers pointed cut that, for laymen reading some of the epidemiological data, it la important to understand the "healthy worker effect" 1 general, the best comparison for all studies is the H.S. population data. But for the first
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five, years of most studies of aoy type of workers* there seems to ho 3O~b0f fewer deaths that? among the general population. This 13 bec*USfi the Spheral population has a higher proportion Oa siok people, while the working population is generally healthier. Therefore, for the first five to ten years of
employment* the working population la healthier than the general population, As a result, if researchers find Identical
statistics from the general population and from workers early In their careers* something is wrong.
Dr, Selikoff discussed the feet that, workers usually
die of lung cancer with asbestosis, though there are cases
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where death is due to aaheatosis (very short of breath) wltlTfcba
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presence of.lung cancer. Pulmonary scarring and cor pulmonale
cs.ua difficulty in pulmonary functions, although'there are no good data yet about correlations between these two conditions and heart attacks.
There was an interesting and in-depth presentation of the mineroiosy of asbestos, In parts it was ouite specific chemically, but most of what was discussed should he common -knowledge to member's, of the asbestos industry. Apparently deposits of crocidolite are contaminated with amosite, This raises an interesting point with respect to litigation in which tne specific types of asbestos,,or asbestos fibers is Important.
Dr. Danger discussed "Brownian movement" which plays an Important part in the airborne quality of asbestos fibers.
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The ,,very small fibers do not fail rapidly due to other atoms
and molecules moving in the atmosphere. These other particles push the small asbestos fibers around - often pushing them awards,
in a vacuum, the smallest fibers would settle - but this is not
so in the atmosphere. Therefore, sose fibers may never settle
regardless of gravity. This leads to an increased duration of possible exposure to the fibers.
Dr. Danger assorted that there are no known safe
exposure levels to asbestos. However, he believes that, as
dose exposures decrease, there should be a decrease.in the in&idersae of the various dise*ases, He said th'at there is no known exposure standard in the United States to prevent caneera. As a result, the industries end sciences work on a regulatory
system trying to minimise exposure and possible related diseases.
. ' Dr. Nicholson discussed difficulties with early dust mea$uraments. The basic problems noted were;
1. Few counts wars done;
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2 . Those that ware dene did not use current techniques5
3. All particles (mppcf!| were counted rather than
' . only .-fibers^ and ,
Conversion, factors were- uncertain..-
Mr. Michael Kbod, Director of Safety and Communications, international Brotherhood of Boiler Makers, read from a Chicago Tribun newspaper article.* "The federal government has the heaviest of responsibilities .in finding solutions fee problems of .Millions of workers exposed,.'1 &r,, Wood then asserted that
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rangement mast collectively 'civgain ever the safety and health
''insult'1 it has rendered its workers,
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Curing a question and answer period there was a discussion
concerning the devalued American dollar and the effect It
nay have on asbestos-related diseases, 'A speaker asserted
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that many foreign ships are feeing drought to the United States
for repair, Therefore 3 shipworkers m y be working on these ships
without knowing what materials they are being exposed to. This
nay increase the likelihood of their exposure to asbestos and
asbestos-containing materials.
it was stated that medical expertise in clinical and
pathological interpretation throughout this country is generally
sufficient, further* the American College of Radiology is
how training its- technicians to read and interpret -rays so
that there will be a higher degree of accuracy in the specific
area of Pulmonary problems and x-rays relating to pulmonary
diseases.
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Br Selikoff gave a brief presentation on the ILO
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(International Labor Office), classification system. This system
van designed to classify films and x-rays for epidemiologists,
statisticians and others In the.field. Its function is purely
one of classification (the preamble to its design states that
this classification is not for workmen's compensation and the like;-
'hat follows is a very brief summary of what Dr. Selikoff said.
Pneumoconioses are dust diseases of the lung. ILQ
began labeling x-rays to provide a standard classification
system for lung diseases, The classifications originally showed
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fe'h&fr was occurring in those exposed to coal`dust and $or.s
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silica. The classifications described nodules, Out when'the
pedical profession began seeing asbestosis films they could not
use the same descriptions fop two reasons. First, there were
no nodules. Second, asbestos-related problams were apparent
not only in the lungs, but also in ths pleura, and the initial
classification slides did not relate to non-lung problems.
Sr. Seliicoff reiterated that it is important to
remember that there is a much greater amount of pathology in
the lungs than can be seen on x-rays. X-rays always under
estimate what is there. Because of this, a whole new set of.
standards and classifications were developed regarding asbestos
end asbestos-related diseases and films showing each ofythese.
?he result is a new il9?S) glassification system/ This will
Include a proposed set. of standard films so that anyone looking
at the films w i n know exactly what is meant by the various
classifications < Irt-other worts, doctors can compare th
of their patients to the standard films that come with t
.assxfication package. Thers is also a proposal that there be 30t of end-category films. These films would show both ends
of each category so that a particular classification will include <1
film from the middle (.or avehsge.) of that category end both
extremes of that category.
Dr. Rabin asserted that etesotheIlona, of the pleura
rarely encountered among people without any .sheetos exposure. *10 stated that autopsies will reveal less than one out of 10,000
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oer&ors have r.asctH s1iomat sf the pleura, ;ye" 2 to ,,Ct? of persons
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Kith asbestos exposure develop pleural nssotheiiors.. therefore,
according to Dr. Babin, share is a definite correlation between
exposure so asbestos {.either pscupation&lly or by ocns.act with
one so exposed) and the development of pleural mesithelicma.
Kobe, however, that according to speakers at the emibrar.ee,
studies in Turkey have revealed pleural sesothellcaa as a 1 .
result of exposure to xeolite.
Diffuse pleural thickening, diffuse pleural plaques
(mainly on the diaphragm) and pleural calcification are often
seen in asbestos workers. In pleural thickening, the pleura
often creates a case around she lung causing anortnoss o-- breath
Dr, Tierhtein stated that a conglomerate shade- on the
lung x-ray does not necessarily mean carcinoma, iso dhe presence of an asbestos fiber on a biopsy does not- necessarily
mean ashestesis. However, primary carcinoma of the lung
.is metasuahle to the pleura. There may be 'a very s-cpoisticn-el
new instrument or. the horiaon which 111 help iffrentlets
baoween carcinoma and. pulmonary fibrosis,
is called a
"kata scan," (spelling phoneric;.
The following is a summary of points made by Dr. Tiers vein with respect tc primary bronchogenic carcinoma.
1. Pulmonary ashesItsis may mask a tumor;
2. The cancer Is more frequent in the liwer lebes;
3. The cancer la usually "peripheral"p
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Carcinoma i* increasingly common ithcut pulmonary
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5. It is dlffioult -o differentiate bet-,.-ear. p l s u m
carcincre, pjeurel tttaaiasas and msaothelibiaa.
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edicma in d,caroming priKr.: c ,, nc,oe>nlc
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sauisi wan y t ttu d r a t *, Of the fibers ln tbe
lung tissues. Time patients eaUgnant S M o t h a H o M t-oald
ta tast'd by galliu* inning and differentiated f r a t i m e 1th
benign pleural Involvement,
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fte. ^abin stated that lung case* Is eight times as
great in those exposed to asbestos as in the general 1,$.
population. He also asserted that hlacd-gas studies are
tmlikely to help diagnose aabestcsU, Apparently it is cordon ' to nave negative x-rays although various pulmonary problems
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carcinomas have no dow-**** wia-,Sir.ship to ore another -
each has their own dose-reapcnts eve. diagnostic thoracotomies
are net recommended by Dr. * * * . H e noted that there hare been
thras deaths due to diagnostic thnraectrnies at r-:t. $ins,i. hers
appears to be? a law resistance tc post-tboraoQt.or.y infection.
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According to Dr. Churg, mesothelioma fs mrch less common than the lung cancers but much mere specific. larcincma _or the pleura is lung parenchyxi surrounded by mesethglie-r.a. Hisuologiearly, mesothelioma r.ay look very .similar tc carcinoma of the pleura. Any tumor that pats into ehe pleura -will m o w
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in the same manner. Mesotheliomas are 70-75% epithelial,
Dr. Suzuki noted that a histological section is, not a wroo*d+ -.ca*n
to determine asbdstosis,
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k light mioroseope y be used, according sc ~r. Danger,
as long as one understands the caveats to its use, Ktre
. sophisticated instruments include the light beam ini the electron beam microscopes.
An interesting caveat to the British asbesccs star.cards ttaa discussed fey Dr. Nicholson. The British standards were
designed to prevent {or lower the incidence of) asbestos,is.
He asserted that no one knew what were '-safe" standards to
prevent cancer, The problem tilth the standard for car tirogens >
as stated at the conference, is that even at the present time
we d e p o t know thresholds for carcinogens, Therefore, D r ,Nicholson .recommended reducing exposure `levels as much as possible,
In discussing current* standards ha noted that there is no historic or scientific basis for the "tro fiber standard*n
further, the five micron length t^as stated to be ar. arbitrary cut-off to allow the counting of fibers rich the light mis rosccpe. Dr* Nicholson stated that we ion*t kr.ov that shorter fibers do nos cause problems, Similarity, he asserted that chars are , -
100. times as many fibers shorter than fire miertns ad those
more than, firs microns in length.
Dr. Selikoff believes that 1
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have dust counts done. F u r t h e r h e asserted that apcrixir.ately
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tt is important to TMMr that for search porposas a study
panod of less than 20-25 years Is not as significant1as the
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Dr. Seiikoff continued by stating that then i* a sharp
^ponaa relationship f*r lung tt0ttr ,, the longer a worker
sorted with asbestos, the more likely he is to get lung
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canosr - but again the latency period is crucial*. The tissue
burden continues'to affect with no further exposure other than
the initial exposure which can be one month, `one year, even one
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the longer the induction
period (dose-induetion period). These were said to be the
biological parameters that must he taken into consideration.
One segment of the conference was directed toward , discussing family contact diseases. 0. Anderson explained that this relates to children and woman exposed to workers oho were
occupationally exposed to asbestos, it is b e l i e f that the dust
^ l i b e r s brought back- into the homo by the worker were carried
on their oodles,, in their hair and on their work clothes. Thera
is a relative risk factor of tan'for women with mesothelioma.
This means that a woman with mesothelioma is ten times as likely
to live (or have lived) in a hone with an asbestos worker than, a woman in the control group. '
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Andarson, asbestos fibers persist in
, 6h8 *** Xn i o m homes that were tested, asbestos'fibers
*sr fcurid on fet>* ^ H s 3 ceilings and framework over* the door tw much as 30 j'ears after the last; known working date of the
asbestos worker. Wives have been found to h&ye the greatest
bftanoe of contracting asbestos-related diseases. Curiously,
daughters were found to develop asbestos-related diseases the
least, less than their male siblings/ No one is sure why this is so.
Following the above background in the medical and
epidemiological aspects of asbestos-associated diseases,
presentations were made relating to workmen's compensation,
product liability and legal aspects of the asbestos disease
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problem, tations.
i will know turn to a summary of soma of those presen *
Xn discussing the scientific basis for regulatory determination of disability. Dr. Kiiburn noted that *kdisability i$ an opinion,,r if* explained that there are four classes of pulmonary/ respiratory impairment that correspond to the four classes of cardiovascular impairment, Hr, Howard Vincent then said that -the length of time from time- of injury to the first disability check received by the claimant is approximately SO days in injury oases and approximately one year in occupational illnesses. He continued Chat one out of every ten .injury cases is contested and
,,her* is an average award o f `25,000, Six oat of every ten
illness cases sra contested and there is an average award of lass
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than *$10,'000.
According to Mr. Vau.1 Giilanwater the earlless
cu occupational diseases are set apart fro accidental injurias
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reasons:'<,!} the disease is not accidental hut is usually
expected; arid (2) the disease has developed over a long period
of tliSa versus d sudden onset (like an accident),
compensable disability can also be divided into
two categories -- a disability of a medical or physical nature
and a de facto inability to earn wagas. The two types usually
* occur simultaneously^ tut they pan occur independently,
4. here are four classes of disability t torporary-total; tcmporary-partial j permanent-totaij and permanent^-partial. A core
detailed discussion of these four classes of disability is contained
in the American Medical Association guide" fco permanent disability.
It is important to remember that in determining disability the
focus is not on the loss of earning capacity but in the cause ;f
the .lost of earning capacity Cl e,4 is it cc.cupatior.ar?), gs Cf
LfCtooer 1 , 1978 the maximum, rate of" compensation ras $3$$ ccr xaek.
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lir. Matthew Shainer* revealed that a determiration zf i1.s-
.ability is not only dependant on a diagnosis but also on age,
,educationj, industrial history.and' available employment which
the claimant can obtain after ^injury, -Further* disability n ~
*legal sense doss not become pemanenfe until it ranches narl~vrr
medical improvement. This determination is made by &r. administrative
law judge. Mr, Sha fuer said that written radical reports r.ay
not b introduced into evidence in disability hearings and in
asbcsfeosls oases it as generally desirable - and often aecessarv -
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to have medical expert witnesses testify, if a claimant returns * t0 "*k &ft*r iT^ us^ "His doss not preclude a finding of permanent
or uotal disability, Mr. Shafoer emphasised that di.saoili.ty is a torward-xoowlng concept, net just an examination of past events, Mr. Henderson added that the statute of limitations bn disability claims begins to run whan the claimant knows or reasonably should have known about his (!) exposure or (2) disease' or (3) harmful exposure,
Tnere lias a discussion of some particularly difficult
scientific and legal question which arise ip workmen's compensation
proceedings particularly when there is a long latency period.
Dr, beliKoif reiterated that tissue change is generally undetectable
in asbestos-related diseases until a ao-year latency period has
run. Therefore, there is a progression of disability and burden oa the tissues which follows the cessation of exposure. It is possible that the incremental insults may not U coming from
onxy one_source, Tnis was related to the combined effects of
smoking, environmental problems, pollutants In'the water and air,
and the like,
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Mr, Shafner continued by mentioning that the last
employer or lacs insurance carrier Is generality-responsible for
compensation , In filing multiple claims there should he no
overlapping of benefits, but there should also be no gaps, the
government Has a right to a third-party,lien if the employee has
been treated for compensable disease by a Vk clinic, tiorkren fs
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compensation may affect the amount of social security received
although social security does pot affect icrkc.eh*$ compensation
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awards - It is hard to obtain total compensation through social
security
' Mr. Qan Looks posed the following crucial questions for
determining legal points in workmen's compensation claims; Does
a disease exist at a subclinical stags? or only when it is
detectable at radiographic stages? or whan pulmonary 'function
changes become evident?
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With respect to the varying statutes of limitation,
in Mr. Henderson's opinion, th,e time when the cause of action
^accrues could he; (l) when the plaintiff suffers harm; (2 ) when the plaintiff becomes aware of the disease prosess 5 {.3} when the
' plaintiff recognizes the causu&l realtlonahlp between exposure
and the disease; or (**)- the defendant's data o^ duty {.last -
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Mr. Bonald Motley asserted that a good radiologist
should be able to distinguish between fibrosis caused by smoking
and fibrosis caused by asbestos exposure* He also stated that
asbestos fibers and cigarette smoking act independently and
either can"cause lung cancer. He pointed out that a non-smoking
asbestos worker has a five times greater chance of contracting
*l''u''ng 'cancer then the general popula.tion.
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. . Mr. Roy stainfurth stated that compenst ion claims are
usually too late or Inadequate to halt the chain of "collateral1'
eyerves that occur when a worker has contracted an occupational
' disease. Soma of those events are depression, break up of the
family, depletion of savings, loss Of wages, and the like. He
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asserted that St is of utmost. importance to have attorneys who 'are veil versed in workmen1 compensation and products liability !&, Ha noted shat the time from application to the award, of benefits is often two or three years during which time the plaintiff often dies. The burden of proof is then on the widow or other representative, especially in state compensation oases,
` Thera are two states which, as yet, have not awarded any compensation to asbestos workers, Those states arc Mississippi
and Louisiana.
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nr. Albert Millus pointed out there is no such thing
as an inert dust, but there'are great Individual differences
In the susceptibility to dust, exposure and pulmonary insult.
Dr. Selikoff added that In 15* of all mesothelioma cases
asbestos cannot be identified as the cause and that It does not
make biological sense that only one agent could causa a cancer.
The last statement was supported .by evidence from Turkey of two
-different type* of oolite causing this typd ,cf cancan.
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On the last day of the conference appro
hours of the afternoon session were used-to demonscra^aworiciehs
aompensation hearing. There was a diraot examination a n d ^ o s * ~
.examination of the plaintiff's pathologist, a d i r e c f ^ ^ n a t I o n
and cross-examination cf the defendants' clinician, closing
arguments and a rebuttal, Complete tapes of those presentations
are available. If any AIA/NA member wishes further information cones. n-.,,&
Phis conference, or wishes to obtain copies of any of the tapes,
`please contact me.
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